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We got that figure from DFCS but it is the amount charged to clients living

in residential care . That figure was the same in PA and in GA and I do

think (but cannot document) that it is a Social Security rule that NO MORE

than 72% can be taken for rent. The rest is to be used for personal care.

All of you do know that if you are fiscal payee you will be sending in a

required yearly report of money?? My husband keeps track of rent and

expenditures so that he cana fill out the 4 pages each year (we just got one

this week.)

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>

> Hi Sara,

> where did you get the 72% number for charging rent? I had a feeling we

> should be increasing 's but wasn't sure.

> Thanks for the help

> Sherry

>

> >>>>>>SSI amount takes into account what he has to pay - really stupid.

> Make sure

> you charge him rent. IF you charge him rent - take the top amount he could

> get and charge him 72% of that amount for rent. <<<<<

>

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Our annual report is one page and receives the max amount. When he was 18

y/o, only received the minimum because I did not report that he contribute to

room and board. Once he had turn 19 y/o went back to the SSI office. Told them

that started to contribute his portion of the household expenses.

I have attended 2 training session with a fellow here in Texas name

Scarborugh and found out at each time, he would ask the families attending how

many of their individual with disAbilities were receiving the maximum amount and

there were only 2 of us out of maybe 50 attending.

Thanks to one of my friends who guided me here.

Irma,21,DS/ASD

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> >

> >

> > Hi Sara,

> > where did you get the 72% number for charging rent? I had a feeling we

> > should be increasing 's but wasn't sure.

> > Thanks for the help

> > Sherry

> >

> > >>>>>>SSI amount takes into account what he has to pay - really stupid.

> > Make sure

> > you charge him rent. IF you charge him rent - take the top amount he could

> > get and charge him 72% of that amount for rent. <<<<<

> >

> >

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Sara, I love the fact how your dh helps here. This sure helps staying on tabs of

these expenses and services.

Irma

>

> zzzzzyup. that's why Elie gets the maximum. But it changed 2 years after

> his Dad retired. Now he gets SSD and SSI supplements to the maximum allowed

> AND he was changed to Medicare- with Medicaid paying the prmium for

> MEdicare. So he now has MEdicare, MEdicaid and our military retiree

> insurance.

>

> Elie's report is one piece of paper, but has 4 sides to it as it is folded

> in the middle.

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Alrighty then,

looks like is getting a rent increase this year. She gets the max of $674

but I've only been charging her $350. The 72% would be $485 or so!! So I guess

it's time to change. I wonder if raising it gradually would be better? Will the

increase be raising any red flags I wonder?

Talked to dh and indeed, he has filled out the SSI form for the past 2 years.

Irma what are you charging for room and board/rent?

Margaret....I told you privately last year or more ago how we went about getting

the increase in SSI to the max...it took some finagling and perseverence but it

finally worked.

Re: guardianship....I wish we had gone with the simple version of DPOA etc. but

we got some bad advice and were really in a bind as was due for a medical

procedure; a " friend " dropped the ball and we got stuck going for plenary

guardianship...which is a real PIA as we have to fill out a bookful of forms and

fork over $400 every year in addition to the 3 grand it cost us at the

beginning.

Right about now...with all of dh's medical bills and insurance claims rolling

in, 's CDC medwaiver paperwork being due, SSI records, homeschooling

records, behavior data, medical records for jamie changing to " adult " doctors

etc. etc. I feel like I'm drowning in paperwork.

Sherry

YES - if you xcharge too little, the amount of SSi is REDUCED - doesn't make

sense but there it is.

We get a form from SS once a year it is folded and has four sides.

We DO NOT have guardianship =- looking at Tx and the mess with guardianship,

I am soooo glad we didn;t go that route. Bob is just the fiscal agent or

representative payee for SS.

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Sara,

sorry to be obtuse but what is a COLA?? and how does he get it and from whom?

Sherry

>

> >

> >

> > Alrighty then,

> > looks like is getting a rent increase this year. She gets the max of

> > $674 but I've only been charging her $350. The 72% would be $485 or so!! So

> > I guess it's time to change. I wonder if raising it gradually would be

> > better? Will the increase be raising any red flags I wonder?

> >

> > Talked to dh and indeed, he has filled out the SSI form for the past 2

> > years.

> >

> > Irma what are you charging for room and board/rent?

> >

> > Margaret....I told you privately last year or more ago how we went about

> > getting the increase in SSI to the max...it took some finagling and

> > perseverence but it finally worked.

> >

> > Re: guardianship....I wish we had gone with the simple version of DPOA etc.

> > but we got some bad advice and were really in a bind as was due for a

> > medical procedure; a " friend " dropped the ball and we got stuck going for

> > plenary guardianship...which is a real PIA as we have to fill out a bookful

> > of forms and fork over $400 every year in addition to the 3 grand it cost us

> > at the beginning.

> >

> > Right about now...with all of dh's medical bills and insurance claims

> > rolling in, 's CDC medwaiver paperwork being due, SSI records,

> > homeschooling records, behavior data, medical records for jamie changing to

> > " adult " doctors etc. etc. I feel like I'm drowning in paperwork.

> >

> > Sherry

> >

> > YES - if you xcharge too little, the amount of SSi is REDUCED - doesn't

> > make

> > sense but there it is.

> >

> > We get a form from SS once a year it is folded and has four sides.

> >

> > We DO NOT have guardianship =- looking at Tx and the mess with

> > guardianship,

> > I am soooo glad we didn;t go that route. Bob is just the fiscal agent or

> > representative payee for SS.

> >

> >

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COLA - cost of living (not sure what the A is for). Happens once a year on

SSI, but news says there will be none for the next 2 years.

>

>

> Sara,

> sorry to be obtuse but what is a COLA?? and how does he get it and from

> whom?

> Sherry

>

>

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > Alrighty then,

> > > looks like is getting a rent increase this year. She gets the max

> of

> > > $674 but I've only been charging her $350. The 72% would be $485 or

> so!! So

> > > I guess it's time to change. I wonder if raising it gradually would be

> > > better? Will the increase be raising any red flags I wonder?

> > >

> > > Talked to dh and indeed, he has filled out the SSI form for the past 2

> > > years.

> > >

> > > Irma what are you charging for room and board/rent?

> > >

> > > Margaret....I told you privately last year or more ago how we went

> about

> > > getting the increase in SSI to the max...it took some finagling and

> > > perseverence but it finally worked.

> > >

> > > Re: guardianship....I wish we had gone with the simple version of DPOA

> etc.

> > > but we got some bad advice and were really in a bind as was due

> for a

> > > medical procedure; a " friend " dropped the ball and we got stuck going

> for

> > > plenary guardianship...which is a real PIA as we have to fill out a

> bookful

> > > of forms and fork over $400 every year in addition to the 3 grand it

> cost us

> > > at the beginning.

> > >

> > > Right about now...with all of dh's medical bills and insurance claims

> > > rolling in, 's CDC medwaiver paperwork being due, SSI records,

> > > homeschooling records, behavior data, medical records for jamie

> changing to

> > > " adult " doctors etc. etc. I feel like I'm drowning in paperwork.

> > >

> > > Sherry

> > >

> > > YES - if you xcharge too little, the amount of SSi is REDUCED - doesn't

> > > make

> > > sense but there it is.

> > >

> > > We get a form from SS once a year it is folded and has four sides.

> > >

> > > We DO NOT have guardianship =- looking at Tx and the mess with

> > > guardianship,

> > > I am soooo glad we didn;t go that route. Bob is just the fiscal agent

> or

> > > representative payee for SS.

> > >

> > >

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Whoops - comes form SS and requires no action from you. Note however, that

if and when your child gets MEDICARE the premioum will probably take most of

the COLA.

>

>

> Sara,

> sorry to be obtuse but what is a COLA?? and how does he get it and from

> whom?

> Sherry

>

>

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > Alrighty then,

> > > looks like is getting a rent increase this year. She gets the max

> of

> > > $674 but I've only been charging her $350. The 72% would be $485 or

> so!! So

> > > I guess it's time to change. I wonder if raising it gradually would be

> > > better? Will the increase be raising any red flags I wonder?

> > >

> > > Talked to dh and indeed, he has filled out the SSI form for the past 2

> > > years.

> > >

> > > Irma what are you charging for room and board/rent?

> > >

> > > Margaret....I told you privately last year or more ago how we went

> about

> > > getting the increase in SSI to the max...it took some finagling and

> > > perseverence but it finally worked.

> > >

> > > Re: guardianship....I wish we had gone with the simple version of DPOA

> etc.

> > > but we got some bad advice and were really in a bind as was due

> for a

> > > medical procedure; a " friend " dropped the ball and we got stuck going

> for

> > > plenary guardianship...which is a real PIA as we have to fill out a

> bookful

> > > of forms and fork over $400 every year in addition to the 3 grand it

> cost us

> > > at the beginning.

> > >

> > > Right about now...with all of dh's medical bills and insurance claims

> > > rolling in, 's CDC medwaiver paperwork being due, SSI records,

> > > homeschooling records, behavior data, medical records for jamie

> changing to

> > > " adult " doctors etc. etc. I feel like I'm drowning in paperwork.

> > >

> > > Sherry

> > >

> > > YES - if you xcharge too little, the amount of SSi is REDUCED - doesn't

> > > make

> > > sense but there it is.

> > >

> > > We get a form from SS once a year it is folded and has four sides.

> > >

> > > We DO NOT have guardianship =- looking at Tx and the mess with

> > > guardianship,

> > > I am soooo glad we didn;t go that route. Bob is just the fiscal agent

> or

> > > representative payee for SS.

> > >

> > >

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> Irma what are you charging for room and board/rent?

I do not have my notebook in front of me right now but I want to say about

$375.00. I recently been sharing this with several friends as most of their

individuals with disAbilities are only receiving the minimal as they were

wondering how I did it for my son to receive the max.

Ok, Texans if your individual is only receiving the minimum, here is my

information that was shared my way. This is back when my son was 19 y/0, which

still works the same but the numbers have changed.

I'll leave as is with leaving my son's name XXXXXX. Remember this is when it use

to be $415 as an example.

RE:

Anyways... to make it short and simple... You need to go to Social Security

Office...

Tell them that XXXXXX started to contribute his portion of the household

expenses....

The household expenses are:

Mortgage

CPS

Water

Groceries

How much of each do you spend a month.... example... say.....

Mortgage: $1000.00

CPS: $200.00

Water: $50.00

Groceries: $250.00

Then you divide this total by total number living in the house... and that is

xxxxxx's portion of household expenses.... You cannot have the total go over

what you are currently receiving in SSI already. You said he gets $415 a month

right now... if the total is over that $415... then you can just tell them that

you have xxxxxx pay you a " flat " room and board fee of maybe around $375 or

$350.

Once you fill this paperwork out with SSI... it's real simple... go in. They

will increase your SSI to the maximum which is around $615 or so. When you fill

out his SSI report at the end of the year... don't forget to document what his

room and board is..... Right now he only gets the $400 because you do not say he

pays rent and his portion of the bills... so this is considered Free Room and

Board....

I was amazed how simple this went for us.

Irma,21,DS/ASD

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