Guest guest Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 Hailey has to have Heinz ketchup on everything. I would take it away but do not know what she will put on there stir fry, due to rice being dry. Fried potatoes, mashed potatoes, meat. All to dry. She has a very mild tomato allergy. I really want to take this away for a few weeks to see if any of this hyper type behavior stops. Any suggestions on a sauce or something that does not have gluten or casein in it? Keeping in mind spices send her up the wall. Which again is another reason I want her off the ketchup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 When we gave my son too many almond products, he developed an allergy to almonds (almond flour, almond milk ,alomnd cereal, almonds, etc...) According to my allergist everyone's body reacts to every food they eat; if you eat too much of one thing, your body reacts too much (hence the allergy). I guess that was his rendition of how allergic reactions occur or just maybe how it is. So, we removed almonds. You are right, you need to remove the ketchup and tomatoes. Try my honey mustard hollaindaise sauce: 2-3 parts mayo, 1 part mustard, a squeeze of honey or agave. Stir well. Good on broccoli and steamed veggies. Also good with chicken fingers. > > Hailey has to have Heinz ketchup on everything. I would take it away but do not > know what she will put on there stir fry, due to rice being dry. Fried potatoes, > mashed potatoes, meat. All to dry. She has a very mild tomato allergy. I > really want to take this away for a few weeks to see if any of this hyper type > behavior stops. Any suggestions on a sauce or something that does not have > gluten or casein in it? Keeping in mind spices send her up the wall. Which > again is another reason I want her off the ketchup. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 I'm trying to understand how the honey mustard mayo sauce is related to hollandaise (egg yolk-butter-lemon sauce)?? Is there a CF version of butter?? Sent from my iPhone On Oct 26, 2010, at 9:14 PM, " agirlnamedsuess21 " wrote: > When we gave my son too many almond products, he developed an allergy to almonds (almond flour, almond milk ,alomnd cereal, almonds, etc...) > According to my allergist everyone's body reacts to every food they eat; if you eat too much of one thing, your body reacts too much (hence the allergy). I guess that was his rendition of how allergic reactions occur or just maybe how it is. > So, we removed almonds. You are right, you need to remove the ketchup and tomatoes. > Try my honey mustard hollaindaise sauce: > 2-3 parts mayo, 1 part mustard, a squeeze of honey or agave. Stir well. Good on broccoli and steamed veggies. Also good with chicken fingers. > > > > > > > Hailey has to have Heinz ketchup on everything. I would take it away but do not > > know what she will put on there stir fry, due to rice being dry. Fried potatoes, > > mashed potatoes, meat. All to dry. She has a very mild tomato allergy. I > > really want to take this away for a few weeks to see if any of this hyper type > > behavior stops. Any suggestions on a sauce or something that does not have > > gluten or casein in it? Keeping in mind spices send her up the wall. Which > > again is another reason I want her off the ketchup. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 LOL . I think Sue said it is a mock hollandaise. Maybe because typically Mayo has eggs in it? Sigh, I'm still trying to figure out how everyone gets their kiddos to eat the stuff in the diets.... Kris > > > > > > Hailey has to have Heinz ketchup on everything. I would take it away but do not > > > know what she will put on there stir fry, due to rice being dry. Fried potatoes, > > > mashed potatoes, meat. All to dry. She has a very mild tomato allergy. I > > > really want to take this away for a few weeks to see if any of this hyper type > > > behavior stops. Any suggestions on a sauce or something that does not have > > > gluten or casein in it? Keeping in mind spices send her up the wall. Which > > > again is another reason I want her off the ketchup. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2010 Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 Thanks for the recipe ________________________________ To: Sent: Tue, October 26, 2010 11:51:43 PM Subject: Re: need to replace ketchup LOL . I think Sue said it is a mock hollandaise. Maybe because typically Mayo has eggs in it? Sigh, I'm still trying to figure out how everyone gets their kiddos to eat the stuff in the diets.... Kris > > > > > > Hailey has to have Heinz ketchup on everything. I would take it away but do >not > > > > know what she will put on there stir fry, due to rice being dry. Fried >potatoes, > > > > mashed potatoes, meat. All to dry. She has a very mild tomato allergy. I > > > really want to take this away for a few weeks to see if any of this hyper >type > > > > behavior stops. Any suggestions on a sauce or something that does not have > > > gluten or casein in it? Keeping in mind spices send her up the wall. Which > > > again is another reason I want her off the ketchup. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2010 Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 , yes if soy is not an issue you can use Earth Balance Natural buttery spread original. I buy it at Kroger and Whole Foods.Gluten free, lactose and casein free, vegan, non-gmo. You can also use Smart Squeeze nonfat margarine spread in a liquid form made by Smart Beat. Trans fat free, lactose and casein free, but that one they use corn instead of soy. I buy that at Meijer's grocer. Can't answer question about honey mustard but I buy mustard and real honey and make my own honey mustard spread. Cyndi B > > > > > > Hailey has to have Heinz ketchup on everything. I would take it away but do not > > > know what she will put on there stir fry, due to rice being dry. Fried potatoes, > > > mashed potatoes, meat. All to dry. She has a very mild tomato allergy. I > > > really want to take this away for a few weeks to see if any of this hyper type > > > behavior stops. Any suggestions on a sauce or something that does not have > > > gluten or casein in it? Keeping in mind spices send her up the wall. Which > > > again is another reason I want her off the ketchup. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2010 Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 I bought the Earth Balance used once and I lost her again. Mustard makes her nuts. I really do not know what kind of doctor to take her to. This food sensitivity issue started same time the other issues started, I sometimes wonder if the food issues are the root of the real problem. What part of the body is having the issue with the food. All doctors in the past brushed off the behavior changes with food. She really is down to eating very little that does not make her go down hill. Maybe, I just have not seen the right doctor or right type of doctor. I just feel if she did not have the food issues, she would sleep better, then mentally the entire day is better. If she does not react to foods a few days in a row, she sleeps, then in turn we have great days. For instance, Propel water is gluten free, she drank it a few weeks no problem, BAM! now she can not drink it or she is walking in circles and not sleeping, and crying. This happens with everything. I really want to pull my hair out. Girl in a plastic bubble, really. ________________________________ To: Sent: Wed, October 27, 2010 9:04:24 AM Subject: Re: need to replace ketchup , yes if soy is not an issue you can use Earth Balance Natural buttery spread original. I buy it at Kroger and Whole Foods.Gluten free, lactose and casein free, vegan, non-gmo. You can also use Smart Squeeze nonfat margarine spread in a liquid form made by Smart Beat. Trans fat free, lactose and casein free, but that one they use corn instead of soy. I buy that at Meijer's grocer. Can't answer question about honey mustard but I buy mustard and real honey and make my own honey mustard spread. Cyndi B > > > > > > Hailey has to have Heinz ketchup on everything. I would take it away but do >not > > > > know what she will put on there stir fry, due to rice being dry. Fried >potatoes, > > > > mashed potatoes, meat. All to dry. She has a very mild tomato allergy. I > > > really want to take this away for a few weeks to see if any of this hyper >type > > > > behavior stops. Any suggestions on a sauce or something that does not have > > > gluten or casein in it? Keeping in mind spices send her up the wall. Which > > > again is another reason I want her off the ketchup. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2010 Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 Maybe it really has Nothing to do with food and whatever she has just kind of comes and goes? I actually did think responded to the diet when we did it last summer and beginning of school. But, she would be good for a day (or half a day) then back to the fog, laughing, crying, stimming, etc....for no reason. I was strict with the diet. She ate the same things all the time, sometimes acting fine, sometimes not. I'm seeing the same reaction with this medication. Hope Hailey has a good day. > > > > > > > > Hailey has to have Heinz ketchup on everything. I would take it away but do > >not > > > > > > know what she will put on there stir fry, due to rice being dry. Fried > >potatoes, > > > > > > mashed potatoes, meat. All to dry. She has a very mild tomato allergy. I > > > > really want to take this away for a few weeks to see if any of this hyper > >type > > > > > > behavior stops. Any suggestions on a sauce or something that does not have > > > > > gluten or casein in it? Keeping in mind spices send her up the wall. Which > > > > > again is another reason I want her off the ketchup. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2010 Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 Yes, it is a mock hollaindaise that I grew up on. Actually, my mother only mixed the mayo and mustard. i put a little honey into it and make it a honey mustard type sauce. I have used agave also. I still do just the mayo-mustard though. To get your kids to eat the DIET--->>>> All you do if modify what you are used to eating. If he likes cheeseburgers, then you make a cheese burger that is GFCF. That is all. I do not really understand the difficulty with following the diet? At first, i freaked out also 9only because I was so used to cooking from a box or getting food from a fast food window). Now, I cook more. > > > > > > > > Hailey has to have Heinz ketchup on everything. I would take it away but do not > > > > know what she will put on there stir fry, due to rice being dry. Fried potatoes, > > > > mashed potatoes, meat. All to dry. She has a very mild tomato allergy. I > > > > really want to take this away for a few weeks to see if any of this hyper type > > > > behavior stops. Any suggestions on a sauce or something that does not have > > > > gluten or casein in it? Keeping in mind spices send her up the wall. Which > > > > again is another reason I want her off the ketchup. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2010 Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 The red and white container of Earth Balance is Soy free. They have three labels: Original, Organic, and Soy free. They also have sticks at whole foods. The hollaindaise I make does not have any butter or buttery spread. (Hence, I call my cookbook " SIMPLE GFCF COOKING " ) > > > > > > > > Hailey has to have Heinz ketchup on everything. I would take it away but do not > > > > know what she will put on there stir fry, due to rice being dry. Fried potatoes, > > > > mashed potatoes, meat. All to dry. She has a very mild tomato allergy. I > > > > really want to take this away for a few weeks to see if any of this hyper type > > > > behavior stops. Any suggestions on a sauce or something that does not have > > > > gluten or casein in it? Keeping in mind spices send her up the wall. Which > > > > again is another reason I want her off the ketchup. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2010 Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 Allergy and immune system issues are part of a major problem with our kiddos who have autism spectrum disorders. I think it is a MAJOR part of the very problem that makes them the way they are. (Gut-Brain connection) It is really a neuro-immune dysfunction problem, aggravated by all the things partaken. (Food, for instance) Sometimes, when you are down to a circumstance of eating only a food foods, then you need to think " outside the box " . When i say outside the box, I mean Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Mexican, Hungarian, etc.... Venture outside the " American Way " . Limiting foods will only cause allergies to those foods as well from being fed them all the time. Our allergist explained to us that all people have a reaction to every food you eat. (EVERY food). It is the way the body works. The thing is that you want as less of a negative reaction as possible. You want the child to grow and develop adequately and not have abnormal neurological behaviors. That said, you have to find a balance of foods. You must branch out now. You might have to reintroduce some little amounts of other foods that you have once found her allergic to. The trick is giving foods that do not require the body a lot of energy to break down into useful nutrients. There is a lady named s, who is a certified nutritionist. She has frequent FREE webinars on nutrition where she discusses GFCF diet, other types of diets, your specific needs and questions, rotation diets, and so forth. I strongly suggest that everyone sign up for one or two of her webinars. I learned a lot from this lady (even when I already *knew* a lot.)http://www.healthfulliving.org/julie/ http://campaign.r20.constantcontact.com/render?llr=8akq4yn6 & v=0015qcJ7P_42Yh2yIy\ p4Z9OA7qsUMf3wOOCYptCT7bPLecXoazhfp59UybR2d0SLjLYeo8fCD69xZdvaA8FmyJi0Hvov05pTqR\ tQ6zggi2A8NN2oFfYBERq4OWr7_qQkwGwfFAskcc3lzQylbZkyusMMeOWZFrOn6r9wBstvOotcgvrYZ2\ uyY4k5z8NzEF_B5uRL2tjTHddcfTMws0mCUXDbw%3D%3D > > > > > > > > Hailey has to have Heinz ketchup on everything. I would take it away but do > >not > > > > > > know what she will put on there stir fry, due to rice being dry. Fried > >potatoes, > > > > > > mashed potatoes, meat. All to dry. She has a very mild tomato allergy. I > > > > really want to take this away for a few weeks to see if any of this hyper > >type > > > > > > behavior stops. Any suggestions on a sauce or something that does not have > > > > > gluten or casein in it? Keeping in mind spices send her up the wall. Which > > > > > again is another reason I want her off the ketchup. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2010 Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 Thanks for the info, I know that eating the same thing will cause the allergy. That is what I am afraid of. So...I am going to venture away from American way like you said. I will get some cookbooks from the library. I know I have a gluten problem, my hands swell, really I feel pressure all over. Maybe, this change will motivate me to eat what I should. ________________________________ To: Sent: Wed, October 27, 2010 3:10:20 PM Subject: Re: need to replace ketchup Allergy and immune system issues are part of a major problem with our kiddos who have autism spectrum disorders. I think it is a MAJOR part of the very problem that makes them the way they are. (Gut-Brain connection) It is really a neuro-immune dysfunction problem, aggravated by all the things partaken. (Food, for instance) Sometimes, when you are down to a circumstance of eating only a food foods, then you need to think " outside the box " . When i say outside the box, I mean Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Mexican, Hungarian, etc.... Venture outside the " American Way " . Limiting foods will only cause allergies to those foods as well from being fed them all the time. Our allergist explained to us that all people have a reaction to every food you eat. (EVERY food). It is the way the body works. The thing is that you want as less of a negative reaction as possible. You want the child to grow and develop adequately and not have abnormal neurological behaviors. That said, you have to find a balance of foods. You must branch out now. You might have to reintroduce some little amounts of other foods that you have once found her allergic to. The trick is giving foods that do not require the body a lot of energy to break down into useful nutrients. There is a lady named s, who is a certified nutritionist. She has frequent FREE webinars on nutrition where she discusses GFCF diet, other types of diets, your specific needs and questions, rotation diets, and so forth. I strongly suggest that everyone sign up for one or two of her webinars. I learned a lot from this lady (even when I already *knew* a lot.)http://www.healthfulliving.org/julie/ http://campaign.r20.constantcontact.com/render?llr=8akq4yn6 & v=0015qcJ7P_42Yh2yIy\ p4Z9OA7qsUMf3wOOCYptCT7bPLecXoazhfp59UybR2d0SLjLYeo8fCD69xZdvaA8FmyJi0Hvov05pTqR\ tQ6zggi2A8NN2oFfYBERq4OWr7_qQkwGwfFAskcc3lzQylbZkyusMMeOWZFrOn6r9wBstvOotcgvrYZ2\ uyY4k5z8NzEF_B5uRL2tjTHddcfTMws0mCUXDbw%3D%3D > > > > > > > > Hailey has to have Heinz ketchup on everything. I would take it away but >do > > >not > > > > > > know what she will put on there stir fry, due to rice being dry. Fried > >potatoes, > > > > > > mashed potatoes, meat. All to dry. She has a very mild tomato allergy. I > > > > really want to take this away for a few weeks to see if any of this hyper > > >type > > > > > > behavior stops. Any suggestions on a sauce or something that does not >have > > > > > > gluten or casein in it? Keeping in mind spices send her up the wall. >Which > > > > > > again is another reason I want her off the ketchup. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2010 Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 I think the trouble is, some of our kids only eat what's in the box. I cook dinner (from scratch) most nights, and we have leftovers, too. But will only eat Tyson dinosaur-shaped nuggets. He will only eat frozen French toast sticks from a box. He won't eat any of the yummy homemade desserts that Annika and I make, but he wants a Yodel every single day. He wants the school hot dogs every day at school, exactly the same. Maybe that's why he prefers boxed foods...because when I cook the same recipe, it's never ever totally the same every time. I add a little more salt, a little extra cream. I may not notice the difference, but sure does. And it bothers him. A lot. To the point where he will not eat it. doesn't " recognize " his body's hunger signals and will melt down and become self-injurious out of hunger, before he realizes that his body needs food. If he doesn't want to eat it, he will not take a single bite. It drives me crazy when people say " kids won't let themselves starve " . Because some will. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 27, 2010, at 2:58 PM, " agirlnamedsuess21 " wrote: > Yes, it is a mock hollaindaise that I grew up on. Actually, my mother only mixed the mayo and mustard. i put a little honey into it and make it a honey mustard type sauce. I have used agave also. I still do just the mayo-mustard though. > To get your kids to eat the DIET--->>>> All you do if modify what you are used to eating. If he likes cheeseburgers, then you make a cheese burger that is GFCF. That is all. > I do not really understand the difficulty with following the diet? > At first, i freaked out also 9only because I was so used to cooking from a box or getting food from a fast food window). Now, I cook more. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hailey has to have Heinz ketchup on everything. I would take it away but do not > > > > > know what she will put on there stir fry, due to rice being dry. Fried potatoes, > > > > > mashed potatoes, meat. All to dry. She has a very mild tomato allergy. I > > > > > really want to take this away for a few weeks to see if any of this hyper type > > > > > behavior stops. Any suggestions on a sauce or something that does not have > > > > > gluten or casein in it? Keeping in mind spices send her up the wall. Which > > > > > again is another reason I want her off the ketchup. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2010 Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 Yes! Some kids truly will starve - Darwyn is one of them too. Sometimes I forget to make him drink something (he almost never requests milk or a drink) and I don't realize until he's throwing stuff and fussy, but he never indicates that he's actually thirsty! Also he refuses homebaked chocolate chip cookies (looks at me with disgust when I try), but will eat those Bear Paw ones. They are the same bland taste and texture every single time. Ugh. I think the special diets are great for some families, but don't work for others and that's okay. If there was only one way to " cure " autism or reduce the severity of certain symptoms we wouldn't need this list! This is a complex continuum and each of us needs to evaluate what works best for our families and children. Sharing our success is great, but noone here should feel badly if they decide not to try something or if it doesn't work for their family. Sent on the TELUS Mobility network with BlackBerry Re: Re: need to replace ketchup I think the trouble is, some of our kids only eat what's in the box. I cook dinner (from scratch) most nights, and we have leftovers, too. But will only eat Tyson dinosaur-shaped nuggets. He will only eat frozen French toast sticks from a box. He won't eat any of the yummy homemade desserts that Annika and I make, but he wants a Yodel every single day. He wants the school hot dogs every day at school, exactly the same. Maybe that's why he prefers boxed foods...because when I cook the same recipe, it's never ever totally the same every time. I add a little more salt, a little extra cream. I may not notice the difference, but sure does. And it bothers him. A lot. To the point where he will not eat it. doesn't " recognize " his body's hunger signals and will melt down and become self-injurious out of hunger, before he realizes that his body needs food. If he doesn't want to eat it, he will not take a single bite. It drives me crazy when people say " kids won't let themselves starve " . Because some will. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 27, 2010, at 2:58 PM, " agirlnamedsuess21 " wrote: > Yes, it is a mock hollaindaise that I grew up on. Actually, my mother only mixed the mayo and mustard. i put a little honey into it and make it a honey mustard type sauce. I have used agave also. I still do just the mayo-mustard though. > To get your kids to eat the DIET--->>>> All you do if modify what you are used to eating. If he likes cheeseburgers, then you make a cheese burger that is GFCF. That is all. > I do not really understand the difficulty with following the diet? > At first, i freaked out also 9only because I was so used to cooking from a box or getting food from a fast food window). Now, I cook more. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hailey has to have Heinz ketchup on everything. I would take it away but do not > > > > > know what she will put on there stir fry, due to rice being dry. Fried potatoes, > > > > > mashed potatoes, meat. All to dry. She has a very mild tomato allergy. I > > > > > really want to take this away for a few weeks to see if any of this hyper type > > > > > behavior stops. Any suggestions on a sauce or something that does not have > > > > > gluten or casein in it? Keeping in mind spices send her up the wall. Which > > > > > again is another reason I want her off the ketchup. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2010 Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 I make my own, too. But I do use store-bought balsamic vinaigrette...I know it's easy to make but (sigh) doesn't like homemade. My mom is a chef, she was a dessert-chef in a five-star restaurant and is very talented. For a while, she assumed that 's eating habits were laziness on my part. She made meal after meal for him, then when he refused to eat it (mixed textures are hard, he can't even look at lasagna without crying!) she'd try the guilt trip (I made this just for you) at which point we'd have a full-fledged meltdown. So then she tried having him name the ingredients. She didn't listen when I explained that will refuse foods that he's specifically asked for...sometimes he'll eat some but more than half the time it's " BLAAH!!! This is YUCK!!!! I can't eat this!!!! " . My mom was so offended, she gave up. We've been to nutritionists (yeah, adding butter only helps if the child EATS the food with added butter. does not...it's too much change). We've been through OT. He's bern on Prilosec for the past year. We've been to an eating behaviorist. She was helpful in identifying that we're dealing with extreme rigidity (OCD tendencies), sensory issues, and a very short attention span...he doesn't eat much of any food because he loses interest in eating very quickly. He's also very controlling (Asperger's). His visual issues make some foods physically difficult to eat, too. Mac n cheese, scrambled eggs, it's visually overwhelming for him. He can't get the food on his fork. Casseroles are a nightmare. He does like soups, though, especially if I partially purée them. We have soups at least once a week. He also eats my rice and beans, but I can only use white rice and I can't really add much spice. Salt, onions and garlic is fine, and he's gotten used to parsley too. My point is, it's really really hard. I'm happy to be at a point where we actually have some foods that I can make him that he'll eat. But when he can't stand the family dinners, I can send him to the fridge for a lunchables. Or I can make him a hot dog. A year ago, that wasn't possible. This is why a diet change seems so daunting. , my oldest, and Annika, they'd both complain a little but settle in. , well, so much depends on texture with him. But , I just don't know. Homework and feeding are both highly unpleasant with . But we are considering diet changes because a) he's getting a double scope next week to see if he has any inflammation in his gut... Which may mean a diet change. And when we took off chocolate milk, he stopped having potty accidents. He also lost any weight he'd gained in the past year! Sent from my iPhone On Oct 27, 2010, at 9:04 AM, " cynthiamiltonburns " wrote: > , yes if soy is not an issue you can use Earth Balance Natural buttery spread original. I buy it at Kroger and Whole Foods.Gluten free, lactose and casein free, vegan, non-gmo. You can also use Smart Squeeze nonfat margarine spread in a liquid form made by Smart Beat. Trans fat free, lactose and casein free, but that one they use corn instead of soy. I buy that at Meijer's grocer. Can't answer question about honey mustard but I buy mustard and real honey and make my own honey mustard spread. Cyndi B > > > > > > > > > > Hailey has to have Heinz ketchup on everything. I would take it away but do not > > > > know what she will put on there stir fry, due to rice being dry. Fried potatoes, > > > > mashed potatoes, meat. All to dry. She has a very mild tomato allergy. I > > > > really want to take this away for a few weeks to see if any of this hyper type > > > > behavior stops. Any suggestions on a sauce or something that does not have > > > > gluten or casein in it? Keeping in mind spices send her up the wall. Which > > > > again is another reason I want her off the ketchup. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2010 Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 Sue, maybe it is just DJ (as opposed to other kiddos)not accepting differences in food shape, texture, color and/or a new " unknown " food. That in itself is what I am referencing & is problematic to say the least regarding food pyramids/balanced diet in our house. For instance he cannot seem to orally process certain meats (like white chicken) or rice. He will not eat potatoes in any form except french fries (ff are new) He probably could eat his weight in sausage but with current weight issues foods like sausage are reserved for special occasions. He does not eat breads except for a hamburger bun. And the one piece of cinnamon whole wheat toast I got him to try just recently. He does not eat cookies & such or cereals. He ate his 1st scrambled egg this year at age 15! And would not have if I had not hand fed it to him the first time. He will only eat specific oatmeals or cream of wheat that do not contain " popcorn " (his word for crunchy we think) Ditto sauces or gravies except for tomato based. And I believe he would literally sit there until he & an unknown food became a petrified substance before he would eat it. Just tonight I offered him a piece of spinach pizza. He almost fell back-pedalling away from my offering while making loud pathetic noises. All because he could see the " green " on what HAS TO BE ONLY CHEESE pizza. He eats spinach. He eats cheese pizza. Go figure. Will I resort to forcing food into his mouth? Not in this or any lifetime. To understand the gfcf posts, I googled a few sites on the diets. From what I've read thus far nothing matches with DJ & most of the things I've already been doing all my adult life (ie:organic, no trans, etc). We rarely eat fast food & I cook from " scratch " every day now for the past 38 (groan) years.... The only diff from today & from my mother earth hippie younger years is that I'm not grinding my own or growing my own. LOL, & as my adult sons will annoyingly share with everyone, I actually do allow some " junk " into the house now via specific types of chips or ice cream products.... Those same sons who NEVER had fast food, junk, soft drinks or processed foods, white breads & were lean healthy beings. Who by the way are now chunky beings because of their current food preferences. Seems like 19 or so years of healthy diet choices did not carry over after all. Major fail..( Honestly, on a personal level, I'd rather do without than ever replace the olive oil, real butter or cheese I sparingly use with any fake alternatives. I just hope my DJ never develops a gluten or anything he currently ingests allergy. He'd be doomed because of his reaction to " different " . Kris > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2010 Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 It's crazy, isn't it? , you're probably the first person who has ever understood what I'm saying about my . is 7, is 48 " tall, and weighs 42#. That's below the bottom of the chart for weight. Ugh!!! (my son with DS/autism) is 5, at least a foot shorter than , and weighs 40#. They share some clothes. Meanwhile, my oldest is 9, is 55 " tall, and weighs 90#. He wears a size 12 in pants. He's big. And my daughter is a peanut, she weighs 33# (at 4) and is slightly taller than . The irony is, I used to think was a picky eater! He complained a lot. But, complain or not, he ATE what I made for him. It's a joke now that I've had in my life to think of 's token resistance as " picky " ! Sent from my iPhone > Yes! Some kids truly will starve - Darwyn is one of them too. Sometimes I forget to make him drink something (he almost never requests milk or a drink) and I don't realize until he's throwing stuff and fussy, but he never indicates that he's actually thirsty! Also he refuses homebaked chocolate chip cookies (looks at me with disgust when I try), but will eat those Bear Paw ones. They are the same bland taste and texture every single time. Ugh. > I think the special diets are great for some families, but don't work for others and that's okay. If there was only one way to " cure " autism or reduce the severity of certain symptoms we wouldn't need this list! This is a complex continuum and each of us needs to evaluate what works best for our families and children. Sharing our success is great, but noone here should feel badly if they decide not to try something or if it doesn't work for their family. > > Sent on the TELUS Mobility network with BlackBerry > > Re: Re: need to replace ketchup > > I think the trouble is, some of our kids only eat what's in the box. I cook dinner (from scratch) most nights, and we have leftovers, too. But will only eat Tyson dinosaur-shaped nuggets. He will only eat frozen French toast sticks from a box. He won't eat any of the yummy homemade desserts that Annika and I make, but he wants a Yodel every single day. He wants the school hot dogs every day at school, exactly the same. Maybe that's why he prefers boxed foods...because when I cook the same recipe, it's never ever totally the same every time. I add a little more salt, a little extra cream. I may not notice the difference, but sure does. And it bothers him. A lot. To the point where he will not eat it. doesn't " recognize " his body's hunger signals and will melt down and become self-injurious out of hunger, before he realizes that his body needs food. If he doesn't want to eat it, he will not take a single bite. > > It drives me crazy when people say " kids won't let themselves starve " . Because some will. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 27, 2010, at 2:58 PM, " agirlnamedsuess21 " wrote: > > > Yes, it is a mock hollaindaise that I grew up on. Actually, my mother only mixed the mayo and mustard. i put a little honey into it and make it a honey mustard type sauce. I have used agave also. I still do just the mayo-mustard though. > > To get your kids to eat the DIET--->>>> All you do if modify what you are used to eating. If he likes cheeseburgers, then you make a cheese burger that is GFCF. That is all. > > I do not really understand the difficulty with following the diet? > > At first, i freaked out also 9only because I was so used to cooking from a box or getting food from a fast food window). Now, I cook more. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hailey has to have Heinz ketchup on everything. I would take it away but do not > > > > > > know what she will put on there stir fry, due to rice being dry. Fried potatoes, > > > > > > mashed potatoes, meat. All to dry. She has a very mild tomato allergy. I > > > > > > really want to take this away for a few weeks to see if any of this hyper type > > > > > > behavior stops. Any suggestions on a sauce or something that does not have > > > > > > gluten or casein in it? Keeping in mind spices send her up the wall. Which > > > > > > again is another reason I want her off the ketchup. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2010 Report Share Posted October 28, 2010 , My arthritis went away I eliminated casein from my diet. > > > > > > > > > > Hailey has to have Heinz ketchup on everything. I would take it away but > >do > > > > >not > > > > > > > > know what she will put on there stir fry, due to rice being dry. Fried > > >potatoes, > > > > > > > > mashed potatoes, meat. All to dry. She has a very mild tomato allergy. I > > > > > > really want to take this away for a few weeks to see if any of this hyper > > > > >type > > > > > > > > behavior stops. Any suggestions on a sauce or something that does not > >have > > > > > > > > > gluten or casein in it? Keeping in mind spices send her up the wall. > >Which > > > > > > > > > again is another reason I want her off the ketchup. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2010 Report Share Posted October 28, 2010 It is all in the upbringing. Raise a child in the way he should go, and when he gets older he will not depart from it. He is used to you getting the boxes. He did not just wake up one day and decide he would not eat any other chicken nuggets except the dinosaur-shaped ones from Tyson. You trained him to like those by purchasing them. So, now, if you want to change that, then you have to stop buying those and retrain him. Another idea is stop taking him to the grocery store with you. > > > > > > > > > > > > Hailey has to have Heinz ketchup on everything. I would take it away but do not > > > > > > know what she will put on there stir fry, due to rice being dry. Fried potatoes, > > > > > > mashed potatoes, meat. All to dry. She has a very mild tomato allergy. I > > > > > > really want to take this away for a few weeks to see if any of this hyper type > > > > > > behavior stops. Any suggestions on a sauce or something that does not have > > > > > > gluten or casein in it? Keeping in mind spices send her up the wall. Which > > > > > > again is another reason I want her off the ketchup. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2010 Report Share Posted October 28, 2010 We do not go out to eat and we do not eat from other's houses plus they are homeschooled. I know everything my children eat. My kids have always *known* that mama is the source for food. (Stims from breastfeeding when younger, I suppose.) Mama cooks for the entire family. There have been one or two instances that the boys do not eat everything I have cooked, but do I stop cooking that? NO. They eat the other things. For instance when I make meatloaf and maashed potatoes with green beans, they do not like the mashed potatoes. That is okay. They are not starving. I feel sorry for those stuck in a rut of packaged food and boxes (those who have trained their children to eat junk <--- so sorry to call it that, but it is what it is). Our society has become a microwave and fast food society. Luckily, I did not have much trouble changing from this because we did not eat fast food that often (due to lack of funds to do so) and my boys never ate the Healthy Choice frozen dinners I used to eat. Everything they ate, I had to make for them. For all of my children when they were smaller and ate some stuff from baby food jars, it became the same sort of transition similar to changing from baby food to regular table food. If your children demanded only breastmilk and baby food for the rest of their lives, would you continue giving it to them for fear they would starve otherwise? > > > > > > > > > > Hailey has to have Heinz ketchup on everything. I would take it away but do not > > > > > know what she will put on there stir fry, due to rice being dry. Fried potatoes, > > > > > mashed potatoes, meat. All to dry. She has a very mild tomato allergy. I > > > > > really want to take this away for a few weeks to see if any of this hyper type > > > > > behavior stops. Any suggestions on a sauce or something that does not have > > > > > gluten or casein in it? Keeping in mind spices send her up the wall. Which > > > > > again is another reason I want her off the ketchup. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2010 Report Share Posted October 28, 2010 Kris, All of our kids have food peculiarities. One of the reason this is: is because of all the junk they have been putting in (preservatives, GMO's, etc...). Another reason is because they do not recognize the food (much as you have described). One way to change this is to get them involved in preparing the meal. Also, you use food items they ARE familiar with in order to prepare a different food they are not used to. Studies show that children have to be offered a food mnay. many times (cannot rememeber if it was 10 or 11 or 21 times?) before they can really decide whether they like it or not. Another thing I have noticed is that if I set something on the table on a plate and began eating off of it (and enjoying the food visibly), then my younger boys would say they *want some*. It would certainly be cheaper and 8easoer* for me to just be able to cook anything fast , simple, uncomplicated, etc... for my family, but I soon learned that it was so unfair. Being on this diet has cured a lot of ailments not only with me, but also with my children. It gave my son with verbal apraxia his speech back. How can I go back to not caring so much what he eats? > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2010 Report Share Posted October 28, 2010 That is perfectly typical on the down syndrome chart. My son (MDS/Autism) is age 7 and wears size 6 clothes. He is around that height and weight. Seems typical to me. He is healthy (not sick) and is growing. You have to look not at pinpointed weight/heights in time, but in the medical field we look at a *growth chart* and how the child grows over a period of time. Every child's growth curve is different. For my almost 4 year-old, he was born weighing a whopping 8 pounds. He was a chunker. Between 4 and 6 months, he fell off the growth chart. He will be 4 on April 1st. Currently, he weighs(with clothes on) 26.10 pounds and his height is 35 3/8 tall. (He is going on 4.) He eats, but he is small. He may end up being the tallest and biggest person in the family. Most of the past two years, his plotted weight and height were NOT on a growth curve on the chart. He has just came back onto the *typical* growth curves; but he does have a growth curve and it has increased over time. We have seen GI doctors, allergists, and other specialists. My son is completely normal and healthy and he is at the bottom of the growth chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hailey has to have Heinz ketchup on everything. I would take it away but do not > > > > > > > know what she will put on there stir fry, due to rice being dry. Fried potatoes, > > > > > > > mashed potatoes, meat. All to dry. She has a very mild tomato allergy. I > > > > > > > really want to take this away for a few weeks to see if any of this hyper type > > > > > > > behavior stops. Any suggestions on a sauce or something that does not have > > > > > > > gluten or casein in it? Keeping in mind spices send her up the wall. Which > > > > > > > again is another reason I want her off the ketchup. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2010 Report Share Posted October 28, 2010 My son will be 11 in Dec. and he wears size 5 clothes and weighs 44 pounds. He has issues with malabsorption and failure to thrive. Beth ________________________________ To: Sent: Thu, October 28, 2010 10:30:14 AM Subject: Re: need to replace ketchup  That is perfectly typical on the down syndrome chart. My son (MDS/Autism) is age 7 and wears size 6 clothes. He is around that height and weight. Seems typical to me. He is healthy (not sick) and is growing. You have to look not at pinpointed weight/heights in time, but in the medical field we look at a *growth chart* and how the child grows over a period of time. Every child's growth curve is different. For my almost 4 year-old, he was born weighing a whopping 8 pounds. He was a chunker. Between 4 and 6 months, he fell off the growth chart. He will be 4 on April 1st. Currently, he weighs(with clothes on) 26.10 pounds and his height is 35 3/8 tall. (He is going on 4.) He eats, but he is small. He may end up being the tallest and biggest person in the family. Most of the past two years, his plotted weight and height were NOT on a growth curve on the chart. He has just came back onto the *typical* growth curves; but he does have a growth curve and it has increased over time. We have seen GI doctors, allergists, and other specialists. My son is completely normal and healthy and he is at the bottom of the growth chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hailey has to have Heinz ketchup on everything. I would take it >away but do not > > > > > > > > know what she will put on there stir fry, due to rice being dry. >Fried potatoes, > > > > > > > > mashed potatoes, meat. All to dry. She has a very mild tomato >allergy. I > > > > > > > > really want to take this away for a few weeks to see if any of this >hyper type > > > > > > > > behavior stops. Any suggestions on a sauce or something that does >not have > > > > > > > > gluten or casein in it? Keeping in mind spices send her up the >wall. Which > > > > > > > > again is another reason I want her off the ketchup. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2010 Report Share Posted October 28, 2010 Beth!! My son Wesley is 44 pounds and age 10 and wears size 5 or 6.... he has been given the diagnosis failure to thrive althugh he is full of energy and robust....wondering how you came to the malabsorption conclusion.... Wes does absorb fats based on his BMsies...they are not white and do not float... Annie 8:04 -0700 Subject: Re: Re: need to replace ketchup My son will be 11 in Dec. and he wears size 5 clothes and weighs 44 pounds. He has issues with malabsorption and failure to thrive. Beth __ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2010 Report Share Posted October 28, 2010 Hi , I remember you wrote about what a great and friendly list this is and I completely agree with you. Another thing I like about this group is that we are really really diverse which means we have so many different ways of raising our kids that we can all help each other with new ideas. When I read your email below, I thought to myself that you are a strong person who really knows what works well for your family. I've found that on this list we're all happier when we preface our emails with the words such as " in my opinion " or " this has worked for me and it might work for you " instead of telling each other that we " have to " do something or that it is a definite fact (even if I believe something is 100 percent true, on this list I qualify it because others don't believe the same thing and I value that). Its just small social cues that ensure others on the list aren't made to feel as though they have somehow done something wrong. We get so much of that out in the " real world " that we need this list to really be supportive and encouraging. Thanks, Sent on the TELUS Mobility network with BlackBerry Re: need to replace ketchup It is all in the upbringing. Raise a child in the way he should go, and when he gets older he will not depart from it. He is used to you getting the boxes. He did not just wake up one day and decide he would not eat any other chicken nuggets except the dinosaur-shaped ones from Tyson. You trained him to like those by purchasing them. So, now, if you want to change that, then you have to stop buying those and retrain him. Another idea is stop taking him to the grocery store with you. > > > > > > > > > > > > Hailey has to have Heinz ketchup on everything. I would take it away but do not > > > > > > know what she will put on there stir fry, due to rice being dry. Fried potatoes, > > > > > > mashed potatoes, meat. All to dry. She has a very mild tomato allergy. I > > > > > > really want to take this away for a few weeks to see if any of this hyper type > > > > > > behavior stops. Any suggestions on a sauce or something that does not have > > > > > > gluten or casein in it? Keeping in mind spices send her up the wall. Which > > > > > > again is another reason I want her off the ketchup. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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