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Dear Tess,

Chronic pain is an isolating experience because, unless you've been there, you

can't imagine how inescapable it is. Deep inside I think people assume that you

can just stop dwelling on it and it will get better. I think that's one of the

coping mechanisms that our family members develop. They'd feel so helpless

otherwise. Still, they need to understand how unhelpful their brand of sympathy

is. That's why its important to talk to people like us who know. Whine anytime

and I hope you feel better soon.

By the way, can anyone tell me--I took my third weekly dose of methotrexate last

night. When should I start noticing a difference if it is going to do any good?

laura

Grammi B <grammi_love@...> wrote:

Hi Friends...I know I have been down a lot lately, and I hope you forgive me

for rattling on. I just need to talk a little here. Something that we all here

have discussed before. I went to my folks and I love them to pieces. They are

great, and love me dearly. As does my sister (my only sibling). But, they do

NOT get 'why' I feel so lousy sometimes. Believe me, I hardly say anything, as

I know it is not a subject that will be comfortable for them. (I have tried to

explain things in the past.) But when asked 'How are you doing? " I answer

honestly, though without all the details. I am sick and tired of saying " I'm

fine. " when I am not.

My folks and sister are NEVER mean or unkind. They just get so uncomfortable

and will not spend even a minute discussing things with me. If I say I am in a

flare and not feeling well they will tell me, " Oh, well, Mrs. is dying of

cancer. " OH MY GOODNESS. Rarely do they say, " Honey, I'm sorry you are feeling

poorly. " What in the world threatens or scares them so much that I get this

kind of response? I am a compassionate and empathetic person. I have lived

through a love one dying from cancer (more than one loved one.) I am NOT ever

implying that I have it " worse' than anyone, for Pete's sake. I am just trying

to be honest and speak what is on my heart. My sister, who was a social worker

for 25 years and the head of adoption services for our county, is just as bad.

She STILL 'doesn't get' RA. I think in her mind RA is just a 'touch of

arthritis'. I tried to explain to her that RA and FMS are systemic and affect

more than just one lone joint. She said, " What is

systemic? "

OK, I really am having a hard time here. I am more tired of feeling crappy

than any of my relatives are of hearing about it, I am sure. I have kept so

much inside because it is not received well. Why? If one of my kids say

something is wrong or they are not feeling well, I WANT to know what is wrong, I

ask questions, I do research, I call them and tell them I am sorry and ask what

I can do.

Now, I am feeling like I am being too hard on my folks and sister. For there

love for me is unquestionable. But I hate feeling lonely even when I am with

them because they cannot or do not 'get it'. They show their love for me in so

many other ways for which I am grateful. But this still hurts.

I know feeling crummy all night, waking up with my fingers throbbing and my

hips screaming colors things. But just needed to vent a little.

Love to all...

Tess in Oregon

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Dear Tess,

Chronic pain is an isolating experience because, unless you've been there, you

can't imagine how inescapable it is. Deep inside I think people assume that you

can just stop dwelling on it and it will get better. I think that's one of the

coping mechanisms that our family members develop. They'd feel so helpless

otherwise. Still, they need to understand how unhelpful their brand of sympathy

is. That's why its important to talk to people like us who know. Whine anytime

and I hope you feel better soon.

By the way, can anyone tell me--I took my third weekly dose of methotrexate last

night. When should I start noticing a difference if it is going to do any good?

laura

Grammi B <grammi_love@...> wrote:

Hi Friends...I know I have been down a lot lately, and I hope you forgive me

for rattling on. I just need to talk a little here. Something that we all here

have discussed before. I went to my folks and I love them to pieces. They are

great, and love me dearly. As does my sister (my only sibling). But, they do

NOT get 'why' I feel so lousy sometimes. Believe me, I hardly say anything, as

I know it is not a subject that will be comfortable for them. (I have tried to

explain things in the past.) But when asked 'How are you doing? " I answer

honestly, though without all the details. I am sick and tired of saying " I'm

fine. " when I am not.

My folks and sister are NEVER mean or unkind. They just get so uncomfortable

and will not spend even a minute discussing things with me. If I say I am in a

flare and not feeling well they will tell me, " Oh, well, Mrs. is dying of

cancer. " OH MY GOODNESS. Rarely do they say, " Honey, I'm sorry you are feeling

poorly. " What in the world threatens or scares them so much that I get this

kind of response? I am a compassionate and empathetic person. I have lived

through a love one dying from cancer (more than one loved one.) I am NOT ever

implying that I have it " worse' than anyone, for Pete's sake. I am just trying

to be honest and speak what is on my heart. My sister, who was a social worker

for 25 years and the head of adoption services for our county, is just as bad.

She STILL 'doesn't get' RA. I think in her mind RA is just a 'touch of

arthritis'. I tried to explain to her that RA and FMS are systemic and affect

more than just one lone joint. She said, " What is

systemic? "

OK, I really am having a hard time here. I am more tired of feeling crappy

than any of my relatives are of hearing about it, I am sure. I have kept so

much inside because it is not received well. Why? If one of my kids say

something is wrong or they are not feeling well, I WANT to know what is wrong, I

ask questions, I do research, I call them and tell them I am sorry and ask what

I can do.

Now, I am feeling like I am being too hard on my folks and sister. For there

love for me is unquestionable. But I hate feeling lonely even when I am with

them because they cannot or do not 'get it'. They show their love for me in so

many other ways for which I am grateful. But this still hurts.

I know feeling crummy all night, waking up with my fingers throbbing and my

hips screaming colors things. But just needed to vent a little.

Love to all...

Tess in Oregon

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,

From my own experience, Methotrexate is working within the first 3-4

weeks and should be at its full benefit after the 8th week. I found

this to be true with me. My RA dr. said any dosage adjustments

shouldn't be made before 8 weeks. Your Dr. may need to adjust your

dosage if you are not feeling better after 8 weeks? I don't know

very much yet either. I am only on week 10 of Methotrexate. I also

take Naprosen. Are you on any anti-inflams?

Does MTX med make your tummy upset? I take it on Fridays and feel

kind of crappy for a couple of days. I have (this is gross) burps

that are vomity tasting, nausea, blah, blah... The first few weeks

were worse, but still have some side-effects. I hope this is

helpful~bree

>

> Hi Friends...I know I have been down a lot lately, and I hope

you forgive me for rattling on. I just need to talk a little here.

Something that we all here have discussed before. I went to my folks

and I love them to pieces. They are great, and love me dearly. As

does my sister (my only sibling). But, they do NOT get 'why' I feel

so lousy sometimes. Believe me, I hardly say anything, as I know it

is not a subject that will be comfortable for them. (I have tried to

explain things in the past.) But when asked 'How are you doing? " I

answer honestly, though without all the details. I am sick and tired

of saying " I'm fine. " when I am not.

>

> My folks and sister are NEVER mean or unkind. They just get so

uncomfortable and will not spend even a minute discussing things with

me. If I say I am in a flare and not feeling well they will tell

me, " Oh, well, Mrs. is dying of cancer. " OH MY GOODNESS.

Rarely do they say, " Honey, I'm sorry you are feeling poorly. " What

in the world threatens or scares them so much that I get this kind of

response? I am a compassionate and empathetic person. I have lived

through a love one dying from cancer (more than one loved one.) I am

NOT ever implying that I have it " worse' than anyone, for Pete's

sake. I am just trying to be honest and speak what is on my heart.

My sister, who was a social worker for 25 years and the head of

adoption services for our county, is just as bad. She STILL 'doesn't

get' RA. I think in her mind RA is just a 'touch of arthritis'. I

tried to explain to her that RA and FMS are systemic and affect more

than just one lone joint. She said, " What is

> systemic? "

>

> OK, I really am having a hard time here. I am more tired of

feeling crappy than any of my relatives are of hearing about it, I am

sure. I have kept so much inside because it is not received well.

Why? If one of my kids say something is wrong or they are not

feeling well, I WANT to know what is wrong, I ask questions, I do

research, I call them and tell them I am sorry and ask what I can do.

>

> Now, I am feeling like I am being too hard on my folks and

sister. For there love for me is unquestionable. But I hate feeling

lonely even when I am with them because they cannot or do not 'get

it'. They show their love for me in so many other ways for which I

am grateful. But this still hurts.

>

> I know feeling crummy all night, waking up with my fingers

throbbing and my hips screaming colors things. But just needed to

vent a little.

>

> Love to all...

>

> Tess in Oregon

>

>

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From my own experience, Methotrexate is working within the first 3-4

weeks and should be at its full benefit after the 8th week. I found

this to be true with me. My RA dr. said any dosage adjustments

shouldn't be made before 8 weeks. Your Dr. may need to adjust your

dosage if you are not feeling better after 8 weeks? I don't know

very much yet either. I am only on week 10 of Methotrexate. I also

take Naprosen. Are you on any anti-inflams?

Does MTX med make your tummy upset? I take it on Fridays and feel

kind of crappy for a couple of days. I have (this is gross) burps

that are vomity tasting, nausea, blah, blah... The first few weeks

were worse, but still have some side-effects. I hope this is

helpful~bree

>

> Hi Friends...I know I have been down a lot lately, and I hope

you forgive me for rattling on. I just need to talk a little here.

Something that we all here have discussed before. I went to my folks

and I love them to pieces. They are great, and love me dearly. As

does my sister (my only sibling). But, they do NOT get 'why' I feel

so lousy sometimes. Believe me, I hardly say anything, as I know it

is not a subject that will be comfortable for them. (I have tried to

explain things in the past.) But when asked 'How are you doing? " I

answer honestly, though without all the details. I am sick and tired

of saying " I'm fine. " when I am not.

>

> My folks and sister are NEVER mean or unkind. They just get so

uncomfortable and will not spend even a minute discussing things with

me. If I say I am in a flare and not feeling well they will tell

me, " Oh, well, Mrs. is dying of cancer. " OH MY GOODNESS.

Rarely do they say, " Honey, I'm sorry you are feeling poorly. " What

in the world threatens or scares them so much that I get this kind of

response? I am a compassionate and empathetic person. I have lived

through a love one dying from cancer (more than one loved one.) I am

NOT ever implying that I have it " worse' than anyone, for Pete's

sake. I am just trying to be honest and speak what is on my heart.

My sister, who was a social worker for 25 years and the head of

adoption services for our county, is just as bad. She STILL 'doesn't

get' RA. I think in her mind RA is just a 'touch of arthritis'. I

tried to explain to her that RA and FMS are systemic and affect more

than just one lone joint. She said, " What is

> systemic? "

>

> OK, I really am having a hard time here. I am more tired of

feeling crappy than any of my relatives are of hearing about it, I am

sure. I have kept so much inside because it is not received well.

Why? If one of my kids say something is wrong or they are not

feeling well, I WANT to know what is wrong, I ask questions, I do

research, I call them and tell them I am sorry and ask what I can do.

>

> Now, I am feeling like I am being too hard on my folks and

sister. For there love for me is unquestionable. But I hate feeling

lonely even when I am with them because they cannot or do not 'get

it'. They show their love for me in so many other ways for which I

am grateful. But this still hurts.

>

> I know feeling crummy all night, waking up with my fingers

throbbing and my hips screaming colors things. But just needed to

vent a little.

>

> Love to all...

>

> Tess in Oregon

>

>

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