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In a message dated 1/29/01 10:39:52 AM Eastern Standard Time,

mashawnag@... writes:

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I was just wondering what is PICA?

Isnt when a person craves things such as dirt and

metal, etc, usual things that are not usually eaten

inour diet. I know pregnant women oftne are ones that

get it, and have found many on this list who's kids

have it too, I dont know how common it is in kids,

nathan puts things in his mouth but doesnt eat them,

usually spits them out when I tell him too. He likes

coins especially, but also legos, marbles, superballs,

and other small things he can put in his mouth, but

not hard candy, chokes on that, go figure, and

ofcourse he will eat playdoe if not very closely

supervised, lol, but who's kids dont eat playdoe at

one time or another? shawna.

>>

a,

Here's the definition from my Taber's Medical dictionary. Pica: an

eating disorder manifested by a craving to ingest any material not fit fo

rfood, including starch, clary, ashes, toy balloons, crayons, cotton, grass,

cigarette butts, SOAP, twigs, wood, paper, metal or plaster.

Note that I wrote soap in all caps.....that's Maddie's latest obsession. And

Taber's does mention that pg women get this. But it's also more common in

those with autism. If your child just mouths, it wouldn't constitute pica.

Maddie (and Seth) eat these things and swallow them. Maddie eats all of the

above, and much more......if we let her that is!!!! We've now added

candles to her list of obsessions.

Donna

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In a message dated 1/29/01 1:47:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, duffey48@...

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<< Here's the definition from my Taber's Medical dictionary. Pica: an

eating disorder manifested by a craving to ingest any material not fit fo

rfood, including starch, clary, ashes, toy balloons, crayons, cotton, grass,

cigarette butts, SOAP, twigs, wood, paper, metal or plaster.

Note that I wrote soap in all caps.....that's Maddie's latest obsession.

And

Taber's does mention that pg women get this. But it's also more common in

those with autism. If your child just mouths, it wouldn't constitute pica.

Maddie (and Seth) eat these things and swallow them. Maddie eats all of the

above, and much more......if we let her that is!!!! We've now added

candles to her list of obsessions.

Donna >>

GADS Donna!!!! They didn't list FECES ?????!!!! LOL And a few of Seth's

favorites.....pebbles, sand, and chalk. LOL I don't know about Maddie,

but I *KNOW* Seth can smell these things that he eats, and can find them

where ever they are.

Gail

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> but I *KNOW* Seth can smell these things that he

> eats, and can find them

> where ever they are.

a little hound in there huh?lol shawna.

--- smilinggail@... wrote:

> In a message dated 1/29/01 1:47:30 PM Eastern

> Standard Time, duffey48@...

> writes:

>

> << Here's the definition from my Taber's Medical

> dictionary. Pica: an

> eating disorder manifested by a craving to ingest

> any material not fit fo

> rfood, including starch, clary, ashes, toy

> balloons, crayons, cotton, grass,

> cigarette butts, SOAP, twigs, wood, paper, metal or

> plaster.

> Note that I wrote soap in all caps.....that's

> Maddie's latest obsession.

> And

> Taber's does mention that pg women get this. But

> it's also more common in

> those with autism. If your child just mouths, it

> wouldn't constitute pica.

> Maddie (and Seth) eat these things and swallow

> them. Maddie eats all of the

> above, and much more......if we let her that is!!!!

> We've now added

> candles to her list of obsessions.

> Donna >>

> GADS Donna!!!! They didn't list FECES ?????!!!!

> LOL And a few of Seth's

> favorites.....pebbles, sand, and chalk. LOL I

> don't know about Maddie,

> Gail

>

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, Hi I am not sure what the inititals stand for ...but I do know that

people who have pica eat non-edible objects...paperclips, sheets, string,

napkins, coffee stirrers, etc...I will check my records and try to get you

some information on PICA...I work with two individuals who are diagnosed with

PICA disorder and that is their main diagnoses. I will get back to you...but

probably not until tomorrow some time.. there is some information on the web

about PICA that I printed out...I will get the address to you...Mental Health

Net has some information. I will write more later.

Joanne

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If you are speaking of the eating of non-edibles, it is pica (not caps) and

is a word - may be suggestive of low Iron levels. Of course that doesn't

count in the psychotic ( and I would add the autistic as well).

I just had a child with severe pica moved from my house. I couldn't keep her

fom eating all the things she found to eat - plastic, african violets, sand

from the bottonm of the fish tank, etc. She did not have an iron deficiancy

but was autistic like and probably psychotic if one can be with an IQ of

about 20.

Sara

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In a message dated 2/1/01 7:09:21 AM Eastern Standard Time,

pastmidvale@... writes:

<< If you are speaking of the eating of non-edibles, it is pica (not caps)

and

is a word - may be suggestive of low Iron levels. Of course that doesn't

count in the psychotic ( and I would add the autistic as well).

I just had a child with severe pica moved from my house. I couldn't keep her

fom eating all the things she found to eat - plastic, african violets, sand

from the bottonm of the fish tank, etc. She did not have an iron deficiancy

but was autistic like and probably psychotic if one can be with an IQ of

about 20. >>

Yes Sara. I knew it wasn't an acronym, but thought maybe it was a shortened

word for something. Thanks.

The pica is one of the worst behaviors Maddie has. Living with 5 kids makes

it very difficult to watch over her. She loves hanging in the tv room and

her bedroom, but I have to make sure it's clear of things she'll eat. The

very second she comes in the door, she heads to the living room (candle

searching) and then the bathroom (soap hunting). I have one candle in the

living room and one in the dining room that I love, but when Maddie's home,

they go on top of the mantle. And it's funny, but there's a giant Winnie

the Pooh case in her bedroom full of crayons, markers and arts and crafts

stuff. But she doesn't know how to open it. In one sense, I'm glad her

fine motor skills aren't up to snuff.........sounds evil, but it keeps her

from doing things like that and from being able to open doors. HOwever, her

gross motor skills are TOO GOOD and that's why we're gated up everywhere!!

And why we had to get central air in our house-----she can reach the top of

the windows now, so even in the summer,they have to stay closed.

Donna

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In a message dated 2/2/01 11:20:47 AM Eastern Standard Time, duffey48@...

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very second she comes in the door, she heads to the living room (candle

searching) and then the bathroom (soap hunting). I have one candle in the

living room and one in the dining room that I love, but when Maddie's home,

they go on top of the mantle. >>

LOL Donna!!!!!! Sounds like our house!!!!!!! Seth chewed the cable cord off

today. Good thing we don't have cable anymore! He chewed it right off and

then handed it to me! LOL What a kid! Now he discovered the window sills.

Ohhhhhhhh how on earth to I keep him from eating them??????? This kid is

literaly eating us out of house and home. I find the pica harder than the

downs and autism put together.

Gail

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Donna,

I don't know that their were two types of pica. okay now I understand that

their are two different types of pica.

The first type of pica, has to do with low iron level, right? And how is

it not edible, if its suggested for low iron levels?

How do you tell if a child has (or is on) pica?

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In a message dated 2/4/01 10:57:32 PM Eastern Standard Time,

brink_00@... writes:

<< Donna,

I don't know that their were two types of pica. okay now I understand that

their are two different types of pica.

The first type of pica, has to do with low iron level, right? And how is

it not edible, if its suggested for low iron levels?

How do you tell if a child has (or is on) pica? >>

,

No, there are not two different kinds of pica. Only one, but one of the

reasons someone may develop pica is a low iron level. It is also seen a lot

in individuals with autism. A child with pica will crave to ingest

inappropriate things. For instance, while Maddie will eat many things she

shouldn't, she is obsessed with soap and candles. Searches the house for

them. Just today (Kept her home from school today since snow was

predicted-----Yep, we are getting it) I took her to Allie's school to do

lunch duty (they ended up closing her school so she's home now too) and

Maddie sat in the back of the classroom. She managed to find a little play

dough on the floor that I had to sift out of her mouth before she swallowed

it. It's really the worst to deal with.

Donna

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Donna,

Okay their two types of pica, I got that I think. So thanks for

explaining it also.,

>

>,

> No, there are not two different kinds of pica. Only one, but one of

>the

>reasons someone may develop pica is a low iron level. It is also seen a

>lot

>in individuals with autism. A child with pica will crave to ingest

>inappropriate things. For instance, while Maddie will eat many things she

>shouldn't, she is obsessed with soap and candles. Searches the house for

>them. Just today (Kept her home from school today since snow was

>predicted-----Yep, we are getting it) I took her to Allie's school to do

>lunch duty (they ended up closing her school so she's home now too) and

>Maddie sat in the back of the classroom. She managed to find a little

>play

>dough on the floor that I had to sift out of her mouth before she swallowed

>it. It's really the worst to deal with.

>Donna

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