Guest guest Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 So happy you have a communication method for . To bigger and better success. > > > Hi, > > We had an AT meeting yesterday for . He's doing amazingly well with > the Springboard, so well that the AT person is NOT going to recommend it for > him. She tested him on the Vanguard and says that he is " extremely ready " > for it, and that it will suit him better long-term. > > She reports that with the talker, he's putting together 5-6-word sentences, > and saying things like " done eat cookie, let's play now " . His teacher is > amazed and I think everyone (including us!) is feeling that has been > seriously under-estimated up til now. His behaviors have dramatically > decreased at school (and increased at home, where he has no talker). The AT > person said that is exceptionally motivated to learn to use the > device, and shows great attention during their sessions (and zero negative > behaviors). He's putting his powers of imitation to great use, and retains > what they're teaching him. > > We filled out the paperwork for the Vantage yesterday. Man, it must really > stink to not be able to communicate at all. I can't wait for him to bring > that (lime green) thing home! > > Tomorrow's his IEP meeting. I want him to be retained in Kindergarten next > year, since academically he's nowhere near K level. It's kinda silly because > his classroom goes from k-2, but I can't see how it's helping him to call > tracing lines and being able to sequence the letters in his name true > kindergarten skills. He would be truly lost in a typical class! > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > -- Sara- different pathways lead to Nirvana. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 I hope you gets to bring home the Vantage! Will you get to use it through the summer? I think it is so good for the kid (and the family!) when a communication system that works is found. Isaac is a year older than his classmates because he was not allowed to start school at 5 - since he was a child with a cognitive disability. Different state and yes, an illegal practice. Tony was not retained and I've always wondered if it would have helped him. So at 14, I wish Isaac was in 8th grade and not 7th in part because he is very tall. I wish Tony was still in 5th grade (and when we pass the elementary school every morning Tony yells, " I want this school! " ) but he was never retained and he is short. He could have blended better than Isaac. It is another one of those difficult dilemmas where the answer is different for each. Counting down the days until the end of the school year. Lori Mom to Isaac 14 and Tony 12 I _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Sara Cohen Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 2:16 PM To: Subject: Re: Update on and the Springboard So happy you have a communication method for . To bigger and better success. On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Cookson <macookson@... <mailto:macookson%40yahoo.com> > wrote: > > > Hi, > > We had an AT meeting yesterday for . He's doing amazingly well with > the Springboard, so well that the AT person is NOT going to recommend it for > him. She tested him on the Vanguard and says that he is " extremely ready " > for it, and that it will suit him better long-term. > > She reports that with the talker, he's putting together 5-6-word sentences, > and saying things like " done eat cookie, let's play now " . His teacher is > amazed and I think everyone (including us!) is feeling that has been > seriously under-estimated up til now. His behaviors have dramatically > decreased at school (and increased at home, where he has no talker). The AT > person said that is exceptionally motivated to learn to use the > device, and shows great attention during their sessions (and zero negative > behaviors). He's putting his powers of imitation to great use, and retains > what they're teaching him. > > We filled out the paperwork for the Vantage yesterday. Man, it must really > stink to not be able to communicate at all. I can't wait for him to bring > that (lime green) thing home! > > Tomorrow's his IEP meeting. I want him to be retained in Kindergarten next > year, since academically he's nowhere near K level. It's kinda silly because > his classroom goes from k-2, but I can't see how it's helping him to call > tracing lines and being able to sequence the letters in his name true > kindergarten skills. He would be truly lost in a typical class! > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > -- Sara- different pathways lead to Nirvana. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 Elie spent 2 years in K, 2 years in 1st. IT worked for us. A lot depends on the teacher who is in the room. > > > I hope you gets to bring home the Vantage! Will you get to use it through > the summer? > > I think it is so good for the kid (and the family!) when a communication > system that works is found. > > Isaac is a year older than his classmates because he was not allowed to > start school at 5 - since he was a child with a cognitive disability. > Different state and yes, an illegal practice. Tony was not retained and > I've always wondered if it would have helped him. So at 14, I wish Isaac > was in 8th grade and not 7th in part because he is very tall. I wish Tony > was still in 5th grade (and when we pass the elementary school every > morning > Tony yells, " I want this school! " ) but he was never retained and he is > short. He could have blended better than Isaac. It is another one of those > difficult dilemmas where the answer is different for each. > > Counting down the days until the end of the school year. > > Lori > > Mom to Isaac 14 and Tony 12 > > I > > _____ > > From: [mailto: ] On > Behalf > Of Sara Cohen > Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 2:16 PM > To: > Subject: Re: Update on and the Springboard > > > So happy you have a communication method for . To bigger and better > success. > > On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Cookson <macookson@... > <mailto:macookson%40yahoo.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > We had an AT meeting yesterday for . He's doing amazingly well with > > the Springboard, so well that the AT person is NOT going to recommend it > for > > him. She tested him on the Vanguard and says that he is " extremely ready " > > for it, and that it will suit him better long-term. > > > > She reports that with the talker, he's putting together 5-6-word > sentences, > > and saying things like " done eat cookie, let's play now " . His teacher is > > amazed and I think everyone (including us!) is feeling that has > been > > seriously under-estimated up til now. His behaviors have dramatically > > decreased at school (and increased at home, where he has no talker). The > AT > > person said that is exceptionally motivated to learn to use the > > device, and shows great attention during their sessions (and zero > negative > > behaviors). He's putting his powers of imitation to great use, and > retains > > what they're teaching him. > > > > We filled out the paperwork for the Vantage yesterday. Man, it must > really > > stink to not be able to communicate at all. I can't wait for him to bring > > that (lime green) thing home! > > > > Tomorrow's his IEP meeting. I want him to be retained in Kindergarten > next > > year, since academically he's nowhere near K level. It's kinda silly > because > > his classroom goes from k-2, but I can't see how it's helping him to call > > tracing lines and being able to sequence the letters in his name true > > kindergarten skills. He would be truly lost in a typical class! > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > -- > Sara- different pathways lead to Nirvana. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 , that is great news about the Vantage! Â After Drew was tested on the Springboard & Vantage, they decided he was capable of the Vantage....but he was in 2nd grade at the time. Â 's success can be attributed to his young age, and the eagerness he has to learn. I fully understand your wanting to hold him back as I did the same for Drew at kindergarten & then again in 4th grade, due to our move & the school being new to him. Â I wish you & continued success & look forward to hearing updates! Gerry - Mom to Drew, 13 (Ds-ASD)Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 Gerry, thank you so much! I remember that Drew did very well with his Vantage!!! We are very blessed that last year's teacher pushed so hard for to get a talker. She knows 's brother, and I think that influenced her to see his potential? Or maybe she's just that kind of teacher, I dunno. So it took over a year, but TBH he was nowhere near ready for the Vantage last year! I'm hoping for wonderful things!!! Sent from my iPhone > , that is great news about the Vantage! After Drew was tested on the Springboard & Vantage, they decided he was capable of the Vantage....but he was in 2nd grade at the time. 's success can be attributed to his young age, and the eagerness he has to learn. I fully understand your wanting to hold him back as I did the same for Drew at kindergarten & then again in 4th grade, due to our move & the school being new to him. I wish you & continued success & look forward to hearing updates! > > Gerry - Mom to Drew, 13 (Ds-ASD) > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 I just worry that he'll just keep falling farther and farther behind what is typical. I also feel that it's wrong to promote him to first grade when he doesn't have the skills of a typical kid entering kindergarten. What kind of precedent does that set?? We'll just promote him anyway, whether he learns or not?? Seems wrong. He's also very short for a 6-year-old. My baby girl is turning 5 next month, is in the 50th % for height, and she's taller than he is. They weigh the same (despite eating twice as much, easily!). Sent from my iPhone > Elie spent 2 years in K, 2 years in 1st. IT worked for us. A lot depends > on the teacher who is in the room. > > > > > > > > > I hope you gets to bring home the Vantage! Will you get to use it through > > the summer? > > > > I think it is so good for the kid (and the family!) when a communication > > system that works is found. > > > > Isaac is a year older than his classmates because he was not allowed to > > start school at 5 - since he was a child with a cognitive disability. > > Different state and yes, an illegal practice. Tony was not retained and > > I've always wondered if it would have helped him. So at 14, I wish Isaac > > was in 8th grade and not 7th in part because he is very tall. I wish Tony > > was still in 5th grade (and when we pass the elementary school every > > morning > > Tony yells, " I want this school! " ) but he was never retained and he is > > short. He could have blended better than Isaac. It is another one of those > > difficult dilemmas where the answer is different for each. > > > > Counting down the days until the end of the school year. > > > > Lori > > > > Mom to Isaac 14 and Tony 12 > > > > I > > > > _____ > > > > From: [mailto: ] On > > Behalf > > Of Sara Cohen > > Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 2:16 PM > > To: > > Subject: Re: Update on and the Springboard > > > > > > So happy you have a communication method for . To bigger and better > > success. > > > > On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Cookson <macookson@... > > <mailto:macookson%40yahoo.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > We had an AT meeting yesterday for . He's doing amazingly well with > > > the Springboard, so well that the AT person is NOT going to recommend it > > for > > > him. She tested him on the Vanguard and says that he is " extremely ready " > > > for it, and that it will suit him better long-term. > > > > > > She reports that with the talker, he's putting together 5-6-word > > sentences, > > > and saying things like " done eat cookie, let's play now " . His teacher is > > > amazed and I think everyone (including us!) is feeling that has > > been > > > seriously under-estimated up til now. His behaviors have dramatically > > > decreased at school (and increased at home, where he has no talker). The > > AT > > > person said that is exceptionally motivated to learn to use the > > > device, and shows great attention during their sessions (and zero > > negative > > > behaviors). He's putting his powers of imitation to great use, and > > retains > > > what they're teaching him. > > > > > > We filled out the paperwork for the Vantage yesterday. Man, it must > > really > > > stink to not be able to communicate at all. I can't wait for him to bring > > > that (lime green) thing home! > > > > > > Tomorrow's his IEP meeting. I want him to be retained in Kindergarten > > next > > > year, since academically he's nowhere near K level. It's kinda silly > > because > > > his classroom goes from k-2, but I can't see how it's helping him to call > > > tracing lines and being able to sequence the letters in his name true > > > kindergarten skills. He would be truly lost in a typical class! > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Sara- different pathways lead to Nirvana. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 We still have a month left, Lori. When do your boys get done??? I've so BTDT, waiting for the school year to out us out of our misery (, usually). Thankfully, not this year, but I remember how awful that was! Sent from my iPhone > I hope you gets to bring home the Vantage! Will you get to use it through > the summer? > > I think it is so good for the kid (and the family!) when a communication > system that works is found. > > Isaac is a year older than his classmates because he was not allowed to > start school at 5 - since he was a child with a cognitive disability. > Different state and yes, an illegal practice. Tony was not retained and > I've always wondered if it would have helped him. So at 14, I wish Isaac > was in 8th grade and not 7th in part because he is very tall. I wish Tony > was still in 5th grade (and when we pass the elementary school every morning > Tony yells, " I want this school! " ) but he was never retained and he is > short. He could have blended better than Isaac. It is another one of those > difficult dilemmas where the answer is different for each. > > Counting down the days until the end of the school year. > > Lori > > Mom to Isaac 14 and Tony 12 > > I > > _____ > > From: [mailto: ] On Behalf > Of Sara Cohen > Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 2:16 PM > To: > Subject: Re: Update on and the Springboard > > So happy you have a communication method for . To bigger and better > success. > > On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Cookson <macookson@... > <mailto:macookson%40yahoo.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > We had an AT meeting yesterday for . He's doing amazingly well with > > the Springboard, so well that the AT person is NOT going to recommend it > for > > him. She tested him on the Vanguard and says that he is " extremely ready " > > for it, and that it will suit him better long-term. > > > > She reports that with the talker, he's putting together 5-6-word > sentences, > > and saying things like " done eat cookie, let's play now " . His teacher is > > amazed and I think everyone (including us!) is feeling that has > been > > seriously under-estimated up til now. His behaviors have dramatically > > decreased at school (and increased at home, where he has no talker). The > AT > > person said that is exceptionally motivated to learn to use the > > device, and shows great attention during their sessions (and zero negative > > behaviors). He's putting his powers of imitation to great use, and retains > > what they're teaching him. > > > > We filled out the paperwork for the Vantage yesterday. Man, it must really > > stink to not be able to communicate at all. I can't wait for him to bring > > that (lime green) thing home! > > > > Tomorrow's his IEP meeting. I want him to be retained in Kindergarten next > > year, since academically he's nowhere near K level. It's kinda silly > because > > his classroom goes from k-2, but I can't see how it's helping him to call > > tracing lines and being able to sequence the letters in his name true > > kindergarten skills. He would be truly lost in a typical class! > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > -- > Sara- different pathways lead to Nirvana. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 Many of our kids do fall behind. BUT if he is promoted without the skills - he still will fail. It is easier to keep a child behind grade wise in K-3 than after that. And remember that our kids go to school until 21. Elie spent 4 years doing 6,7,8, as well. many schools use the 2 year plus or minus as a guideline. > > > I just worry that he'll just keep falling farther and farther behind what > is typical. I also feel that it's wrong to promote him to first grade when > he doesn't have the skills of a typical kid entering kindergarten. What kind > of precedent does that set?? We'll just promote him anyway, whether he > learns or not?? Seems wrong. > > He's also very short for a 6-year-old. My baby girl is turning 5 next > month, is in the 50th % for height, and she's taller than he is. They weigh > the same (despite eating twice as much, easily!). > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > Elie spent 2 years in K, 2 years in 1st. IT worked for us. A lot depends > > on the teacher who is in the room. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope you gets to bring home the Vantage! Will you get to use it > through > > > the summer? > > > > > > I think it is so good for the kid (and the family!) when a > communication > > > system that works is found. > > > > > > Isaac is a year older than his classmates because he was not allowed to > > > start school at 5 - since he was a child with a cognitive disability. > > > Different state and yes, an illegal practice. Tony was not retained and > > > I've always wondered if it would have helped him. So at 14, I wish > Isaac > > > was in 8th grade and not 7th in part because he is very tall. I wish > Tony > > > was still in 5th grade (and when we pass the elementary school every > > > morning > > > Tony yells, " I want this school! " ) but he was never retained and he is > > > short. He could have blended better than Isaac. It is another one of > those > > > difficult dilemmas where the answer is different for each. > > > > > > Counting down the days until the end of the school year. > > > > > > Lori > > > > > > Mom to Isaac 14 and Tony 12 > > > > > > I > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > From: [mailto: ] On > > > Behalf > > > Of Sara Cohen > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 2:16 PM > > > To: > > > Subject: Re: Update on and the Springboard > > > > > > > > > So happy you have a communication method for . To bigger and > better > > > success. > > > > > > On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Cookson <macookson@... > > > <mailto:macookson%40yahoo.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > We had an AT meeting yesterday for . He's doing amazingly well > with > > > > the Springboard, so well that the AT person is NOT going to recommend > it > > > for > > > > him. She tested him on the Vanguard and says that he is " extremely > ready " > > > > for it, and that it will suit him better long-term. > > > > > > > > She reports that with the talker, he's putting together 5-6-word > > > sentences, > > > > and saying things like " done eat cookie, let's play now " . His teacher > is > > > > amazed and I think everyone (including us!) is feeling that > has > > > been > > > > seriously under-estimated up til now. His behaviors have dramatically > > > > decreased at school (and increased at home, where he has no talker). > The > > > AT > > > > person said that is exceptionally motivated to learn to use > the > > > > device, and shows great attention during their sessions (and zero > > > negative > > > > behaviors). He's putting his powers of imitation to great use, and > > > retains > > > > what they're teaching him. > > > > > > > > We filled out the paperwork for the Vantage yesterday. Man, it must > > > really > > > > stink to not be able to communicate at all. I can't wait for him to > bring > > > > that (lime green) thing home! > > > > > > > > Tomorrow's his IEP meeting. I want him to be retained in Kindergarten > > > next > > > > year, since academically he's nowhere near K level. It's kinda silly > > > because > > > > his classroom goes from k-2, but I can't see how it's helping him to > call > > > > tracing lines and being able to sequence the letters in his name true > > > > kindergarten skills. He would be truly lost in a typical class! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Sara- different pathways lead to Nirvana. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 Isn't it amazing when communication clicks? Darwyn (7 DS ASD) is known throughout the School District as the " king of Pecs " and the school ST always brings trainees down to watch him (of course she was anti-pecs at the beginning but is now on board). He can communicate so much more than I ever imagined (or the school imagined either). I planned to keep Darwyn back in kindergarten, but changed my mind for 2 reasons: I wanted him to stay with the kids whose faces he knew (it takes him a long time to get used to new faces) and a few of the kids are friends with Darwyn. Also - I was given the tip that at this age, other activities are still available outside of school, but by age 18, school will be almost the only activity that's publicly available and having the extra year to repeat in high school might make more sense. Who knows where Dar will be by that age, but he did transition to grade one very easily (with a fulltime aide). Although I've never had any expectations that he'd keep up with a typical curriculum- his own academics is structured for him, he spells his name while the other kids do spelling, and counts to 10 while they do math - my guess is will do well either way if he's doing well now and gets the same supports (that's the key!). Best of luck and so happy to hear he's communicating more, Sent on the TELUS Mobility network with BlackBerry Update on and the Springboard Hi, We had an AT meeting yesterday for . He's doing amazingly well with the Springboard, so well that the AT person is NOT going to recommend it for him. She tested him on the Vanguard and says that he is " extremely ready " for it, and that it will suit him better long-term. She reports that with the talker, he's putting together 5-6-word sentences, and saying things like " done eat cookie, let's play now " . His teacher is amazed and I think everyone (including us!) is feeling that has been seriously under-estimated up til now. His behaviors have dramatically decreased at school (and increased at home, where he has no talker). The AT person said that is exceptionally motivated to learn to use the device, and shows great attention during their sessions (and zero negative behaviors). He's putting his powers of imitation to great use, and retains what they're teaching him. We filled out the paperwork for the Vantage yesterday. Man, it must really stink to not be able to communicate at all. I can't wait for him to bring that (lime green) thing home! Tomorrow's his IEP meeting. I want him to be retained in Kindergarten next year, since academically he's nowhere near K level. It's kinda silly because his classroom goes from k-2, but I can't see how it's helping him to call tracing lines and being able to sequence the letters in his name true kindergarten skills. He would be truly lost in a typical class! Sent from my iPhone ------------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------- Checkout our homepage for information, bookmarks, and photos of our kids. Share favorite bookmarks, ideas, and other information by including them. Don't forget, messages are a permanent record of the archives for our list. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ -------------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 , if was expected or on the same level as his typical peers then he would not have an IEP. If the situation existed for an IEP student to only be promoted if they were on grade level then thousands of students would remain in kindergarten and never move forward. 's progress is evidenced in the mastery of his IEP goals. There is pro and con to this subject. I think it's best to project where you want to achieve and have the highest expectations. He may or may not meet those expectations but settling for less is not in any child's best interest. I think back to those kindergarten years when I decided that nothing would stand in the way of achieving an education. I have not regretted setting those goals. I think many of the school staff have permanent eye damage from all those rolling eyeballs. In many areas he surpassed what I was told impossible and other areas remain a work in progress. I remain driven but truly am counting down the days until graduation. Charlyne Mom to Zeb 18 DS > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > We had an AT meeting yesterday for . He's doing amazingly well with > > > the Springboard, so well that the AT person is NOT going to recommend it > > for > > > him. She tested him on the Vanguard and says that he is " extremely ready " > > > for it, and that it will suit him better long-term. > > > > > > She reports that with the talker, he's putting together 5-6-word > > sentences, > > > and saying things like " done eat cookie, let's play now " . His teacher is > > > amazed and I think everyone (including us!) is feeling that has > > been > > > seriously under-estimated up til now. His behaviors have dramatically > > > decreased at school (and increased at home, where he has no talker). The > > AT > > > person said that is exceptionally motivated to learn to use the > > > device, and shows great attention during their sessions (and zero > > negative > > > behaviors). He's putting his powers of imitation to great use, and > > retains > > > what they're teaching him. > > > > > > We filled out the paperwork for the Vantage yesterday. Man, it must > > really > > > stink to not be able to communicate at all. I can't wait for him to bring > > > that (lime green) thing home! > > > > > > Tomorrow's his IEP meeting. I want him to be retained in Kindergarten > > next > > > year, since academically he's nowhere near K level. It's kinda silly > > because > > > his classroom goes from k-2, but I can't see how it's helping him to call > > > tracing lines and being able to sequence the letters in his name true > > > kindergarten skills. He would be truly lost in a typical class! > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Sara- different pathways lead to Nirvana. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 We are done June 10th but thankfully will be at the state Special Olympic tournament on the 9th and the 10th so we will miss some of the last day craziness. On the 9th the middle school goes to a water park for a field trip and Isaac is allergic to chlorine - cannot do all day in chlorinated water and has to have a shower when he is finished. He looks like he is completely independent but it's the little stuff like not talking to yourself while in a public shower, getting dressed when you are finished rather than sitting there contemplating life that he gets in trouble for. I'm glad isn't having as miserable as a time this year. Sure wish the same could be said for Isaac. He is really a fun kid, I get really angry when one teacher can redefine him as nothing but a problem. And in rereading my post I see that I had grammatical errors and YOU are the one using the Advantage. It was a good mistake in that I sure feel at times like I could use a communication device with the school since they seem to have trouble with every day English! Lori Mom to Isaac 14 and Tony 12 > > > We still have a month left, Lori. When do your boys get done??? > > I've so BTDT, waiting for the school year to out us out of our misery > (, usually). Thankfully, not this year, but I remember how awful that > was! > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > I hope you gets to bring home the Vantage! Will you get to use it through > > the summer? > > > > I think it is so good for the kid (and the family!) when a communication > > system that works is found. > > > > Isaac is a year older than his classmates because he was not allowed to > > start school at 5 - since he was a child with a cognitive disability. > > Different state and yes, an illegal practice. Tony was not retained and > > I've always wondered if it would have helped him. So at 14, I wish Isaac > > was in 8th grade and not 7th in part because he is very tall. I wish Tony > > was still in 5th grade (and when we pass the elementary school every > morning > > Tony yells, " I want this school! " ) but he was never retained and he is > > short. He could have blended better than Isaac. It is another one of > those > > difficult dilemmas where the answer is different for each. > > > > Counting down the days until the end of the school year. > > > > Lori > > > > Mom to Isaac 14 and Tony 12 > > > > I > > > > _____ > > > > From: [mailto: ] On > Behalf > > Of Sara Cohen > > Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 2:16 PM > > To: > > Subject: Re: Update on and the Springboard > > > > So happy you have a communication method for . To bigger and better > > success. > > > > On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Cookson <macookson@... > > <mailto:macookson%40yahoo.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > We had an AT meeting yesterday for . He's doing amazingly well > with > > > the Springboard, so well that the AT person is NOT going to recommend > it > > for > > > him. She tested him on the Vanguard and says that he is " extremely > ready " > > > for it, and that it will suit him better long-term. > > > > > > She reports that with the talker, he's putting together 5-6-word > > sentences, > > > and saying things like " done eat cookie, let's play now " . His teacher > is > > > amazed and I think everyone (including us!) is feeling that has > > been > > > seriously under-estimated up til now. His behaviors have dramatically > > > decreased at school (and increased at home, where he has no talker). > The > > AT > > > person said that is exceptionally motivated to learn to use the > > > device, and shows great attention during their sessions (and zero > negative > > > behaviors). He's putting his powers of imitation to great use, and > retains > > > what they're teaching him. > > > > > > We filled out the paperwork for the Vantage yesterday. Man, it must > really > > > stink to not be able to communicate at all. I can't wait for him to > bring > > > that (lime green) thing home! > > > > > > Tomorrow's his IEP meeting. I want him to be retained in Kindergarten > next > > > year, since academically he's nowhere near K level. It's kinda silly > > because > > > his classroom goes from k-2, but I can't see how it's helping him to > call > > > tracing lines and being able to sequence the letters in his name true > > > kindergarten skills. He would be truly lost in a typical class! > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Sara- different pathways lead to Nirvana. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 has the lime green Vantage. It's great. But I can't get to want to use it. He uses it well when prompted for single things, but won't seek it out and is not really trying to communicate with it. I just can't get him to WANT to communicate much. I am glad AT is working well for . Hope the Vantage is wonderful for you! Beth Update on and the Springboard Hi, We had an AT meeting yesterday for . He's doing amazingly well with the Springboard, so well that the AT person is NOT going to recommend it for him. She tested him on the Vanguard and says that he is " extremely ready " for it, and that it will suit him better long-term. She reports that with the talker, he's putting together 5-6-word sentences, and saying things like " done eat cookie, let's play now " . His teacher is amazed and I think everyone (including us!) is feeling that has been seriously under-estimated up til now. His behaviors have dramatically decreased at school (and increased at home, where he has no talker). The AT person said that is exceptionally motivated to learn to use the device, and shows great attention during their sessions (and zero negative behaviors). He's putting his powers of imitation to great use, and retains what they're teaching him. We filled out the paperwork for the Vantage yesterday. Man, it must really stink to not be able to communicate at all. I can't wait for him to bring that (lime green) thing home! Tomorrow's his IEP meeting. I want him to be retained in Kindergarten next year, since academically he's nowhere near K level. It's kinda silly because his classroom goes from k-2, but I can't see how it's helping him to call tracing lines and being able to sequence the letters in his name true kindergarten skills. He would be truly lost in a typical class! Sent from my iPhone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 I was told today that he's very motivated to use it for making specific requests. But not as motivated to use it to ask/answer questions or anything like that. Sent from my iPhone > has the lime green Vantage. It's great. But I can't get to want to use it. He uses it well when prompted for single things, but won't seek it out and is not really trying to communicate with it. I just can't get him to WANT to communicate much. > > I am glad AT is working well for . Hope the Vantage is wonderful for you! > > Beth > > Update on and the Springboard > > Hi, > > We had an AT meeting yesterday for . He's doing amazingly well with the Springboard, so well that the AT person is NOT going to recommend it for him. She tested him on the Vanguard and says that he is " extremely ready " for it, and that it will suit him better long-term. > > She reports that with the talker, he's putting together 5-6-word sentences, and saying things like " done eat cookie, let's play now " . His teacher is amazed and I think everyone (including us!) is feeling that has been seriously under-estimated up til now. His behaviors have dramatically decreased at school (and increased at home, where he has no talker). The AT person said that is exceptionally motivated to learn to use the device, and shows great attention during their sessions (and zero negative behaviors). He's putting his powers of imitation to great use, and retains what they're teaching him. > > We filled out the paperwork for the Vantage yesterday. Man, it must really stink to not be able to communicate at all. I can't wait for him to bring that (lime green) thing home! > > Tomorrow's his IEP meeting. I want him to be retained in Kindergarten next year, since academically he's nowhere near K level. It's kinda silly because his classroom goes from k-2, but I can't see how it's helping him to call tracing lines and being able to sequence the letters in his name true kindergarten skills. He would be truly lost in a typical class! > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 Beth - can you get someone with Vantage training to train - maybe thru school, or thru private funding? Maybe Vantage headquarters haas a list of trained people who are nearby (hopeful dream, but its possible). The catch with all AAC tools/computers/systems is that it really helps to have someone who's trained with that specific program/tool to start your kids in the right direction. For example - we started pecs with Darwyn all wrong with a speech therapist who just gave us pictures and a strip of velcro, but she had no PECs training and we had no training - and he just threw the pictures and we gave up. A year later his new interventionist (who had much less schooling, and more hands on experience than the ST who charged twice as much) had excellent PECs training and skills and she asked to try. I told her it wouldn't work, but if she wanted to try she could. Now he's fantastic with PECs. Really fantastic. So we got an iPad thinking he'd use it to communicate, and the programs are great, but we undisciplined tired parents let him play Talking Tom too much so now he thinks the iPAD is just for fun with a talking cat. We need an iPAD interventionist next! , Mom to (age 11) and Darwyn ( age 7 DS ASD and a few heart surgeries) , Canada Sent on the TELUS Mobility network with BlackBerry Re: Update on and the Springboard I was told today that he's very motivated to use it for making specific requests. But not as motivated to use it to ask/answer questions or anything like that. Sent from my iPhone > has the lime green Vantage. It's great. But I can't get to want to use it. He uses it well when prompted for single things, but won't seek it out and is not really trying to communicate with it. I just can't get him to WANT to communicate much. > > I am glad AT is working well for . Hope the Vantage is wonderful for you! > > Beth > > Update on and the Springboard > > Hi, > > We had an AT meeting yesterday for . He's doing amazingly well with the Springboard, so well that the AT person is NOT going to recommend it for him. She tested him on the Vanguard and says that he is " extremely ready " for it, and that it will suit him better long-term. > > She reports that with the talker, he's putting together 5-6-word sentences, and saying things like " done eat cookie, let's play now " . His teacher is amazed and I think everyone (including us!) is feeling that has been seriously under-estimated up til now. His behaviors have dramatically decreased at school (and increased at home, where he has no talker). The AT person said that is exceptionally motivated to learn to use the device, and shows great attention during their sessions (and zero negative behaviors). He's putting his powers of imitation to great use, and retains what they're teaching him. > > We filled out the paperwork for the Vantage yesterday. Man, it must really stink to not be able to communicate at all. I can't wait for him to bring that (lime green) thing home! > > Tomorrow's his IEP meeting. I want him to be retained in Kindergarten next year, since academically he's nowhere near K level. It's kinda silly because his classroom goes from k-2, but I can't see how it's helping him to call tracing lines and being able to sequence the letters in his name true kindergarten skills. He would be truly lost in a typical class! > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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