Guest guest Posted July 3, 2011 Report Share Posted July 3, 2011 Elie escaped Before LOCK DOWN (BLD) and was found several acres away on a country road, doing his flopped and dying roach act. He was circled by our country neighbors in pick up trucks. I found him because they kept honking their horns. As soon as he saw me he got right up and walked home like nothing happened. > ** > > > > > Yes, we also live with every door deadbolted. Pete had run off different > times over the years, but hasn't for quite some time. I do believe he's > grown out of it, but so help me, I do believe the first time I don't use a > deadbolt he'll KNOW and take off, so we just are meticulous. It is hairy > when we travel, but I have put a chair against the hotel door with stuff on > it that would make noise when it was moved. > > Our pediatrician gave us some good advice. He said kids who are " runners " > or escape artists are seeking an adrenaline rush, and that is the motivating > factor. He also said that when there is a significant, successful escape, a > study that followed some of these kids/situations discovered that there is a > high percentage of kids who will attempt another try within six weeks of the > first. (I learned this after Pete took my key and let himself out while I > was on the phone with the Dr's office for something else- found the door > open with my key in it. I also NEVER leave my key off of my person now. It > was the only time I had to call 911 and Pete was found a few blocks away by > a local patrol officer. Pete was sweating and scared but also laughing his > hysterical laugh at the same time.) We have taken significant measures to > keep things locked up and know where our keys are and know exactly where > Pete is at all times. Um, some days a trip to the bathroom could be risky if > I was the only one home with him. That's not been an issue in a while, but I > could never take a shower with him home alone unless he was sleeping. > > If you go to the Disability Solutions here: > > http://www.disabilitycompass.org/publications/back-issues-of-disability-solution\ s/volume-four > > (you might have to cut an paste this) you can download the the third issue > of Vol. 4 and get an excellent overview of this behavior. > > IMO, the most hair-raising escape story of all time on this list goes to > Donna's Maddie, who took off one afternoon and was found in the middle of a > busy Philly intersection during rush hour traffic. Some women had parked > their cars in such a way as to cut off traffic until the police and Donna > could get their. > > Several kids, including Maddie, have climbed out onto roofs, too. > > I too think we have a lot of guardian angels working overtime. > > Beth > 20 y/o Pete's Mum > > > > > > > > > Subject: Scary... > > To: " " < > > > Date: Sunday, July 3, 2011, 12:55 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, all, > > > > > > > > We're on our way home from a very busy vacation in Maine. was our > alarm clock every morning (emphasis on " alarm " ) but seemed to enjoy hiking > this year. . We found a lot of hikes that involved climbing over boulders > and cliffs, which made him very happy. . > > > > > > > > On our last morning in our motel, we were having breakfast. and > were bickering, DH was joining in at times. We suddenly noticed that we > weren't hearing , who'd been happily playing with his Tuck and > Ming-Ming mini-figures (Wonderpets) just a moment before. DH assumed he was > in the bathroom but I ran to check the window. Sure enough, he'd gotten it > open, kicked out the screen, and was GONE. My heart in my throat, I looked > at the swingset...he was swinging and laughing! The motel has a pool too, > and is on a busy road, so I was terrified. > > > > > > > > So, when you have an escape artist (he did all of this while in the same > room as his parents, two brothers, a sister, and a dog!), how do you teach > them not to escape?? Will this get better when he can use his talker??? > > > > > > > > The worst part is, he was so proud of himself afterwards. He kept walking > to the window and laughing!!! > > > > > > > > Sigh. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2011 Report Share Posted July 3, 2011 Yes, at almost 18, her climbing out windows and trying to escape hasn't diminished. I think it's just inherent to her nature. She does it at Melmark too, so it's not like it's just an " at home " behavior. There are definitely guardian angels, and in our case, they have come in human form....such as the women who turned their cars in such a way to stop traffic. And then the cab driver who stopped his car in the lane beside me when Maddie climbed out the car window while I was driving. The thing about Maddie is she sits still and calm, looking for all the world like a peaceful quiet kid just enjoying the moment, and at the least expected moment, she is speed lightening doing something scary. I know all about those risky bathroom trips too MB....no doubt many of us do. Hugs to all of us!!!!! Donna > > > Yes, we also live with every door deadbolted. Pete had run off different times over the years, but hasn't for quite some time. I do believe he's grown out of it, but so help me, I do believe the first time I don't use a deadbolt he'll KNOW and take off, so we just are meticulous. It is hairy when we travel, but I have put a chair against the hotel door with stuff on it that would make noise when it was moved. > > Our pediatrician gave us some good advice. He said kids who are " runners " or escape artists are seeking an adrenaline rush, and that is the motivating factor. He also said that when there is a significant, successful escape, a study that followed some of these kids/situations discovered that there is a high percentage of kids who will attempt another try within six weeks of the first. (I learned this after Pete took my key and let himself out while I was on the phone with the Dr's office for something else- found the door open with my key in it. I also NEVER leave my key off of my person now. It was the only time I had to call 911 and Pete was found a few blocks away by a local patrol officer. Pete was sweating and scared but also laughing his hysterical laugh at the same time.) We have taken significant measures to keep things locked up and know where our keys are and know exactly where Pete is at all times. Um, some days a trip to the bathroom could be risky if I was the only one home with him. That's not been an issue in a while, but I could never take a shower with him home alone unless he was sleeping. > > If you go to the Disability Solutions here: > http://www.disabilitycompass.org/publications/back-issues-of-disability-solution\ s/volume-four > > (you might have to cut an paste this) you can download the the third issue of Vol. 4 and get an excellent overview of this behavior. > > IMO, the most hair-raising escape story of all time on this list goes to Donna's Maddie, who took off one afternoon and was found in the middle of a busy Philly intersection during rush hour traffic. Some women had parked their cars in such a way as to cut off traffic until the police and Donna could get their. > > Several kids, including Maddie, have climbed out onto roofs, too. > > I too think we have a lot of guardian angels working overtime. > > Beth > 20 y/o Pete's Mum > > > > > > > > > Subject: Scary... > > To: " " < > > > Date: Sunday, July 3, 2011, 12:55 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, all, > > > > > > > > We're on our way home from a very busy vacation in Maine. was our alarm clock every morning (emphasis on " alarm " ) but seemed to enjoy hiking this year. . We found a lot of hikes that involved climbing over boulders and cliffs, which made him very happy. . > > > > > > > > On our last morning in our motel, we were having breakfast. and were bickering, DH was joining in at times. We suddenly noticed that we weren't hearing , who'd been happily playing with his Tuck and Ming-Ming mini-figures (Wonderpets) just a moment before. DH assumed he was in the bathroom but I ran to check the window. Sure enough, he'd gotten it open, kicked out the screen, and was GONE. My heart in my throat, I looked at the swingset...he was swinging and laughing! The motel has a pool too, and is on a busy road, so I was terrified. > > > > > > > > So, when you have an escape artist (he did all of this while in the same room as his parents, two brothers, a sister, and a dog!), how do you teach them not to escape?? Will this get better when he can use his talker??? > > > > > > > > The worst part is, he was so proud of himself afterwards. He kept walking to the window and laughing!!! > > > > > > > > Sigh. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2011 Report Share Posted July 3, 2011 I'm an idiot...I never even considered there'd be any kind of " rush " !! I figured, we'd been thwarting his desire to swing by using the deadbolt and the chain lock. I figured his self-pride came from finding a solution to his problem! Adrenaline rush--explains a LOT! Sent from my iPhone > > > Yes, we also live with every door deadbolted. Pete had run off different times over the years, but hasn't for quite some time. I do believe he's grown out of it, but so help me, I do believe the first time I don't use a deadbolt he'll KNOW and take off, so we just are meticulous. It is hairy when we travel, but I have put a chair against the hotel door with stuff on it that would make noise when it was moved. > > Our pediatrician gave us some good advice. He said kids who are " runners " or escape artists are seeking an adrenaline rush, and that is the motivating factor. He also said that when there is a significant, successful escape, a study that followed some of these kids/situations discovered that there is a high percentage of kids who will attempt another try within six weeks of the first. (I learned this after Pete took my key and let himself out while I was on the phone with the Dr's office for something else- found the door open with my key in it. I also NEVER leave my key off of my person now. It was the only time I had to call 911 and Pete was found a few blocks away by a local patrol officer. Pete was sweating and scared but also laughing his hysterical laugh at the same time.) We have taken significant measures to keep things locked up and know where our keys are and know exactly where Pete is at all times. Um, some days a trip to the bathroom could be risky if I was the only one home with him. That's not been an issue in a while, but I could never take a shower with him home alone unless he was sleeping. > > If you go to the Disability Solutions here: > http://www.disabilitycompass.org/publications/back-issues-of-disability-solution\ s/volume-four > > (you might have to cut an paste this) you can download the the third issue of Vol. 4 and get an excellent overview of this behavior. > > IMO, the most hair-raising escape story of all time on this list goes to Donna's Maddie, who took off one afternoon and was found in the middle of a busy Philly intersection during rush hour traffic. Some women had parked their cars in such a way as to cut off traffic until the police and Donna could get their. > > Several kids, including Maddie, have climbed out onto roofs, too. > > I too think we have a lot of guardian angels working overtime. > > Beth > 20 y/o Pete's Mum > > > > > > > > > Subject: Scary... > > To: " " < > > > Date: Sunday, July 3, 2011, 12:55 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, all, > > > > > > > > We're on our way home from a very busy vacation in Maine. was our alarm clock every morning (emphasis on " alarm " ) but seemed to enjoy hiking this year. . We found a lot of hikes that involved climbing over boulders and cliffs, which made him very happy. . > > > > > > > > On our last morning in our motel, we were having breakfast. and were bickering, DH was joining in at times. We suddenly noticed that we weren't hearing , who'd been happily playing with his Tuck and Ming-Ming mini-figures (Wonderpets) just a moment before. DH assumed he was in the bathroom but I ran to check the window. Sure enough, he'd gotten it open, kicked out the screen, and was GONE. My heart in my throat, I looked at the swingset...he was swinging and laughing! The motel has a pool too, and is on a busy road, so I was terrified. > > > > > > > > So, when you have an escape artist (he did all of this while in the same room as his parents, two brothers, a sister, and a dog!), how do you teach them not to escape?? Will this get better when he can use his talker??? > > > > > > > > The worst part is, he was so proud of himself afterwards. He kept walking to the window and laughing!!! > > > > > > > > Sigh. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2011 Report Share Posted July 3, 2011 Took Elie in the bathroom with me and locked the door for YEARS!!!! And then there was the year he chose to leave while we were visiting in Brookline MA - lost for 2 hours at dusk in a strange town. HE found a garage roof level with the street to sit and watch the sun set!! And the year he got out and went into a strange neighbors house - where he stayed watching TV - AND THEY LET HIM_ until he changed the channel - then they called the police. And the year he decided to get into the cornfields. Ever try to find someone in the corn field?? We finally climbed into the hay mow so we could see WHERE the corn was rippling - another 2 hours of terror! Those were the days - at least now he hasn't done this now in 5 years. > Yes, at almost 18, her climbing out windows and trying to escape hasn't > diminished. I think it's just inherent to her nature. She does it at > Melmark too, so it's not like it's just an " at home " behavior. There > are definitely guardian angels, and in our case, they have come in human > form....such as the women who turned their cars in such a way to stop > traffic. And then the cab driver who stopped his car in the lane beside > me when Maddie climbed out the car window while I was driving. The > thing about Maddie is she sits still and calm, looking for all the world > like a peaceful quiet kid just enjoying the moment, and at the least > expected moment, she is speed lightening doing something scary. I know > all about those risky bathroom trips too MB....no doubt many of us do. > Hugs to all of us!!!!! > Donna > > > > > > > > > > Yes, we also live with every door deadbolted. Pete had run off different > times over the years, but hasn't for quite some time. I do believe he's > grown out of it, but so help me, I do believe the first time I don't use a > deadbolt he'll KNOW and take off, so we just are meticulous. It is hairy > when we travel, but I have put a chair against the hotel door with stuff on > it that would make noise when it was moved. > > > > Our pediatrician gave us some good advice. He said kids who are " runners " > or escape artists are seeking an adrenaline rush, and that is the motivating > factor. He also said that when there is a significant, successful escape, a > study that followed some of these kids/situations discovered that there is a > high percentage of kids who will attempt another try within six weeks of the > first. (I learned this after Pete took my key and let himself out while I > was on the phone with the Dr's office for something else- found the door > open with my key in it. I also NEVER leave my key off of my person now. It > was the only time I had to call 911 and Pete was found a few blocks away by > a local patrol officer. Pete was sweating and scared but also laughing his > hysterical laugh at the same time.) We have taken significant measures to > keep things locked up and know where our keys are and know exactly where > Pete is at all times. Um, some days a trip to the bathroom could be risky if > I was the only one home with him. That's not been an issue in a while, but I > could never take a shower with him home alone unless he was sleeping. > > > > If you go to the Disability Solutions here: > > > http://www.disabilitycompass.org/publications/back-issues-of-disability-solution\ s/volume-four > > > > (you might have to cut an paste this) you can download the the third > issue of Vol. 4 and get an excellent overview of this behavior. > > > > IMO, the most hair-raising escape story of all time on this list goes to > Donna's Maddie, who took off one afternoon and was found in the middle of a > busy Philly intersection during rush hour traffic. Some women had parked > their cars in such a way as to cut off traffic until the police and Donna > could get their. > > > > Several kids, including Maddie, have climbed out onto roofs, too. > > > > I too think we have a lot of guardian angels working overtime. > > > > Beth > > 20 y/o Pete's Mum > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Scary... > > > To: " " < > > > > Date: Sunday, July 3, 2011, 12:55 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, all, > > > > > > > > > > > > We're on our way home from a very busy vacation in Maine. was > our alarm clock every morning (emphasis on " alarm " ) but seemed to enjoy > hiking this year. . We found a lot of hikes that involved climbing over > boulders and cliffs, which made him very happy. . > > > > > > > > > > > > On our last morning in our motel, we were having breakfast. and > were bickering, DH was joining in at times. We suddenly noticed that we > weren't hearing , who'd been happily playing with his Tuck and > Ming-Ming mini-figures (Wonderpets) just a moment before. DH assumed he was > in the bathroom but I ran to check the window. Sure enough, he'd gotten it > open, kicked out the screen, and was GONE. My heart in my throat, I looked > at the swingset...he was swinging and laughing! The motel has a pool too, > and is on a busy road, so I was terrified. > > > > > > > > > > > > So, when you have an escape artist (he did all of this while in the > same room as his parents, two brothers, a sister, and a dog!), how do you > teach them not to escape?? Will this get better when he can use his > talker??? > > > > > > > > > > > > The worst part is, he was so proud of himself afterwards. He kept > walking to the window and laughing!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Sigh. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 We had never had an escape problem although we did get door alarms just in case.....but lately Wesley will go out of the back door and go sit in his car seat...at least he does not run away but still who knows what idea will getinto his head so we are on high alert here... Anne To: From: pastmidvale@... Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 21:36:10 -0400 Subject: Re: Re: Scary... Elie escaped Before LOCK DOWN (BLD) and was found several acres away on a country road, doing his flopped and dying roach act. He was circled by our country neighbors in pick up trucks. I found him because they kept honking their horns. As soon as he saw me he got right up and walked home like nothing happened. > ** > > > > > Yes, we also live with every door deadbolted. Pete had run off different > times over the years, but hasn't for quite some time. I do believe he's > grown out of it, but so help me, I do believe the first time I don't use a > deadbolt he'll KNOW and take off, so we just are meticulous. It is hairy > when we travel, but I have put a chair against the hotel door with stuff on > it that would make noise when it was moved. > > Our pediatrician gave us some good advice. He said kids who are " runners " > o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 We also have combination in combination out locks on all of our doors and travels with extra locks (safety first oven lock) for hotel rooms. We never stay at motels/hotels with room door directly leading outside. We need the buffer should he get out. We have also started alerting staff when we travel. Once, when we were staying ON the beach at Myrtle beach, before we traveled with these locks, Logan got out of our room on the 8th floor with 3 adults (we had adjoining rooms), made it down the elevator, and was on his way out of the hotel when a patron and a staff member stopped him. He was 5 or 6 at the time. I was racing down the stairs while DH was calling security. That was actually before Logan was diagnosed with Autism and one of the stories we used on the application for Logan’s service dog. Now we travel with extra locks AND his service dog. From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of erie54pa Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2011 8:29 PM To: Subject: Re: Scary... Yes, we also live with every door deadbolted. Pete had run off different times over the years, but hasn't for quite some time. I do believe he's grown out of it, but so help me, I do believe the first time I don't use a deadbolt he'll KNOW and take off, so we just are meticulous. It is hairy when we travel, but I have put a chair against the hotel door with stuff on it that would make noise when it was moved. Our pediatrician gave us some good advice. He said kids who are " runners " or escape artists are seeking an adrenaline rush, and that is the motivating factor. He also said that when there is a significant, successful escape, a study that followed some of these kids/situations discovered that there is a high percentage of kids who will attempt another try within six weeks of the first. (I learned this after Pete took my key and let himself out while I was on the phone with the Dr's office for something else- found the door open with my key in it. I also NEVER leave my key off of my person now. It was the only time I had to call 911 and Pete was found a few blocks away by a local patrol officer. Pete was sweating and scared but also laughing his hysterical laugh at the same time.) We have taken significant measures to keep things locked up and know where our keys are and know exactly where Pete is at all times. Um, some days a trip to the bathroom could be risky if I was the only one home with him. That's not been an issue in a while, but I could never take a shower with him home alone unless he was sleeping. If you go to the Disability Solutions here: http://www.disabilitycompass.org/publications/back-issues-of-disability-solu tions/volume-four (you might have to cut an paste this) you can download the the third issue of Vol. 4 and get an excellent overview of this behavior. IMO, the most hair-raising escape story of all time on this list goes to Donna's Maddie, who took off one afternoon and was found in the middle of a busy Philly intersection during rush hour traffic. Some women had parked their cars in such a way as to cut off traffic until the police and Donna could get their. Several kids, including Maddie, have climbed out onto roofs, too. I too think we have a lot of guardian angels working overtime. Beth 20 y/o Pete's Mum > > > Subject: Scary... > To: " <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> " < <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> > > Date: Sunday, July 3, 2011, 12:55 PM > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > > > Hi, all, > > > > We're on our way home from a very busy vacation in Maine. was our alarm clock every morning (emphasis on " alarm " ) but seemed to enjoy hiking this year. . We found a lot of hikes that involved climbing over boulders and cliffs, which made him very happy. . > > > > On our last morning in our motel, we were having breakfast. and were bickering, DH was joining in at times. We suddenly noticed that we weren't hearing , who'd been happily playing with his Tuck and Ming-Ming mini-figures (Wonderpets) just a moment before. DH assumed he was in the bathroom but I ran to check the window. Sure enough, he'd gotten it open, kicked out the screen, and was GONE. My heart in my throat, I looked at the swingset...he was swinging and laughing! The motel has a pool too, and is on a busy road, so I was terrified. > > > > So, when you have an escape artist (he did all of this while in the same room as his parents, two brothers, a sister, and a dog!), how do you teach them not to escape?? Will this get better when he can use his talker??? > > > > The worst part is, he was so proud of himself afterwards. He kept walking to the window and laughing!!! > > > > Sigh. > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 Yes, Logan, too is what we call " stealthy. " He actually comes walking down the hall if he hears an outside door close without the lock being thrown. Scary..... Scary... > > To: " " < > > > Date: Sunday, July 3, 2011, 12:55 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, all, > > > > > > > > We're on our way home from a very busy vacation in Maine. was our alarm clock every morning (emphasis on " alarm " ) but seemed to enjoy hiking this year. . We found a lot of hikes that involved climbing over boulders and cliffs, which made him very happy. . > > > > > > > > On our last morning in our motel, we were having breakfast. and were bickering, DH was joining in at times. We suddenly noticed that we weren't hearing , who'd been happily playing with his Tuck and Ming-Ming mini-figures (Wonderpets) just a moment before. DH assumed he was in the bathroom but I ran to check the window. Sure enough, he'd gotten it open, kicked out the screen, and was GONE. My heart in my throat, I looked at the swingset...he was swinging and laughing! The motel has a pool too, and is on a busy road, so I was terrified. > > > > > > > > So, when you have an escape artist (he did all of this while in the same room as his parents, two brothers, a sister, and a dog!), how do you teach them not to escape?? Will this get better when he can use his talker??? > > > > > > > > The worst part is, he was so proud of himself afterwards. He kept walking to the window and laughing!!! > > > > > > > > Sigh. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 Elie - as far as I know- has never RUN - he left - we just didn't know it. We have worked for several years on not going out a door without telling someone - face to face- that he wants to go outside. Seems to finally have caught that idea. HE now goes out and sits on his porch - and doesn't leave to go wandering. > ** > > > > We had never had an escape problem although we did get door alarms just in > case.....but lately Wesley will go out of the back door and go sit in his > car seat...at least he does not run away but still who knows what idea will > getinto his head so we are on high alert here... > Anne > > > To: > From: pastmidvale@... > Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 21:36:10 -0400 > Subject: Re: Re: Scary... > > Elie escaped Before LOCK DOWN (BLD) and was found several acres away on a > > country road, doing his flopped and dying roach act. He was circled by our > > country neighbors in pick up trucks. I found him because they kept honking > > their horns. As soon as he saw me he got right up and walked home like > > nothing happened. > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, we also live with every door deadbolted. Pete had run off different > > > times over the years, but hasn't for quite some time. I do believe he's > > > grown out of it, but so help me, I do believe the first time I don't use > a > > > deadbolt he'll KNOW and take off, so we just are meticulous. It is hairy > > > when we travel, but I have put a chair against the hotel door with stuff > on > > > it that would make noise when it was moved. > > > > > > Our pediatrician gave us some good advice. He said kids who are " runners " > > > o > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 Might be a silly question, but, is the car seat actually in the car when he goes to sit in it? I am asking because once my son got out of the yard and got into the trunk of the car and slammed it shut. It was a steaming hot day and we wouldn't have found him quickly except that my neighbour had seen him go in. Brings back scary memories for me. Just my 2 cents worth. Judi To: From: tabuhli@... Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 08:39:24 -0400 Subject: RE: Re: Scary... We had never had an escape problem although we did get door alarms just in case.....but lately Wesley will go out of the back door and go sit in his car seat...at least he does not run away but still who knows what idea will getinto his head so we are on high alert here... Anne To: From: pastmidvale@... Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 21:36:10 -0400 Subject: Re: Re: Scary... Elie escaped Before LOCK DOWN (BLD) and was found several acres away on a country road, doing his flopped and dying roach act. He was circled by our country neighbors in pick up trucks. I found him because they kept honking their horns. As soon as he saw me he got right up and walked home like nothing happened. > ** > > > > > Yes, we also live with every door deadbolted. Pete had run off different > times over the years, but hasn't for quite some time. I do believe he's > grown out of it, but so help me, I do believe the first time I don't use a > deadbolt he'll KNOW and take off, so we just are meticulous. It is hairy > when we travel, but I have put a chair against the hotel door with stuff on > it that would make noise when it was moved. > > Our pediatrician gave us some good advice. He said kids who are " runners " > o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 I too remember when nathan was a little houdini, several scary events at home, school and even walmart, with all family and extended family in attendance no doubt. A vailbed helped at home for around 10years, nathan outgrew wanting to sleep in it, plus making sure our local police dept and neighbors know of nathan. School he got a 1/1 aid at all times. And thankfully walmart employees helped we found him walking through the parking lot, guess it was time to go. is almost 20 and hasn't wandered off for seveal years now, we taught him to ask to go outside and same kind of things many of you do, he even carries a cell phone we can track him with if needed, I've done test tracking and it gets pretty close majority of time. a >Yes, at almost 18, her climbing out windows and trying to escape hasn't diminished. I think it's just inherent to her nature. She does it at Melmark too, so it's not like it's just an " at home " behavior. There are definitely guardian angels, and in our case, they have come in human form....such as the women who turned their cars in such a way to stop traffic. And then the cab driver who stopped his car in the lane beside me when Maddie climbed out the car window while I was driving. The thing about Maddie is she sits still and calm, looking for all the world like a peaceful quiet kid just enjoying the moment, and at the least expected moment, she is speed lightening doing something scary. I know all about those risky bathroom trips too MB....no doubt many of us do. >Hugs to all of us!!!!! >Donna > > > > >> >> >> Yes, we also live with every door deadbolted. Pete had run off different times over the years, but hasn't for quite some time. I do believe he's grown out of it, but so help me, I do believe the first time I don't use a deadbolt he'll KNOW and take off, so we just are meticulous. It is hairy when we travel, but I have put a chair against the hotel door with stuff on it that would make noise when it was moved. >> >> Our pediatrician gave us some good advice. He said kids who are " runners " or escape artists are seeking an adrenaline rush, and that is the motivating factor. He also said that when there is a significant, successful escape, a study that followed some of these kids/situations discovered that there is a high percentage of kids who will attempt another try within six weeks of the first. (I learned this after Pete took my key and let himself out while I was on the phone with the Dr's office for something else- found the door open with my key in it. I also NEVER leave my key off of my person now. It was the only time I had to call 911 and Pete was found a few blocks away by a local patrol officer. Pete was sweating and scared but also laughing his hysterical laugh at the same time.) We have taken significant measures to keep things locked up and know where our keys are and know exactly where Pete is at all times. Um, some days a trip to the bathroom could be risky if I was the only one home with him. That's not been an issue in a while, but I could never take a shower with him home alone unless he was sleeping. >> >> If you go to the Disability Solutions here: >> http://www.disabilitycompass.org/publications/back-issues-of-disability-solution\ s/volume-four >> >> (you might have to cut an paste this) you can download the the third issue of Vol. 4 and get an excellent overview of this behavior. >> >> IMO, the most hair-raising escape story of all time on this list goes to Donna's Maddie, who took off one afternoon and was found in the middle of a busy Philly intersection during rush hour traffic. Some women had parked their cars in such a way as to cut off traffic until the police and Donna could get their. >> >> Several kids, including Maddie, have climbed out onto roofs, too. >> >> I too think we have a lot of guardian angels working overtime. >> >> Beth >> 20 y/o Pete's Mum >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > Subject: Scary... >> > To: " " < > >> > Date: Sunday, July 3, 2011, 12:55 PM >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Â >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Hi, all, >> > >> > >> > >> > We're on our way home from a very busy vacation in Maine. was our alarm clock every morning (emphasis on " alarm " ) but seemed to enjoy hiking this year. . We found a lot of hikes that involved climbing over boulders and cliffs, which made him very happy. . >> > >> > >> > >> > On our last morning in our motel, we were having breakfast. and were bickering, DH was joining in at times. We suddenly noticed that we weren't hearing , who'd been happily playing with his Tuck and Ming-Ming mini-figures (Wonderpets) just a moment before. DH assumed he was in the bathroom but I ran to check the window. Sure enough, he'd gotten it open, kicked out the screen, and was GONE. My heart in my throat, I looked at the swingset...he was swinging and laughing! The motel has a pool too, and is on a busy road, so I was terrified. >> > >> > >> > >> > So, when you have an escape artist (he did all of this while in the same room as his parents, two brothers, a sister, and a dog!), how do you teach them not to escape?? Will this get better when he can use his talker??? >> > >> > >> > >> > The worst part is, he was so proud of himself afterwards. He kept walking to the window and laughing!!! >> > >> > >> > >> > Sigh. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Sent from my iPhone >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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