Re: Re: successes in pottie training

[Guest guest]

Hi Marie,

That's exactly my situation. Yesterday I thought he would make it all day with a

dry pull up but, right before bed he pooped and peed in his pull up.

Sometimes he feels like telling me and other times he cares less.

Thank you for sharing with me.

I guess we keep moving forward & nbsp;

Good luck & nbsp;

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On Sep 2, 2011 1:34 PM, marie1330 & lt;liam.owen.mom@... & gt; wrote:

& nbsp;

HI ,

We are still at the potty training stage with my son,Liam, who will be 8 this

coming week.

He will urinate on the toilet but does NOT stay dry between taking him to the

bathroom. He has a schedule at school when he gets bathroom breaks. They chart

times he's taken and what happens, as in he's wet/ urinated in the

toilet/changed pull-up. We have not had much progress in this area for the last

few years . There were a couple of days early August that Liam seemed to be

staying dry and we tried underwear, but that only lasted a few days and then

back to ground zero. He doesn't seem to mind being wet/dirty when using

underwear.

I so wish this would happen for him, I really don't know what else to try. We

have the routine down but the act itself seems a long way off.

we just keep trying!!

Marie

mom to Liam,7,DS,PDD-NOS, Celiac

Owen,5

& gt;

& gt; Hi everyone, & amp;nbsp;with CJs (age 9) communication and academics

developing, he is also showing signs of going pottie.

& gt;

& gt; He is still in pull ups, we take him and sometimes he will go and keep dry

but others times he can wait and stay dry until the next time.

& gt;

& gt; His life skills teacher is ready to start using underwear at school because

she says he is doing awesome there.

& gt;

& gt; What successes have you all had in dealing with pottie training or is

anyone else still waiting for their kiddo to be ready?

& gt;

& gt; Thanks

& gt;

& gt;

& gt;

& gt;

& gt;

& gt;

& gt;

[Guest guest]

Hi - My daughter turns 12 tomorrow and has had very little success with

potty training.  There

has been progress on urine, but we had to go back to GoodNites pull-ups

full-time because of a complete

inability for her to control her bowels at all.  We've been to multiple

doctors, and the last one told me that

there are some things they can't fix and this may be one of them.  It's

basically a suspected spinal nerve

or motility issue.  We see a new specialist next Friday and will see what tests

he wants to do, etc. 

Theresa - Northern VA

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To:

Sent: Friday, September 2, 2011 2:34 PM

Subject: Re: successes in pottie training

 

HI ,

We are still at the potty training stage with my son,Liam, who will be 8 this

coming week.

He will urinate on the toilet but does NOT stay dry between taking him to the

bathroom. He has a schedule at school when he gets bathroom breaks. They chart

times he's taken and what happens, as in he's wet/ urinated in the

toilet/changed pull-up. We have not had much progress in this area for the last

few years . There were a couple of days early August that Liam seemed to be

staying dry and we tried underwear, but that only lasted a few days and then

back to ground zero. He doesn't seem to mind being wet/dirty when using

underwear.

I so wish this would happen for him, I really don't know what else to try. We

have the routine down but the act itself seems a long way off.

we just keep trying!!

Marie

mom to Liam,7,DS,PDD-NOS, Celiac

Owen,5

>

> Hi everyone, & nbsp;with CJs (age 9) communication and academics developing, he

is also showing signs of going pottie.

>

> He is still in pull ups, we take him and sometimes he will go and keep dry but

others times he can wait and stay dry until the next time.

>

> His life skills teacher is ready to start using underwear at school because

she says he is doing awesome there.

>

> What successes have you all had in dealing with pottie training or is anyone

else still waiting for their kiddo to be ready?

>

> Thanks

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Wow thanks Theresa, please let us know what they say. & nbsp;I never considered

it could be nerve issue.

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On Sep 2, 2011 4:22 PM, Theresa Danner & lt;theresadanner@... & gt; wrote:

& nbsp;

Hi - My daughter turns 12 tomorrow and has had very little success with

potty training. & nbsp; There

has been progress on urine, but we had to go back to GoodNites pull-ups

full-time because of a complete

inability for her to control her bowels at all. & nbsp; We've been to multiple

doctors, and the last one told me that

there are some things they can't fix and this may be one of them. & nbsp; It's

basically a suspected spinal nerve

or motility issue. & nbsp; We see a new specialist next Friday and will see what

tests he wants to do, etc. & nbsp;

Theresa - Northern VA

________________________________

From: marie1330 & lt;liam.owen.mom@... & gt;

To:

Sent: Friday, September 2, 2011 2:34 PM

Subject: Re: successes in pottie training

& nbsp;

HI ,

We are still at the potty training stage with my son,Liam, who will be 8 this

coming week.

He will urinate on the toilet but does NOT stay dry between taking him to the

bathroom. He has a schedule at school when he gets bathroom breaks. They chart

times he's taken and what happens, as in he's wet/ urinated in the

toilet/changed pull-up. We have not had much progress in this area for the last

few years . There were a couple of days early August that Liam seemed to be

staying dry and we tried underwear, but that only lasted a few days and then

back to ground zero. He doesn't seem to mind being wet/dirty when using

underwear.

I so wish this would happen for him, I really don't know what else to try. We

have the routine down but the act itself seems a long way off.

we just keep trying!!

Marie

mom to Liam,7,DS,PDD-NOS, Celiac

Owen,5

& gt;

& gt; Hi everyone, & amp;nbsp;with CJs (age 9) communication and academics

developing, he is also showing signs of going pottie.

& gt;

& gt; He is still in pull ups, we take him and sometimes he will go and keep dry

but others times he can wait and stay dry until the next time.

& gt;

& gt; His life skills teacher is ready to start using underwear at school because

she says he is doing awesome there.

& gt;

& gt; What successes have you all had in dealing with pottie training or is

anyone else still waiting for their kiddo to be ready?

& gt;

& gt; Thanks

& gt;

& gt;

& gt;

& gt;

& gt;

& gt;

& gt;

[Guest guest]

We saw at least two gastro people re the bowel issue. But what i have

learned is that doc's can 'fix' what they know or have learned. `I believe

after hearing reams about - too low IQ, over flow from constipation, and use

of various medicament, that my method worked better.

I believed that Elie did not have the sensation which told him that his

rectum was full. HE did know when his bladder needed emptying. So, we

taught him from the very beginning to SIT in the bathroom. After all, some

of those bladder sensations could transfer to the rectum and teach the lower

abdomen to push./ Sometimes we succeeded. Eventually he learned. BUt I

did away with medications - it was apparent to me from day to day up close

and personal with feces that this child was not constipated, having

overflow, etc. So we used a timed method - starting with wake up and then

30-45 minutes thereafter the whole day. After 2 weeks, we went to one hour

- as his bladder could hold 1 hr. YEs we had bowel accidents - especially

when stressed. But after I took the emotion of bowels as something I needed

to stress over and made just another developmental task, Elie did better.

Daipers might possibly have made the school happier, but I believe learning

would be retarded. And Elie learned not to like being dirty before he

learned not TO BE dirty. I believe that would not have happened with

diapers.

Side note - we removed all carpets because there is nothing nastier then

trying to feces smell out of rugs! At one point, I put roll linoleum over

the carpet (rented house) to keep his bedroom carpet clean.

Good thing I developed that attitude because it was a long time from 6 sets

of clothes a day down to one set very occasionally.

What I can say is that it is just a developmental task like breathing and

chewing and swallowing, walking - each child has his own pattern. It

mustn't become a battle - nothing is worth that, IMHO.

On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 5:21 PM, Theresa Danner wrote:

> **

>

>

> Hi - My daughter turns 12 tomorrow and has had very little success

> with potty training. There

> has been progress on urine, but we had to go back to GoodNites pull-ups

> full-time because of a complete

> inability for her to control her bowels at all. We've been to multiple

> doctors, and the last one told me that

> there are some things they can't fix and this may be one of them. It's

> basically a suspected spinal nerve

> or motility issue. We see a new specialist next Friday and will see what

> tests he wants to do, etc.

>

> Theresa - Northern VA

>

> ________________________________

>

> To:

> Sent: Friday, September 2, 2011 2:34 PM

> Subject: Re: successes in pottie training

>

>

> HI ,

> We are still at the potty training stage with my son,Liam, who will be 8

> this coming week.

> He will urinate on the toilet but does NOT stay dry between taking him to

> the bathroom. He has a schedule at school when he gets bathroom breaks. They

> chart times he's taken and what happens, as in he's wet/ urinated in the

> toilet/changed pull-up. We have not had much progress in this area for the

> last few years . There were a couple of days early August that Liam seemed

> to be staying dry and we tried underwear, but that only lasted a few days

> and then back to ground zero. He doesn't seem to mind being wet/dirty when

> using underwear.

> I so wish this would happen for him, I really don't know what else to try.

> We have the routine down but the act itself seems a long way off.

> we just keep trying!!

>

> Marie

> mom to Liam,7,DS,PDD-NOS, Celiac

> Owen,5

>

>

> >

> > Hi everyone, & nbsp;with CJs (age 9) communication and academics

> developing, he is also showing signs of going pottie.

> >

> > He is still in pull ups, we take him and sometimes he will go and keep

> dry but others times he can wait and stay dry until the next time.

> >

> > His life skills teacher is ready to start using underwear at school

> because she says he is doing awesome there.

> >

> > What successes have you all had in dealing with pottie training or is

> anyone else still waiting for their kiddo to be ready?

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I have two things to think about. First we have 's story. He had

progressed nicely but then stalled. He had these intermittent accidents, and

only pooped in the shower. Someone here mentioned constipation, and I found out

that constipation can cause urinary incontinence. We started him on Miralax and

he was trained within a couple of weeks. He has occasional accidents but for

the most part, he's clean and dry every day. (his little sis also needed

Miralax to train...she was dry but pooped in her pants every day...after the

first week on Miralax, she hasn't had another accident at all.

My second thought, if you're sure that constipation isn't a factor, is he may

need to drink a lot more. 's big brother , who has Asperger's

syndrome, had a very very hard time learning to stay dry. We went to a

pediatric urologist and he said that it was very important to make sure that

drank enough water. The Dr explained that when a child has low tone (which

did), it can affect the spinchter muscle that opens to let urine out. The

child won't feel thay they need to pee and may not realize that anything has

come out. The muscle is made stronger when the child is kept very well

hydrated. Then when the muscle is stronger, the child can learn to feel, and

control when the urine comes out.

I don't know if this is what's happening with you, but it definitely helped

. We also learned that there are some drinks that irritate the bladder and

can cause " accidents " ; one of them is lemonade ('s favorite). We recently

forgot about this and started sending him capri sun lemonade at school, and he

immediately started having accidents again. Ugh.

Anyway, if the timed schedule isn't working, maybe there's something else

impeding his progress.

Hth!

Sent from my iPhone

> HI ,

> We are still at the potty training stage with my son,Liam, who will be 8 this

coming week.

> He will urinate on the toilet but does NOT stay dry between taking him to the

bathroom. He has a schedule at school when he gets bathroom breaks. They chart

times he's taken and what happens, as in he's wet/ urinated in the

toilet/changed pull-up. We have not had much progress in this area for the last

few years . There were a couple of days early August that Liam seemed to be

staying dry and we tried underwear, but that only lasted a few days and then

back to ground zero. He doesn't seem to mind being wet/dirty when using

underwear.

> I so wish this would happen for him, I really don't know what else to try. We

have the routine down but the act itself seems a long way off.

> we just keep trying!!

>

> Marie

> mom to Liam,7,DS,PDD-NOS, Celiac

> Owen,5

>

>

> >

> > Hi everyone, & nbsp;with CJs (age 9) communication and academics developing,

he is also showing signs of going pottie.

> >

> > He is still in pull ups, we take him and sometimes he will go and keep dry

but others times he can wait and stay dry until the next time.

> >

> > His life skills teacher is ready to start using underwear at school because

she says he is doing awesome there.

> >

> > What successes have you all had in dealing with pottie training or is anyone

else still waiting for their kiddo to be ready?

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

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Sent: Saturday, September 3, 2011 9:59 AM

Subject: Re: Re: successes in pottie training

 

Hi,

I have two things to think about. First we have 's story. He had

progressed nicely but then stalled. He had these intermittent accidents, and

only pooped in the shower. Someone here mentioned constipation, and I found out

that constipation can cause urinary incontinence. We started him on Miralax and

he was trained within a couple of weeks. He has occasional accidents but for the

most part, he's clean and dry every day. (his little sis also needed Miralax to

train...she was dry but pooped in her pants every day...after the first week on

Miralax, she hasn't had another accident at all.

My second thought, if you're sure that constipation isn't a factor, is he may

need to drink a lot more. 's big brother , who has Asperger's

syndrome, had a very very hard time learning to stay dry. We went to a pediatric

urologist and he said that it was very important to make sure that drank

enough water. The Dr explained that when a child has low tone (which did),

it can affect the spinchter muscle that opens to let urine out. The child won't

feel thay they need to pee and may not realize that anything has come out. The

muscle is made stronger when the child is kept very well hydrated. Then when the

muscle is stronger, the child can learn to feel, and control when the urine

comes out.

I don't know if this is what's happening with you, but it definitely helped

. We also learned that there are some drinks that irritate the bladder and

can cause " accidents " ; one of them is lemonade ('s favorite). We recently

forgot about this and started sending him capri sun lemonade at school, and he

immediately started having accidents again. Ugh.

Anyway, if the timed schedule isn't working, maybe there's something else

impeding his progress.

Hth!

Sent from my iPhone

> HI ,

> We are still at the potty training stage with my son,Liam, who will be 8 this

coming week.

> He will urinate on the toilet but does NOT stay dry between taking him to the

bathroom. He has a schedule at school when he gets bathroom breaks. They chart

times he's taken and what happens, as in he's wet/ urinated in the

toilet/changed pull-up. We have not had much progress in this area for the last

few years . There were a couple of days early August that Liam seemed to be

staying dry and we tried underwear, but that only lasted a few days and then

back to ground zero. He doesn't seem to mind being wet/dirty when using

underwear.

> I so wish this would happen for him, I really don't know what else to try. We

have the routine down but the act itself seems a long way off.

> we just keep trying!!

>

> Marie

> mom to Liam,7,DS,PDD-NOS, Celiac

> Owen,5

>

>

> >

> > Hi everyone, & nbsp;with CJs (age 9) communication and academics developing,

he is also showing signs of going pottie.

> >

> > He is still in pull ups, we take him and sometimes he will go and keep dry

but others times he can wait and stay dry until the next time.

> >

> > His life skills teacher is ready to start using underwear at school because

she says he is doing awesome there.

> >

> > What successes have you all had in dealing with pottie training or is anyone

else still waiting for their kiddo to be ready?

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>