Re: school nurses

[Guest guest]

I've made the same " mistake " of assuming staff at school communicate information

we think is important. I have a written one page sheet for substitutes that

seems to never get into their hands unless I give it to them. Sigh. The nurse

sounds like she needs to get friendly messages from you with direct instructions

regarding your son. Probably that she should call whenever he visits her and

tell you what's discussed. You may need to write this down or email her so its

more official.

She didn't sound like she was mean, just jaded from too many years of fakers

(although I'm not sure that catching fakers should be such a big concern) and

that she didn't know your son very well.

Best of luck -

, Mom to (age 10 NT) and Darwyn ( age 6 DS ASD and a few heart

surgeries)

, Canada

school nurses

My son Isaac is in 7th grade and typically he loves school. He wants to go

even when he is sick. I emailed his teacher last Wednesday to say that he

didn't look well but wanted to go to school (no temp, throat seemed normal

color) could she please call me and send him home if he became worse and

needed to come home. Didn't hear anything. Isaac has continued to look out

of it. Everyday since then I have checked him for temp and looked at his

throat. Kept him home from church yesterday DH and I are now thinking

seasonal allergies. Told him he didn't have to go to school today but since

he wanted to go, reminded him to tell someone if he needed to come home.

Get a call from the school nurse this afternoon. She is concerned that he

is coming to her office way too often doesn't ever believe it has been

legitimate wants to make a plan to stop this. I told her I was incredulous.

I said that twice, both today and last Wednesday I had told him to tell

someone if he needed to come home because he didn't feel good. Told her

that he has looked " funny " since last Wednesday and that I had emailed his

teacher to please call me if he needed to come home. I said he has never

faked it and instead asks to go to school even if he is sick. She said,

" well first he told me his stomach hurt. Then he said he also had a

headache and when I made him go back to class he said the furniture hurt his

body, then I knew he was faking it " . I sighed and said, " but now I know he

was telling the truth. He couldn't get you to listen to anything else so he

tried to explain that his body hurts. I can't believe you didn't call me " .

I can tell I took the wind out of her sails a bit because she thought she

was so smart to " catch " Isaac at faking it. I said that in the future if

Isaac comes in to her office, to please call me. I will pick him up and

determine if he is " faking " it. I emailed his special education teacher

who just doesn't want to get in the middle. Geez Louise! Do they have to

make it this hard on the kid?!

Any advice on this?

Lori

Mom to Isaac, 13 and Tony 11

[Guest guest]

Geez Lori, I had no idea that Zeb's middle school nurse transferred to your

area, excuse the sarcasm. I am on my 20 hr day work schedule and should be in

bed. I had the ped send a letter detailing that I should be called immediately

for any medical complaint. I did get called each time thereafter but with the

usual " he doesn't look sick to me " Zeb made a face after one of those comments

and she disturbed the principal that was in a meeting to let him know Zeb was

rude to her. I showed up at school just when the principla was screaming at him.

The ped removed him from school from the last 6 weeks of that school year. He

was transferring to the HS the following year. The HS nurse is ok.

Charlyne

Subject: school nurses

To:

Date: Monday, September 27, 2010, 8:54 PM

 

My son Isaac is in 7th grade and typically he loves school. He wants to go

even when he is sick. I emailed his teacher last Wednesday to say that he

didn't look well but wanted to go to school (no temp, throat seemed normal

color) could she please call me and send him home if he became worse and

needed to come home. Didn't hear anything. Isaac has continued to look out

of it. Everyday since then I have checked him for temp and looked at his

throat. Kept him home from church yesterday DH and I are now thinking

seasonal allergies. Told him he didn't have to go to school today but since

he wanted to go, reminded him to tell someone if he needed to come home.

Get a call from the school nurse this afternoon. She is concerned that he

is coming to her office way too often doesn't ever believe it has been

legitimate wants to make a plan to stop this. I told her I was incredulous.

I said that twice, both today and last Wednesday I had told him to tell

someone if he needed to come home because he didn't feel good. Told her

that he has looked " funny " since last Wednesday and that I had emailed his

teacher to please call me if he needed to come home. I said he has never

faked it and instead asks to go to school even if he is sick. She said,

" well first he told me his stomach hurt. Then he said he also had a

headache and when I made him go back to class he said the furniture hurt his

body, then I knew he was faking it " . I sighed and said, " but now I know he

was telling the truth. He couldn't get you to listen to anything else so he

tried to explain that his body hurts. I can't believe you didn't call me " .

I can tell I took the wind out of her sails a bit because she thought she

was so smart to " catch " Isaac at faking it. I said that in the future if

Isaac comes in to her office, to please call me. I will pick him up and

determine if he is " faking " it. I emailed his special education teacher

who just doesn't want to get in the middle. Geez Louise! Do they have to

make it this hard on the kid?!

Any advice on this?

Lori

Mom to Isaac, 13 and Tony 11

[Guest guest]

Weve had major problems in the past with nathan and school nurse way back on

like 1 or 2nd grade, from then on, I absolutely refuse the school nurse to

diagnose or medicate my child. always has an aid with him, and if he is

acting unwell, they call me and i pick him up. also doesnt always

realize

when he is sick, never c/o pain etc, so i try to keep a watch on him and always

let the school know and I INFORM the school nurse what is going on, what

med the

doc prescribed and what symptoms to call with etc. Ive even had to have the

doc write a RX stating he wasnt contagious is allowed to be at school.

is

a junior this year, and i havent had a problem since then. shawna

 

 

 http://sewshawna.blogspot.com

________________________________

To:

Sent: Mon, September 27, 2010 7:54:47 PM

Subject: school nurses

 

My son Isaac is in 7th grade and typically he loves school. He wants to go

even when he is sick. I emailed his teacher last Wednesday to say that he

didn't look well but wanted to go to school (no temp, throat seemed normal

color) could she please call me and send him home if he became worse and

needed to come home. Didn't hear anything. Isaac has continued to look out

of it. Everyday since then I have checked him for temp and looked at his

throat. Kept him home from church yesterday DH and I are now thinking

seasonal allergies. Told him he didn't have to go to school today but since

he wanted to go, reminded him to tell someone if he needed to come home.

Get a call from the school nurse this afternoon. She is concerned that he

is coming to her office way too often doesn't ever believe it has been

legitimate wants to make a plan to stop this. I told her I was incredulous.

I said that twice, both today and last Wednesday I had told him to tell

someone if he needed to come home because he didn't feel good. Told her

that he has looked " funny " since last Wednesday and that I had emailed his

teacher to please call me if he needed to come home. I said he has never

faked it and instead asks to go to school even if he is sick. She said,

" well first he told me his stomach hurt. Then he said he also had a

headache and when I made him go back to class he said the furniture hurt his

body, then I knew he was faking it " . I sighed and said, " but now I know he

was telling the truth. He couldn't get you to listen to anything else so he

tried to explain that his body hurts. I can't believe you didn't call me " .

I can tell I took the wind out of her sails a bit because she thought she

was so smart to " catch " Isaac at faking it. I said that in the future if

Isaac comes in to her office, to please call me. I will pick him up and

determine if he is " faking " it. I emailed his special education teacher

who just doesn't want to get in the middle. Geez Louise! Do they have to

make it this hard on the kid?!

Any advice on this?

Lori

Mom to Isaac, 13 and Tony 11

[Guest guest]

I had watched her the previous week and thought, " gosh am I glad my son

never goes to the nurses office " . She was flip, sarcastic and disrespectful

to all students I watched her with. Yikes! I told Isaac never to go to the

nurse again. Just say he needs to come home.

_____

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf

Of cathynash@...

Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 10:55 PM

To:

Subject: Re: school nurses

I've made the same " mistake " of assuming staff at school communicate

information we think is important. I have a written one page sheet for

substitutes that seems to never get into their hands unless I give it to

them. Sigh. The nurse sounds like she needs to get friendly messages from

you with direct instructions regarding your son. Probably that she should

call whenever he visits her and tell you what's discussed. You may need to

write this down or email her so its more official.

She didn't sound like she was mean, just jaded from too many years of fakers

(although I'm not sure that catching fakers should be such a big concern)

and that she didn't know your son very well.

Best of luck -

, Mom to (age 10 NT) and Darwyn ( age 6 DS ASD and a few heart

surgeries)

, Canada

school nurses

My son Isaac is in 7th grade and typically he loves school. He wants to go

even when he is sick. I emailed his teacher last Wednesday to say that he

didn't look well but wanted to go to school (no temp, throat seemed normal

color) could she please call me and send him home if he became worse and

needed to come home. Didn't hear anything. Isaac has continued to look out

of it. Everyday since then I have checked him for temp and looked at his

throat. Kept him home from church yesterday DH and I are now thinking

seasonal allergies. Told him he didn't have to go to school today but since

he wanted to go, reminded him to tell someone if he needed to come home.

Get a call from the school nurse this afternoon. She is concerned that he

is coming to her office way too often doesn't ever believe it has been

legitimate wants to make a plan to stop this. I told her I was incredulous.

I said that twice, both today and last Wednesday I had told him to tell

someone if he needed to come home because he didn't feel good. Told her

that he has looked " funny " since last Wednesday and that I had emailed his

teacher to please call me if he needed to come home. I said he has never

faked it and instead asks to go to school even if he is sick. She said,

" well first he told me his stomach hurt. Then he said he also had a

headache and when I made him go back to class he said the furniture hurt his

body, then I knew he was faking it " . I sighed and said, " but now I know he

was telling the truth. He couldn't get you to listen to anything else so he

tried to explain that his body hurts. I can't believe you didn't call me " .

I can tell I took the wind out of her sails a bit because she thought she

was so smart to " catch " Isaac at faking it. I said that in the future if

Isaac comes in to her office, to please call me. I will pick him up and

determine if he is " faking " it. I emailed his special education teacher

who just doesn't want to get in the middle. Geez Louise! Do they have to

make it this hard on the kid?!

Any advice on this?

Lori

Mom to Isaac, 13 and Tony 11

[Guest guest]

That's too funny, only NOT. It is the same " institution - I have power over

you " approach that is in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. It just shows

that the movie was telling the truth.

I'm sending her back your way.

Lori

_____

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf

Of charlyne1121@...

Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 1:18 AM

To:

Subject: Re: school nurses

Geez Lori, I had no idea that Zeb's middle school nurse transferred to your

area, excuse the sarcasm. I am on my 20 hr day work schedule and should be

in bed. I had the ped send a letter detailing that I should be called

immediately for any medical complaint. I did get called each time thereafter

but with the usual " he doesn't look sick to me " Zeb made a face after one of

those comments and she disturbed the principal that was in a meeting to let

him know Zeb was rude to her. I showed up at school just when the principla

was screaming at him. The ped removed him from school from the last 6 weeks

of that school year. He was transferring to the HS the following year. The

HS nurse is ok.

Charlyne

From: Lori <uccpowell@... <mailto:uccpowell%40tds.net> >

Subject: school nurses

To: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>

Date: Monday, September 27, 2010, 8:54 PM

My son Isaac is in 7th grade and typically he loves school. He wants to go

even when he is sick. I emailed his teacher last Wednesday to say that he

didn't look well but wanted to go to school (no temp, throat seemed normal

color) could she please call me and send him home if he became worse and

needed to come home. Didn't hear anything. Isaac has continued to look out

of it. Everyday since then I have checked him for temp and looked at his

throat. Kept him home from church yesterday DH and I are now thinking

seasonal allergies. Told him he didn't have to go to school today but since

he wanted to go, reminded him to tell someone if he needed to come home.

Get a call from the school nurse this afternoon. She is concerned that he

is coming to her office way too often doesn't ever believe it has been

legitimate wants to make a plan to stop this. I told her I was incredulous.

I said that twice, both today and last Wednesday I had told him to tell

someone if he needed to come home because he didn't feel good. Told her

that he has looked " funny " since last Wednesday and that I had emailed his

teacher to please call me if he needed to come home. I said he has never

faked it and instead asks to go to school even if he is sick. She said,

" well first he told me his stomach hurt. Then he said he also had a

headache and when I made him go back to class he said the furniture hurt his

body, then I knew he was faking it " . I sighed and said, " but now I know he

was telling the truth. He couldn't get you to listen to anything else so he

tried to explain that his body hurts. I can't believe you didn't call me " .

I can tell I took the wind out of her sails a bit because she thought she

was so smart to " catch " Isaac at faking it. I said that in the future if

Isaac comes in to her office, to please call me. I will pick him up and

determine if he is " faking " it. I emailed his special education teacher

who just doesn't want to get in the middle. Geez Louise! Do they have to

make it this hard on the kid?!

Any advice on this?

Lori

Mom to Isaac, 13 and Tony 11

[Guest guest]

Legally speaking, nurses are not allowed to diagnose. Only a doctor can

diagnose. They can, however, treat a fever or first aid injury.

>

> Weve had major problems in the past with nathan and school nurse way back on

> like 1 or 2nd grade, from then on, I absolutely refuse the school nurse to

> diagnose or medicate my child. always has an aid with him, and if he is

> acting unwell, they call me and i pick him up. also doesnt always

realize

> when he is sick, never c/o pain etc, so i try to keep a watch on him and

always

> let the school know and I INFORM the school nurse what is going on, what

med the

> doc prescribed and what symptoms to call with etc. Ive even had to have the

> doc write a RX stating he wasnt contagious is allowed to be at school.

is

> a junior this year, and i havent had a problem since then. shawna

>  

>  

>  http://sewshawna.blogspot.com

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> To:

> Sent: Mon, September 27, 2010 7:54:47 PM

> Subject: school nurses

>

>  

> My son Isaac is in 7th grade and typically he loves school. He wants to go

> even when he is sick. I emailed his teacher last Wednesday to say that he

> didn't look well but wanted to go to school (no temp, throat seemed normal

> color) could she please call me and send him home if he became worse and

> needed to come home. Didn't hear anything. Isaac has continued to look out

> of it. Everyday since then I have checked him for temp and looked at his

> throat. Kept him home from church yesterday DH and I are now thinking

> seasonal allergies. Told him he didn't have to go to school today but since

> he wanted to go, reminded him to tell someone if he needed to come home.

>

> Get a call from the school nurse this afternoon. She is concerned that he

> is coming to her office way too often doesn't ever believe it has been

> legitimate wants to make a plan to stop this. I told her I was incredulous.

> I said that twice, both today and last Wednesday I had told him to tell

> someone if he needed to come home because he didn't feel good. Told her

> that he has looked " funny " since last Wednesday and that I had emailed his

> teacher to please call me if he needed to come home. I said he has never

> faked it and instead asks to go to school even if he is sick. She said,

> " well first he told me his stomach hurt. Then he said he also had a

> headache and when I made him go back to class he said the furniture hurt his

> body, then I knew he was faking it " . I sighed and said, " but now I know he

> was telling the truth. He couldn't get you to listen to anything else so he

> tried to explain that his body hurts. I can't believe you didn't call me " .

>

> I can tell I took the wind out of her sails a bit because she thought she

> was so smart to " catch " Isaac at faking it. I said that in the future if

> Isaac comes in to her office, to please call me. I will pick him up and

> determine if he is " faking " it. I emailed his special education teacher

> who just doesn't want to get in the middle. Geez Louise! Do they have to

> make it this hard on the kid?!

>

> Any advice on this?

>

> Lori

>

> Mom to Isaac, 13 and Tony 11

>

>

[Guest guest]

that is correct susan, we as nurses cant legally diagnose, but I have found

through the years of different school nurses seem to tink they are above that

standard, I have no idea why, none of my coworking nurses at the hospital do

this, we even have to remind our patients sometimes we arent allowed, they will

have to wait for the doctor. Our school nurse cant even give nathan a

tylenol--in iowa the parents or gaurdians have to sign permission for the

nurse

to given your child anything, and i have signed the waiver stating she is not

allowed for nathan. And our doctor has also provided anything and everything

needed when it has come to his health and school for them. The only thing the

school and their nurse can do is emergency first aid/cpr. 

shawna 

 

 http://sewshawna.blogspot.com

________________________________

To:

Sent: Tue, September 28, 2010 2:28:08 PM

Subject: Re: school nurses

 

Legally speaking, nurses are not allowed to diagnose. Only a doctor can

diagnose. They can, however, treat a fever or first aid injury.

>

> Weve had major problems in the past with nathan and school nurse way back on

> like 1 or 2nd grade, from then on, I absolutely refuse the school nurse to

> diagnose or medicate my child. always has an aid with him, and if he is

> acting unwell, they call me and i pick him up. also doesnt always

>realize

>

> when he is sick, never c/o pain etc, so i try to keep a watch on him and

>always

>

> let the school know and I INFORM the school nurse what is going on, what

>med the

>

> doc prescribed and what symptoms to call with etc. Ive even had to have the

> doc write a RX stating he wasnt contagious is allowed to be at school.

>is

>

> a junior this year, and i havent had a problem since then. shawna

>  

>  

>  http://sewshawna.blogspot.com

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> To:

> Sent: Mon, September 27, 2010 7:54:47 PM

> Subject: school nurses

>

>  

> My son Isaac is in 7th grade and typically he loves school. He wants to go

> even when he is sick. I emailed his teacher last Wednesday to say that he

> didn't look well but wanted to go to school (no temp, throat seemed normal

> color) could she please call me and send him home if he became worse and

> needed to come home. Didn't hear anything. Isaac has continued to look out

> of it. Everyday since then I have checked him for temp and looked at his

> throat. Kept him home from church yesterday DH and I are now thinking

> seasonal allergies. Told him he didn't have to go to school today but since

> he wanted to go, reminded him to tell someone if he needed to come home.

>

> Get a call from the school nurse this afternoon. She is concerned that he

> is coming to her office way too often doesn't ever believe it has been

> legitimate wants to make a plan to stop this. I told her I was incredulous.

> I said that twice, both today and last Wednesday I had told him to tell

> someone if he needed to come home because he didn't feel good. Told her

> that he has looked " funny " since last Wednesday and that I had emailed his

> teacher to please call me if he needed to come home. I said he has never

> faked it and instead asks to go to school even if he is sick. She said,

> " well first he told me his stomach hurt. Then he said he also had a

> headache and when I made him go back to class he said the furniture hurt his

> body, then I knew he was faking it " . I sighed and said, " but now I know he

> was telling the truth. He couldn't get you to listen to anything else so he

> tried to explain that his body hurts. I can't believe you didn't call me " .

>

> I can tell I took the wind out of her sails a bit because she thought she

> was so smart to " catch " Isaac at faking it. I said that in the future if

> Isaac comes in to her office, to please call me. I will pick him up and

> determine if he is " faking " it. I emailed his special education teacher

> who just doesn't want to get in the middle. Geez Louise! Do they have to

> make it this hard on the kid?!

>

> Any advice on this?

>

> Lori

>

> Mom to Isaac, 13 and Tony 11

>

>

[Guest guest]

We've been fortunate. Our lower elementary school nurse is a sweetheart! She's

been fabulous with , with , and when was coming to see her every

day, she let me know so we could figure out what he needed in the

classroom...she understood that he wasn't " just faking it " , that he had a need

that wasn't being met and needed to be addressed. We see her out and about

every so often, and she always greets the kids by name and has already begun to

earn Annika's trust. She's a true ally.

The upper elementary nurse is a bit more businesslike, but still very kind and

concerned. A nice lady.

They're good people. The one I had growing up was also a good person.

Sent from my iPhone

that is correct susan, we as nurses cant legally diagnose, but I have found

through the years of different school nurses seem to tink they are above that

standard, I have no idea why, none of my coworking nurses at the hospital do

this, we even have to remind our patients sometimes we arent allowed, they will

have to wait for the doctor. Our school nurse cant even give nathan a

tylenol--in iowa the parents or gaurdians have to sign permission for the nurse

to given your child anything, and i have signed the waiver stating she is not

allowed for nathan. And our doctor has also provided anything and everything

needed when it has come to his health and school for them. The only thing the

school and their nurse can do is emergency first aid/cpr.

shawna

http://sewshawna.blogspot.com

________________________________

To:

Sent: Tue, September 28, 2010 2:28:08 PM

Subject: Re: school nurses

Legally speaking, nurses are not allowed to diagnose. Only a doctor can

diagnose. They can, however, treat a fever or first aid injury.

>

> Weve had major problems in the past with nathan and school nurse way back on

> like 1 or 2nd grade, from then on, I absolutely refuse the school nurse to

> diagnose or medicate my child. always has an aid with him, and if he is

> acting unwell, they call me and i pick him up. also doesnt always

>realize

>

> when he is sick, never c/o pain etc, so i try to keep a watch on him and

>always

>

> let the school know and I INFORM the school nurse what is going on, what

>med the

>

> doc prescribed and what symptoms to call with etc. Ive even had to have the

> doc write a RX stating he wasnt contagious is allowed to be at school.

>is

>

> a junior this year, and i havent had a problem since then. shawna

> Â

> Â

> Â http://sewshawna.blogspot.com

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> To:

> Sent: Mon, September 27, 2010 7:54:47 PM

> Subject: school nurses

>

> Â

> My son Isaac is in 7th grade and typically he loves school. He wants to go

> even when he is sick. I emailed his teacher last Wednesday to say that he

> didn't look well but wanted to go to school (no temp, throat seemed normal

> color) could she please call me and send him home if he became worse and

> needed to come home. Didn't hear anything. Isaac has continued to look out

> of it. Everyday since then I have checked him for temp and looked at his

> throat. Kept him home from church yesterday DH and I are now thinking

> seasonal allergies. Told him he didn't have to go to school today but since

> he wanted to go, reminded him to tell someone if he needed to come home.

>

> Get a call from the school nurse this afternoon. She is concerned that he

> is coming to her office way too often doesn't ever believe it has been

> legitimate wants to make a plan to stop this. I told her I was incredulous.

> I said that twice, both today and last Wednesday I had told him to tell

> someone if he needed to come home because he didn't feel good. Told her

> that he has looked " funny " since last Wednesday and that I had emailed his

> teacher to please call me if he needed to come home. I said he has never

> faked it and instead asks to go to school even if he is sick. She said,

> " well first he told me his stomach hurt. Then he said he also had a

> headache and when I made him go back to class he said the furniture hurt his

> body, then I knew he was faking it " . I sighed and said, " but now I know he

> was telling the truth. He couldn't get you to listen to anything else so he

> tried to explain that his body hurts. I can't believe you didn't call me " .

>

> I can tell I took the wind out of her sails a bit because she thought she

> was so smart to " catch " Isaac at faking it. I said that in the future if

> Isaac comes in to her office, to please call me. I will pick him up and

> determine if he is " faking " it. I emailed his special education teacher

> who just doesn't want to get in the middle. Geez Louise! Do they have to

> make it this hard on the kid?!

>

> Any advice on this?

>

> Lori

>

> Mom to Isaac, 13 and Tony 11

>

>