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I hate to be disagreeable, but I've had a flu shot three times and all three

times I became very ill. The symptoms were exactly like the flu I was trying to

prevent, only more extreme. I always got so much sicker than the people who had

the flu itself. What's true about vaccines for some people isn't what's true

for all people. I also got a horrible case of rubella when they gave me a

rubella shot after my daughter was born--with a full blown rash, high fever and

joint pain that hung on for a long time. Sometimes I suspect that my whole

RA/fibromyalgia problems originated there. It's important for people to pay

attention to their bodies and approach vaccinations accordingly. I will never

have another vaccine of any kind unless the disease is always fatal and it is

easy to catch through casual contact. My kids had bad reactions to shots too.

If you've had flu shots and they've worked for you in the past, then more power

to you, but the people who say they got the flu from a

flu shot aren't making it up. Sorry.

laura

judith brimsden <judith.brimsden@...> wrote:

You can't because it is an inactivated vaccine.

Judith

Judith Brimsden

Purranza Burmese & Devon Rex

www.purranza.com

Re: [ ] Re: Flu Shot

> I've been taking a flu shot for the last 16 years that I've had RA. The

> old

> idea that you can get the flu from the shot is a big bunch of hooey! I've

> had more than one Rheumy during that time and none have said anything

> about

> special treatment or stopping other meds because of the shot. I guess it's

> just the preference of the administrating physician. Take the shot,

> there's

> no reason not to (in most cases)!

>

> Dennis

>

> ----- Original Message -----

>

>

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,

I agree with you 100%.

a

On Oct 24, 2005, at 1:11 PM, Bauman wrote:

> I hate to be disagreeable, but I've had a flu shot three times and

> all three times I became very ill. The symptoms were exactly like

> the flu I was trying to prevent, only more extreme. I always got

> so much sicker than the people who had the flu itself. What's true

> about vaccines for some people isn't what's true for all people. I

> also got a horrible case of rubella when they gave me a rubella

> shot after my daughter was born--with a full blown rash, high fever

> and joint pain that hung on for a long time. Sometimes I suspect

> that my whole RA/fibromyalgia problems originated there. It's

> important for people to pay attention to their bodies and approach

> vaccinations accordingly. I will never have another vaccine of any

> kind unless the disease is always fatal and it is easy to catch

> through casual contact. My kids had bad reactions to shots too.

> If you've had flu shots and they've worked for you in the past,

> then more power to you, but flu shot aren't making it up. Sorry.

>

> laura

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,

I agree with you 100%.

a

On Oct 24, 2005, at 1:11 PM, Bauman wrote:

> I hate to be disagreeable, but I've had a flu shot three times and

> all three times I became very ill. The symptoms were exactly like

> the flu I was trying to prevent, only more extreme. I always got

> so much sicker than the people who had the flu itself. What's true

> about vaccines for some people isn't what's true for all people. I

> also got a horrible case of rubella when they gave me a rubella

> shot after my daughter was born--with a full blown rash, high fever

> and joint pain that hung on for a long time. Sometimes I suspect

> that my whole RA/fibromyalgia problems originated there. It's

> important for people to pay attention to their bodies and approach

> vaccinations accordingly. I will never have another vaccine of any

> kind unless the disease is always fatal and it is easy to catch

> through casual contact. My kids had bad reactions to shots too.

> If you've had flu shots and they've worked for you in the past,

> then more power to you, but flu shot aren't making it up. Sorry.

>

> laura

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Hi a,

I know the last time, two years ago, I got the flu shot. I got the flu and

was so sick for five weeks. I will never get it again. I think washing hands

frequently

is a better way to go. My son makes drugs for Kline and he won't even get

the flu shot. He told me it is just a guess that they have hit the right

strain. This

is just my thought and not for everyone. I think people have to make up their

own minds about whether to get the shot or not.

I am going to call my son and ask him what he is hearing about this bird flu

thing.

Lynn MeMom

a wrote:

> ,

>

> I agree with you 100%.

>

> a

>

> On Oct 24, 2005, at 1:11 PM, Bauman wrote:

>

> > I hate to be disagreeable, but I've had a flu shot three times and

> > all three times I became very ill. The symptoms were exactly like

> > the flu I was trying to prevent, only more extreme. I always got

> > so much sicker than the people who had the flu itself. What's true

> > about vaccines for some people isn't what's true for all people. I

> > also got a horrible case of rubella when they gave me a rubella

> > shot after my daughter was born--with a full blown rash, high fever

> > and joint pain that hung on for a long time. Sometimes I suspect

> > that my whole RA/fibromyalgia problems originated there. It's

> > important for people to pay attention to their bodies and approach

> > vaccinations accordingly. I will never have another vaccine of any

> > kind unless the disease is always fatal and it is easy to catch

> > through casual contact. My kids had bad reactions to shots too.

> > If you've had flu shots and they've worked for you in the past,

> > then more power to you, but flu shot aren't making it up. Sorry.

> >

> > laura

>

>

>

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I know in the childrens mental health community, there is much controversy over

vaccines in general. Some blame childhood vaccines for autism.

I know there was a government program, The Vaccine Injury Compensation Program

(you can prolly find it using a search engine)

I know I was dx'ed with Lupus when I was 18 (I am now 46) and in approx 2000 I

had to be vaccinated with all the typical vaccines for nursing school. DTP,

MMR, Hib, Hep B, tetnus. exactly 10 days later I was hospitalized and began an

extremely sudden and aggressive descent into the hell my rheumy calls my RA.

It has not been confirmed or proven my RA is from the vaccines, but it also has

not been ruled out.

There is so much information for both sides of vaccine controversy. I am not

sure of my own personal opinion, except I think much more investigation needs to

be done.

ANd yes, the flu vaccine is developed each year based on a prediction and

monitoring of which particular strains seem to be predominant for any given

year.and they may or may not be the strains that hit hard in any given year.

BUT for some people such as those with HIV or certain cancers, any flu could be

fatal....and for some the risk of becoming ill or getting a flu shot must be

carefully measured. In normal healthy people most flu is an inconvenience at

most..but in compromised people, it can be easily fatal. I owrked in a county

nuring home one winter where we lost over 60% of our patient population to flu.

It was a very scary season. Our nursing home was quarantined and staff had to

stay and sleep there and staff who were not on duty were not allowed in and no

visitors allowed. I think it was 1995.

- In , Ruf-Caimi <ruf-caimi@e...> wrote:

>

> Hi a,

> I know the last time, two years ago, I got the flu shot. I got the flu and

was so sick for five weeks. I will never get it again. I think washing hands

frequently

> is a better way to go. My son makes drugs for Kline and he won't even

get the flu shot. He told me it is just a guess that they have hit the right

strain. This

> is just my thought and not for everyone. I think people have to make up their

own minds about whether to get the shot or not.

> I am going to call my son and ask him what he is hearing about this bird flu

thing.

> Lynn MeMom

>

> a wrote:

>

> > ,

> >

> > I agree with you 100%.

> >

> > a

> >

> > On Oct 24, 2005, at 1:11 PM, Bauman wrote:

> >

> > > I hate to be disagreeable, but I've had a flu shot three times and

> > > all three times I became very ill. The symptoms were exactly like

> > > the flu I was trying to prevent, only more extreme. I always got

> > > so much sicker than the people who had the flu itself. What's true

> > > about vaccines for some people isn't what's true for all people. I

> > > also got a horrible case of rubella when they gave me a rubella

> > > shot after my daughter was born--with a full blown rash, high fever

> > > and joint pain that hung on for a long time. Sometimes I suspect

> > > that my whole RA/fibromyalgia problems originated there. It's

> > > important for people to pay attention to their bodies and approach

> > > vaccinations accordingly. I will never have another vaccine of any

> > > kind unless the disease is always fatal and it is easy to catch

> > > through casual contact. My kids had bad reactions to shots too.

> > > If you've had flu shots and they've worked for you in the past,

> > > then more power to you, but flu shot aren't making it up. Sorry.

> > >

> > > laura

> >

> >

> >

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I know in the childrens mental health community, there is much controversy over

vaccines in general. Some blame childhood vaccines for autism.

I know there was a government program, The Vaccine Injury Compensation Program

(you can prolly find it using a search engine)

I know I was dx'ed with Lupus when I was 18 (I am now 46) and in approx 2000 I

had to be vaccinated with all the typical vaccines for nursing school. DTP,

MMR, Hib, Hep B, tetnus. exactly 10 days later I was hospitalized and began an

extremely sudden and aggressive descent into the hell my rheumy calls my RA.

It has not been confirmed or proven my RA is from the vaccines, but it also has

not been ruled out.

There is so much information for both sides of vaccine controversy. I am not

sure of my own personal opinion, except I think much more investigation needs to

be done.

ANd yes, the flu vaccine is developed each year based on a prediction and

monitoring of which particular strains seem to be predominant for any given

year.and they may or may not be the strains that hit hard in any given year.

BUT for some people such as those with HIV or certain cancers, any flu could be

fatal....and for some the risk of becoming ill or getting a flu shot must be

carefully measured. In normal healthy people most flu is an inconvenience at

most..but in compromised people, it can be easily fatal. I owrked in a county

nuring home one winter where we lost over 60% of our patient population to flu.

It was a very scary season. Our nursing home was quarantined and staff had to

stay and sleep there and staff who were not on duty were not allowed in and no

visitors allowed. I think it was 1995.

- In , Ruf-Caimi <ruf-caimi@e...> wrote:

>

> Hi a,

> I know the last time, two years ago, I got the flu shot. I got the flu and

was so sick for five weeks. I will never get it again. I think washing hands

frequently

> is a better way to go. My son makes drugs for Kline and he won't even

get the flu shot. He told me it is just a guess that they have hit the right

strain. This

> is just my thought and not for everyone. I think people have to make up their

own minds about whether to get the shot or not.

> I am going to call my son and ask him what he is hearing about this bird flu

thing.

> Lynn MeMom

>

> a wrote:

>

> > ,

> >

> > I agree with you 100%.

> >

> > a

> >

> > On Oct 24, 2005, at 1:11 PM, Bauman wrote:

> >

> > > I hate to be disagreeable, but I've had a flu shot three times and

> > > all three times I became very ill. The symptoms were exactly like

> > > the flu I was trying to prevent, only more extreme. I always got

> > > so much sicker than the people who had the flu itself. What's true

> > > about vaccines for some people isn't what's true for all people. I

> > > also got a horrible case of rubella when they gave me a rubella

> > > shot after my daughter was born--with a full blown rash, high fever

> > > and joint pain that hung on for a long time. Sometimes I suspect

> > > that my whole RA/fibromyalgia problems originated there. It's

> > > important for people to pay attention to their bodies and approach

> > > vaccinations accordingly. I will never have another vaccine of any

> > > kind unless the disease is always fatal and it is easy to catch

> > > through casual contact. My kids had bad reactions to shots too.

> > > If you've had flu shots and they've worked for you in the past,

> > > then more power to you, but flu shot aren't making it up. Sorry.

> > >

> > > laura

> >

> >

> >

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  • 11 months later...

My son (5) just had Flu Mist (nose spray instead of a shot). Two days

later he had a low fever, but it was easily controlled with just one dose of

Motrin. The next day he again got a low fever, but one dose of Motrin and he

was fine for the rest of the day. The third day he had no symptoms.

I don't know if this was a light episode (it's about 5 days early), or if it

was just a reaction to the flu mist.

Patty

Flu Shots

Are Flu Shots a good idea for kids with possible ? Are there any

negatives that anyone knows of? Do most of you guys have your kids

get them? My daughter had the shot last year but I feel like I am

always questioning and worrying about everything. Thanks for any

insight or advice!

mother of ee(2.5)

for now!

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