Guest guest Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 At my house, this meant yeast overgrowth and mineral deficiency [usually calcium here, but others report zinc]. It can also be caused by parasites in the gut. This also causes sensory issues. When my son grinds his teeth I give him something crunchy like a pretzel and he stops grinding. Cyndi B > > A concern/question I have is also being asked on a DS yahoo group regarding teeth grinding. Have any of you faced this problem and if so what did you do to get your child to stop. We have tried everything. My son is almost 7 yrs old and we wonder if he is ever going to stop. I would appreciate any input you have. I'm wondering if this grinding affects kids w/autism differently than those w/just D.S.. > Thanks! > > > Villanueva Viajes To Go Vacations erika@... www.viajestogo.com > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Tried the plastic chewy " phone cord " necklace, tried redirecting, tried massaging the jaw. He hated them all. Darwyn (5) still grinds a lot. I have noticed that if our day is so routine and dull that I feel numb, he often grinds less. I remember this was a thread about 6 months ago and lots of older kids still grind. Its very common. teeth grinding A concern/question I have is also being asked on a DS yahoo group regarding teeth grinding. Have any of you faced this problem and if so what did you do to get your child to stop. We have tried everything. My son is almost 7 yrs old and we wonder if he is ever going to stop. I would appreciate any input you have. I'm wondering if this grinding affects kids w/autism differently than those w/just D.S.. Thanks! Villanueva Viajes To Go Vacations erika@... www.viajestogo.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 > > Tried the plastic chewy " phone cord " necklace, tried redirecting, tried massaging the jaw. He hated them all. Darwyn (5) still grinds a lot. I have noticed that if our day is so routine and dull that I feel numb, he often grinds less. I remember this was a thread about 6 months ago and lots of older kids still grind. Its very common. > > teeth grinding > > > A concern/question I have is also being asked on a DS yahoo group regarding teeth grinding. Have any of you faced this problem and if so what did you do to get your child to stop. We have tried everything. My son is almost 7 yrs old and we wonder if he is ever going to stop. I would appreciate any input you have. I'm wondering if this grinding affects kids w/autism differently than those w/just D.S.. > Thanks! > > > Villanueva Viajes To Go Vacations erika@... www.viajestogo.com > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 -My Jemma likes to chew on soft things , this has helped, but the biggy was icy poles. As soon as I gave her one a day when the grinding was bad, she stopped completely. Of course i make my own, but its the sensory side for her, craving oral stimulation. I also use electric toothbrushes, hard chewy foods etc. Belinda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2009 Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 hi shawna, i do know it to be a sensory input issue too. what has worked for us is pushing her joints together a little ( in then release, in then release) all over her body. i start with the wrist or the feet and ankle. she seems to relax and enjoy it right away. i push against her jaw too, hands on both sides pushing up and lastly sqeeze her head) this is the technique i was taught. xox claudia > > Subject: Re: teeth grinding > To: > Date: Saturday, September 26, 2009, 3:18 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > my nathan guy who is 18 still grinds > histeeteh on occasion, abut not near as much as when he was > little. I was told it's a sensory thing. I have found > oral sensory chewy toys help as does ambesol if really bad. > He mostly does it now if sick or something is bothering him. > shawna > > May all your life's ups and downs be with a needle and > thread. > > http://sewshawna. > blogspot. com > > > > From: Villanueva > > Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 5:57 PM > > To: @yahoogrou > ps.com > > Subject: teeth grinding > > > > A concern/question I have is also being asked on a DS yahoo > group regarding teeth grinding. Have any of you faced this > problem and if so what did you do to get your child to stop. > We have tried everything. My son is almost 7 yrs old and we > wonder if he is ever going to stop. I would appreciate any > input you have. I'm wondering if this grinding affects > kids w/autism differently than those w/just D.S.. > > Thanks! > > > > > > Villanueva Viajes To Go Vacations erikaviajestogo (DOT) > com www.viajestogo. com > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 I just want to thank everyone for their suggestions and ideas. We have tried the chewy letters, but it only seemed to encourage him to grind even more after he was done chewing. I havent tried the vibrating toys yet and I will have to look into purchasing one. I decided to take him to our chiropractor yesterday since it's been awhile. The first things she asked me after feeling his hips, back, and neck was...is he constipated and is he grinding his teeth? Wow! Â Well, she adjusted him and wouldnt you know....his grinding has been really reduced. So we are taking him back in two weeks. Thanks again for the suggestions!!! Villanueva Viajes To Go Vacations erika@... www.viajestogo.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 My daughter is on zinc and a probiotic and STILL grinds her teeth! Heidi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 I read somewhere about grinding teeth and zinc diffecency's is that true? A Nuerologist recomended that our son take zinc b/c the copper zinc ratio was off his zinc was in the normal range but compared to the copper it was low.For some kids, zinc helps with oral issues, altho oral issues at my house were caused by intolerance and yeast overgrowth. > > I just want to thank everyone for their suggestions and ideas. We have tried the chewy letters, but it only seemed to encourage him to grind even more after he was done chewing. I havent tried the vibrating toys yet and I will have to look into purchasing one. I decided to take him to our chiropractor yesterday since it's been awhile. The first things she asked me after feeling his hips, back, and neck was...is he constipated and is he grinding his teeth? Wow! Â Well, she adjusted him and wouldnt you know....his grinding has been really reduced. So we are taking him back in two weeks. Thanks again for the suggestions!!! > > > Villanueva Viajes To Go Vacations erika@... www.viajestogo.com > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 We see an orthopedic for annual reviews and so far no signs of AAI, but Chiro is very careful when it comes to adjusting his neck area. A couple of things to add to the grinding...my naturapath doctor mentioned two things that we need to work on also to eliminate the grinding...One, she used the example of horses and how they tend to grind their teeth when they are lacking in necessary vitamins/veggies. So we need to get my son on the powder vegeteble drinks that you can add to juice. We have neglected to do this and so will start that soon. Also, she mentioned that a lot of kids get pin worms from putting their hands in their mouths after playing in playground, etc. If your child itches bottom this is a big sign of having pin worms which also adds to the teeth grinding. So we have to go out and get the PinX to get rid of those little bugs. Hopefully, all of this together will eliminate or reduce greatly the grinding:-) Bye the way...I agree too on the fact that our kids get the yeast overgrowth. I try to give my kids acedopholis (?) every week. Villanueva Viajes To Go Vacations erika@... www.viajestogo.com Subject: Re: teeth grinding To: Date: Thursday, October 1, 2009, 9:40 AM  Question , did the Chiropractor have an ex-ray done? To rule out the AAI (Atlantial Axial Instability) . This is where the doc has to also be caution. My son for the longest time about every physical check-up for school would have the x-ray done and always return normal. Until my son started getting adjustments which helped him tremendously with the complex challenges, boy even I enjoyed it myself. But then his regular MD once again ran an X-ray for his annual school physical test and the results were abnormal that I had to discontinue the adjustments. It is great to read how this has helped your son and I pray that it continues as you've noticed some great results. The adjustments helps in so many ways, decreases if any anxiety issues, yes could see on the question if constipated, reduces any sensory process disorders as well and thensome. Teeth-grinding in my son's case was Candida (yeast overgrowth), anxiety, agitated, fear, certain nutritional deficiency (lack of certain nutrient - Zinc or calcium), full moon, when allergies/sinus act up, etc. Until the next appointment date, look forward to an update. Irma,21, DS/ASD > > I just want to thank everyone for their suggestions and ideas. We have tried the chewy letters, but it only seemed to encourage him to grind even more after he was done chewing. I havent tried the vibrating toys yet and I will have to look into purchasing one. I decided to take him to our chiropractor yesterday since it's been awhile. The first things she asked me after feeling his hips, back, and neck was...is he constipated and is he grinding his teeth? Wow! �Well, she adjusted him and wouldnt you know....his grinding has been really reduced. So we are taking him back in two weeks. Thanks again for the suggestions! !! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 Pin worms are visible to the naked eye - check with a flashlite at nite after the kids have been asleep for at least an hour. You can see if they exist as they exit thru the anus. Check before treating IMHO> Why add a drug if not necessary. Vitamin powders are availablethat you can add to food like peanut butter, or mashed potatoes or mac and cheese (I stirred it in or added it right be fore Elie ate - thus I didn't have to worry about it all sinking to the bottom. My favorite was on peanut butter sandwiches, but I also sprinkled it on the hamburger, under the ketchup! We bought it by the can from Vitamin World. On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 2:09 PM, Villanueva wrote: > > > We see an orthopedic for annual reviews and so far no signs of AAI, but > Chiro is very careful when it comes to adjusting his neck area. A couple of > things to add to the grinding...my naturapath doctor mentioned two things > that we need to work on also to eliminate the grinding...One, she used the > example of horses and how they tend to grind their teeth when they are > lacking in necessary vitamins/veggies. So we need to get my son on the > powder vegeteble drinks that you can add to juice. We have neglected to do > this and so will start that soon. Also, she mentioned that a lot of kids get > pin worms from putting their hands in their mouths after playing in > playground, etc. If your child itches bottom this is a big sign of having > pin worms which also adds to the teeth grinding. So we have to go out and > get the PinX to get rid of those little bugs. Hopefully, all of this > together will eliminate or reduce greatly the grinding:-) Bye the way...I > agree too on the > fact that our kids get the yeast overgrowth. I try to give my kids > acedopholis (?) every week. > > > Villanueva Viajes To Go Vacations erika@...<erika%40viajestogo.com> > www.viajestogo.com > > > > From: mum592001 <itcanfield@... <itcanfield%40gmail.com>> > Subject: Re: teeth grinding > To: > Date: Thursday, October 1, 2009, 9:40 AM > > > > Question , did the Chiropractor have an ex-ray done? To rule out the > AAI (Atlantial Axial Instability) . This is where the doc has to also be > caution. > > My son for the longest time about every physical check-up for school would > have the x-ray done and always return normal. > > Until my son started getting adjustments which helped him tremendously with > the complex challenges, boy even I enjoyed it myself. > > But then his regular MD once again ran an X-ray for his annual school > physical test and the results were abnormal that I had to discontinue the > adjustments. > > It is great to read how this has helped your son and I pray that it > continues as you've noticed some great results. > > The adjustments helps in so many ways, decreases if any anxiety issues, yes > could see on the question if constipated, reduces any sensory process > disorders as well and thensome. > > Teeth-grinding in my son's case was Candida (yeast overgrowth), anxiety, > agitated, fear, certain nutritional deficiency (lack of certain nutrient - > Zinc or calcium), full moon, when allergies/sinus act up, etc. > > Until the next appointment date, look forward to an update. > > Irma,21, DS/ASD > > > > > > > > I just want to thank everyone for their suggestions and ideas. We have > tried the chewy letters, but it only seemed to encourage him to grind even > more after he was done chewing. I havent tried the vibrating toys yet and I > will have to look into purchasing one. I decided to take him to our > chiropractor yesterday since it's been awhile. The first things she asked me > after feeling his hips, back, and neck was...is he constipated and is he > grinding his teeth? Wow! �Well, she adjusted him and wouldnt you > know....his grinding has been really reduced. So we are taking him back in > two weeks. Thanks again for the suggestions! !! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 , Thank you for sharing your story, all good indeed and look forward to future updates. Appreciate it, wishing you well on your mission. Irma,21,DS/ASD > > We see an orthopedic for annual reviews and so far no signs of AAI, but Chiro is very careful when it comes to adjusting his neck area. A couple of things to add to the grinding...my naturapath doctor mentioned two things that we need to work on also to eliminate the grinding...One, she used the example of horses and how they tend to grind their teeth when they are lacking in necessary vitamins/veggies. So we need to get my son on the powder vegeteble drinks that you can add to juice. We have neglected to do this and so will start that soon. Also, she mentioned that a lot of kids get pin worms from putting their hands in their mouths after playing in playground, etc. If your child itches bottom this is a big sign of having pin worms which also adds to the teeth grinding. So we have to go out and get the PinX to get rid of those little bugs. Hopefully, all of this together will eliminate or reduce greatly the grinding:-) Bye the way...I agree too on the > fact that our kids get the yeast overgrowth. I try to give my kids acedopholis (?) every week. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 I remember a 5 hour car trip with and her little friend also dual dx...it was surround sound grinding and just a wee bit nerve wracking. used to grind just because it was a day that ended in " Y " but as we gradually sorted things out it became clearer. Perhaps her early grinding was yeast or zinc related...no telling but those areas were brought under control. We realized she'd start grinding when she had either a bonafide ear infection (she didn't get fevers and she didn't rub her ears...she did bang her head) or wax in her ears. I bought an otoscope and learned to use it. Finally they came up with these new wax plucker thingies that we now use. The other reason was teeth related. She was one of those kids who had trouble with every single tooth coming in and going out. The back ones especially caused grinding. She used to gnaw on everything when teeth were coming in. Unfortunately not anything I wanted her to gnaw on. She hasn't been grinding recently at all except for a 3 day spell a couple of weeks ago where we checked and sure enough...full of wax. I still have to take her to a special needs dental clinic (ped dentist won't see her anymore) to try to get xrays and figure out where her wisdom teeth are. Sherry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 NT or DS/ASD kids: heads up on teeth. Specifically ASK the dentist about wisdom teeth at about age 16 or so. IF present, and if impacted or no place to come in, best to remove before the kids age out of dental insurance. But also because root formation is not as deep before 21 and more easily removed if they will need to go. Of my six children, only 2 had to have wisdom teeth removed. ANd it was a huge deal for both in that there was no room for them and they would have required major surgery had they waited until a problem presented. Elie has no wisdom teeth . Nor does my bio son (he is missing 14 teeth). But my twins have them and there was plenty of room for them - no issue. > > > I remember a 5 hour car trip with and her little friend also dual > dx...it was surround sound grinding and just a wee bit nerve wracking. > > used to grind just because it was a day that ended in " Y " but as we > gradually sorted things out it became clearer. Perhaps her early grinding > was yeast or zinc related...no telling but those areas were brought under > control. We realized she'd start grinding when she had either a bonafide ear > infection (she didn't get fevers and she didn't rub her ears...she did bang > her head) or wax in her ears. I bought an otoscope and learned to use it. > Finally they came up with these new wax plucker thingies that we now use. > > The other reason was teeth related. She was one of those kids who had > trouble with every single tooth coming in and going out. The back ones > especially caused grinding. She used to gnaw on everything when teeth were > coming in. Unfortunately not anything I wanted her to gnaw on. She hasn't > been grinding recently at all except for a 3 day spell a couple of weeks ago > where we checked and sure enough...full of wax. I still have to take her to > a special needs dental clinic (ped dentist won't see her anymore) to try to > get xrays and figure out where her wisdom teeth are. > > Sherry > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 Have you tried rotating the pro biotic/Zinc brands and not just sticking with the same ones? Just like meds you sometimes have to do this until you find what works? Cyndi B > > I remember a 5 hour car trip with and her little friend also dual dx...it was surround sound grinding and just a wee bit nerve wracking. > > used to grind just because it was a day that ended in " Y " but as we gradually sorted things out it became clearer. Perhaps her early grinding was yeast or zinc related...no telling but those areas were brought under control. We realized she'd start grinding when she had either a bonafide ear infection (she didn't get fevers and she didn't rub her ears...she did bang her head) or wax in her ears. I bought an otoscope and learned to use it. Finally they came up with these new wax plucker thingies that we now use. > > The other reason was teeth related. She was one of those kids who had trouble with every single tooth coming in and going out. The back ones especially caused grinding. She used to gnaw on everything when teeth were coming in. Unfortunately not anything I wanted her to gnaw on. She hasn't been grinding recently at all except for a 3 day spell a couple of weeks ago where we checked and sure enough...full of wax. I still have to take her to a special needs dental clinic (ped dentist won't see her anymore) to try to get xrays and figure out where her wisdom teeth are. > > Sherry > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 Yes magnesium will make them have a blow out. Yes I cut my sons dosage down also. I would tell the Dr. your concerns and ask about giving fiber to cut down on blowouts. Rash sounds like yeast if specially after a blowout. No according to the DAN docs and gastroenterologist once a day is not good enough. Everybody should go 2 times daily. What does VSL probiotic stand for? Cyndi B > > > In a message dated 10/1/2009 6:25:00 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > cynthiamiltonburns@... writes: > > > > > Maybe it is not strong enough. Cyndi b > > > > > > > Seems like every time I increase 's doses of VSL probiotic (and > magnesium malate for that matter) to where her DAN doc wants her, she gets > blow-out diapers (which I don't want her to have at school) and a terrible red > rash on the front of her. She's only on 1/8 tsp. of the VSL per day and > the DAN doc wants her at 2 tsp. 2x/day; and only on 25% of the 100% of mag > mal he wants her on per day. > > They also want her BMs to be twice a day if possible - isn't once a day > good enough? Does anybody really go more than once? Sorry if this is a > gross topic... I guess I have a lot more questions to ask at our next appt. > And it seems like she acts constipated whether or not her BMs are hard or > soft. But I certainly can't have her having blow-out diapers in school! It's > one thing to be able to do what the DAN doc wants if the child is > potty-trained and it's not a mess!!!!!!!!!! > > Heidi > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 I went and bought the magnisium, used it once...and she seems to have STOPPED!! im betting on growing out of it, or gnawing them down to nothing to grind! *whew* > > Hi again. Do any of you have kids that grind their teeth? What do > you do about it? stops when I tell her " no " , but then she > goes right back to it. I'm afraid she'll grind them down to nothing! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 Thank you Margaret, Lyn and everyone, great info. I will be attending behavioral classes for the next 7 weeks at our local Regional Ctr. as this will also be a means to get a behaviorist to observe Jelani in home and at school. It's great having you all to turn to. May you all have a great weekend! Dawn > > Hi Everyone....Dawn....teeth grinding is very common for autism and can > also be an OCD habit. Gareth's baby teeth were ground down to almost > nothing, but the teeth grinding stopped when put on Risperdal/SSRI combo. > Thankfully, he still has his adult teeth. > > Take care, Everyone. > Margaret > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 Two of my NT kids do this in their sleep. It's sound is like nails on a chalkboard...on my last nerve. I am sure it is not healthy and they seem to do it when they do not feel well. Maybe that is a clue? Not sure. > > Hi Everyone....Dawn....teeth grinding is very common for autism and can > also be an OCD habit. Gareth's baby teeth were ground down to almost > nothing, but the teeth grinding stopped when put on Risperdal/SSRI combo. > Thankfully, he still has his adult teeth. > > Take care, Everyone. > Margaret > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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