Conference 8/9 Sept. Which workshop ?

[Guest guest]

Hello all,

I don't know anything about RDI, II or ABA and i don't know how to decide which

one to choose. My son is 16, classic autism. He is non-verbal but doesn't have

behavioural issues at the contrary, he is very passive and withdrawn. He needs a

lot of prompting too. Does anybody has experience of all those therapies and can

help me in my decision ?

Many thanks.

[Guest guest]

, I am biased (although I try not to be!) but in your case I

absolutely recommend Intensive Interaction. My child was also withdrawn,

there's no way you should do ABA/ VB with a withdrawn child imho - you

will just make him more withdrawn. Also RDI is pretty much impossible to

do with a withdrawn child. I think you need to do a joining therapy.

Another possibility would be Son-Rise (but I am biased and prefer

Intensive Interaction).

Sara x

[Guest guest]

----- Forwarded Message ----- To: Sara Moroza- Sent: Monday, 11 June 2012, 17:06 Subject: Re: Conference 8/9 Sept. Which workshop ? Hi Sara,Thank you for your input. Why do you advice against ABA/RDI intervention for withdrawn children ?Also, although my son is passive and withdrawn, he has quite good eye contact. He is for the most part non-verbal or can manage 1 single word at times, he's learning to use PECS and uses it at times but i believe he doesn't understand the full usefuleness of it. He needs quite a lot of prompting and reminder to use it. At school, he's so quiet and mostly cooperative that they forget him sometimes and he seems to stay on the periphery of the group until someone talk to him. At home, he is more present, of course we are only 3 so it is less overhelming for him. He like spending time in his room but likes our company

too but doesn't interact or initiate any of his needs or interests. I read your blog and i wander because you talk about your baby, that reminds me my son at the same age, can this intervention works for a young person. My son is aware of the world around him, he just has a lot difficulties to find his voice. His passivity works against him, it is like he is stock and need somebody to pull him and give him the right tool to be able to function.Regards, To: alikound@... Sent: Monday, 11 June 2012, 9:12 Subject: Re: Conference 8/9 Sept. Which workshop ? I've just written to you on the ABE forum but I feel so strongly about you doing the other therapies with a withdrawn child!!! My Intensive Interaction story has just been uploaded to the Treating Autism website. Please have a look at it and feel free to contact me any time,sara xhttp://www.treatingautism.co.uk/useful-documents/?pageID=4

[Guest guest]

No Sara, but i feel i can give you an insight more about ABA. My 7 yr old has had ABA for 3.5 yrs, it has been fantastic for his education but has given nothing to his play skills, social interaction and given minimal speech in that time (he is still primarily non verbal) I have signed up to the Intensive interaction workshop because i need to focus on play and interaction as well as social skills and speech which i feel is better suited than ABA or RDI. x To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: alikound@...Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 17:11:58 +0100Subject: Fw: Conference 8/9 Sept. Which workshop ?

----- Forwarded Message ----- To: Sara Moroza- Sent: Monday, 11 June 2012, 17:06 Subject: Re: Conference 8/9 Sept. Which workshop ? Hi Sara,Thank you for your input. Why do you advice against ABA/RDI intervention for withdrawn children ?Also, although my son is passive and withdrawn, he has quite good eye contact. He is for the most part non-verbal or can manage 1 single word at times, he's learning to use PECS and uses it at times but i believe he doesn't understand the full usefuleness of it. He needs quite a lot of prompting and reminder to use it. At school, he's so quiet and mostly cooperative that they forget him sometimes and he seems to stay on the periphery of the group until someone talk to him. At home, he is more present, of course we are only 3 so it is less overhelming for him. He like spending time in his room but likes our company

too but doesn't interact or initiate any of his needs or interests. I read your blog and i wander because you talk about your baby, that reminds me my son at the same age, can this intervention works for a young person. My son is aware of the world around him, he just has a lot difficulties to find his voice. His passivity works against him, it is like he is stock and need somebody to pull him and give him the right tool to be able to function.Regards, To: alikound@... Sent: Monday, 11 June 2012, 9:12 Subject: Re: Conference 8/9 Sept. Which workshop ? I've just written to you on the ABE forum but I feel so strongly about you doing the other therapies with a withdrawn child!!! My Intensive Interaction story has just been uploaded to the Treating Autism website. Please have a look at it and feel free to contact me any time,sara xhttp://www.treatingautism.co.uk/useful-documents/?pageID=4

[Guest guest]

Hi en Sara,

I totally agree with you that with a withdrawn child ABA is not the way to go. I

personally like Son-Rise, but also I am biased.

I would like to share a video with you, which illustrates the principles of

Son-Rise and also it's effects: http://youtu.be/wcMgrKUqR9o

Love,

Sencho

>

> , I am biased (although I try not to be!) but in your case I

> absolutely recommend Intensive Interaction. My child was also withdrawn,

> there's no way you should do ABA/ VB with a withdrawn child imho - you

> will just make him more withdrawn. Also RDI is pretty much impossible to

> do with a withdrawn child. I think you need to do a joining therapy.

> Another possibility would be Son-Rise (but I am biased and prefer

> Intensive Interaction).

> Sara x

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Sencho,Thank you for your input.Although my son is withdrawn and passive, he is not completely out of touch. He is "present" most of the time, especially at home but not so much in crowds or at school for example. He has very little speech and hardly ever initiate. Why ABA and RDI would not be the way to go for him ? Could you describe to me the fundamentals of those interventions and the type of people you think they are more used with ? Because i really need to make up my mind.Many thanks, To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe Sent: Tuesday, 26 June 2012, 14:57 Subject: Re: Conference 8/9 Sept. Which workshop ?

Hi en Sara,

I totally agree with you that with a withdrawn child ABA is not the way to go. I personally like Son-Rise, but also I am biased.

I would like to share a video with you, which illustrates the principles of Son-Rise and also it's effects: http://youtu.be/wcMgrKUqR9o

Love,

Sencho

>

> , I am biased (although I try not to be!) but in your case I

> absolutely recommend Intensive Interaction. My child was also withdrawn,

> there's no way you should do ABA/ VB with a withdrawn child imho - you

> will just make him more withdrawn. Also RDI is pretty much impossible to

> do with a withdrawn child. I think you need to do a joining therapy.

> Another possibility would be Son-Rise (but I am biased and prefer

> Intensive Interaction).

> Sara x

>