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A sipt and praxis evaluation by a licensed ot therapist with certification

in administering this evaluation, would determine specifically what areas

of the sensory and praxis area are affected and require ot therapy in this

area. I would get the evaluation done privately, and not by a school ot,

even if he/she is sipt and praxis certified. School based evaluations tend to

have a tendency to not accurately pinpoint a child's areas of need, and you

also have to keep in mind, that DIAGNOSING a condition or disability is

for the MEDICAL SETTING PROFESSIONALS, and never to be done by anyone in the

educational setting.

Just A mom,

MG

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Fri Sep 11, 2009 3:22 pm (PDT)

Watching the same video over and over and especailly that dreaded TRS (Tape

Rewind Syndrome) are also stimming behavior. As is having to touch

something the samea way or look at the hand in a certain position.

Elie used to hit the wall as he walked in school or in a mall. He also

StTILL will bend his hand in a weird way and then look at it or hit it with

his other hand. And OMG - you best not try to imitate him or interfere with

that behavior.

There are many stim behaviors besides the twirling. Elie never twirled

anything, but he floated paper off air vents. Or made dust float in front

of fans (Yes - I have dust in my house!) HE has certain babies (stuffed

toys) that he grsps in the back and shakes high and low in a repatitive

manner - that's stimming as well.

On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 6:03 PM, nevergrowingup59 <

_nevergrowingup59@nevergrow_ (mailto:nevergrowingup59@...) > wrote:

>

>

> I just read on an autism board about stimming. Emelinne no longer does it

> but when she was younger she was obssessed with jump ropes, men's ties,

and

> any type of belt. She would play with them forever, just twisting and

> twirling. It seems she always had to be touching something. She still

has to

> be touching something but not those things. Also, she will watch the

same

> tape or dvd over and over again. Is this considered stimming? I don't

think

> this is typical Down Syndrome behavior.

>

>

>

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Fri Sep 11, 2009 3:31 pm (PDT)

Wow. I don't understand why no one ever labeled her with sensory

integration disorder or whatever it is called. I wonder why none of her

teachers

picked up on that sort of stuff. I wonder what else she has. I can't take her

into an auditorium or gym if there is something going on. She doesn't like

certain stores. In NY she was in an ABA class or something like that. Here

in NC she is in an AU class which is perfect for her. I don't understand

why the psychologist said she wasn't autistic.

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > > I just read on an autism board about stimming. Emelinne no longer

does

> it

>

> > > but when she was younger she was obssessed with jump ropes, men's

ties,

> and

>

> > > any type of belt. She would play with them forever, just twisting and

>

> > > twirling. It seems she always had to be touching something. She

still

> has to

>

> > > be touching something but not those things. Also, she will watch the

> same

>

> > > tape or dvd over and over again. Is this considered stimming? I

don't

> think

>

> > > this is typical Down Syndrome behavior.

>

> > >

>

> > >

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> > >

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> >

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> > Sara -To Life!

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School based testing is for seeing if the disability affects school based

activities. And let us not forget things which affect SCHOOL BASED

activities are all that they will treat in most S/D. So if fine motor is an

issue, they will maybe teach handwriting. If walking is an issue, they will

work on walking so that a child can walk in the hall.

For some strange reason, altho my son had very high sensory needs, only one

OT in all his years of schooling could make the great argument that his

sensory needs were such that they AFFECTED his ability to learn!

>

>

> A sipt and praxis evaluation by a licensed ot therapist with certification

> in administering this evaluation, would determine specifically what areas

> of the sensory and praxis area are affected and require ot therapy in this

> area. I would get the evaluation done privately, and not by a school ot,

> even if he/she is sipt and praxis certified. School based evaluations tend

> to

> have a tendency to not accurately pinpoint a child's areas of need, and you

>

> also have to keep in mind, that DIAGNOSING a condition or disability is

> for the MEDICAL SETTING PROFESSIONALS, and never to be done by anyone in

> the

> educational setting.

> Just A mom,

> MG

>

>

> In a message dated 9/11/2009 8:01:48 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

> writes:

>

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> 1c.

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> Grundulis

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> 4b.

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> Cohen

> 5.

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> 6.

> _????choking and stimming_ (mip://0284d4e8/default.html#6) From: laurie

> xx

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> Desi McKenzie

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> Sara Cohen

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> 9.

> _/Diagnosing DS/ASD_ (mip://0284d4e8/default.html#9) From: Sara Cohen

> 10.

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> Fri Sep 11, 2009 3:22 pm (PDT)

>

> Watching the same video over and over and especailly that dreaded TRS (Tape

> Rewind Syndrome) are also stimming behavior. As is having to touch

> something the samea way or look at the hand in a certain position.

>

> Elie used to hit the wall as he walked in school or in a mall. He also

> StTILL will bend his hand in a weird way and then look at it or hit it with

> his other hand. And OMG - you best not try to imitate him or interfere with

> that behavior.

>

> There are many stim behaviors besides the twirling. Elie never twirled

> anything, but he floated paper off air vents. Or made dust float in front

> of fans (Yes - I have dust in my house!) HE has certain babies (stuffed

> toys) that he grsps in the back and shakes high and low in a repatitive

> manner - that's stimming as well.

>

> On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 6:03 PM, nevergrowingup59 <

> _nevergrowingup59@nevergrow_

(mailto:nevergrowingup59@...<nevergrowingup59%40yahoo.com>)

> > wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > I just read on an autism board about stimming. Emelinne no longer does it

> > but when she was younger she was obssessed with jump ropes, men's ties,

> and

> > any type of belt. She would play with them forever, just twisting and

> > twirling. It seems she always had to be touching something. She still

> has to

> > be touching something but not those things. Also, she will watch the

> same

> > tape or dvd over and over again. Is this considered stimming? I don't

> think

> > this is typical Down Syndrome behavior.

> >

> >

> >

>

> --

> Sara -To Life!

>

>