Guest guest Posted March 22, 2001 Report Share Posted March 22, 2001 Sara, I hadn't heard that before...that you alerted your local police to Elie and the possibility of his wandering. What a GREAT idea! Something so simple and it has the potential to save so much heartache! My son is a Deputy Sheriff in Los Angeles County and he has told me that they get little to no specific training about dealing with the developmentally disabled population. I think anything that would alert local law enforcement to a potential problem can only help them to understand the the special needs of our kids and adult kids! Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2001 Report Share Posted March 22, 2001 We bought magnetic door alarms at Radio Shack. They have an immediate alarm and a delay that allows one to open and shut the door quickly without a sound and a silent mode. We also use garden chimes on interior doors - all different so we know when Elie is entering places he is NOT to enter without supervision. We use a hardwire system at night that sets off a silent alarm to the police in case he opens a door when we are sleeping. wandering is very scary. Let me remind new people - we went to the police station and gave them a picture of elie - just in case he is found wandering they will know who he is and what his responses to them are likely to be. My big fear is that he will not reposnd appopriately to and adult giving an order and he will get hurt!! There are two companies that sell systems to attach to the child. One is called Wander Care and is in Colorodo. the other has a similar name that I just forgot, but it started out as an arrow locating system for hunters!! Both are on the internet. they both work on a sonar system - Navy types will understand how that works. Some states mediaide will pay for them - after all, wandering is a danger to life and a reason for sending a hild to an institution - something all states want to avoid!!! Sara _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2001 Report Share Posted March 22, 2001 Thank you Sara, the information you posted will sure be helpfull to us. Angel, 5, is really starting to scare me. She is very determined to escape somehow. I will check out the alarms and see how well my hubby can hear them, if he can, and will also try to get some info on the Wander Care. Do you have a website for them at all? Someone else posted a suggestion a few days ago about considering a trained alert dog that could tell us when Angel is leaving. I like that idea because we could then give her some freedom to play in the yard and not have to be right at her side always. Independance. She is so mad that she has me tagging along and points at me and tells me to GO. Can't blame her. But we all worry too much about her safety. Do we have any Canadians here who might know of how and where you can get trained alert dogs for kids like ours? I am also wondering how easy it would be to make a veil bed. Has anyone here made one rather than bought one? And, if you have bought one, how much was it? Sorry, lots of questions. Thanks again to everyone for passing on such great ideas. It amazes me, the information I have been able to get here. Cheryl Re: Door alarms > We bought magnetic door alarms at Radio Shack. They have an immediate alarm > and a delay that allows one to open and shut the door quickly without a > sound and a silent mode. We also use garden chimes on interior doors - all > different so we know when Elie is entering places he is NOT to enter without > supervision. We use a hardwire system at night that sets off a silent alarm > to the police in case he opens a door when we are sleeping. wandering is > very scary. Let me remind new people - we went to the police station and > gave them a picture of elie - just in case he is found wandering they will > know who he is and what his responses to them are likely to be. My big fear > is that he will not reposnd appopriately to and adult giving an order and he > will get hurt!! > > There are two companies that sell systems to attach to the child. One is > called Wander Care and is in Colorodo. the other has a similar name that I > just forgot, but it started out as an arrow locating system for hunters!! > Both are on the internet. they both work on a sonar system - Navy types > will understand how that works. Some states mediaide will pay for them - > after all, wandering is a danger to life and a reason for sending a hild to > an institution - something all states want to avoid!!! > > Sara > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > > http://www.onelist.com/community/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2001 Report Share Posted March 22, 2001 Oh, , meant to say, I was considering going to the police and the neighbors to warn them all as well. Great to see you did this. We are new in our neighborhood as we just moved here a few months ago so this would be a really good thing for us to do. Cheryl Re: Door alarms > We bought magnetic door alarms at Radio Shack. They have an immediate alarm > and a delay that allows one to open and shut the door quickly without a > sound and a silent mode. We also use garden chimes on interior doors - all > different so we know when Elie is entering places he is NOT to enter without > supervision. We use a hardwire system at night that sets off a silent alarm > to the police in case he opens a door when we are sleeping. wandering is > very scary. Let me remind new people - we went to the police station and > gave them a picture of elie - just in case he is found wandering they will > know who he is and what his responses to them are likely to be. My big fear > is that he will not reposnd appopriately to and adult giving an order and he > will get hurt!! > > There are two companies that sell systems to attach to the child. One is > called Wander Care and is in Colorodo. the other has a similar name that I > just forgot, but it started out as an arrow locating system for hunters!! > Both are on the internet. they both work on a sonar system - Navy types > will understand how that works. Some states mediaide will pay for them - > after all, wandering is a danger to life and a reason for sending a hild to > an institution - something all states want to avoid!!! > > Sara > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > > http://www.onelist.com/community/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2001 Report Share Posted March 23, 2001 In a message dated 3/22/01 11:23:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, Imaddenmom@... writes: << Sara, I hadn't heard that before...that you alerted your local police to Elie and the possibility of his wandering. What a GREAT idea! Something so simple and it has the potential to save so much heartache! >> Living in the city of Philadelphia, this would do us no good. Remember we're the city where Eddie Pollack was beaten to death while the 911 system failed him. But I have notified all my neighbors that if they EVER see Maddie unaccompanied, they are to promptly pick her up and carry her home. My next door neighbor did this once; just scooped her up as she was running in the street!! Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2001 Report Share Posted March 23, 2001 In a message dated 3/23/01 2:06:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, duffey48@... writes: << Living in the city of Philadelphia, this would do us no good. Remember we're the city where Eddie Pollack was beaten to death while the 911 system failed him. But I have notified all my neighbors that if they EVER see Maddie unaccompanied, they are to promptly pick her up and carry her home. My next door neighbor did this once; just scooped her up as she was running in the street!! Donna >> Donna, What happens when they can't pick her up anymore? That scares me about Seth. He's 36 pounds now and hard to hold if he doesn't want to be held. Gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2001 Report Share Posted March 23, 2001 In a message dated 3/23/01 3:18:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, smilinggail@... writes: << Donna, What happens when they can't pick her up anymore? That scares me about Seth. He's 36 pounds now and hard to hold if he doesn't want to be held. Gail >> Well, Maddie is much more compliant now than she was two and three years ago Gail, and so I'm hoping that we'll have more of that as she ages. This is one of the things they are working on at school. They chart her weekly for results. Maddie now weighs 46 pounds but it feels like 246 when you are trying to get her to do something she doesn't want to. Lately, just giving her a little time works. I hold out my hand and WAIT!!!!! Eventually, she'll take it. I just tell the cabbie in the morning......we'll be out in a while.....LOLOL I've learned not to be stressed about that stuff. Of course, there are times when you can't wait, and then I try to play a little *run* game with Maddie. She loves to jump and run, so I make it a game. I have to start jumping in front of her and that lets her know we're going to run!! Works most times these days. We have another little nasty trick we used a lot at the airport when we had to MOVE!!!! We just steal her ball and roll it in the direction we want her to go. She'll follow, no problem...LOLOLOL Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2001 Report Share Posted March 23, 2001 For a five year old child, I would think about securing the bedroom rather than a bed/cage. I had used when Elie was younger, a regular outdoor screen door with an outside latch. then Elie could get up in the morning or during the night and play in his room but not get out of his room. Another friend of mine made a dutch door. (She cut off the top of her son's bedroom door and put the lock side on the outside. I will look for Wander Care's web site. Sara _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2001 Report Share Posted March 23, 2001 In our city we alert the fire dept., ambulance company, and I have inserviced the police dept. just to be sure we are on the same page. A few weeks ago one of my students had a seizure when we were walking to the library. Some kind soul called the police who sent two cars, told me to get out of the way and demanded the student answer their questions, when he didn't respond they got agitated and called for back-up. We had a BIG meeting with the police commander and all his staff has since been inserviced. The director of another center told me she was a teacher for the deaf-blind in a college. One of the students had a seizure and the campus police responded by ripping her shirt off and giving her CPR. God help us...;-) Judy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2001 Report Share Posted March 23, 2001 In a message dated 3/23/01 2:41:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, pastmidvale@... writes: << For a five year old child, I would think about securing the bedroom rather than a bed/cage. I had used when Elie was younger, a regular outdoor screen door with an outside latch. then Elie could get up in the morning or during the night and play in his room but not get out of his room. Another friend of mine made a dutch door. (She cut off the top of her son's bedroom door and put the lock side on the outside. I will look for Wander Care's web site. Sara >> Sara, Are you referring to Seth? We tried the screen door, lasted 2 nights. Tried one with metal at the bottom and screen at the top, but he loved the banging noise that made. (I didn't!) LOL Half door I would give him 2 seconds to be over it and out. Our big thing with Seth is the pica. If he is awake and alone, there goes the walls, woodwork, elec. outlets etc... Not usually a problem because I am up before him and get him as soon as he wakes. But now he is starting to wale about 2 or3 AM and I am usually just going to bed then. Gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2001 Report Share Posted March 23, 2001 In a message dated 3/23/01 4:06:21 PM Eastern Standard Time, duffey48@... writes: << We have another little nasty trick we used a lot at the airport when we had to MOVE!!!! We just steal her ball and roll it in the direction we want her to go. She'll follow, no problem...LOLOLOL Donna >> LOL Well, whatever works, huh? LOL Gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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