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Rickettsia (Tic Fever)???? or Lyme Disease?

On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 1:04 PM, skypinksunset wrote:

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>

>

>

>

> >

> > Okay, advice on something seemingly ordinary. Isaac is not usually sick.

> > He had a bad strep infection once when he was 5, had the red rash and

> > everything. Since then a few sinus infections. not many. But this fall I

> > can't get him well. The doctor has tested him for mono, strep and a UTI.

> > His blood work shows some kind of infection but we can't find it. He is

> > home at least once a week. The whole family got stuffy noses over

> > Thanksgiving but we all had lots of vitamin C and went about our business

> > yesterday. I sent Isaac to school and he had big problems (he wanted his

> > own box of tissues and the teacher would not let him have them so he

> called

> > the teacher an asshole). I am keeping him home today. Tried to get the

> > school to see that his reactions was extreme and not typically Isaac but

> of

> > course there will be big consequences for this. So here the rest of us

> are

> > getting over our colds and Isaac has a fever. The strep test was done 4

> > days ago so I can't take him back yet. But he has had a fever (on and

> off)

> > and been out of sorts since September. The doctor said to think mono even

> > though he did not test positive for mono. She said that some kids just

> get

> > viral infections that take as long as mono. However, we are now well past

> > the 6 week mark for a mono like illness.

> >

> >

> >

> > Anyone have a magic pill?

> >

> >

> >

> > Lori

> >

> > Mom to Isaac 13, and Tony 11

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Is there a test for this?

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From: [mailto: ] On Behalf

Of Sara Cohen

Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 2:07 PM

To:

Subject: Re: Re: I can't get my kid well!

Rickettsia (Tic Fever)???? or Lyme Disease?

On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 1:04 PM, skypinksunset <skypinksunset@...

<mailto:skypinksunset%40yahoo.com> >wrote:

>

>

>

>

>

> >

> > Okay, advice on something seemingly ordinary. Isaac is not usually sick.

> > He had a bad strep infection once when he was 5, had the red rash and

> > everything. Since then a few sinus infections. not many. But this fall I

> > can't get him well. The doctor has tested him for mono, strep and a UTI.

> > His blood work shows some kind of infection but we can't find it. He is

> > home at least once a week. The whole family got stuffy noses over

> > Thanksgiving but we all had lots of vitamin C and went about our

business

> > yesterday. I sent Isaac to school and he had big problems (he wanted his

> > own box of tissues and the teacher would not let him have them so he

> called

> > the teacher an asshole). I am keeping him home today. Tried to get the

> > school to see that his reactions was extreme and not typically Isaac but

> of

> > course there will be big consequences for this. So here the rest of us

> are

> > getting over our colds and Isaac has a fever. The strep test was done 4

> > days ago so I can't take him back yet. But he has had a fever (on and

> off)

> > and been out of sorts since September. The doctor said to think mono

even

> > though he did not test positive for mono. She said that some kids just

> get

> > viral infections that take as long as mono. However, we are now well

past

> > the 6 week mark for a mono like illness.

> >

> >

> >

> > Anyone have a magic pill?

> >

> >

> >

> > Lori

> >

> > Mom to Isaac 13, and Tony 11

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Definitely for Lyme!

Sent from my iPhone

> Is there a test for this?

>

> _____

>

> From: [mailto: ] On Behalf

> Of Sara Cohen

> Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 2:07 PM

> To:

> Subject: Re: Re: I can't get my kid well!

>

> Rickettsia (Tic Fever)???? or Lyme Disease?

>

> On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 1:04 PM, skypinksunset <skypinksunset@...

> <mailto:skypinksunset%40yahoo.com> >wrote:

>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> > > Okay, advice on something seemingly ordinary. Isaac is not usually sick.

> > > He had a bad strep infection once when he was 5, had the red rash and

> > > everything. Since then a few sinus infections. not many. But this fall I

> > > can't get him well. The doctor has tested him for mono, strep and a UTI.

> > > His blood work shows some kind of infection but we can't find it. He is

> > > home at least once a week. The whole family got stuffy noses over

> > > Thanksgiving but we all had lots of vitamin C and went about our

> business

> > > yesterday. I sent Isaac to school and he had big problems (he wanted his

> > > own box of tissues and the teacher would not let him have them so he

> > called

> > > the teacher an asshole). I am keeping him home today. Tried to get the

> > > school to see that his reactions was extreme and not typically Isaac but

> > of

> > > course there will be big consequences for this. So here the rest of us

> > are

> > > getting over our colds and Isaac has a fever. The strep test was done 4

> > > days ago so I can't take him back yet. But he has had a fever (on and

> > off)

> > > and been out of sorts since September. The doctor said to think mono

> even

> > > though he did not test positive for mono. She said that some kids just

> > get

> > > viral infections that take as long as mono. However, we are now well

> past

> > > the 6 week mark for a mono like illness.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Anyone have a magic pill?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Lori

> > >

> > > Mom to Isaac 13, and Tony 11

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Hi Kris:

My kids never throw up either! God forbid they should start. They still

can’t pee into the toilet with any aim and there is still more poop in the

bathroom than I think is necessary. Isaac sometimes doesn’t feel toilet

paper is up to the job so he will go through a whole pile of wash cloths and

leave them laying on the floor. Each and every time I make him take those

washcloths to the basement and put them in a bucket of warm water. He does

as requested and he STILL uses the washcloths when in the mood. Try

explaining this to people with NT kids. This is one of the reasons I’ve

never sent him off to camp.

Read the same article – possibly on this list serve? And we have been using

the dye free Claritin once a day for the stuffy nose. I am trying to

prevent an ear infection. The doctor has checked him twice and said no ear

or sinus infection.

And regarding the school, every time I call DPI they say exactly the same

things we do. They would enthusiastically support me filing a complaint

because he does have a plan they are supposed to follow when he calls a

teacher that word – he never used to do this but they took away all of his

support this year and then they decided to play musical SEAs. No

educational assistant is supposed to be assigned to a student, they rotate

so not only do the teachers not now the IEP but now neither do the SEAs.

Slowly out of desperation (and because I mentioned they were not following

the IEP) they have put an SEA back in his classes but they are rotating SEAs

and so far no one seems to know what is going on. So our problem is that

Isaac doesn’t feel well but just when we think he should be getting better,

off he goes to school and has an “incident” and then suddenly he is sick

again.

I wonder if being anxious can create a fever?

I forgot you guys are in Georgia. I always think you are in Minnesota, I

don’t know why.

Lori

Mom to Isaac 13, and Tony 12

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Of kaprisock

Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 3:32 PM

To:

Subject: Re: I can't get my kid well!

Hi Lori,

No majick bullet but I agree with regarding the tissue incident.

On many levels. I do not think the teacher exhibited much sensitivity &

further the school AND teacher needs to get a grip and/or a realistic

comprehension about expectations/rules designed for NT population &

expecting same when working with kiddos with special needs of any kind.

A*hole language is the least of their problems if they actually don't get it

or apply critical thinking skills to the issue(s).

This may not apply to Issac but I read something interesting in health news

the other day. A doctor(s)has been doing double blind study & the data is

showing that children with ear infections treated with antibiotics AND

antihistimines heal faster than those treated with just antibiotic. The docs

feel that all these decades of using antibiotics alone overlooked the

factoid of the sinus cavity & that the ear is part of the sinus cavity. Thus

far the findings make sense to other doctors interviewed that were not

involved in the study.

For some reason I thought of this article when I read your post outlining

all the negatives that came back from labwork. Seems you mentioned

everything but otis media or sinus infection. Perhaps this is something that

your doc might want to re-check for? One can stay chronically ill with

either or both. Heh, I know this how? DJ. Without fever or only like 98.6

(fever for him). He spent years on maintence antibiotics for half the

year-usually starting around Oct/Nov after school had started.

That ended after he was dx'd & placed on maintenance drugs for asthms/RAD

the fall of 6th grade. (hurrah!) Seems to never get even a cold now & never

seems to get sinus/ear infections. Going on 5 years now.

Future forewarning-since DJ entered high school he HAS caught stomach

viruses as well as whatever similar contagious crud of the day is. The

poopy/throw up bugs. It is just wierd because until 9th grade, DJ NEVER had

thrown up or had the poops...I have no idea why but he just never caught any

stomach bugs before high school.

Hugs to you & Issac.

Kris & DJ age 15 in GA

>

> Hi Lori,

>

> It's not a magic pill, but have you tried combining echinacea and zinc

with the

> C. The echinacea helps to boost the immune system while the zinc deters

the

> virus from reproducing. I do one pill (bought at the vitamin store) in

the

> morning with food. Just check with the doc if Isaac is on any meds that

the zinc

> won't interfere with them. Also sometimes with Aden what he really needsÂ

is

> sleep. We get a script for phenergan from our doc to help him sleep (it's

the

> only thing that really seems to work for him, but can only be used short

> term)Â this also helps with the stuffy nose.

>

> Unfortunately it sounds like Isaac's assessment of the teacher is blunt

but

> accurate. What would it hurt to let him have the tissues? Seems to me that

it

> would have decreased the disruptions to the class if he didn't need to

get up

> and get a tissue every 30 seconds. GRRRR I despise teachers that have the

> " because I said so " attitude. Sorry to rant, it's a sore spot with us.

>

> Hope everything gets better soon,

>

> Mom to Aden 7 DS, ASD Aren 4

> Washoe Valley Nv

>

> Â Â

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> To: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>

> Sent: Tue, November 30, 2010 9:48:17 AM

> Subject: I can't get my kid well!

>

> Â

> Okay, advice on something seemingly ordinary. Isaac is not usually sick.

> He had a bad strep infection once when he was 5, had the red rash and

> everything. Since then a few sinus infections. not many. But this fall I

> can't get him well. The doctor has tested him for mono, strep and a UTI.

> His blood work shows some kind of infection but we can't find it. He is

> home at least once a week. The whole family got stuffy noses over

> Thanksgiving but we all had lots of vitamin C and went about our business

> yesterday. I sent Isaac to school and he had big problems (he wanted his

> own box of tissues and the teacher would not let him have them so he

called

> the teacher an asshole). I am keeping him home today. Tried to get the

> school to see that his reactions was extreme and not typically Isaac but

of

> course there will be big consequences for this. So here the rest of us are

> getting over our colds and Isaac has a fever. The strep test was done 4

> days ago so I can't take him back yet. But he has had a fever (on and off)

> and been out of sorts since September. The doctor said to think mono even

> though he did not test positive for mono. She said that some kids just get

> viral infections that take as long as mono. However, we are now well past

> the 6 week mark for a mono like illness.

>

> Anyone have a magic pill?

>

> Lori

>

> Mom to Isaac 13, and Tony 11

>

>

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Funny how Elie never uses 'foul' language since he left school! Despite the

fact that he lives with s college age person and is hangin' with 20

somethings.

Also funny how his use of language is reason to sanction him, but their

failure to support is OK?

Yeah - Kris and I are in GA - as is MAry and maybe someone else.

>

>

> Hi Kris:

>

> My kids never throw up either! God forbid they should start. They still

> can’t pee into the toilet with any aim and there is still more poop in the

> bathroom than I think is necessary. Isaac sometimes doesn’t feel toilet

> paper is up to the job so he will go through a whole pile of wash cloths

> and

> leave them laying on the floor. Each and every time I make him take those

> washcloths to the basement and put them in a bucket of warm water. He does

> as requested and he STILL uses the washcloths when in the mood. Try

> explaining this to people with NT kids. This is one of the reasons I’ve

> never sent him off to camp.

>

> Read the same article – possibly on this list serve? And we have been using

> the dye free Claritin once a day for the stuffy nose. I am trying to

> prevent an ear infection. The doctor has checked him twice and said no ear

> or sinus infection.

>

> And regarding the school, every time I call DPI they say exactly the same

> things we do. They would enthusiastically support me filing a complaint

> because he does have a plan they are supposed to follow when he calls a

> teacher that word – he never used to do this but they took away all of his

> support this year and then they decided to play musical SEAs. No

> educational assistant is supposed to be assigned to a student, they rotate

> so not only do the teachers not now the IEP but now neither do the SEAs.

> Slowly out of desperation (and because I mentioned they were not following

> the IEP) they have put an SEA back in his classes but they are rotating

> SEAs

> and so far no one seems to know what is going on. So our problem is that

> Isaac doesn’t feel well but just when we think he should be getting better,

> off he goes to school and has an “incident†and then suddenly he is sick

> again.

>

> I wonder if being anxious can create a fever?

>

> I forgot you guys are in Georgia. I always think you are in Minnesota, I

> don’t know why.

>

> Lori

>

> Mom to Isaac 13, and Tony 12

>

> _____

>

> From: [mailto:

> ] On Behalf

> Of kaprisock

> Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 3:32 PM

> To:

> Subject: Re: I can't get my kid well!

>

> Hi Lori,

> No majick bullet but I agree with regarding the tissue incident.

> On many levels. I do not think the teacher exhibited much sensitivity &

> further the school AND teacher needs to get a grip and/or a realistic

> comprehension about expectations/rules designed for NT population &

> expecting same when working with kiddos with special needs of any kind.

> A*hole language is the least of their problems if they actually don't get

> it

> or apply critical thinking skills to the issue(s).

>

> This may not apply to Issac but I read something interesting in health news

> the other day. A doctor(s)has been doing double blind study & the data is

> showing that children with ear infections treated with antibiotics AND

> antihistimines heal faster than those treated with just antibiotic. The

> docs

> feel that all these decades of using antibiotics alone overlooked the

> factoid of the sinus cavity & that the ear is part of the sinus cavity.

> Thus

> far the findings make sense to other doctors interviewed that were not

> involved in the study.

>

> For some reason I thought of this article when I read your post outlining

> all the negatives that came back from labwork. Seems you mentioned

> everything but otis media or sinus infection. Perhaps this is something

> that

> your doc might want to re-check for? One can stay chronically ill with

> either or both. Heh, I know this how? DJ. Without fever or only like 98.6

> (fever for him). He spent years on maintence antibiotics for half the

> year-usually starting around Oct/Nov after school had started.

>

> That ended after he was dx'd & placed on maintenance drugs for asthms/RAD

> the fall of 6th grade. (hurrah!) Seems to never get even a cold now & never

> seems to get sinus/ear infections. Going on 5 years now.

>

> Future forewarning-since DJ entered high school he HAS caught stomach

> viruses as well as whatever similar contagious crud of the day is. The

> poopy/throw up bugs. It is just wierd because until 9th grade, DJ NEVER had

> thrown up or had the poops...I have no idea why but he just never caught

> any

> stomach bugs before high school.

>

> Hugs to you & Issac.

> Kris & DJ age 15 in GA

>

>

> >

> > Hi Lori,

> >

> > It's not a magic pill, but have you tried combining echinacea and zinc

> with the

> > C. The echinacea helps to boost the immune system while the zinc deters

> the

> > virus from reproducing. I do one pill (bought at the vitamin store) in

> the

> > morning with food. Just check with the doc if Isaac is on any meds that

> the zinc

> > won't interfere with them. Also sometimes with Aden what he really needsÂ

> is

> > sleep. We get a script for phenergan from our doc to help him sleep

> (it's

> the

> > only thing that really seems to work for him, but can only be used short

> > term)Â this also helps with the stuffy nose.

> >

> > Unfortunately it sounds like Isaac's assessment of the teacher is blunt

> but

> > accurate. What would it hurt to let him have the tissues? Seems to me

> that

> it

> > would have decreased the disruptions to the class if he didn't need to

> get up

> > and get a tissue every 30 seconds. GRRRR I despise teachers that have the

>

> > " because I said so " attitude. Sorry to rant, it's a sore spot with us.

> >

> > Hope everything gets better soon,

> >

> > Mom to Aden 7 DS, ASD Aren 4

> > Washoe Valley Nv

> >

> > Â Â

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> >

> > To: <mailto:

> %40yahoogroups.com <%2540yahoogroups.com>>

> > Sent: Tue, November 30, 2010 9:48:17 AM

> > Subject: I can't get my kid well!

> >

> > Â

> > Okay, advice on something seemingly ordinary. Isaac is not usually sick.

> > He had a bad strep infection once when he was 5, had the red rash and

> > everything. Since then a few sinus infections. not many. But this fall I

> > can't get him well. The doctor has tested him for mono, strep and a UTI.

> > His blood work shows some kind of infection but we can't find it. He is

> > home at least once a week. The whole family got stuffy noses over

> > Thanksgiving but we all had lots of vitamin C and went about our business

> > yesterday. I sent Isaac to school and he had big problems (he wanted his

> > own box of tissues and the teacher would not let him have them so he

> called

> > the teacher an asshole). I am keeping him home today. Tried to get the

> > school to see that his reactions was extreme and not typically Isaac but

> of

> > course there will be big consequences for this. So here the rest of us

> are

> > getting over our colds and Isaac has a fever. The strep test was done 4

> > days ago so I can't take him back yet. But he has had a fever (on and

> off)

> > and been out of sorts since September. The doctor said to think mono even

> > though he did not test positive for mono. She said that some kids just

> get

> > viral infections that take as long as mono. However, we are now well past

> > the 6 week mark for a mono like illness.

> >

> > Anyone have a magic pill?

> >

> > Lori

> >

> > Mom to Isaac 13, and Tony 11

> >

> >

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This is in NJ...is the other in GA??

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> Funny how Elie never uses 'foul' language since he left school! Despite the

> fact that he lives with s college age person and is hangin' with 20

> somethings.

>

> Also funny how his use of language is reason to sanction him, but their

> failure to support is OK?

>

> Yeah - Kris and I are in GA - as is MAry and maybe someone else.

>

>

>

> >

> >

> > Hi Kris:

> >

> > My kids never throw up either! God forbid they should start. They still

> > can’t pee into the toilet with any aim and there is still more poop in the

> > bathroom than I think is necessary. Isaac sometimes doesn’t feel toilet

> > paper is up to the job so he will go through a whole pile of wash cloths

> > and

> > leave them laying on the floor. Each and every time I make him take those

> > washcloths to the basement and put them in a bucket of warm water. He does

> > as requested and he STILL uses the washcloths when in the mood. Try

> > explaining this to people with NT kids. This is one of the reasons I’ve

> > never sent him off to camp.

> >

> > Read the same article – possibly on this list serve? And we have been

using

> > the dye free Claritin once a day for the stuffy nose. I am trying to

> > prevent an ear infection. The doctor has checked him twice and said no ear

> > or sinus infection.

> >

> > And regarding the school, every time I call DPI they say exactly the same

> > things we do. They would enthusiastically support me filing a complaint

> > because he does have a plan they are supposed to follow when he calls a

> > teacher that word – he never used to do this but they took away all of his

> > support this year and then they decided to play musical SEAs. No

> > educational assistant is supposed to be assigned to a student, they rotate

> > so not only do the teachers not now the IEP but now neither do the SEAs.

> > Slowly out of desperation (and because I mentioned they were not following

> > the IEP) they have put an SEA back in his classes but they are rotating

> > SEAs

> > and so far no one seems to know what is going on. So our problem is that

> > Isaac doesn’t feel well but just when we think he should be getting

better,

> > off he goes to school and has an “incident†and then suddenly he is sick

> > again.

> >

> > I wonder if being anxious can create a fever?

> >

> > I forgot you guys are in Georgia. I always think you are in Minnesota, I

> > don’t know why.

> >

> > Lori

> >

> > Mom to Isaac 13, and Tony 12

> >

> > _____

> >

> > From: [mailto:

> > ] On Behalf

> > Of kaprisock

> > Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 3:32 PM

> > To:

> > Subject: Re: I can't get my kid well!

> >

> > Hi Lori,

> > No majick bullet but I agree with regarding the tissue incident.

> > On many levels. I do not think the teacher exhibited much sensitivity &

> > further the school AND teacher needs to get a grip and/or a realistic

> > comprehension about expectations/rules designed for NT population &

> > expecting same when working with kiddos with special needs of any kind.

> > A*hole language is the least of their problems if they actually don't get

> > it

> > or apply critical thinking skills to the issue(s).

> >

> > This may not apply to Issac but I read something interesting in health news

> > the other day. A doctor(s)has been doing double blind study & the data is

> > showing that children with ear infections treated with antibiotics AND

> > antihistimines heal faster than those treated with just antibiotic. The

> > docs

> > feel that all these decades of using antibiotics alone overlooked the

> > factoid of the sinus cavity & that the ear is part of the sinus cavity.

> > Thus

> > far the findings make sense to other doctors interviewed that were not

> > involved in the study.

> >

> > For some reason I thought of this article when I read your post outlining

> > all the negatives that came back from labwork. Seems you mentioned

> > everything but otis media or sinus infection. Perhaps this is something

> > that

> > your doc might want to re-check for? One can stay chronically ill with

> > either or both. Heh, I know this how? DJ. Without fever or only like 98.6

> > (fever for him). He spent years on maintence antibiotics for half the

> > year-usually starting around Oct/Nov after school had started.

> >

> > That ended after he was dx'd & placed on maintenance drugs for asthms/RAD

> > the fall of 6th grade. (hurrah!) Seems to never get even a cold now & never

> > seems to get sinus/ear infections. Going on 5 years now.

> >

> > Future forewarning-since DJ entered high school he HAS caught stomach

> > viruses as well as whatever similar contagious crud of the day is. The

> > poopy/throw up bugs. It is just wierd because until 9th grade, DJ NEVER had

> > thrown up or had the poops...I have no idea why but he just never caught

> > any

> > stomach bugs before high school.

> >

> > Hugs to you & Issac.

> > Kris & DJ age 15 in GA

> >

> >

> > >

> > > Hi Lori,

> > >

> > > It's not a magic pill, but have you tried combining echinacea and zinc

> > with the

> > > C. The echinacea helps to boost the immune system while the zinc deters

> > the

> > > virus from reproducing. I do one pill (bought at the vitamin store) in

> > the

> > > morning with food. Just check with the doc if Isaac is on any meds that

> > the zinc

> > > won't interfere with them. Also sometimes with Aden what he really needsÂ

> > is

> > > sleep. We get a script for phenergan from our doc to help him sleep

> > (it's

> > the

> > > only thing that really seems to work for him, but can only be used short

> > > term)Â this also helps with the stuffy nose.

> > >

> > > Unfortunately it sounds like Isaac's assessment of the teacher is blunt

> > but

> > > accurate. What would it hurt to let him have the tissues? Seems to me

> > that

> > it

> > > would have decreased the disruptions to the class if he didn't need to

> > get up

> > > and get a tissue every 30 seconds. GRRRR I despise teachers that have the

> >

> > > " because I said so " attitude. Sorry to rant, it's a sore spot with us.

> > >

> > > Hope everything gets better soon,

> > >

> > > Mom to Aden 7 DS, ASD Aren 4

> > > Washoe Valley Nv

> > >

> > > Â Â

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ________________________________

> > >

> > > To: <mailto:

> > %40yahoogroups.com <%2540yahoogroups.com>>

> > > Sent: Tue, November 30, 2010 9:48:17 AM

> > > Subject: I can't get my kid well!

> > >

> > > Â

> > > Okay, advice on something seemingly ordinary. Isaac is not usually sick.

> > > He had a bad strep infection once when he was 5, had the red rash and

> > > everything. Since then a few sinus infections. not many. But this fall I

> > > can't get him well. The doctor has tested him for mono, strep and a UTI.

> > > His blood work shows some kind of infection but we can't find it. He is

> > > home at least once a week. The whole family got stuffy noses over

> > > Thanksgiving but we all had lots of vitamin C and went about our business

> > > yesterday. I sent Isaac to school and he had big problems (he wanted his

> > > own box of tissues and the teacher would not let him have them so he

> > called

> > > the teacher an asshole). I am keeping him home today. Tried to get the

> > > school to see that his reactions was extreme and not typically Isaac but

> > of

> > > course there will be big consequences for this. So here the rest of us

> > are

> > > getting over our colds and Isaac has a fever. The strep test was done 4

> > > days ago so I can't take him back yet. But he has had a fever (on and

> > off)

> > > and been out of sorts since September. The doctor said to think mono even

> > > though he did not test positive for mono. She said that some kids just

> > get

> > > viral infections that take as long as mono. However, we are now well past

> > > the 6 week mark for a mono like illness.

> > >

> > > Anyone have a magic pill?

> > >

> > > Lori

> > >

> > > Mom to Isaac 13, and Tony 11

> > >

> > >

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There is/was a C. in GA. She may not be posting here anymore - I see

her on F/B

>

>

> This is in NJ...is the other in GA??

>

>

>

> Sent from my iPhone

>

>

> On Nov 30, 2010, at 7:46 PM, Sara Cohen

<pastmidvale@...<pastmidvale%40gmail.com>>

> wrote:

>

> > Funny how Elie never uses 'foul' language since he left school! Despite

> the

> > fact that he lives with s college age person and is hangin' with 20

> > somethings.

> >

> > Also funny how his use of language is reason to sanction him, but their

> > failure to support is OK?

> >

> > Yeah - Kris and I are in GA - as is MAry and maybe someone else.

> >

> > On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 5:58 PM, Lori

<uccpowell@...<uccpowell%40tds.net>>

> wrote:

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > Hi Kris:

> > >

> > > My kids never throw up either! God forbid they should start. They still

> > > can’t pee into the toilet with any aim and there is still more poop in

> the

> > > bathroom than I think is necessary. Isaac sometimes doesn’t feel toilet

> > > paper is up to the job so he will go through a whole pile of wash

> cloths

> > > and

> > > leave them laying on the floor. Each and every time I make him take

> those

> > > washcloths to the basement and put them in a bucket of warm water. He

> does

> > > as requested and he STILL uses the washcloths when in the mood. Try

> > > explaining this to people with NT kids. This is one of the reasons I’ve

> > > never sent him off to camp.

> > >

> > > Read the same article – possibly on this list serve? And we have been

> using

> > > the dye free Claritin once a day for the stuffy nose. I am trying to

> > > prevent an ear infection. The doctor has checked him twice and said no

> ear

> > > or sinus infection.

> > >

> > > And regarding the school, every time I call DPI they say exactly the

> same

> > > things we do. They would enthusiastically support me filing a complaint

> > > because he does have a plan they are supposed to follow when he calls a

> > > teacher that word – he never used to do this but they took away all of

> his

> > > support this year and then they decided to play musical SEAs. No

> > > educational assistant is supposed to be assigned to a student, they

> rotate

> > > so not only do the teachers not now the IEP but now neither do the

> SEAs.

> > > Slowly out of desperation (and because I mentioned they were not

> following

> > > the IEP) they have put an SEA back in his classes but they are rotating

> > > SEAs

> > > and so far no one seems to know what is going on. So our problem is

> that

> > > Isaac doesn’t feel well but just when we think he should be getting

> better,

> > > off he goes to school and has an “incident†and then suddenly he is

> sick

> > > again.

> > >

> > > I wonder if being anxious can create a fever?

> > >

> > > I forgot you guys are in Georgia. I always think you are in Minnesota,

> I

> > > don’t know why.

> > >

> > > Lori

> > >

> > > Mom to Isaac 13, and Tony 12

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > From: <%

> 40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:

> > > <%

> 40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf

>

> > > Of kaprisock

> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 3:32 PM

> > > To: <%

> 40yahoogroups.com>

>

> > > Subject: Re: I can't get my kid well!

> > >

> > > Hi Lori,

> > > No majick bullet but I agree with regarding the tissue incident.

> > > On many levels. I do not think the teacher exhibited much sensitivity &

> > > further the school AND teacher needs to get a grip and/or a realistic

> > > comprehension about expectations/rules designed for NT population &

> > > expecting same when working with kiddos with special needs of any kind.

> > > A*hole language is the least of their problems if they actually don't

> get

> > > it

> > > or apply critical thinking skills to the issue(s).

> > >

> > > This may not apply to Issac but I read something interesting in health

> news

> > > the other day. A doctor(s)has been doing double blind study & the data

> is

> > > showing that children with ear infections treated with antibiotics AND

> > > antihistimines heal faster than those treated with just antibiotic. The

> > > docs

> > > feel that all these decades of using antibiotics alone overlooked the

> > > factoid of the sinus cavity & that the ear is part of the sinus cavity.

> > > Thus

> > > far the findings make sense to other doctors interviewed that were not

> > > involved in the study.

> > >

> > > For some reason I thought of this article when I read your post

> outlining

> > > all the negatives that came back from labwork. Seems you mentioned

> > > everything but otis media or sinus infection. Perhaps this is something

> > > that

> > > your doc might want to re-check for? One can stay chronically ill with

> > > either or both. Heh, I know this how? DJ. Without fever or only like

> 98.6

> > > (fever for him). He spent years on maintence antibiotics for half the

> > > year-usually starting around Oct/Nov after school had started.

> > >

> > > That ended after he was dx'd & placed on maintenance drugs for

> asthms/RAD

> > > the fall of 6th grade. (hurrah!) Seems to never get even a cold now &

> never

> > > seems to get sinus/ear infections. Going on 5 years now.

> > >

> > > Future forewarning-since DJ entered high school he HAS caught stomach

> > > viruses as well as whatever similar contagious crud of the day is. The

> > > poopy/throw up bugs. It is just wierd because until 9th grade, DJ NEVER

> had

> > > thrown up or had the poops...I have no idea why but he just never

> caught

> > > any

> > > stomach bugs before high school.

> > >

> > > Hugs to you & Issac.

> > > Kris & DJ age 15 in GA

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Hi Lori,

> > > >

> > > > It's not a magic pill, but have you tried combining echinacea and

> zinc

> > > with the

> > > > C. The echinacea helps to boost the immune system while the zinc

> deters

> > > the

> > > > virus from reproducing. I do one pill (bought at the vitamin store)

> in

> > > the

> > > > morning with food. Just check with the doc if Isaac is on any meds

> that

> > > the zinc

> > > > won't interfere with them. Also sometimes with Aden what he really

> needsÂ

> > > is

> > > > sleep. We get a script for phenergan from our doc to help him sleep

> > > (it's

> > > the

> > > > only thing that really seems to work for him, but can only be used

> short

> > > > term)Â this also helps with the stuffy nose.

> > > >

> > > > Unfortunately it sounds like Isaac's assessment of the teacher is

> blunt

> > > but

> > > > accurate. What would it hurt to let him have the tissues? Seems to me

> > > that

> > > it

> > > > would have decreased the disruptions to the class if he didn't need

> to

> > > get up

> > > > and get a tissue every 30 seconds. GRRRR I despise teachers that have

> the

> > >

> > > > " because I said so " attitude. Sorry to rant, it's a sore spot with

> us.

> > > >

> > > > Hope everything gets better soon,

> > > >

> > > > Mom to Aden 7 DS, ASD Aren 4

> > > > Washoe Valley Nv

> > > >

> > > > Â Â

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ________________________________

> > > >

> > > > To: <%

> 40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:

> > > %40yahoogroups.com <%2540yahoogroups.com>>

>

> > > > Sent: Tue, November 30, 2010 9:48:17 AM

> > > > Subject: I can't get my kid well!

> > > >

> > > > Â

> > > > Okay, advice on something seemingly ordinary. Isaac is not usually

> sick.

> > > > He had a bad strep infection once when he was 5, had the red rash and

> > > > everything. Since then a few sinus infections. not many. But this

> fall I

> > > > can't get him well. The doctor has tested him for mono, strep and a

> UTI.

> > > > His blood work shows some kind of infection but we can't find it. He

> is

> > > > home at least once a week. The whole family got stuffy noses over

> > > > Thanksgiving but we all had lots of vitamin C and went about our

> business

> > > > yesterday. I sent Isaac to school and he had big problems (he wanted

> his

> > > > own box of tissues and the teacher would not let him have them so he

> > > called

> > > > the teacher an asshole). I am keeping him home today. Tried to get

> the

> > > > school to see that his reactions was extreme and not typically Isaac

> but

> > > of

> > > > course there will be big consequences for this. So here the rest of

> us

> > > are

> > > > getting over our colds and Isaac has a fever. The strep test was done

> 4

> > > > days ago so I can't take him back yet. But he has had a fever (on and

> > > off)

> > > > and been out of sorts since September. The doctor said to think mono

> even

> > > > though he did not test positive for mono. She said that some kids

> just

> > > get

> > > > viral infections that take as long as mono. However, we are now well

> past

> > > > the 6 week mark for a mono like illness.

> > > >

> > > > Anyone have a magic pill?

> > > >

> > > > Lori

> > > >

> > > > Mom to Isaac 13, and Tony 11

> > > >

> > > >

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Ah...that explains it. :)

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> There is/was a C. in GA. She may not be posting here anymore - I see

> her on F/B

>

>

>

> >

> >

> > This is in NJ...is the other in GA??

> >

> >

> >

> > Sent from my iPhone

> >

> >

> > On Nov 30, 2010, at 7:46 PM, Sara Cohen

<pastmidvale@...<pastmidvale%40gmail.com>>

> > wrote:

> >

> > > Funny how Elie never uses 'foul' language since he left school! Despite

> > the

> > > fact that he lives with s college age person and is hangin' with 20

> > > somethings.

> > >

> > > Also funny how his use of language is reason to sanction him, but their

> > > failure to support is OK?

> > >

> > > Yeah - Kris and I are in GA - as is MAry and maybe someone else.

> > >

> > > On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 5:58 PM, Lori

<uccpowell@...<uccpowell%40tds.net>>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Hi Kris:

> > > >

> > > > My kids never throw up either! God forbid they should start. They still

> > > > can’t pee into the toilet with any aim and there is still more poop in

> > the

> > > > bathroom than I think is necessary. Isaac sometimes doesn’t feel

toilet

> > > > paper is up to the job so he will go through a whole pile of wash

> > cloths

> > > > and

> > > > leave them laying on the floor. Each and every time I make him take

> > those

> > > > washcloths to the basement and put them in a bucket of warm water. He

> > does

> > > > as requested and he STILL uses the washcloths when in the mood. Try

> > > > explaining this to people with NT kids. This is one of the reasons

I’ve

> > > > never sent him off to camp.

> > > >

> > > > Read the same article – possibly on this list serve? And we have been

> > using

> > > > the dye free Claritin once a day for the stuffy nose. I am trying to

> > > > prevent an ear infection. The doctor has checked him twice and said no

> > ear

> > > > or sinus infection.

> > > >

> > > > And regarding the school, every time I call DPI they say exactly the

> > same

> > > > things we do. They would enthusiastically support me filing a complaint

> > > > because he does have a plan they are supposed to follow when he calls a

> > > > teacher that word – he never used to do this but they took away all of

> > his

> > > > support this year and then they decided to play musical SEAs. No

> > > > educational assistant is supposed to be assigned to a student, they

> > rotate

> > > > so not only do the teachers not now the IEP but now neither do the

> > SEAs.

> > > > Slowly out of desperation (and because I mentioned they were not

> > following

> > > > the IEP) they have put an SEA back in his classes but they are rotating

> > > > SEAs

> > > > and so far no one seems to know what is going on. So our problem is

> > that

> > > > Isaac doesn’t feel well but just when we think he should be getting

> > better,

> > > > off he goes to school and has an “incident†and then suddenly he is

> > sick

> > > > again.

> > > >

> > > > I wonder if being anxious can create a fever?

> > > >

> > > > I forgot you guys are in Georgia. I always think you are in Minnesota,

> > I

> > > > don’t know why.

> > > >

> > > > Lori

> > > >

> > > > Mom to Isaac 13, and Tony 12

> > > >

> > > > _____

> > > >

> > > > From: <%

> > 40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:

> > > > <%

> > 40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf

> >

> > > > Of kaprisock

> > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 3:32 PM

> > > > To: <%

> > 40yahoogroups.com>

> >

> > > > Subject: Re: I can't get my kid well!

> > > >

> > > > Hi Lori,

> > > > No majick bullet but I agree with regarding the tissue incident.

> > > > On many levels. I do not think the teacher exhibited much sensitivity &

> > > > further the school AND teacher needs to get a grip and/or a realistic

> > > > comprehension about expectations/rules designed for NT population &

> > > > expecting same when working with kiddos with special needs of any kind.

> > > > A*hole language is the least of their problems if they actually don't

> > get

> > > > it

> > > > or apply critical thinking skills to the issue(s).

> > > >

> > > > This may not apply to Issac but I read something interesting in health

> > news

> > > > the other day. A doctor(s)has been doing double blind study & the data

> > is

> > > > showing that children with ear infections treated with antibiotics AND

> > > > antihistimines heal faster than those treated with just antibiotic. The

> > > > docs

> > > > feel that all these decades of using antibiotics alone overlooked the

> > > > factoid of the sinus cavity & that the ear is part of the sinus cavity.

> > > > Thus

> > > > far the findings make sense to other doctors interviewed that were not

> > > > involved in the study.

> > > >

> > > > For some reason I thought of this article when I read your post

> > outlining

> > > > all the negatives that came back from labwork. Seems you mentioned

> > > > everything but otis media or sinus infection. Perhaps this is something

> > > > that

> > > > your doc might want to re-check for? One can stay chronically ill with

> > > > either or both. Heh, I know this how? DJ. Without fever or only like

> > 98.6

> > > > (fever for him). He spent years on maintence antibiotics for half the

> > > > year-usually starting around Oct/Nov after school had started.

> > > >

> > > > That ended after he was dx'd & placed on maintenance drugs for

> > asthms/RAD

> > > > the fall of 6th grade. (hurrah!) Seems to never get even a cold now &

> > never

> > > > seems to get sinus/ear infections. Going on 5 years now.

> > > >

> > > > Future forewarning-since DJ entered high school he HAS caught stomach

> > > > viruses as well as whatever similar contagious crud of the day is. The

> > > > poopy/throw up bugs. It is just wierd because until 9th grade, DJ NEVER

> > had

> > > > thrown up or had the poops...I have no idea why but he just never

> > caught

> > > > any

> > > > stomach bugs before high school.

> > > >

> > > > Hugs to you & Issac.

> > > > Kris & DJ age 15 in GA

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi Lori,

> > > > >

> > > > > It's not a magic pill, but have you tried combining echinacea and

> > zinc

> > > > with the

> > > > > C. The echinacea helps to boost the immune system while the zinc

> > deters

> > > > the

> > > > > virus from reproducing. I do one pill (bought at the vitamin store)

> > in

> > > > the

> > > > > morning with food. Just check with the doc if Isaac is on any meds

> > that

> > > > the zinc

> > > > > won't interfere with them. Also sometimes with Aden what he really

> > needsÂ

> > > > is

> > > > > sleep. We get a script for phenergan from our doc to help him sleep

> > > > (it's

> > > > the

> > > > > only thing that really seems to work for him, but can only be used

> > short

> > > > > term)Â this also helps with the stuffy nose.

> > > > >

> > > > > Unfortunately it sounds like Isaac's assessment of the teacher is

> > blunt

> > > > but

> > > > > accurate. What would it hurt to let him have the tissues? Seems to me

> > > > that

> > > > it

> > > > > would have decreased the disruptions to the class if he didn't need

> > to

> > > > get up

> > > > > and get a tissue every 30 seconds. GRRRR I despise teachers that have

> > the

> > > >

> > > > > " because I said so " attitude. Sorry to rant, it's a sore spot with

> > us.

> > > > >

> > > > > Hope everything gets better soon,

> > > > >

> > > > > Mom to Aden 7 DS, ASD Aren 4

> > > > > Washoe Valley Nv

> > > > >

> > > > > Â Â

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ________________________________

> > > > >

> > > > > To: <%

> > 40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:

> > > > %40yahoogroups.com <%2540yahoogroups.com>>

> >

> > > > > Sent: Tue, November 30, 2010 9:48:17 AM

> > > > > Subject: I can't get my kid well!

> > > > >

> > > > > Â

> > > > > Okay, advice on something seemingly ordinary. Isaac is not usually

> > sick.

> > > > > He had a bad strep infection once when he was 5, had the red rash and

> > > > > everything. Since then a few sinus infections. not many. But this

> > fall I

> > > > > can't get him well. The doctor has tested him for mono, strep and a

> > UTI.

> > > > > His blood work shows some kind of infection but we can't find it. He

> > is

> > > > > home at least once a week. The whole family got stuffy noses over

> > > > > Thanksgiving but we all had lots of vitamin C and went about our

> > business

> > > > > yesterday. I sent Isaac to school and he had big problems (he wanted

> > his

> > > > > own box of tissues and the teacher would not let him have them so he

> > > > called

> > > > > the teacher an asshole). I am keeping him home today. Tried to get

> > the

> > > > > school to see that his reactions was extreme and not typically Isaac

> > but

> > > > of

> > > > > course there will be big consequences for this. So here the rest of

> > us

> > > > are

> > > > > getting over our colds and Isaac has a fever. The strep test was done

> > 4

> > > > > days ago so I can't take him back yet. But he has had a fever (on and

> > > > off)

> > > > > and been out of sorts since September. The doctor said to think mono

> > even

> > > > > though he did not test positive for mono. She said that some kids

> > just

> > > > get

> > > > > viral infections that take as long as mono. However, we are now well

> > past

> > > > > the 6 week mark for a mono like illness.

> > > > >

> > > > > Anyone have a magic pill?

> > > > >

> > > > > Lori

> > > > >

> > > > > Mom to Isaac 13, and Tony 11

> > > > >

> > > > >

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Hi Lori,

I know its not easy to have a sick kid, but it is possible to have a virus that

lasts a long time. Some even have a cycle where they seem to get better and then

come back or I've had ones that have a looong cough for weeks after. It may be

that this is a long lasting virus or he may have caught 2 in a row. You could

ask a nurse or Dr's at a clinic if they're seeing a run of similar symptoms or

lots of different viruses this season. These things have a cycle and nurses at

drop in clinics usually recognize what's " popular " .

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Re: I can't get my kid well!

Lori, What about intestinal or gut issues? Is Isaac having a BM everyday? They

can get infection in their gut from not defecating regular. What about retesting

for Mono, strep, and the UTI? Sometimes it is to early to get test results but

if given again the test will show positive. To help build up the immune system

Glutathione-helps to powerhouse the cell, and Boost the immune system. We do

transdermal glutathione. Cyndi B

> >

> > Okay, advice on something seemingly ordinary. Isaac is not usually sick.

> > He had a bad strep infection once when he was 5, had the red rash and

> > everything. Since then a few sinus infections. not many. But this fall I

> > can't get him well. The doctor has tested him for mono, strep and a UTI.

> > His blood work shows some kind of infection but we can't find it. He is

> > home at least once a week. The whole family got stuffy noses over

> > Thanksgiving but we all had lots of vitamin C and went about our business

> > yesterday. I sent Isaac to school and he had big problems (he wanted his

> > own box of tissues and the teacher would not let him have them so he called

> > the teacher an asshole). I am keeping him home today. Tried to get the

> > school to see that his reactions was extreme and not typically Isaac but of

> > course there will be big consequences for this. So here the rest of us are

> > getting over our colds and Isaac has a fever. The strep test was done 4

> > days ago so I can't take him back yet. But he has had a fever (on and off)

> > and been out of sorts since September. The doctor said to think mono even

> > though he did not test positive for mono. She said that some kids just get

> > viral infections that take as long as mono. However, we are now well past

> > the 6 week mark for a mono like illness.

> >

> >

> >

> > Anyone have a magic pill?

> >

> >

> >

> > Lori

> >

> > Mom to Isaac 13, and Tony 11

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Isaac is rarely sick - that's why I gave a bit of a history in the first

post. This is a kid who is never sick, does not mouth anything, his being

sick is not typical. Not by a long shot. I think the relevance of him

asking us if he has cancer and is going to die is simply that he knows he is

not well and has no basis for understanding this.

When Tony was first brought home he got a sore throat within days (probably

a new environment, he was never taken out of his foster home for outings)

and he wouldn't speak to me. He was so mad because he thought I caused his

sort throat. He would sign to Isaac that he wanted juice or food and Isaac

would tell me. It was very cute. Now even Tony but certainly Isaac knows

what it means to be sick and this time around, it is very confusing.

We took out the carpeting in our house in May and my husband and I put in a

recycled oak floor. Is there a toxin somewhere that only became apparent

when we had to close up the house for winter?

This is the mystery.

Lori

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Of agirlnamedsuess21

Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 11:30 AM

To:

Subject: Re: I can't get my kid well!

Doubtful it is cancer. You can put his mind at ease with that.

children with autism (and especially with Down syndrome AND autism) have

immune system problems. If your child is one that does not, then consider

yourself VERY lucky.

This would be a great opportunity to teach great handwashing skills (to the

point of being OCD about it) and good germ control measures. Most kids do

not know these things.

For instance, we sneeze or cough, when possible, into our elbows. We wash,

wash, wash our hands before we eat, after we come inside, etc...

We change clothes when we come in from some place (and the clothes go to the

laundry room right away and get washed). We take hand gel on the run with

us...everywhere we go. We do NOT drink out of water fountains at

all...EVER...if you only follow two things, it should be frequent

handwashing and no water fountains. Also, we do not drink after each other;

I am very adamant about this one. And we constantly work on keeping hands

out of mouths (a difficult one, and you always hear me saying " get your

hands out of your mouth " , as he is a hand chewer.)

I absolutely became neurotic about germs and it has helped tremendously to

keep my son well.

And one other thing, it is very different to be exposed to your own family's

germs (no need to keep an impeccably clean house) than to be exposed to

other peoples germs. The way the doctor explained it to us was that our

germs are in a controlled environment and everyone else's are not. Other's

are exposed to innumerable amount of germs by the people they come into

contact with everyday and those people and so on. When you limit the

exposure and become OCD about germs in your own household (as far as

handwashing and bringing outside germs in), then you will have a better hold

on keeping your child well (until he can keep his ownself well *hopefully*

when older and the immune system is more mature.)

>

> From: Lori <uccpowell@... <mailto:uccpowell%40tds.net> >

> Subject: I can't get my kid well!

> To: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>

<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>

> Date: Tuesday, November 30, 2010, 12:48 PM

>

>

>

> Okay, advice on something seemingly ordinary. Isaac is not usually sick.

>

> He had a bad strep infection once when he was 5, had the red rash and

>

> everything. Since then a few sinus infections. not many. But this fall I

>

> can't get him well. The doctor has tested him for mono, strep and a UTI.

>

> His blood work shows some kind of infection but we can't find it. He is

>

> home at least once a week. The whole family got stuffy noses over

>

> Thanksgiving but we all had lots of vitamin C and went about our business

>

> yesterday. I sent Isaac to school and he had big problems (he wanted his

>

> own box of tissues and the teacher would not let him have them so he

called

>

> the teacher an asshole). I am keeping him home today. Tried to get the

>

> school to see that his reactions was extreme and not typically Isaac but

of

>

> course there will be big consequences for this. So here the rest of us are

>

> getting over our colds and Isaac has a fever. The strep test was done 4

>

> days ago so I can't take him back yet. But he has had a fever (on and off)

>

> and been out of sorts since September. The doctor said to think mono even

>

> though he did not test positive for mono. She said that some kids just get

>

> viral infections that take as long as mono. However, we are now well past

>

> the 6 week mark for a mono like illness.

>

> Anyone have a magic pill?

>

> Lori

>

> Mom to Isaac 13, and Tony 11

>

>

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Lori, anything is possible. I wonder what they use to recycle flooring.

Charlyne

Mom to Zeb 17 DS

Subject: RE: Re: I can't get my kid well!

To:

Date: Thursday, December 2, 2010, 1:15 PM

Â

Isaac is rarely sick - that's why I gave a bit of a history in the first

post. This is a kid who is never sick, does not mouth anything, his being

sick is not typical. Not by a long shot. I think the relevance of him

asking us if he has cancer and is going to die is simply that he knows he is

not well and has no basis for understanding this.

When Tony was first brought home he got a sore throat within days (probably

a new environment, he was never taken out of his foster home for outings)

and he wouldn't speak to me. He was so mad because he thought I caused his

sort throat. He would sign to Isaac that he wanted juice or food and Isaac

would tell me. It was very cute. Now even Tony but certainly Isaac knows

what it means to be sick and this time around, it is very confusing.

We took out the carpeting in our house in May and my husband and I put in a

recycled oak floor. Is there a toxin somewhere that only became apparent

when we had to close up the house for winter?

This is the mystery.

Lori

_____

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf

Of agirlnamedsuess21

Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 11:30 AM

To:

Subject: Re: I can't get my kid well!

Doubtful it is cancer. You can put his mind at ease with that.

children with autism (and especially with Down syndrome AND autism) have

immune system problems. If your child is one that does not, then consider

yourself VERY lucky.

This would be a great opportunity to teach great handwashing skills (to the

point of being OCD about it) and good germ control measures. Most kids do

not know these things.

For instance, we sneeze or cough, when possible, into our elbows. We wash,

wash, wash our hands before we eat, after we come inside, etc...

We change clothes when we come in from some place (and the clothes go to the

laundry room right away and get washed). We take hand gel on the run with

us...everywhere we go. We do NOT drink out of water fountains at

all...EVER...if you only follow two things, it should be frequent

handwashing and no water fountains. Also, we do not drink after each other;

I am very adamant about this one. And we constantly work on keeping hands

out of mouths (a difficult one, and you always hear me saying " get your

hands out of your mouth " , as he is a hand chewer.)

I absolutely became neurotic about germs and it has helped tremendously to

keep my son well.

And one other thing, it is very different to be exposed to your own family's

germs (no need to keep an impeccably clean house) than to be exposed to

other peoples germs. The way the doctor explained it to us was that our

germs are in a controlled environment and everyone else's are not. Other's

are exposed to innumerable amount of germs by the people they come into

contact with everyday and those people and so on. When you limit the

exposure and become OCD about germs in your own household (as far as

handwashing and bringing outside germs in), then you will have a better hold

on keeping your child well (until he can keep his ownself well *hopefully*

when older and the immune system is more mature.)

>

> From: Lori <uccpowell@... <mailto:uccpowell%40tds.net> >

> Subject: I can't get my kid well!

> To: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>

<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>

> Date: Tuesday, November 30, 2010, 12:48 PM

>

>

>

> Okay, advice on something seemingly ordinary. Isaac is not usually sick.

>

> He had a bad strep infection once when he was 5, had the red rash and

>

> everything. Since then a few sinus infections. not many. But this fall I

>

> can't get him well. The doctor has tested him for mono, strep and a UTI.

>

> His blood work shows some kind of infection but we can't find it. He is

>

> home at least once a week. The whole family got stuffy noses over

>

> Thanksgiving but we all had lots of vitamin C and went about our business

>

> yesterday. I sent Isaac to school and he had big problems (he wanted his

>

> own box of tissues and the teacher would not let him have them so he

called

>

> the teacher an asshole). I am keeping him home today. Tried to get the

>

> school to see that his reactions was extreme and not typically Isaac but

of

>

> course there will be big consequences for this. So here the rest of us are

>

> getting over our colds and Isaac has a fever. The strep test was done 4

>

> days ago so I can't take him back yet. But he has had a fever (on and off)

>

> and been out of sorts since September. The doctor said to think mono even

>

> though he did not test positive for mono. She said that some kids just get

>

> viral infections that take as long as mono. However, we are now well past

>

> the 6 week mark for a mono like illness.

>

> Anyone have a magic pill?

>

> Lori

>

> Mom to Isaac 13, and Tony 11

>

>

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Lori, I think it's scary that he's asking about cancer. Have the Dr's done any

blood work that would rule it out? I'm sure you're right about him not having

anything else to relate to the way he's feeling.

I sure hope he feels better soon!!!

Sent from my iPhone

> Isaac is rarely sick - that's why I gave a bit of a history in the first

> post. This is a kid who is never sick, does not mouth anything, his being

> sick is not typical. Not by a long shot. I think the relevance of him

> asking us if he has cancer and is going to die is simply that he knows he is

> not well and has no basis for understanding this.

>

> When Tony was first brought home he got a sore throat within days (probably

> a new environment, he was never taken out of his foster home for outings)

> and he wouldn't speak to me. He was so mad because he thought I caused his

> sort throat. He would sign to Isaac that he wanted juice or food and Isaac

> would tell me. It was very cute. Now even Tony but certainly Isaac knows

> what it means to be sick and this time around, it is very confusing.

>

> We took out the carpeting in our house in May and my husband and I put in a

> recycled oak floor. Is there a toxin somewhere that only became apparent

> when we had to close up the house for winter?

>

> This is the mystery.

>

> Lori

>

> _____

>

> From: [mailto: ] On Behalf

> Of agirlnamedsuess21

> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 11:30 AM

> To:

> Subject: Re: I can't get my kid well!

>

> Doubtful it is cancer. You can put his mind at ease with that.

> children with autism (and especially with Down syndrome AND autism) have

> immune system problems. If your child is one that does not, then consider

> yourself VERY lucky.

> This would be a great opportunity to teach great handwashing skills (to the

> point of being OCD about it) and good germ control measures. Most kids do

> not know these things.

> For instance, we sneeze or cough, when possible, into our elbows. We wash,

> wash, wash our hands before we eat, after we come inside, etc...

> We change clothes when we come in from some place (and the clothes go to the

> laundry room right away and get washed). We take hand gel on the run with

> us...everywhere we go. We do NOT drink out of water fountains at

> all...EVER...if you only follow two things, it should be frequent

> handwashing and no water fountains. Also, we do not drink after each other;

> I am very adamant about this one. And we constantly work on keeping hands

> out of mouths (a difficult one, and you always hear me saying " get your

> hands out of your mouth " , as he is a hand chewer.)

> I absolutely became neurotic about germs and it has helped tremendously to

> keep my son well.

> And one other thing, it is very different to be exposed to your own family's

> germs (no need to keep an impeccably clean house) than to be exposed to

> other peoples germs. The way the doctor explained it to us was that our

> germs are in a controlled environment and everyone else's are not. Other's

> are exposed to innumerable amount of germs by the people they come into

> contact with everyday and those people and so on. When you limit the

> exposure and become OCD about germs in your own household (as far as

> handwashing and bringing outside germs in), then you will have a better hold

> on keeping your child well (until he can keep his ownself well *hopefully*

> when older and the immune system is more mature.)

>

>

>

>

> >

> > From: Lori <uccpowell@... <mailto:uccpowell%40tds.net> >

> > Subject: I can't get my kid well!

> > To: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>

> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>

> > Date: Tuesday, November 30, 2010, 12:48 PM

> >

> >

> >

> > Okay, advice on something seemingly ordinary. Isaac is not usually sick.

> >

> > He had a bad strep infection once when he was 5, had the red rash and

> >

> > everything. Since then a few sinus infections. not many. But this fall I

> >

> > can't get him well. The doctor has tested him for mono, strep and a UTI.

> >

> > His blood work shows some kind of infection but we can't find it. He is

> >

> > home at least once a week. The whole family got stuffy noses over

> >

> > Thanksgiving but we all had lots of vitamin C and went about our business

> >

> > yesterday. I sent Isaac to school and he had big problems (he wanted his

> >

> > own box of tissues and the teacher would not let him have them so he

> called

> >

> > the teacher an asshole). I am keeping him home today. Tried to get the

> >

> > school to see that his reactions was extreme and not typically Isaac but

> of

> >

> > course there will be big consequences for this. So here the rest of us are

> >

> > getting over our colds and Isaac has a fever. The strep test was done 4

> >

> > days ago so I can't take him back yet. But he has had a fever (on and off)

> >

> > and been out of sorts since September. The doctor said to think mono even

> >

> > though he did not test positive for mono. She said that some kids just get

> >

> > viral infections that take as long as mono. However, we are now well past

> >

> > the 6 week mark for a mono like illness.

> >

> > Anyone have a magic pill?

> >

> > Lori

> >

> > Mom to Isaac 13, and Tony 11

> >

> >

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If he is not well by Monday they will do another blood test. His first

blood test showed an infection but I couldn't get the nurse to tell me the

actual numbers. At the time, she couldn't pull up that screen. If there is

another blood test that is " bad " then I think they will begin to think

beyond just a general infection. I think he is right that something is

wrong and even though he " knows " things, he really doesn't know the

multitude of what could be wrong thus he picked cancer. But we will have to

start ruling out stuff soon.

I give a lot of credit to all you parents that have lived through operations

and a plethora of health problems. We have coasted along with just food

allergies and it has made me healthier so I have looked at that as a

blessing in disguise. I don't know how you all do it and work and stay sane

- other than that is the only choice there is. But kudos to all of you that

do.

The frustrating part is that Isaac is feeling so poorly he is really sassy -

he has given up calling people the a word and has substituted dummy but

there are three women teachers who absolutely do not tolerate this or accept

that it is because he isn't feeling well. They create all kinds of drama so

he says it again. I need him to get well before he completely alienates the

school. Yes, they should know better but I'm not interested in winning the

argument, I'm interested in Isaac having a successful 7th grade year.

He lasted an hour today and a few hours the other day. That is all the

schooling he has been able to get in this week. But at home he seems well

enough to go to school, not perfect but no fever, a slightly stuffy nose,

not anything else except the way he looks. So I send him and then he looks

even worse and acts terrible and I have to go get him. Today he said,

" school makes my inside guts hurt. " But he happily ate and played computer

games at home.

What if he's now allergic to something at school?

Sorry I'm worried and rambling.

Thanks for all the suggestions.

Lori

Mom to Isaac 13 and Tony 12

_____

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf

Of Cookson

Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 7:38 PM

To:

Subject: Re: Re: I can't get my kid well!

Lori, I think it's scary that he's asking about cancer. Have the Dr's done

any blood work that would rule it out? I'm sure you're right about him not

having anything else to relate to the way he's feeling.

I sure hope he feels better soon!!!

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 2, 2010, at 1:15 PM, " Lori " <uccpowell@...

<mailto:uccpowell%40tds.net> > wrote:

> Isaac is rarely sick - that's why I gave a bit of a history in the first

> post. This is a kid who is never sick, does not mouth anything, his being

> sick is not typical. Not by a long shot. I think the relevance of him

> asking us if he has cancer and is going to die is simply that he knows he

is

> not well and has no basis for understanding this.

>

> When Tony was first brought home he got a sore throat within days

(probably

> a new environment, he was never taken out of his foster home for outings)

> and he wouldn't speak to me. He was so mad because he thought I caused his

> sort throat. He would sign to Isaac that he wanted juice or food and Isaac

> would tell me. It was very cute. Now even Tony but certainly Isaac knows

> what it means to be sick and this time around, it is very confusing.

>

> We took out the carpeting in our house in May and my husband and I put in

a

> recycled oak floor. Is there a toxin somewhere that only became apparent

> when we had to close up the house for winter?

>

> This is the mystery.

>

> Lori

>

> _____

>

> From: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>

[mailto: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> ] On

Behalf

> Of agirlnamedsuess21

> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 11:30 AM

> To: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>

> Subject: Re: I can't get my kid well!

>

> Doubtful it is cancer. You can put his mind at ease with that.

> children with autism (and especially with Down syndrome AND autism) have

> immune system problems. If your child is one that does not, then consider

> yourself VERY lucky.

> This would be a great opportunity to teach great handwashing skills (to

the

> point of being OCD about it) and good germ control measures. Most kids do

> not know these things.

> For instance, we sneeze or cough, when possible, into our elbows. We wash,

> wash, wash our hands before we eat, after we come inside, etc...

> We change clothes when we come in from some place (and the clothes go to

the

> laundry room right away and get washed). We take hand gel on the run with

> us...everywhere we go. We do NOT drink out of water fountains at

> all...EVER...if you only follow two things, it should be frequent

> handwashing and no water fountains. Also, we do not drink after each

other;

> I am very adamant about this one. And we constantly work on keeping hands

> out of mouths (a difficult one, and you always hear me saying " get your

> hands out of your mouth " , as he is a hand chewer.)

> I absolutely became neurotic about germs and it has helped tremendously to

> keep my son well.

> And one other thing, it is very different to be exposed to your own

family's

> germs (no need to keep an impeccably clean house) than to be exposed to

> other peoples germs. The way the doctor explained it to us was that our

> germs are in a controlled environment and everyone else's are not. Other's

> are exposed to innumerable amount of germs by the people they come into

> contact with everyday and those people and so on. When you limit the

> exposure and become OCD about germs in your own household (as far as

> handwashing and bringing outside germs in), then you will have a better

hold

> on keeping your child well (until he can keep his ownself well *hopefully*

> when older and the immune system is more mature.)

>

>

>

>

> >

> > From: Lori <uccpowell@... <mailto:uccpowell%40tds.net> >

> > Subject: I can't get my kid well!

> > To: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>

<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>

> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>

> > Date: Tuesday, November 30, 2010, 12:48 PM

> >

> >

> >

> > Okay, advice on something seemingly ordinary. Isaac is not usually sick.

> >

> > He had a bad strep infection once when he was 5, had the red rash and

> >

> > everything. Since then a few sinus infections. not many. But this fall I

> >

> > can't get him well. The doctor has tested him for mono, strep and a UTI.

> >

> > His blood work shows some kind of infection but we can't find it. He is

> >

> > home at least once a week. The whole family got stuffy noses over

> >

> > Thanksgiving but we all had lots of vitamin C and went about our

business

> >

> > yesterday. I sent Isaac to school and he had big problems (he wanted his

> >

> > own box of tissues and the teacher would not let him have them so he

> called

> >

> > the teacher an asshole). I am keeping him home today. Tried to get the

> >

> > school to see that his reactions was extreme and not typically Isaac but

> of

> >

> > course there will be big consequences for this. So here the rest of us

are

> >

> > getting over our colds and Isaac has a fever. The strep test was done 4

> >

> > days ago so I can't take him back yet. But he has had a fever (on and

off)

> >

> > and been out of sorts since September. The doctor said to think mono

even

> >

> > though he did not test positive for mono. She said that some kids just

get

> >

> > viral infections that take as long as mono. However, we are now well

past

> >

> > the 6 week mark for a mono like illness.

> >

> > Anyone have a magic pill?

> >

> > Lori

> >

> > Mom to Isaac 13, and Tony 11

> >

> >

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Hi Lori,

I've been following your emails and responses and don't have any words of

wisdom. Only that I had gotten sick in October 2008. It started with

chills, a

low grade fever and a severe headache. My bloodwork showed liver numbers

through the roof. The PCP told me I had a virus and it would clear up on its

own. Three weeks later, I went back to him because I was not feeling well.Â

He

re-did the bloodwork and it was just as bad. He took a mono test which was

negative. He even did an HIV test, which of course was negative. My

endocrinologist even sent me for an abdominal ultrasound because my spleen was

hurting terribly. They also told me not to exercise or hit my left side

(location of spleen) or it could burst.

My PCP told me he could send me to an infectious disease specialist, but said

he

had seen this before and it would eventually clear up. He said there are

hundreds of viruses, many like mono, and even if we identified it, it would take

its course.

During this period, in addition to feeling sick all the time, I had all sorts of

fears about having some deadly disease. Not knowing what it was, was very

scary.  I can really sympathize with Isaac.  It must be very hard for a

kid.

Whatever I had, cleared up around Christmas 2008 (over 2 months).  I hope

that

Isaac's illness clears up soon.

Irene

sister to , mosaic DS, ASD, 40+

________________________________

To:

Sent: Thu, December 2, 2010 8:18:31 PM

Subject: RE: Re: I can't get my kid well!

Â

If he is not well by Monday they will do another blood test. His first

blood test showed an infection but I couldn't get the nurse to tell me the

actual numbers. At the time, she couldn't pull up that screen. If there is

another blood test that is " bad " then I think they will begin to think

beyond just a general infection. I think he is right that something is

wrong and even though he " knows " things, he really doesn't know the

multitude of what could be wrong thus he picked cancer. But we will have to

start ruling out stuff soon.

I give a lot of credit to all you parents that have lived through operations

and a plethora of health problems. We have coasted along with just food

allergies and it has made me healthier so I have looked at that as a

blessing in disguise. I don't know how you all do it and work and stay sane

- other than that is the only choice there is. But kudos to all of you that

do.

The frustrating part is that Isaac is feeling so poorly he is really sassy -

he has given up calling people the a word and has substituted dummy but

there are three women teachers who absolutely do not tolerate this or accept

that it is because he isn't feeling well. They create all kinds of drama so

he says it again. I need him to get well before he completely alienates the

school. Yes, they should know better but I'm not interested in winning the

argument, I'm interested in Isaac having a successful 7th grade year.

He lasted an hour today and a few hours the other day. That is all the

schooling he has been able to get in this week. But at home he seems well

enough to go to school, not perfect but no fever, a slightly stuffy nose,

not anything else except the way he looks. So I send him and then he looks

even worse and acts terrible and I have to go get him. Today he said,

" school makes my inside guts hurt. " But he happily ate and played computer

games at home.

What if he's now allergic to something at school?

Sorry I'm worried and rambling.

Thanks for all the suggestions.

Lori

Mom to Isaac 13 and Tony 12

_____

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf

Of Cookson

Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 7:38 PM

To:

Subject: Re: Re: I can't get my kid well!

Lori, I think it's scary that he's asking about cancer. Have the Dr's done

any blood work that would rule it out? I'm sure you're right about him not

having anything else to relate to the way he's feeling.

I sure hope he feels better soon!!!

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 2, 2010, at 1:15 PM, " Lori " <uccpowell@...

<mailto:uccpowell%40tds.net> > wrote:

> Isaac is rarely sick - that's why I gave a bit of a history in the first

> post. This is a kid who is never sick, does not mouth anything, his being

> sick is not typical. Not by a long shot. I think the relevance of him

> asking us if he has cancer and is going to die is simply that he knows he

is

> not well and has no basis for understanding this.

>

> When Tony was first brought home he got a sore throat within days

(probably

> a new environment, he was never taken out of his foster home for outings)

> and he wouldn't speak to me. He was so mad because he thought I caused his

> sort throat. He would sign to Isaac that he wanted juice or food and Isaac

> would tell me. It was very cute. Now even Tony but certainly Isaac knows

> what it means to be sick and this time around, it is very confusing.

>

> We took out the carpeting in our house in May and my husband and I put in

a

> recycled oak floor. Is there a toxin somewhere that only became apparent

> when we had to close up the house for winter?

>

> This is the mystery.

>

> Lori

>

> _____

>

> From: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>

[mailto: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> ] On

Behalf

> Of agirlnamedsuess21

> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 11:30 AM

> To: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>

> Subject: Re: I can't get my kid well!

>

> Doubtful it is cancer. You can put his mind at ease with that.

> children with autism (and especially with Down syndrome AND autism) have

> immune system problems. If your child is one that does not, then consider

> yourself VERY lucky.

> This would be a great opportunity to teach great handwashing skills (to

the

> point of being OCD about it) and good germ control measures. Most kids do

> not know these things.

> For instance, we sneeze or cough, when possible, into our elbows. We wash,

> wash, wash our hands before we eat, after we come inside, etc...

> We change clothes when we come in from some place (and the clothes go to

the

> laundry room right away and get washed). We take hand gel on the run with

> us...everywhere we go. We do NOT drink out of water fountains at

> all...EVER...if you only follow two things, it should be frequent

> handwashing and no water fountains. Also, we do not drink after each

other;

> I am very adamant about this one. And we constantly work on keeping hands

> out of mouths (a difficult one, and you always hear me saying " get your

> hands out of your mouth " , as he is a hand chewer.)

> I absolutely became neurotic about germs and it has helped tremendously to

> keep my son well.

> And one other thing, it is very different to be exposed to your own

family's

> germs (no need to keep an impeccably clean house) than to be exposed to

> other peoples germs. The way the doctor explained it to us was that our

> germs are in a controlled environment and everyone else's are not. Other's

> are exposed to innumerable amount of germs by the people they come into

> contact with everyday and those people and so on. When you limit the

> exposure and become OCD about germs in your own household (as far as

> handwashing and bringing outside germs in), then you will have a better

hold

> on keeping your child well (until he can keep his ownself well *hopefully*

> when older and the immune system is more mature.)

>

>

>

>

> >

> > From: Lori <uccpowell@... <mailto:uccpowell%40tds.net> >

> > Subject: I can't get my kid well!

> > To: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>

<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>

> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>

> > Date: Tuesday, November 30, 2010, 12:48 PM

> >

> >

> >

> > Okay, advice on something seemingly ordinary. Isaac is not usually sick.

> >

> > He had a bad strep infection once when he was 5, had the red rash and

> >

> > everything. Since then a few sinus infections. not many. But this fall I

> >

> > can't get him well. The doctor has tested him for mono, strep and a UTI.

> >

> > His blood work shows some kind of infection but we can't find it. He is

> >

> > home at least once a week. The whole family got stuffy noses over

> >

> > Thanksgiving but we all had lots of vitamin C and went about our

business

> >

> > yesterday. I sent Isaac to school and he had big problems (he wanted his

> >

> > own box of tissues and the teacher would not let him have them so he

> called

> >

> > the teacher an asshole). I am keeping him home today. Tried to get the

> >

> > school to see that his reactions was extreme and not typically Isaac but

> of

> >

> > course there will be big consequences for this. So here the rest of us

are

> >

> > getting over our colds and Isaac has a fever. The strep test was done 4

> >

> > days ago so I can't take him back yet. But he has had a fever (on and

off)

> >

> > and been out of sorts since September. The doctor said to think mono

even

> >

> > though he did not test positive for mono. She said that some kids just

get

> >

> > viral infections that take as long as mono. However, we are now well

past

> >

> > the 6 week mark for a mono like illness.

> >

> > Anyone have a magic pill?

> >

> > Lori

> >

> > Mom to Isaac 13, and Tony 11

> >

> >

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Lori, my older son was actually allergic to his classroom years ago. I would

send him to school perfectly fine and within a few hours his eyes were swollen

like golf balls. I would take him home and within an hour he was fine. He

attended a parochial school and at the time the nuns thought it was a hoot. A

student actually allergic to school. They ended up changing classrooms and for

some unknown reason he was perfectly fine. I would guess that Isaac may say his

gut hurts because he may be nervous at school with these three staff people. If

you have butterflies in your stomach or something like that he may only be able

to say that his gut hurts. He may not be able to keep it together at school not

feeling up to par. Even though Zeb has good speech, I have to read between the

lines with him when he seems to be under stress at school. Do you think that

having that added stress could be a factor in his not getting well sooner? I

think any could be possible.

It's just something to consider. I think out of the box so often that I am not

certain if I know the norm any longer.

Charlyne

Mom to Zeb 17 DS

> Isaac is rarely sick - that's why I gave a bit of a history in the first

> post. This is a kid who is never sick, does not mouth anything, his being

> sick is not typical. Not by a long shot. I think the relevance of him

> asking us if he has cancer and is going to die is simply that he knows he

is

> not well and has no basis for understanding this.

>

> When Tony was first brought home he got a sore throat within days

(probably

> a new environment, he was never taken out of his foster home for outings)

> and he wouldn't speak to me. He was so mad because he thought I caused his

> sort throat. He would sign to Isaac that he wanted juice or food and Isaac

> would tell me. It was very cute. Now even Tony but certainly Isaac knows

> what it means to be sick and this time around, it is very confusing.

>

> We took out the carpeting in our house in May and my husband and I put in

a

> recycled oak floor. Is there a toxin somewhere that only became apparent

> when we had to close up the house for winter?

>

> This is the mystery.

>

> Lori

>

> _____

>

> From: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>

[mailto: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> ] On

Behalf

> Of agirlnamedsuess21

> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 11:30 AM

> To: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>

> Subject: Re: I can't get my kid well!

>

> Doubtful it is cancer. You can put his mind at ease with that.

> children with autism (and especially with Down syndrome AND autism) have

> immune system problems. If your child is one that does not, then consider

> yourself VERY lucky.

> This would be a great opportunity to teach great handwashing skills (to

the

> point of being OCD about it) and good germ control measures. Most kids do

> not know these things.

> For instance, we sneeze or cough, when possible, into our elbows. We wash,

> wash, wash our hands before we eat, after we come inside, etc...

> We change clothes when we come in from some place (and the clothes go to

the

> laundry room right away and get washed). We take hand gel on the run with

> us...everywhere we go. We do NOT drink out of water fountains at

> all...EVER...if you only follow two things, it should be frequent

> handwashing and no water fountains. Also, we do not drink after each

other;

> I am very adamant about this one. And we constantly work on keeping hands

> out of mouths (a difficult one, and you always hear me saying " get your

> hands out of your mouth " , as he is a hand chewer.)

> I absolutely became neurotic about germs and it has helped tremendously to

> keep my son well.

> And one other thing, it is very different to be exposed to your own

family's

> germs (no need to keep an impeccably clean house) than to be exposed to

> other peoples germs. The way the doctor explained it to us was that our

> germs are in a controlled environment and everyone else's are not. Other's

> are exposed to innumerable amount of germs by the people they come into

> contact with everyday and those people and so on. When you limit the

> exposure and become OCD about germs in your own household (as far as

> handwashing and bringing outside germs in), then you will have a better

hold

> on keeping your child well (until he can keep his ownself well *hopefully*

> when older and the immune system is more mature.)

>

>

>

>

> >

> > From: Lori <uccpowell@... <mailto:uccpowell%40tds.net> >

> > Subject: I can't get my kid well!

> > To: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>

<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>

> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>

> > Date: Tuesday, November 30, 2010, 12:48 PM

> >

> >

> >

> > Okay, advice on something seemingly ordinary. Isaac is not usually sick.

> >

> > He had a bad strep infection once when he was 5, had the red rash and

> >

> > everything. Since then a few sinus infections. not many. But this fall I

> >

> > can't get him well. The doctor has tested him for mono, strep and a UTI.

> >

> > His blood work shows some kind of infection but we can't find it. He is

> >

> > home at least once a week. The whole family got stuffy noses over

> >

> > Thanksgiving but we all had lots of vitamin C and went about our

business

> >

> > yesterday. I sent Isaac to school and he had big problems (he wanted his

> >

> > own box of tissues and the teacher would not let him have them so he

> called

> >

> > the teacher an asshole). I am keeping him home today. Tried to get the

> >

> > school to see that his reactions was extreme and not typically Isaac but

> of

> >

> > course there will be big consequences for this. So here the rest of us

are

> >

> > getting over our colds and Isaac has a fever. The strep test was done 4

> >

> > days ago so I can't take him back yet. But he has had a fever (on and

off)

> >

> > and been out of sorts since September. The doctor said to think mono

even

> >

> > though he did not test positive for mono. She said that some kids just

get

> >

> > viral infections that take as long as mono. However, we are now well

past

> >

> > the 6 week mark for a mono like illness.

> >

> > Anyone have a magic pill?

> >

> > Lori

> >

> > Mom to Isaac 13, and Tony 11

> >

> >

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Maybe he's allergic to his a**hole teachers??? Sounds like he's very stressed

at school. Stress can make a sick kid sicker, or a well kid feel sick. Seventh

grade is a *tough* year for everyone. He's mainstreamed, right? Is anyone

picking on him or anything?? Are the kids including him, does he have people to

sit with at lunchtime??

Sorry if I'm barking up the wrong tree.

Sent from my iPhone

> If he is not well by Monday they will do another blood test. His first

> blood test showed an infection but I couldn't get the nurse to tell me the

> actual numbers. At the time, she couldn't pull up that screen. If there is

> another blood test that is " bad " then I think they will begin to think

> beyond just a general infection. I think he is right that something is

> wrong and even though he " knows " things, he really doesn't know the

> multitude of what could be wrong thus he picked cancer. But we will have to

> start ruling out stuff soon.

>

> I give a lot of credit to all you parents that have lived through operations

> and a plethora of health problems. We have coasted along with just food

> allergies and it has made me healthier so I have looked at that as a

> blessing in disguise. I don't know how you all do it and work and stay sane

> - other than that is the only choice there is. But kudos to all of you that

> do.

>

> The frustrating part is that Isaac is feeling so poorly he is really sassy -

> he has given up calling people the a word and has substituted dummy but

> there are three women teachers who absolutely do not tolerate this or accept

> that it is because he isn't feeling well. They create all kinds of drama so

> he says it again. I need him to get well before he completely alienates the

> school. Yes, they should know better but I'm not interested in winning the

> argument, I'm interested in Isaac having a successful 7th grade year.

>

> He lasted an hour today and a few hours the other day. That is all the

> schooling he has been able to get in this week. But at home he seems well

> enough to go to school, not perfect but no fever, a slightly stuffy nose,

> not anything else except the way he looks. So I send him and then he looks

> even worse and acts terrible and I have to go get him. Today he said,

> " school makes my inside guts hurt. " But he happily ate and played computer

> games at home.

>

> What if he's now allergic to something at school?

>

> Sorry I'm worried and rambling.

>

> Thanks for all the suggestions.

>

> Lori

>

> Mom to Isaac 13 and Tony 12

>

> _____

>

> From: [mailto: ] On Behalf

> Of Cookson

> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 7:38 PM

> To:

> Subject: Re: Re: I can't get my kid well!

>

> Lori, I think it's scary that he's asking about cancer. Have the Dr's done

> any blood work that would rule it out? I'm sure you're right about him not

> having anything else to relate to the way he's feeling.

>

> I sure hope he feels better soon!!!

>

>

>

> Sent from my iPhone

>

> On Dec 2, 2010, at 1:15 PM, " Lori " <uccpowell@...

> <mailto:uccpowell%40tds.net> > wrote:

>

> > Isaac is rarely sick - that's why I gave a bit of a history in the first

> > post. This is a kid who is never sick, does not mouth anything, his being

> > sick is not typical. Not by a long shot. I think the relevance of him

> > asking us if he has cancer and is going to die is simply that he knows he

> is

> > not well and has no basis for understanding this.

> >

> > When Tony was first brought home he got a sore throat within days

> (probably

> > a new environment, he was never taken out of his foster home for outings)

> > and he wouldn't speak to me. He was so mad because he thought I caused his

> > sort throat. He would sign to Isaac that he wanted juice or food and Isaac

> > would tell me. It was very cute. Now even Tony but certainly Isaac knows

> > what it means to be sick and this time around, it is very confusing.

> >

> > We took out the carpeting in our house in May and my husband and I put in

> a

> > recycled oak floor. Is there a toxin somewhere that only became apparent

> > when we had to close up the house for winter?

> >

> > This is the mystery.

> >

> > Lori

> >

> > _____

> >

> > From: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>

> [mailto: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> ] On

> Behalf

> > Of agirlnamedsuess21

> > Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 11:30 AM

> > To: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>

> > Subject: Re: I can't get my kid well!

> >

> > Doubtful it is cancer. You can put his mind at ease with that.

> > children with autism (and especially with Down syndrome AND autism) have

> > immune system problems. If your child is one that does not, then consider

> > yourself VERY lucky.

> > This would be a great opportunity to teach great handwashing skills (to

> the

> > point of being OCD about it) and good germ control measures. Most kids do

> > not know these things.

> > For instance, we sneeze or cough, when possible, into our elbows. We wash,

> > wash, wash our hands before we eat, after we come inside, etc...

> > We change clothes when we come in from some place (and the clothes go to

> the

> > laundry room right away and get washed). We take hand gel on the run with

> > us...everywhere we go. We do NOT drink out of water fountains at

> > all...EVER...if you only follow two things, it should be frequent

> > handwashing and no water fountains. Also, we do not drink after each

> other;

> > I am very adamant about this one. And we constantly work on keeping hands

> > out of mouths (a difficult one, and you always hear me saying " get your

> > hands out of your mouth " , as he is a hand chewer.)

> > I absolutely became neurotic about germs and it has helped tremendously to

> > keep my son well.

> > And one other thing, it is very different to be exposed to your own

> family's

> > germs (no need to keep an impeccably clean house) than to be exposed to

> > other peoples germs. The way the doctor explained it to us was that our

> > germs are in a controlled environment and everyone else's are not. Other's

> > are exposed to innumerable amount of germs by the people they come into

> > contact with everyday and those people and so on. When you limit the

> > exposure and become OCD about germs in your own household (as far as

> > handwashing and bringing outside germs in), then you will have a better

> hold

> > on keeping your child well (until he can keep his ownself well *hopefully*

> > when older and the immune system is more mature.)

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> > > From: Lori <uccpowell@... <mailto:uccpowell%40tds.net> >

> > > Subject: I can't get my kid well!

> > > To: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>

> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>

> > <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>

> > > Date: Tuesday, November 30, 2010, 12:48 PM

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Okay, advice on something seemingly ordinary. Isaac is not usually sick.

> > >

> > > He had a bad strep infection once when he was 5, had the red rash and

> > >

> > > everything. Since then a few sinus infections. not many. But this fall I

> > >

> > > can't get him well. The doctor has tested him for mono, strep and a UTI.

> > >

> > > His blood work shows some kind of infection but we can't find it. He is

> > >

> > > home at least once a week. The whole family got stuffy noses over

> > >

> > > Thanksgiving but we all had lots of vitamin C and went about our

> business

> > >

> > > yesterday. I sent Isaac to school and he had big problems (he wanted his

> > >

> > > own box of tissues and the teacher would not let him have them so he

> > called

> > >

> > > the teacher an asshole). I am keeping him home today. Tried to get the

> > >

> > > school to see that his reactions was extreme and not typically Isaac but

> > of

> > >

> > > course there will be big consequences for this. So here the rest of us

> are

> > >

> > > getting over our colds and Isaac has a fever. The strep test was done 4

> > >

> > > days ago so I can't take him back yet. But he has had a fever (on and

> off)

> > >

> > > and been out of sorts since September. The doctor said to think mono

> even

> > >

> > > though he did not test positive for mono. She said that some kids just

> get

> > >

> > > viral infections that take as long as mono. However, we are now well

> past

> > >

> > > the 6 week mark for a mono like illness.

> > >

> > > Anyone have a magic pill?

> > >

> > > Lori

> > >

> > > Mom to Isaac 13, and Tony 11

> > >

> > >

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I think you are absolutely right and I tried to say this at the IEP meeting

yesterday. The teacher has her back up so she doesn't want to admit this

may be true. They also keep saying that 7th graders get sluggish and surly

and this is just a phase. It is very frustrating because I sent Isaac to

school this fall in the best condition he has ever been in. He looked so

good they took away all of his supports. They don't want to admit this is

why he crashed. If he had been supported I think he would do a better job

of telling us how he feels.

I was thinking of Irene's situation and how our kids - at least mine, really

need to feel emotional support in order to be independent. My DH, (God

Bless Him) made a comment yesterday at the IEP saying, " it says right here

that Isaac is supposed to be able to go to a trusted adult when he needs to.

He hasn't had one all year. " And finally a light bulb went off for the IEP

team.

I truly believe that our kids are vulnerable in atypical ways. In a way it

is a blessing - the whole needing people thing - on the other hand middle

school doesn't really practice interdependence.

I think your normal. :-)

Lori

_____

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf

Of charlyne1121@...

Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 10:26 PM

To:

Subject: RE: Re: I can't get my kid well!

Lori, my older son was actually allergic to his classroom years ago. I would

send him to school perfectly fine and within a few hours his eyes were

swollen like golf balls. I would take him home and within an hour he was

fine. He attended a parochial school and at the time the nuns thought it was

a hoot. A student actually allergic to school. They ended up changing

classrooms and for some unknown reason he was perfectly fine. I would guess

that Isaac may say his gut hurts because he may be nervous at school with

these three staff people. If you have butterflies in your stomach or

something like that he may only be able to say that his gut hurts. He may

not be able to keep it together at school not feeling up to par. Even though

Zeb has good speech, I have to read between the lines with him when he seems

to be under stress at school. Do you think that having that added stress

could be a factor in his not getting well sooner? I think any could be

possible.

It's just something to consider. I think out of the box so often that I am

not certain if I know the norm any longer.

Charlyne

Mom to Zeb 17 DS

> Isaac is rarely sick - that's why I gave a bit of a history in the first

> post. This is a kid who is never sick, does not mouth anything, his being

> sick is not typical. Not by a long shot. I think the relevance of him

> asking us if he has cancer and is going to die is simply that he knows he

is

> not well and has no basis for understanding this.

>

> When Tony was first brought home he got a sore throat within days

(probably

> a new environment, he was never taken out of his foster home for outings)

> and he wouldn't speak to me. He was so mad because he thought I caused his

> sort throat. He would sign to Isaac that he wanted juice or food and Isaac

> would tell me. It was very cute. Now even Tony but certainly Isaac knows

> what it means to be sick and this time around, it is very confusing.

>

> We took out the carpeting in our house in May and my husband and I put in

a

> recycled oak floor. Is there a toxin somewhere that only became apparent

> when we had to close up the house for winter?

>

> This is the mystery.

>

> Lori

>

> _____

>

> From: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>

<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>

[mailto: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>

<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> ] On

Behalf

> Of agirlnamedsuess21

> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 11:30 AM

> To: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>

<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>

> Subject: Re: I can't get my kid well!

>

> Doubtful it is cancer. You can put his mind at ease with that.

> children with autism (and especially with Down syndrome AND autism) have

> immune system problems. If your child is one that does not, then consider

> yourself VERY lucky.

> This would be a great opportunity to teach great handwashing skills (to

the

> point of being OCD about it) and good germ control measures. Most kids do

> not know these things.

> For instance, we sneeze or cough, when possible, into our elbows. We wash,

> wash, wash our hands before we eat, after we come inside, etc...

> We change clothes when we come in from some place (and the clothes go to

the

> laundry room right away and get washed). We take hand gel on the run with

> us...everywhere we go. We do NOT drink out of water fountains at

> all...EVER...if you only follow two things, it should be frequent

> handwashing and no water fountains. Also, we do not drink after each

other;

> I am very adamant about this one. And we constantly work on keeping hands

> out of mouths (a difficult one, and you always hear me saying " get your

> hands out of your mouth " , as he is a hand chewer.)

> I absolutely became neurotic about germs and it has helped tremendously to

> keep my son well.

> And one other thing, it is very different to be exposed to your own

family's

> germs (no need to keep an impeccably clean house) than to be exposed to

> other peoples germs. The way the doctor explained it to us was that our

> germs are in a controlled environment and everyone else's are not. Other's

> are exposed to innumerable amount of germs by the people they come into

> contact with everyday and those people and so on. When you limit the

> exposure and become OCD about germs in your own household (as far as

> handwashing and bringing outside germs in), then you will have a better

hold

> on keeping your child well (until he can keep his ownself well *hopefully*

> when older and the immune system is more mature.)

>

>

>

>

> >

> > From: Lori <uccpowell@... <mailto:uccpowell%40tds.net> >

> > Subject: I can't get my kid well!

> > To: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>

<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>

<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>

> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>

> > Date: Tuesday, November 30, 2010, 12:48 PM

> >

> >

> >

> > Okay, advice on something seemingly ordinary. Isaac is not usually sick.

> >

> > He had a bad strep infection once when he was 5, had the red rash and

> >

> > everything. Since then a few sinus infections. not many. But this fall I

> >

> > can't get him well. The doctor has tested him for mono, strep and a UTI.

> >

> > His blood work shows some kind of infection but we can't find it. He is

> >

> > home at least once a week. The whole family got stuffy noses over

> >

> > Thanksgiving but we all had lots of vitamin C and went about our

business

> >

> > yesterday. I sent Isaac to school and he had big problems (he wanted his

> >

> > own box of tissues and the teacher would not let him have them so he

> called

> >

> > the teacher an asshole). I am keeping him home today. Tried to get the

> >

> > school to see that his reactions was extreme and not typically Isaac but

> of

> >

> > course there will be big consequences for this. So here the rest of us

are

> >

> > getting over our colds and Isaac has a fever. The strep test was done 4

> >

> > days ago so I can't take him back yet. But he has had a fever (on and

off)

> >

> > and been out of sorts since September. The doctor said to think mono

even

> >

> > though he did not test positive for mono. She said that some kids just

get

> >

> > viral infections that take as long as mono. However, we are now well

past

> >

> > the 6 week mark for a mono like illness.

> >

> > Anyone have a magic pill?

> >

> > Lori

> >

> > Mom to Isaac 13, and Tony 11

> >

> >

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