Guest guest Posted November 2, 2005 Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 I watched part of a congressional hearing about the mercury in the hepatitis B vaccine. The doctor was showing slides of human brain cells that had been exposed to a lesser amount of mercury than the kids who got the shots, and the cells had damage and the doctor said it could very well cause autism. I never saw any of the information the doctor presented in any magazine or any news program. The papers were all over it when they announced that mercury in the environment could cause autistic-like problems, but there was dead silence about the vaccine. How do they manage that??? The vaccines had many times the amount of mercury than is allowed in food and it was injected straight into their little bodies. My brother's doctor told him that the mercury in the hep B vaccine was removed. If it wasn't the problem, then why did they change it? When parents of autistic kids try to get compensation from the drug companies, they are thwarted at every turn. The government has actually made laws that prevent these parents from having free access to all the information they'd need to make their case. dreamer, what a sad and horrible thing you had to go through at the nursing home. It shows the other side of it. If there was an unhindered free flow of information, then everyone could make intelligent decisions on a case-by-case basis. I can certainly see why you would connect the mess of vaccines and your hospitalization. dreamer_plus <dreamer_plus@...> wrote: I know in the childrens mental health community, there is much controversy over vaccines in general. Some blame childhood vaccines for autism. I know there was a government program, The Vaccine Injury Compensation Program (you can prolly find it using a search engine) I know I was dx'ed with Lupus when I was 18 (I am now 46) and in approx 2000 I had to be vaccinated with all the typical vaccines for nursing school. DTP, MMR, Hib, Hep B, tetnus. exactly 10 days later I was hospitalized and began an extremely sudden and aggressive descent into the hell my rheumy calls my RA. It has not been confirmed or proven my RA is from the vaccines, but it also has not been ruled out. There is so much information for both sides of vaccine controversy. I am not sure of my own personal opinion, except I think much more investigation needs to be done. ANd yes, the flu vaccine is developed each year based on a prediction and monitoring of which particular strains seem to be predominant for any given year.and they may or may not be the strains that hit hard in any given year. BUT for some people such as those with HIV or certain cancers, any flu could be fatal....and for some the risk of becoming ill or getting a flu shot must be carefully measured. In normal healthy people most flu is an inconvenience at most..but in compromised people, it can be easily fatal. I owrked in a county nuring home one winter where we lost over 60% of our patient population to flu. It was a very scary season. Our nursing home was quarantined and staff had to stay and sleep there and staff who were not on duty were not allowed in and no visitors allowed. I think it was 1995. - In , Ruf-Caimi <ruf-caimi@e...> wrote: > > Hi a, > I know the last time, two years ago, I got the flu shot. I got the flu and was so sick for five weeks. I will never get it again. I think washing hands frequently > is a better way to go. My son makes drugs for Kline and he won't even get the flu shot. He told me it is just a guess that they have hit the right strain. This > is just my thought and not for everyone. I think people have to make up their own minds about whether to get the shot or not. > I am going to call my son and ask him what he is hearing about this bird flu thing. > Lynn MeMom > > a wrote: > > > , > > > > I agree with you 100%. > > > > a > > > > On Oct 24, 2005, at 1:11 PM, Bauman wrote: > > > > > I hate to be disagreeable, but I've had a flu shot three times and > > > all three times I became very ill. The symptoms were exactly like > > > the flu I was trying to prevent, only more extreme. I always got > > > so much sicker than the people who had the flu itself. What's true > > > about vaccines for some people isn't what's true for all people. I > > > also got a horrible case of rubella when they gave me a rubella > > > shot after my daughter was born--with a full blown rash, high fever > > > and joint pain that hung on for a long time. Sometimes I suspect > > > that my whole RA/fibromyalgia problems originated there. It's > > > important for people to pay attention to their bodies and approach > > > vaccinations accordingly. I will never have another vaccine of any > > > kind unless the disease is always fatal and it is easy to catch > > > through casual contact. My kids had bad reactions to shots too. > > > If you've had flu shots and they've worked for you in the past, > > > then more power to you, but flu shot aren't making it up. Sorry. > > > > > > laura > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2005 Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 I watched part of a congressional hearing about the mercury in the hepatitis B vaccine. The doctor was showing slides of human brain cells that had been exposed to a lesser amount of mercury than the kids who got the shots, and the cells had damage and the doctor said it could very well cause autism. I never saw any of the information the doctor presented in any magazine or any news program. The papers were all over it when they announced that mercury in the environment could cause autistic-like problems, but there was dead silence about the vaccine. How do they manage that??? The vaccines had many times the amount of mercury than is allowed in food and it was injected straight into their little bodies. My brother's doctor told him that the mercury in the hep B vaccine was removed. If it wasn't the problem, then why did they change it? When parents of autistic kids try to get compensation from the drug companies, they are thwarted at every turn. The government has actually made laws that prevent these parents from having free access to all the information they'd need to make their case. dreamer, what a sad and horrible thing you had to go through at the nursing home. It shows the other side of it. If there was an unhindered free flow of information, then everyone could make intelligent decisions on a case-by-case basis. I can certainly see why you would connect the mess of vaccines and your hospitalization. dreamer_plus <dreamer_plus@...> wrote: I know in the childrens mental health community, there is much controversy over vaccines in general. Some blame childhood vaccines for autism. I know there was a government program, The Vaccine Injury Compensation Program (you can prolly find it using a search engine) I know I was dx'ed with Lupus when I was 18 (I am now 46) and in approx 2000 I had to be vaccinated with all the typical vaccines for nursing school. DTP, MMR, Hib, Hep B, tetnus. exactly 10 days later I was hospitalized and began an extremely sudden and aggressive descent into the hell my rheumy calls my RA. It has not been confirmed or proven my RA is from the vaccines, but it also has not been ruled out. There is so much information for both sides of vaccine controversy. I am not sure of my own personal opinion, except I think much more investigation needs to be done. ANd yes, the flu vaccine is developed each year based on a prediction and monitoring of which particular strains seem to be predominant for any given year.and they may or may not be the strains that hit hard in any given year. BUT for some people such as those with HIV or certain cancers, any flu could be fatal....and for some the risk of becoming ill or getting a flu shot must be carefully measured. In normal healthy people most flu is an inconvenience at most..but in compromised people, it can be easily fatal. I owrked in a county nuring home one winter where we lost over 60% of our patient population to flu. It was a very scary season. Our nursing home was quarantined and staff had to stay and sleep there and staff who were not on duty were not allowed in and no visitors allowed. I think it was 1995. - In , Ruf-Caimi <ruf-caimi@e...> wrote: > > Hi a, > I know the last time, two years ago, I got the flu shot. I got the flu and was so sick for five weeks. I will never get it again. I think washing hands frequently > is a better way to go. My son makes drugs for Kline and he won't even get the flu shot. He told me it is just a guess that they have hit the right strain. This > is just my thought and not for everyone. I think people have to make up their own minds about whether to get the shot or not. > I am going to call my son and ask him what he is hearing about this bird flu thing. > Lynn MeMom > > a wrote: > > > , > > > > I agree with you 100%. > > > > a > > > > On Oct 24, 2005, at 1:11 PM, Bauman wrote: > > > > > I hate to be disagreeable, but I've had a flu shot three times and > > > all three times I became very ill. The symptoms were exactly like > > > the flu I was trying to prevent, only more extreme. I always got > > > so much sicker than the people who had the flu itself. What's true > > > about vaccines for some people isn't what's true for all people. I > > > also got a horrible case of rubella when they gave me a rubella > > > shot after my daughter was born--with a full blown rash, high fever > > > and joint pain that hung on for a long time. Sometimes I suspect > > > that my whole RA/fibromyalgia problems originated there. It's > > > important for people to pay attention to their bodies and approach > > > vaccinations accordingly. I will never have another vaccine of any > > > kind unless the disease is always fatal and it is easy to catch > > > through casual contact. My kids had bad reactions to shots too. > > > If you've had flu shots and they've worked for you in the past, > > > then more power to you, but flu shot aren't making it up. Sorry. > > > > > > laura > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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