Welcome

[Guest guest]

Hi June, I was wondering where you have been keeping yourself. I'm

sorry to hear about the problems your having with your cut, that

sounds awful. You just be careful with it, you sure don't won't an

infection.

I hope that your Thanksgiving went well, and you had a nice day with

family. I did manage to cook dinner, but after all that, we have

decided to go out for Xmas. It was just way too much for me. But,

today I'm resting, and doing absolutely nothing, which is nice:)

Well, you just take care of you, and know that I'm keeping you in my

prayers, hugs T

> Due to a fall where I cut my elbow badly on my left arm on the

inside of the elbow. They tried to stitch it but the stitches

wouldn't stay in. My right arm is cut on the outside of my right

elbow but didn't require stitching. This, along with all my medical

appts and tests has kept me away from my computer, other than to read

my mail. Yesterday where the cut is on my left arm, split wide open

so I now have a very large bandage on it. I figure it can't open up

any more so to heck with it, which is why I am back.

>

> Seeing so many new members is heartwarming and I would like to say

from the bottom of my heart, I am so happy you found this unique

group to share with. Ken, your poem touched me and I have printed it

out to keep on my desk. Due to my advancing years I cannot for the

life of me get caught up enough to remember who posted what so I will

just say, to those of you in pain, that I pray you get some relief

soon and to all my wonderful, dear friends, try to not overdo with

baking, shopping etc. I love you all and look forward to getting to

know the new members who all seem to be a perfect fit with us.

>

> More later.

>

> Hugs & Love

> June

> The silly old lady that can't stay upright.

>

>

[Guest guest]

June,

So sorry you had a fall. I hope your cuts heal with no complications.

You've had so much going on lately between your knee and ankle.

Staying upright can be challenging! I hope your rheumy visit went

well today and your scan is ok so you can go ahead with the surgery.

Do you still see your grandsons a lot?

a

On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 15:38:20 -0500, June Dixon <juner24@...> wrote:

>

> Due to a fall where I cut my elbow badly on my left arm on the inside of the

elbow. They tried to stitch it but the stitches wouldn't stay in. My right arm

is cut on the outside of my right elbow but didn't require stitching. This,

along with all my medical appts and tests has kept me away from my computer,

other than to read my mail. Yesterday where the cut is on my left arm, split

wide open so I now have a very large bandage on it. I figure it can't open up

any more so to heck with it, which is why I am back.

>

> Seeing so many new members is heartwarming and I would like to say from the

bottom of my heart, I am so happy you found this unique group to share with.

Ken, your poem touched me and I have printed it out to keep on my desk. Due to

my advancing years I cannot for the life of me get caught up enough to remember

who posted what so I will just say, to those of you in pain, that I pray you get

some relief soon and to all my wonderful, dear friends, try to not overdo with

baking, shopping etc. I love you all and look forward to getting to know the new

members who all seem to be a perfect fit with us.

>

> More later.

>

> Hugs & Love

> June

> The silly old lady that can't stay upright.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks T for your thoughts. Being Canadian, we had our TG in October buy my

niece is up from Ohio so my sister is having us all over for dinner. Christmas

is now held at one of my sons' house and my wonderful DIL's do all the work. All

I have to do is make the trifle and some pies, I just cannot do it any longer,

there are too many of us now and since it was them that wanted to continue the

tradition of a home cooked Christmas dinner, I leave it up to them. Both my boys

are accustomed to helping so I know their wives are not having it all to do.

Good idea that you are going out for Christmas. It makes no sense to make

yourself sick trying to carry on when your health does not allow it.

Hugs

June

----- Original Message -----

From: Tawny

Hi June, I was wondering where you have been keeping yourself. I'm

sorry to hear about the problems your having with your cut, that

sounds awful. You just be careful with it, you sure don't won't an

infection.

I hope that your Thanksgiving went well, and you had a nice day with

family. I did manage to cook dinner, but after all that, we have

decided to go out for Xmas. It was just way too much for me. But,

today I'm resting, and doing absolutely nothing, which is nice:)

Well, you just take care of you, and know that I'm keeping you in my

prayers, hugs T

> Due to a fall where I cut my elbow badly on my left arm on the

inside of the elbow. They tried to stitch it but the stitches

wouldn't stay in. My right arm is cut on the outside of my right

elbow but didn't require stitching. This, along with all my medical

appts and tests has kept me away from my computer, other than to read

my mail. Yesterday where the cut is on my left arm, split wide open

so I now have a very large bandage on it. I figure it can't open up

any more so to heck with it, which is why I am back.

>

> Seeing so many new members is heartwarming and I would like to say

from the bottom of my heart, I am so happy you found this unique

group to share with. Ken, your poem touched me and I have printed it

out to keep on my desk. Due to my advancing years I cannot for the

life of me get caught up enough to remember who posted what so I will

just say, to those of you in pain, that I pray you get some relief

soon and to all my wonderful, dear friends, try to not overdo with

baking, shopping etc. I love you all and look forward to getting to

know the new members who all seem to be a perfect fit with us.

>

> More later.

>

> Hugs & Love

> June

> The silly old lady that can't stay upright.

>

>

[Guest guest]

hi Bettie:

I don't post a lot but I do read through the posts. I am glad to know that your surgery is over! I thought of you and kept my prayers with you.

My 14 yr old boy had a congenital c-tome removed back in September. He is doing very well and has reincorporated himself to all his regular activities, including his contact sports.(wrestling).His c-toma was huge and it was a very scary time. I hope your surgery goes as well as 's (my son).

Regards

Yoakum

[Guest guest]

Thank you Bettie... I hope you have a speedy recovery from your

surgery... I only pray my daughter's goes as well.

>

> Hi ,

>

> Welcome to the group. My post today just shows what an important

> group this can be. You will find alot of information, support and

> 1st hand experience here. Best wishes to you and your family in

> your Ctoma journey!

>

> Bettie

[Guest guest]

Well said Niemma

[Guest guest]

I think the statement that it came back in months was directed at me

(although I am not entirely sure and this could be very ego

centric). The first time I diagnosed myself, the key was simple

persistence. I did the diet almost to the point of religion. I did

have help (as I stated before, Spornox for six months), but the

downfall came when I backslid from my religious eating. I stop all

of the supplements except the multi-vitamin. I liken it to the

depressed individual who goes off their meds " because they feel

fine. " I was only curious about the latest research and experiences

of others, since I have not even had a yeast infection in three

years (I was surprised to find out Diflucan had a generic!!)I am

certainly no expert, and all I can tell you is this was what I did

to get rid of it the first time:

Diet: I don't want to say it was all organic, but ABSOLUTLY NO

CARBS/SUGAR. The only thing that could have been called " cheating "

was once a month I would go out with my friends and drink Citron and

Sevens with a lime (but I brought my own diet 7-up since no one

carries it). I would even pull the breading off Chicken MC Nuggets.

Meds: Spornox, plus if I broke out with a yeast infection, the

doctor would put 4 days of Diflucan on top of it to kill that (DO

NOT RECOMEND IF YOU HAVE LIVER PROBLEMS, AND MAKE SURE THEY TEST

YOUR LIVER WHILE AND IF YOU DO THIS).

Supplements:

Asphidolpholis: I know people complain about stomach aches, but I

found these went away after a couple of months. I felt bad before,

so what was the difference at this point? I don't think you build up

a tolerance, I just think as the yeast dies it passes more easily

through your system.

GNC multivitamin for women

B-complex

Estersol (vitamin c)

*was very careful with all supplements to check for " no yeast " on

the label.

Please note that I was never tested for food allergies or reactions

(I could not afford it).

The Trick (if it is one) is longevity. There are no quick fixes.

Decide what you are going to do, and do it. Don't watch for a month

or two and say you don't see any results. I found it took almost 4

months for real change to START happening, but was almost a year

before I was completely healthy, and this was doing the same thing

and not deviating. I would ask myself " You may experience

discomfort, but is it really worse than the disease? "

And that was how I did it the first time. I just wanted to know if

anyone has been taking Threelac for an extended period of time and

found it effective and how fast? This one is new to me, and I'll try

anything I can afford. I would really like to avoid going back on

the prescriptions, and I am not as bad now as I was the first time.

I hope this helps someone!!

> Greetings All old and new

>

> I hope you are doing better these days.

>

> We have some new people that I would like to just say hello to.

>

> I am nieema one of your moderators.

>

> I would invite all of those new people to take a look at the things

> that are posted in the files and at the success stories and then go

> from there.

> If in fact you have done that are are confused I can understand

that.

> Just hang in there, it will make since in a while.

>

> At times the group will get back to you in a short time with some

> answers and at other times...(summer) it might take a few days to

get

> the answer you are looking for.

>

> To answer a question...no this group is not about just discussion

> products, but part of the support is looking deeply into the good

the

> bad and the ugly of products. People will discuss if it worked for

> them, if it do not work for them. It goes on and on and on.

>

> Who was it that has just come back after months? Can you please

say a

> few words to the new people about how long it takes to solve the

puzzle!

> Yes, the puzzle, that is what I said because it is a puzzle. The

> things Candida will do some are the most interesting things I have

> ever seen in a living organism.

> So, the study of the things that turn it on and off is a puzzle.

>

> You will have to keep good track of what you eat and how it makes

you

> feel.

> You can communicate with us about things if you would like, there

are

> many ways to us this group, the choice is yours.

>

> But, one things is for sure...your body is having a problem

because it

> is overloaded with toxins. A body that is not toxic will not be

> having the problems we have.

>

> So, read up...follow some of the suggestions...drink more water,

and

> love yourself for the very thought of wanting to be healthy...that

is

> really very special!!!

>

> yours in good health

>

> nieema

[Guest guest]

Greetings All

Thank you!!

> I think the statement that it came back in months was directed at me

> (although I am not entirely sure and this could be very ego

> centric). The first time I diagnosed myself, the key was simple

> persistence. I did the diet almost to the point of religion. I did

> have help (as I stated before, Spornox for six months), but the

> downfall came when I backslid from my religious eating. I stop all

> of the supplements except the multi-vitamin. I liken it to the

> depressed individual who goes off their meds " because they feel

> fine. " I was only curious about the latest research and experiences

> of others, since I have not even had a yeast infection in three

> years (I was surprised to find out Diflucan had a generic!!)I am

> certainly no expert, and all I can tell you is this was what I did

> to get rid of it the first time:

>

> Diet: I don't want to say it was all organic, but ABSOLUTLY NO

> CARBS/SUGAR. The only thing that could have been called " cheating "

> was once a month I would go out with my friends and drink Citron and

> Sevens with a lime (but I brought my own diet 7-up since no one

> carries it). I would even pull the breading off Chicken MC Nuggets.

>

> Meds: Spornox, plus if I broke out with a yeast infection, the

> doctor would put 4 days of Diflucan on top of it to kill that (DO

> NOT RECOMEND IF YOU HAVE LIVER PROBLEMS, AND MAKE SURE THEY TEST

> YOUR LIVER WHILE AND IF YOU DO THIS).

>

> Supplements:

> Asphidolpholis: I know people complain about stomach aches, but I

> found these went away after a couple of months. I felt bad before,

> so what was the difference at this point? I don't think you build up

> a tolerance, I just think as the yeast dies it passes more easily

> through your system.

> GNC multivitamin for women

> B-complex

> Estersol (vitamin c)

> *was very careful with all supplements to check for " no yeast " on

> the label.

>

> Please note that I was never tested for food allergies or reactions

> (I could not afford it).

>

> The Trick (if it is one) is longevity. There are no quick fixes.

> Decide what you are going to do, and do it. Don't watch for a month

> or two and say you don't see any results. I found it took almost 4

> months for real change to START happening, but was almost a year

> before I was completely healthy, and this was doing the same thing

> and not deviating. I would ask myself " You may experience

> discomfort, but is it really worse than the disease? "

>

> And that was how I did it the first time. I just wanted to know if

> anyone has been taking Threelac for an extended period of time and

> found it effective and how fast? This one is new to me, and I'll try

> anything I can afford. I would really like to avoid going back on

> the prescriptions, and I am not as bad now as I was the first time.

>

> I hope this helps someone!!

[Guest guest]

Great job Cam! It may take a while to get this group up and running,

but I believe we'll have a safe, friendly, informative,(and free)

site to offer those in search of answers on their flatback problems.

So let's get this party started!

~~

[Guest guest]

,

I hope we will be back in " business " soon...I couldn't change

everyones status this morning because I was at work...but I think I

have it figured out now.

Thanks for posting your photo and when I get a minute I will put mine

up as well...I have some other stuff I want to put into files but it

will take a couple days I think.

Glad you are here....Cam

> Great job Cam! It may take a while to get this group up and running,

> but I believe we'll have a safe, friendly, informative,(and free)

> site to offer those in search of answers on their flatback problems.

> So let's get this party started!

> ~~

[Guest guest]

I'm still in " moderator mode " even though I'm not one here. I'd

strongly suggest always keeping the " new members need their posts

approved by a moderator " flag on. You will *never* be safe from

spammers/porn. It just takes awhile between attempts. A group

moderator can set a member to " unmoderated " individually. This is a

bit more work for the moderator, although not much more. This

approach combines the best of all worlds, unmoderating " known " people

and keeping the uninvited out of the group.

Btw, this is a personal opinion, but I don't like the idea of a

moderator having to approve a member joining the group. It just seems

cold to me. A group is much more inviting if I can join right away.

But it's Cam's show. I really like having a warm, friendly place to

come to in times of need or just for socializing. Thanks.

--- In , " cammaltby "

> I do have the member settings set up initially to approve new

members

> posts, but as soon as I can see we haven't drawn the attention of

the

> ever active spammers I will reset the member to automatic.

[Guest guest]

Hi ...

I agree about approving new members, but at least there are no hoops

through which new subscribers have to jump. :-) When I tried to join

a for the new Lexus hybrid SUV, I got back a questionnaire

that looked like a clearance for employment with the CIA. (Needless

to say, I decided I could live without it.)

Regards,

> I'm still in " moderator mode " even though I'm not one here. I'd

> strongly suggest always keeping the " new members need their posts

> approved by a moderator " flag on. You will *never* be safe from

> spammers/porn. It just takes awhile between attempts. A group

> moderator can set a member to " unmoderated " individually. This is a

> bit more work for the moderator, although not much more. This

> approach combines the best of all worlds, unmoderating " known " people

> and keeping the uninvited out of the group.

>

>

>

> Btw, this is a personal opinion, but I don't like the idea of a

> moderator having to approve a member joining the group. It just seems

> cold to me. A group is much more inviting if I can join right away.

> But it's Cam's show. I really like having a warm, friendly place to

> come to in times of need or just for socializing. Thanks.

>

> --- In , " cammaltby "

> > I do have the member settings set up initially to approve new

> members

> > posts, but as soon as I can see we haven't drawn the attention of

> the

> > ever active spammers I will reset the member to automatic.

[Guest guest]

Glad you are here, . We really appreciate your experience!

kam

[Guest guest]

,

It is so good to see you here. And as always, words of wisdom!

Txbluebelle

> I'm still in " moderator mode " even though I'm not one here. I'd

> strongly suggest always keeping the " new members need their posts

> approved by a moderator " flag on. You will *never* be safe from

> spammers/porn. It just takes awhile between attempts. A group

> moderator can set a member to " unmoderated " individually. This is

a

> bit more work for the moderator, although not much more. This

> approach combines the best of all worlds, unmoderating " known "

people

> and keeping the uninvited out of the group.

>

>

>

> Btw, this is a personal opinion, but I don't like the idea of a

> moderator having to approve a member joining the group. It just

seems

> cold to me. A group is much more inviting if I can join right

away.

> But it's Cam's show. I really like having a warm, friendly place

to

> come to in times of need or just for socializing. Thanks.

>

> --- In , " cammaltby "

> > I do have the member settings set up initially to approve new

> members

> > posts, but as soon as I can see we haven't drawn the attention of

> the

> > ever active spammers I will reset the member to automatic.

[Guest guest]

Thank you I appreciate all your feedback.

It wasnt my intention to start any brand wars. Just

curious as to who chose what and why - what was the

top reason of their choice. I am familiar with both

brands, well more Nucleus than AB but between the two

I am trying to determine.

I dont mind the charging of batteries as I do this

with my sidekick and pda nightly anyway. I have seen

some CI users around Salt Lake City and they all

appear to be wearing AB - can tell by the long BTE.

I've talked to one fellow.

So AB is upgradable like the Nucleus? I couldnt find

that info - thats whats important to me - that is

upgradable and programmable. And the size of the thing

that must sit behind my ear - probably won't notice

since ive been wearing hearing aids since age 4. But

be nice not having to wear an mold any more - Im so

tired of earmolds and they are painful to make. They

never make em right the first time, always buffed too

small. So it takes 3 or 4 tries and 2 months to get an

earmold right.

Anyway - thanks for all the replies! I have signed up

for BEA and will see what thats all about.

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Welcome ,

I am a Jon also, but spelled different. Most know me by my

nickname " Evel " . As most people on here will tell you, a person can

do well with any of the 3 implants. What you need to do is pick the

one that fits " you " . The Nucleus was " my " choice for the fact that I

did not want to be tethered to a charger. We like to go camping and

90% of the time there is NO electric on site. We also have frequent

power outages at home, as we live in the country. My batteries last 5-

6 Days. I also LOVE to ride snowmobiles and there is no power out in

the wilderness where we ride.

Another point that stuck with me in my search was the reliability of

the Nucleus CI (4 times more reliable than the others) and the fact

that they had the first Implant FDA approved and have had the first

in just about everything else since. The Nucleus also offers the

widest selection of speech stratigies as they realize everyone is

different and do not use the one size fits all theory.

I also went out and met a lot of people with the different implants

so I could see for myself how they did in the real world with their

Implants. In the end I picked the Nucleus and am very glad i did. I

was so pleased i became a Nucleus Vol. advocate so I could help

others. I also Vol. time at Syracuse University doing research with

my CI that hopefully will someday help a lot of people with CI's with

the info. we gain.

The new Freedom also has many new features that sets it apart from

the others including:

SmartSound™ microchip technology is designed to help you enjoy

enhanced hearing performance in a wider range of environments than

ever before. And Nucleus Freedom's unique programming flexibility

gives you four program selections—more than any other brand.

Sweat and splash resistant

The Nucleus Freedom speech processor is designed to withstand

excessive perspiration and humidity, from a day on the slopes to a

run through the sprinkler. This feature, unique to Nucleus Freedom,

makes it the only speech processor that allows you to live your life—

even around water.

Enhanced battery life

With the convenience of commercially available batteries, Nucleus

Freedom lets you go up to four days without changing batteries.

Use the telephone with ease

Unique to Cochlear, a built in telecoil makes talking on the phone

easy. No wires. No plugs. No hassles—just a press of a button.

Do what everyone has suggested and pick the one you think will fit

your lifestyle best.

Good luck with your choice.

You can read my story here:

http://www..com/Images/EvelsStoryPartOne.jpg

http://www..com/Images/EvelsStoryPartTwo.jpg

Cheers,

Evel

Nucleus Vol.

> Thank you I appreciate all your feedback.

>

> It wasnt my intention to start any brand wars. Just

> curious as to who chose what and why - what was the

> top reason of their choice. I am familiar with both

> brands, well more Nucleus than AB but between the two

> I am trying to determine.

>

> I dont mind the charging of batteries as I do this

> with my sidekick and pda nightly anyway. I have seen

> some CI users around Salt Lake City and they all

> appear to be wearing AB - can tell by the long BTE.

> I've talked to one fellow.

>

> So AB is upgradable like the Nucleus? I couldnt find

> that info - thats whats important to me - that is

> upgradable and programmable. And the size of the thing

> that must sit behind my ear - probably won't notice

> since ive been wearing hearing aids since age 4. But

> be nice not having to wear an mold any more - Im so

> tired of earmolds and they are painful to make. They

> never make em right the first time, always buffed too

> small. So it takes 3 or 4 tries and 2 months to get an

> earmold right.

>

> Anyway - thanks for all the replies! I have signed up

> for BEA and will see what thats all about.

>

>

>

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

WELCOME Cami...and all new members!!

[Guest guest]

Dave,

Welcome to the list!

There have been people with 70 dB loss who received a CI. In fact, it's

becoming more common as surgeons and audis are starting to realize just how

much people with some residual hearing can benefit from an implant. I'm also

someone who had some residual hearing before I received my CI. My hearing

loss starts at 90 dB with no measurable hearing aided or unaided at 1000 Hz

and above. There are more and more people with " severe " or " severe-profound "

hearing loss being implanted. There have also been cases where adults and

children with " moderate-severe " hearing loss and auditory neuropathy are

implanted because they cannot benefit from hearing aids. Surgeons and audis

are starting to realize how much people with some residual hearing are

benefiting from the CI. This is good news because it means more people with

severe hearing loss who are in " no man's land " can benefit from this

technology.

Good luck on your CI journey! <smile>

Implanted: 12/22/04 Activated: 1/18/05

Deafblind/Postlingual

BTE hearing aid user 20 years

Severe-profound hearing loss 10 years

[Guest guest]

Thanks so much

All i want is to be able to carry a conversation without

saying " huh? " twenty times and having me and them get frustrated to

repeats and repeats. Nowaday I don't try to listen to other peoples

anymore, it's too hard. I live with my hun and 2 other roommates, so

always a lot of talking going on and laughing and here's me, " what's

funny, tell me, i wanna know! " of course not very funny after

repeating it ten times and then giving up and i still wonder, lol.

They all are behind me in the household, and I love them all for

that, but they just don't even truley understand how hard and

isolated it is and I would never wish it for anyone. So my journey

is beginning and just knowing i can laugh with my family one day all

worth it.

I'm so glad that it came out great for you and so glad to get to

know you. I will definitely keep in touch, as I know no other HOH.

Stacie

> Hi :

>

>

>

> You have come to the best place on the web to find support!

Welcome aboard!

> I am sure you will hear from many others on this list, but I

wanted to offer

> my encouragement to you as you begin this process.

>

>

>

> I certainly understand what you are feeling. It was almost 10

years ago

> that I received my first implant (I am now bilateral). I recall

feeling

> scared and excited at the same time. The biggest and most

important thing

> is to have high hopes, but keep the expectations in check. When I

was

> moving forward my only goal was to hear at least what I was

hearing with my

> HA's, but with less effort! (I was understanding a whopping 6%!)

How is

> that for low expectations?!

>

>

>

> What I have received has been nothing short of a miracle! Trust

me; it did

> not happen right away! Although the computer voices I heard were

> understandable on the first day, they were just not pleasant to

listen to!

> It took about 3-4 months before voices began to sound more like

what I

> remembered.

>

>

>

> Please stay in touch and come here to have your questions and

concerns

> answered. I have shared my story on the WI CI Chapter

> website...http://www.wici.org/static/personal.htm The

story " Do you Hear

> what I Hear " was written two weeks after my implant was activated

in 1996.

> I also wrote " My early Christmas Present " two weeks after

receiving my

> second implant in 2003. Kozlik who is on this list also

wrote a story

> " Out of Silence " .

>

>

>

> Everyone has a different story, which you can find in the archives

of

> . http://www..com/

>

>

>

> Warmly,

>

> Carol in WI

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Everett, I hope that you find the help and support that you need here.However, there are alot of groups out there also. Be strong,research, and keep a since of humor I wish you the very best.peace,mike savage <CACTUSSAVOY@...> wrote: Hello Everett, welcome, you are with right group. theyare an endless source of hope , support. Its a battlebut we can fight it and beat it, hang in there andlearn everything you can knowledge ispower!.......mike savage..." Hepper

"__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Hi

Francine, thanks for replying! It's always difficult to join a list

in the middle of conversations! I haven't had any kids, but the

urologist felt that most of my problems may be due to the nerves

being pinched to the bladder. Some of it was due to muscle tone,

with has affected my digestive muscles (eww - sorry, I won't be more

specific!) That has been attributed to damamged nerves. I don't

think they are common problems people with scoliosis face, but

everything is connected to the spine, so possible! I'd be

interested in hearing from anyone else who has had bowel/digestive

problems or bladder problems. Also, we would love to have

kids...after my next surgery - how has that been for some of you

Moms? Is there anyone on the list who had the Cortrell Doubosett

instrumentation too and has flatback? Just to add about the chair

string of messages - I found that my glider really works for me -

it's not a cheap one, so it's solid, and it allows me to move the

seat forward to ease up.

>

> When you mentioned bladder/bowel problems, my ears perked up. I

don't

> see much discussion of that issue here. Lately, I've been

wondering

> if that might be happening to me-ie. minor urine leakage. Sorry

to be

> gross! My Dr. had routinely asked me if that was happening 6

months

> ago and at the time I said no. It could be my age (47) and having

had

> three children- the old bladder suspension issues many women

have. I

> don't know how you'd tell the diffence.

> Anyways, I know you'll find this group invaluable, a real life

saver.

> Noone else understands as well as us what it feels like.

> Francine

>

[Guest guest]

hi wdmn,you are not alone,cutoffs recently raised to 1000ng/ml,probably still to low...the main thing is that the test alone has no validity legally and used alone as a drinking marker is no longer permitted by any board under SAMHSA advisory... welcome again...regards,r The question of where to set the cutoff for EtG to increase specificity regarding alcoholic beverage use and to decrease sensitivity to avoid detection of what has come to be called “incidental exposure” is frequently asked. Laboratories are currently offering cutoffs of 100, 250, 500 and 1000 ng/mL. These cutoffs have no scientific foundation in terms of identifying beverage alcohol consumption. Early European studies used the cutoff of 100ng/ml because that was the lowest level at which their instrumentation was technically reliable. There are no published studies on the effects of non-beverage alcohol (termed "incidental

alcohol") on EtG levels. There are no large-scale studies that establish that EtG levels in non-drinkers will consistently fall below 100, 250, or even 500ng/ml. That said, it is recommended that each agency select a cutoff that is appropriate based upon their flexibility (in dealing with investigations of false positive claims), sophistication in understanding the concepts, and severity of consequences from a positive test. Agencies must weigh the potential danger to the public against the possibility of a false accusation and the resulting consequences. As with any laboratory test, EtG is meant to be used as a tool in determining alcohol consumption. Other clinical factors should always be considered. wdmn43@... wrote: HI EVERYONE!!!! YOU ALL WILL NEVER KNOW HOW ECXITED I AM TO KNOW ALL THIS HAS COME TO LIGHT. BACK IN OCT 2004-DEC 2004.I CAME UP WITH 4 POSITIVES AS THEY CALL THEM. I AM A REG. DENTAL ASST. AND HAD THE PRIVILEGE TO BE IN DIVERSION WITH ALL YOU RNS.MAXIMUS SAID I WAS GUILTY WANTED TO CHANGE MY CLEAN DATE AND PUT ME IN PATIENT. I MAKE A SAD LITTLE AMOUNT OF MONEY AND BACK THEN I WAS A SINGLE MOM WITH 2 BOYS TRYING TO GET IT RIGHT. I HAVE 3YRS AND 5 MOS CLEAN. I QUIT THE PROGRAM. LAST WEEK I RECIECED A CERTIFIED LETTER FROM TH ATTOURNEY GENERAL. THERE ADDING INNACURATE CHARGES IN ORDER TO REVOKE MY LICENSE.IVE BEEN GOING TO COLLEGE AT NIGHT TO GET MY A.S. TO BECOME A HYGIENIST. WITH ALL THIS

HANGING OVER MY HEAD. I WOULD NEVER BE ABLE TO APPLY FOR ANOTHER LICENSE. SO I GOT ONLINE AND TO MY SURPRISE ALL THIS IS GOING ON OH MY GOSH!!! NOT THAT ITS GOOD BUT IM NOT THE ONLY ONE. YOU HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT DIFFERENT REPORTS ETC. CAN YOU PLEASE REPOST ALL 411. I HAVE A FIGHT ON MY HANDS AND THINK YOU ALL MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP.MY TEST LEVELS EXCEPT FOR ONE WERE QUITE LOW UNDER 800 THE FIRST ONE WAS 2300 I DID NOT DRINK. I READ DR. SKIPPER HAS RAISED THE BAR SOME AND CHANGED THE CUT OFF AM I CORRECT. HAVE A GOOD DAY!!!!

[Guest guest]

-Hi welcome to the group. I am sorry to hear about your pain.I

wasn't sure from your post if you had problems with your neck or in

your back. Although in this group the two seem to go hand in hand. I

know for me letting and asking others to do things for me was one of

the hardest things to do. I fought and fought with that one for a long

time, hurting myself over and over for days because I was too stubborn

to ask or let others do things for me. I never really thought about it

before I had to go thru this but it has made me appreciate what

handicapped and older people have to go thru. And after one neck

surgery and three back ones and almost 7 yrs later I still overdo from

time to time cause I hate asking others for help. But I think most

people learn the hard way its usually not worth doing somethings when

you end up suffering for several days. And my kids even yell at me when

they see me about to do something they know I shouldn't do it makes

me feel bad sometimes but I know they are doing it because they care

and have seen me suffer so much they don't want to see me go thru it

again. SO I try and remember people help me because they do care and

not cause they see me as weak for needing help but to avoid the pain it

can cause later. Still its not easy even after 7 yrs so you are not

alone. Again welcome to the group I pray the shots help you wherever

your pain is. Sharon Group Owner

-- In neck pain , " " <broth49@...> wrote:

>

> I everyone, my name is . I was diagnosed with spinal stenosis

> among other problems with the spine and have suffered since last

> November. I recently had an injection in my spine and the jury is

> still out as to whether it worked or not. Somedays are worse than

> others. It is difficult, I know, for friends and family to

understand

> just how painful this is and I hate relying on others to take care of

> normal everyday things.

>

> I am glad I am here and look forward to getting to know you all.

>

A

[Guest guest]

-Hi welcome to the group. I am sorry to hear about your pain.I

wasn't sure from your post if you had problems with your neck or in

your back. Although in this group the two seem to go hand in hand. I

know for me letting and asking others to do things for me was one of

the hardest things to do. I fought and fought with that one for a long

time, hurting myself over and over for days because I was too stubborn

to ask or let others do things for me. I never really thought about it

before I had to go thru this but it has made me appreciate what

handicapped and older people have to go thru. And after one neck

surgery and three back ones and almost 7 yrs later I still overdo from

time to time cause I hate asking others for help. But I think most

people learn the hard way its usually not worth doing somethings when

you end up suffering for several days. And my kids even yell at me when

they see me about to do something they know I shouldn't do it makes

me feel bad sometimes but I know they are doing it because they care

and have seen me suffer so much they don't want to see me go thru it

again. SO I try and remember people help me because they do care and

not cause they see me as weak for needing help but to avoid the pain it

can cause later. Still its not easy even after 7 yrs so you are not

alone. Again welcome to the group I pray the shots help you wherever

your pain is. Sharon Group Owner

-- In neck pain , " " <broth49@...> wrote:

>

> I everyone, my name is . I was diagnosed with spinal stenosis

> among other problems with the spine and have suffered since last

> November. I recently had an injection in my spine and the jury is

> still out as to whether it worked or not. Somedays are worse than

> others. It is difficult, I know, for friends and family to

understand

> just how painful this is and I hate relying on others to take care of

> normal everyday things.

>

> I am glad I am here and look forward to getting to know you all.

>

A

[Guest guest]

-Hi welcome to the group. I am sorry to hear about your pain.I

wasn't sure from your post if you had problems with your neck or in

your back. Although in this group the two seem to go hand in hand. I

know for me letting and asking others to do things for me was one of

the hardest things to do. I fought and fought with that one for a long

time, hurting myself over and over for days because I was too stubborn

to ask or let others do things for me. I never really thought about it

before I had to go thru this but it has made me appreciate what

handicapped and older people have to go thru. And after one neck

surgery and three back ones and almost 7 yrs later I still overdo from

time to time cause I hate asking others for help. But I think most

people learn the hard way its usually not worth doing somethings when

you end up suffering for several days. And my kids even yell at me when

they see me about to do something they know I shouldn't do it makes

me feel bad sometimes but I know they are doing it because they care

and have seen me suffer so much they don't want to see me go thru it

again. SO I try and remember people help me because they do care and

not cause they see me as weak for needing help but to avoid the pain it

can cause later. Still its not easy even after 7 yrs so you are not

alone. Again welcome to the group I pray the shots help you wherever

your pain is. Sharon Group Owner

-- In neck pain , " " <broth49@...> wrote:

>

> I everyone, my name is . I was diagnosed with spinal stenosis

> among other problems with the spine and have suffered since last

> November. I recently had an injection in my spine and the jury is

> still out as to whether it worked or not. Somedays are worse than

> others. It is difficult, I know, for friends and family to

understand

> just how painful this is and I hate relying on others to take care of

> normal everyday things.

>

> I am glad I am here and look forward to getting to know you all.

>

A