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That was just the time that we adopted Elie. I remember the pictures of the

'fixed' kids with Piracetem on board and the 'fixed' pictures of kids with

tongue surgery. Never saw any differences.

But it DID encourage us to work very hard at mouthy closure and swallowing

saliva and learning to chew. Might never have emphasized those parts of

therapy had it not been for those pictures.

And no we opted out of Piracetem. Never saw any blind studies on its

effectiveness.

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> Boy, does this bring back memories. What is the general consensus about

> Piracetem in the Down syndrome community these days? In 1989, when Ian was

> born, it was *highly* controversial. The woman who was touting it most was

> showing pictures of " improved " facial features -- and there was an uproar

> about how kids with Down syndrome don't have faces that need improvement.

> You couldn't mention Piracetem on a Down syndrome email list without

> starting huge flame wars.

>

> After we made the decision to ignore Piracetem, we lost connection with the

> discussion. Is it generally perceived to be helpful at all? I remember

> charges of overmedication causing potential health risks, and the

> illegality

> of importing it from other countries.

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> The Piracetem to-do happened around the same time as the tongue surgery

> wars. That was quite a time. Of course, Life Goes On came on that year, so

> Down syndrome was in the public conscious.

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Not anticipating a change in *looks* because I am not going to give him this for

DS; I am anticipating on *hearing* a change.

Charlie Hart has apraxia and aphasia; these are *not* typical speech delays you

commonly see in DS.

We have no issues with eating (except every once in a while choking, which we

think is the aphasia...and eating too much, which can also be the aphasia, but

he is by no means overweight) and we really have no issues with his *looks*.

Actually, he *looks* like a very typical

8 year-old boy, but his speech is profoundly messed up.

I do not believe in altering your looks cosmetically (especially when the child

has no say in it...which includes circ.'s), but I do believe we need an MRI asap

because of the behavior, sensory issues on head, and aphasia.

Piracetam is widely used for aphasia patients.

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> > Boy, does this bring back memories. What is the general consensus about

> > Piracetem in the Down syndrome community these days? In 1989, when Ian was

> > born, it was *highly* controversial. The woman who was touting it most was

> > showing pictures of " improved " facial features -- and there was an uproar

> > about how kids with Down syndrome don't have faces that need improvement.

> > You couldn't mention Piracetem on a Down syndrome email list without

> > starting huge flame wars.

> >

> > After we made the decision to ignore Piracetem, we lost connection with the

> > discussion. Is it generally perceived to be helpful at all? I remember

> > charges of overmedication causing potential health risks, and the

> > illegality

> > of importing it from other countries.

> >

> > The Piracetem to-do happened around the same time as the tongue surgery

> > wars. That was quite a time. Of course, Life Goes On came on that year, so

> > Down syndrome was in the public conscious.

> >

> > CK

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I was just wondering what is your concern to think he needs an MRI? & nbsp;

& nbsp; & nbsp; The reason I ask is because my son is exactly the same (9 yrs old)

and I'm wondering if I'm missing something?

Thanks

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On Aug 1, 2011 9:09 AM, agirlnamedsuess21 & lt;agirlnamedsuess@... & gt;

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& nbsp;

Not anticipating a change in *looks* because I am not going to give him this for

DS; I am anticipating on *hearing* a change.

Charlie Hart has apraxia and aphasia; these are *not* typical speech delays you

commonly see in DS.

We have no issues with eating (except every once in a while choking, which we

think is the aphasia...and eating too much, which can also be the aphasia, but

he is by no means overweight) and we really have no issues with his *looks*.

Actually, he *looks* like a very typical

8 year-old boy, but his speech is profoundly messed up.

I do not believe in altering your looks cosmetically (especially when the child

has no say in it...which includes circ.'s), but I do believe we need an MRI asap

because of the behavior, sensory issues on head, and aphasia.

Piracetam is widely used for aphasia patients.

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& gt; & gt; Boy, does this bring back memories. What is the general consensus

about

& gt; & gt; Piracetem in the Down syndrome community these days? In 1989, when Ian

was

& gt; & gt; born, it was *highly* controversial. The woman who was touting it most

was

& gt; & gt; showing pictures of " improved " facial features -- and there was an

uproar

& gt; & gt; about how kids with Down syndrome don't have faces that need

improvement.

& gt; & gt; You couldn't mention Piracetem on a Down syndrome email list without

& gt; & gt; starting huge flame wars.

& gt; & gt;

& gt; & gt; After we made the decision to ignore Piracetem, we lost connection

with the

& gt; & gt; discussion. Is it generally perceived to be helpful at all? I remember

& gt; & gt; charges of overmedication causing potential health risks, and the

& gt; & gt; illegality

& gt; & gt; of importing it from other countries.

& gt; & gt;

& gt; & gt; The Piracetem to-do happened around the same time as the tongue

surgery

& gt; & gt; wars. That was quite a time. Of course, Life Goes On came on that

year, so

& gt; & gt; Down syndrome was in the public conscious.

& gt; & gt;

& gt; & gt; CK

& gt; & gt;

& gt; & gt;

& gt; & gt;

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He has aphasia; aphasia is caused from Traumatic Brain Injury of some sort. We

need to find out if he has or has had a brain tumor, intracranial bleed, or

stroke, or if infection may be the cause.

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> & gt; & gt; Piracetem in the Down syndrome community these days? In 1989, when

Ian was

>

> & gt; & gt; born, it was *highly* controversial. The woman who was touting it

most was

>

> & gt; & gt; showing pictures of " improved " facial features -- and there was an

uproar

>

> & gt; & gt; about how kids with Down syndrome don't have faces that need

improvement.

>

> & gt; & gt; You couldn't mention Piracetem on a Down syndrome email list without

>

> & gt; & gt; starting huge flame wars.

>

> & gt; & gt;

>

> & gt; & gt; After we made the decision to ignore Piracetem, we lost connection

with the

>

> & gt; & gt; discussion. Is it generally perceived to be helpful at all? I

remember

>

> & gt; & gt; charges of overmedication causing potential health risks, and the

>

> & gt; & gt; illegality

>

> & gt; & gt; of importing it from other countries.

>

> & gt; & gt;

>

> & gt; & gt; The Piracetem to-do happened around the same time as the tongue

surgery

>

> & gt; & gt; wars. That was quite a time. Of course, Life Goes On came on that

year, so

>

> & gt; & gt; Down syndrome was in the public conscious.

>

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> & gt; & gt; CK

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Thank you I will make sure to mention this to his drs!

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On Aug 2, 2011 7:59 AM, agirlnamedsuess21 & lt;agirlnamedsuess@... & gt;

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& nbsp;

He has aphasia; aphasia is caused from Traumatic Brain Injury of some sort. We

need to find out if he has or has had a brain tumor, intracranial bleed, or

stroke, or if infection may be the cause.

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consensus about

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& gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt; Piracetem in the Down syndrome community these days? In

1989, when Ian was

& gt;

& gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt; born, it was *highly* controversial. The woman who was

touting it most was

& gt;

& gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt; showing pictures of " improved " facial features -- and

there was an uproar

& gt;

& gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt; about how kids with Down syndrome don't have faces that

need improvement.

& gt;

& gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt; You couldn't mention Piracetem on a Down syndrome email

list without

& gt;

& gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt; starting huge flame wars.

& gt;

& gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt;

& gt;

& gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt; After we made the decision to ignore Piracetem, we lost

connection with the

& gt;

& gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt; discussion. Is it generally perceived to be helpful at

all? I remember

& gt;

& gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt; charges of overmedication causing potential health risks,

and the

& gt;

& gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt; illegality

& gt;

& gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt; of importing it from other countries.

& gt;

& gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt;

& gt;

& gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt; The Piracetem to-do happened around the same time as the

tongue surgery

& gt;

& gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt; wars. That was quite a time. Of course, Life Goes On came

on that year, so

& gt;

& gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt; Down syndrome was in the public conscious.

& gt;

& gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt;

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& gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt; CK

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Does your child have aphasia or just speech delay? There are many different

types of speech disorders. My son not only has aphasia, but also has verbal

apraxia; for verbal apraxia or other speech disorders (like articulation

disorders), a MRI would not be beneficial.

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consensus about

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> & gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt; Piracetem in the Down syndrome community these days? In

1989, when Ian was

>

> & gt;

>

> & gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt; born, it was *highly* controversial. The woman who was

touting it most was

>

> & gt;

>

> & gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt; showing pictures of " improved " facial features -- and

there was an uproar

>

> & gt;

>

> & gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt; about how kids with Down syndrome don't have faces that

need improvement.

>

> & gt;

>

> & gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt; You couldn't mention Piracetem on a Down syndrome email

list without

>

> & gt;

>

> & gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt; starting huge flame wars.

>

> & gt;

>

> & gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt;

>

> & gt;

>

> & gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt; After we made the decision to ignore Piracetem, we lost

connection with the

>

> & gt;

>

> & gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt; discussion. Is it generally perceived to be helpful at

all? I remember

>

> & gt;

>

> & gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt; charges of overmedication causing potential health

risks, and the

>

> & gt;

>

> & gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt; illegality

>

> & gt;

>

> & gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt; of importing it from other countries.

>

> & gt;

>

> & gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt;

>

> & gt;

>

> & gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt; The Piracetem to-do happened around the same time as

the tongue surgery

>

> & gt;

>

> & gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt; wars. That was quite a time. Of course, Life Goes On

came on that year, so

>

> & gt;

>

> & gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt; Down syndrome was in the public conscious.

>

> & gt;

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