Guest guest Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 VERY IMPORTANT! Our school districts CANNOT by federal law (which supersedes state opinIons ) REFUSE to evaluate. While this is specific to GA DOE, it is true for all states where the schools are using RTI to sTALL. See the COPAA website: http://www.copaa.org/general/osep-rti-cannot-delaydeny-idea-eligibility-evaluati\ on/ The Office of Special Education Programs (OSEP) at USED issued a Memorandum to State Directors of Special Education on Jan. 21, 2011, regarding the use of a Response-to-Intervention process to delay-deny an evaluation for eligibility under IDEA. http://www.copaa.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/OSEP.RTI_.memo_.01-21-111.pdf This has been a huge problem in GA that we have been complaining about and notifying the GA DOE. NOW OSEP has finally clarified. Specifically in GA, parents/advocates need to watch for abuse through the SST (Student Support Team) process, sometimes now called RTI (Response to Intervention). If parents request an evaluation to identify a suspected disability, schools cannot put students in their SST/RTI Tier process for months first. This violates Child Find requirements as stated in the memorandum. They must evaluate. In the process of the evaluation, they can certainly do RTI. Help get the word out and educate our educators! -- Sara- different pathways lead to Nirvana. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2011 Report Share Posted January 29, 2011 This actually happened to us and I assume they did it because we homeschool. Did they specifically address homeschooled students in this new action? > > VERY IMPORTANT! Our school districts CANNOT by federal law (which > supersedes state opinIons ) REFUSE to evaluate. While this is specific to > GA DOE, it is true for all states where the schools are using RTI to sTALL. > > > > See the COPAA website: > > http://www.copaa.org/general/osep-rti-cannot-delaydeny-idea-eligibility-evaluati\ on/ > > > > The Office of Special Education Programs (OSEP) at USED issued a Memorandum > to State Directors of Special Education on Jan. 21, 2011, regarding the use > of a Response-to-Intervention process to delay-deny an evaluation for > eligibility under IDEA. > > http://www.copaa.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/OSEP.RTI_.memo_.01-21-111.pdf > > > > This has been a huge problem in GA that we have been complaining about and > notifying the GA DOE. NOW OSEP has finally clarified. Specifically in GA, > parents/advocates need to watch for abuse through the SST (Student Support > Team) process, sometimes now called RTI (Response to Intervention). If > parents request an evaluation to identify a suspected disability, schools > cannot put students in their SST/RTI Tier process for months first. This > violates Child Find requirements as stated in the memorandum. They must > evaluate. In the process of the evaluation, they can certainly do RTI. > > > > Help get the word out and educate our educators! > > > -- > Sara- different pathways lead to Nirvana. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2011 Report Share Posted January 29, 2011 So, I wonder how this affects my homebound child that we have been fighting for 3 years??? I just need a GOOD attorney. > > VERY IMPORTANT! Our school districts CANNOT by federal law (which > supersedes state opinIons ) REFUSE to evaluate. While this is specific to > GA DOE, it is true for all states where the schools are using RTI to sTALL. > > > > See the COPAA website: > > http://www.copaa.org/general/osep-rti-cannot-delaydeny-idea-eligibility-evaluati\ on/ > > > > The Office of Special Education Programs (OSEP) at USED issued a Memorandum > to State Directors of Special Education on Jan. 21, 2011, regarding the use > of a Response-to-Intervention process to delay-deny an evaluation for > eligibility under IDEA. > > http://www.copaa.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/OSEP.RTI_.memo_.01-21-111.pdf > > > > This has been a huge problem in GA that we have been complaining about and > notifying the GA DOE. NOW OSEP has finally clarified. Specifically in GA, > parents/advocates need to watch for abuse through the SST (Student Support > Team) process, sometimes now called RTI (Response to Intervention). If > parents request an evaluation to identify a suspected disability, schools > cannot put students in their SST/RTI Tier process for months first. This > violates Child Find requirements as stated in the memorandum. They must > evaluate. In the process of the evaluation, they can certainly do RTI. > > > > Help get the word out and educate our educators! > > > -- > Sara- different pathways lead to Nirvana. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2011 Report Share Posted January 29, 2011 I don't know - sent it as I received it. Address the DOE and ask. On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 11:28 AM, agirlnamedsuess21 < agirlnamedsuess@...> wrote: > > > This actually happened to us and I assume they did it because we > homeschool. Did they specifically address homeschooled students in this new > action? > > > > > > > > VERY IMPORTANT! Our school districts CANNOT by federal law (which > > supersedes state opinIons ) REFUSE to evaluate. While this is specific to > > GA DOE, it is true for all states where the schools are using RTI to > sTALL. > > > > > > > > See the COPAA website: > > > > > http://www.copaa.org/general/osep-rti-cannot-delaydeny-idea-eligibility-evaluati\ on/ > > > > > > > > The Office of Special Education Programs (OSEP) at USED issued a > Memorandum > > to State Directors of Special Education on Jan. 21, 2011, regarding the > use > > of a Response-to-Intervention process to delay-deny an evaluation for > > eligibility under IDEA. > > > > > http://www.copaa.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/OSEP.RTI_.memo_.01-21-111.pdf > > > > > > > > This has been a huge problem in GA that we have been complaining about > and > > notifying the GA DOE. NOW OSEP has finally clarified. Specifically in GA, > > parents/advocates need to watch for abuse through the SST (Student > Support > > Team) process, sometimes now called RTI (Response to Intervention). If > > parents request an evaluation to identify a suspected disability, schools > > cannot put students in their SST/RTI Tier process for months first. This > > violates Child Find requirements as stated in the memorandum. They must > > evaluate. In the process of the evaluation, they can certainly do RTI. > > > > > > > > Help get the word out and educate our educators! > > > > > > -- > > Sara- different pathways lead to Nirvana. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2011 Report Share Posted January 29, 2011 Hi Ladies, RTI is a general ed initiative that is intended to offer scientific researched based instruction with intensive progress monitoring. Many times students are classified with an LD and referred to sped when they were not given appropriate instruction. They just fell through the cracks. The process is 3 tiered; tier 1 is general classroom instruction, tier 2 is small group instruction(intensified to address weakneses) within the general ed classroom and tier 3 is a small group pull out( highly intensived instruction) It was specially to address all the students that were classified as having an LD, basically to separate the difference between real learning difficulties or the difference in poor instruction and teaching materials and strategies. Many times student fail because they just didn't understand the concepts because they were given poor instruction with teaching programs that were not effective and researched based. Many sped students are in the general ed classes and participate in RTI as all students. They can also participate in tier 3 most times taught by sped teachers if that group addresses their IEP goals. If the school staff feel that there is a problem, parents will be contacted before a student is placed in a tier 3 group. What is happening is that when parents ask to have their children evaluated the schools are telling the parents that they have to wait to be tested to see if they respond to RTI. At no time can a school deny a parent's request for evaluation regardless if they happen to be in any tier of RTI. The schools are using this for an excuse to deny evaluations which is illegal. The letter just clarifies the intent of IDEA. On the other side, I have sped students that had 1-1 sped instruction that were placed in a tiered 3 RTI that does not specifically address their IEP goals and no instruction with a sped teacher has taken place. It's a mess. It mostly addresses elementary and is set up and implemented much differently in the middle and high schools. In most cases this does not affect our kids. It is mostly for students with LD and not ID unless your kids happened to be fully included in general ed classes. It has no effect on homeschooling where the IEP goals are implemented. I hope this answers any questions that any of you may have regarding RTI. Charlyne > > > This actually happened to us and I assume they did it because we > homeschool. Did they specifically address homeschooled students in this new > action? > > > > > > > > VERY IMPORTANT! Our school districts CANNOT by federal law (which > > supersedes state opinIons ) REFUSE to evaluate. While this is specific to > > GA DOE, it is true for all states where the schools are using RTI to > sTALL. > > > > > > > > See the COPAA website: > > > > > http://www.copaa.org/general/osep-rti-cannot-delaydeny-idea-eligibility-evaluati\ on/ > > > > > > > > The Office of Special Education Programs (OSEP) at USED issued a > Memorandum > > to State Directors of Special Education on Jan. 21, 2011, regarding the > use > > of a Response-to-Intervention process to delay-deny an evaluation for > > eligibility under IDEA. > > > > > http://www.copaa.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/OSEP.RTI_.memo_.01-21-111.pdf > > > > > > > > This has been a huge problem in GA that we have been complaining about > and > > notifying the GA DOE. NOW OSEP has finally clarified. Specifically in GA, > > parents/advocates need to watch for abuse through the SST (Student > Support > > Team) process, sometimes now called RTI (Response to Intervention). If > > parents request an evaluation to identify a suspected disability, schools > > cannot put students in their SST/RTI Tier process for months first. This > > violates Child Find requirements as stated in the memorandum. They must > > evaluate. In the process of the evaluation, they can certainly do RTI. > > > > > > > > Help get the word out and educate our educators! > > > > > > -- > > Sara- different pathways lead to Nirvana. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2011 Report Share Posted January 29, 2011 Charlyne - thank you for the information. HOWEVER I feel it DOES apply to our kids : in some states RTI is being used to specifically keep kids from 'getting a label " which would allow them to get more targeted , research proven to work interventions - like but not exclusively- ABA. In GA it has been used to cirumvent the law - as I am sure it is being done elsewhere - anyplace that does not want to evaluate for fear of what the school will find and thus have to supply intervention for. An example which I lived with for YEARS was since your child has DS - thus MUST be MR - thus behavior therapy, other approaches to learning can be ignored (purposely not PC). For years schools refused to recognize the ASD part of my son. ANd used RTI or a less formalized method which did not include behavior intervention (only negative consequences), no PECS, no sensory integration. > > > Hi Ladies, > RTI is a general ed initiative that is intended to offer scientific > researched based instruction with intensive progress monitoring. Many times > students are classified with an LD and referred to sped when they were not > given appropriate instruction. They just fell through the cracks. The > process is 3 tiered; tier 1 is general classroom instruction, tier 2 is > small group instruction(intensified to address weakneses) within the general > ed classroom and tier 3 is a small group pull out( highly intensived > instruction) It was specially to address all the students that were > classified as having an LD, basically to separate the difference between > real learning difficulties or the difference in poor instruction and > teaching materials and strategies. Many times student fail because they just > didn't understand the concepts because they were given poor instruction with > teaching programs that were not effective and researched based. Many sped > students are in the > general ed classes and participate in RTI as all students. They can also > participate in tier 3 most times taught by sped teachers if that group > addresses their IEP goals. If the school staff feel that there is a problem, > parents will be contacted before a student is placed in a tier 3 group. > > What is happening is that when parents ask to have their children evaluated > the schools are telling the parents that they have to wait to be tested to > see if they respond to RTI. At no time can a school deny a parent's request > for evaluation regardless if they happen to be in any tier of RTI. The > schools are using this for an excuse to deny evaluations which is illegal. > The letter just clarifies the intent of IDEA. > > On the other side, I have sped students that had 1-1 sped instruction that > were placed in a tiered 3 RTI that does not specifically address their IEP > goals and no instruction with a sped teacher has taken place. It's a mess. > It mostly addresses elementary and is set up and implemented much > differently in the middle and high schools. > > In most cases this does not affect our kids. It is mostly for students with > LD and not ID unless your kids happened to be fully included in general ed > classes. It has no effect on homeschooling where the IEP goals are > implemented. I hope this answers any questions that any of you may have > regarding RTI. > Charlyne > > > > > > > > > > > This actually happened to us and I assume they did it because we > > > homeschool. Did they specifically address homeschooled students in this > new > > > action? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > VERY IMPORTANT! Our school districts CANNOT by federal law (which > > > > supersedes state opinIons ) REFUSE to evaluate. While this is specific > to > > > > GA DOE, it is true for all states where the schools are using RTI to > > > sTALL. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See the COPAA website: > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.copaa.org/general/osep-rti-cannot-delaydeny-idea-eligibility-evaluati\ on/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Office of Special Education Programs (OSEP) at USED issued a > > > Memorandum > > > > to State Directors of Special Education on Jan. 21, 2011, regarding the > > > use > > > > of a Response-to-Intervention process to delay-deny an evaluation for > > > > eligibility under IDEA. > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.copaa.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/OSEP.RTI_.memo_.01-21-111.pdf > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This has been a huge problem in GA that we have been complaining about > > > and > > > > notifying the GA DOE. NOW OSEP has finally clarified. Specifically in > GA, > > > > parents/advocates need to watch for abuse through the SST (Student > > > Support > > > > Team) process, sometimes now called RTI (Response to Intervention). If > > > > parents request an evaluation to identify a suspected disability, > schools > > > > cannot put students in their SST/RTI Tier process for months first. > This > > > > violates Child Find requirements as stated in the memorandum. They must > > > > evaluate. In the process of the evaluation, they can certainly do RTI. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Help get the word out and educate our educators! > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Sara- different pathways lead to Nirvana. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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