ABA

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Loyd -

Applied Behavior Analysis.

It's breaking things down into small steps to teach a skill, and

doing physical prompts to guide them through the steps

and then fading off and letting them do it themselves.

1 on 1 several times during a day.

Sandi

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> I am interested in the ABA teaching techniques. Can you inform me?

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> Loyd

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We have had Steph in an " integrated " school setting for 9 yrs. where she has

been welcomed,accepted, loved & cared for, but I'm sorry to say, not really

educated or challenged the way she might have been.

Gordon, we are starting to contemplate somthing similair, but nathan gets

challenged etc very well is learning to read etc, is 9yrs old, our prob is

that as he gets older he falls farther behind his peers, and the school

keeps trying to keep him wiht his peers, I agree we have seen many benefits

on both sides of the integration view, but how much is nathan really

understanding in that third grade classroom, he attends all specials with

them but is also attending music and art with the kprep kids too, soo gets

double the specials. He does his academics in a resource room type setting

where all the kids who need help in one thing or another go certain times of

day, he does them on a computer, they call it ILS, have to find out what

that means,lol, academically is around k-1st grade level in reading and

math, math is very hard for him, but it is for another boy same age with ds

there too. Anyways, sorry to get off the subeject, we are kinda thinking of

more of a self contained classroom and continue with specials with peers,

but our school doesnt have one, The idea was again brought up at the

parent/teacher meeting so we must continue to wait and see. shawna.

ABA

> Dear Sherry

> Your post from yesterday (Feb.8) gave me a hope & a lot to think

about. I'm one of those Moms who has dreams where her child is speaking,

but when your child is 13 & you've seen a certain pattern of development,

it's really hard to believe that it could happen. As many of you know, we

have lived through the leukemia thing, which involved 3 years of

concentrating on keeping alive, let alone anything else! We have

provided with private swimming lessons, music therapy & speech

therapy. Now we are faced with the challenge of getting her diagnosed with

autism as well as D.S., so that we can access some more services for her.

So far we have no professionals who see this side of her the way we do.

They keep saying, " She's simply a very low-functioning child with D.S. " as if

we are

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Dear ~ God bless you for making it thru the leukemia nightmare!

If it is any consolation at all our biggest setbacks and barriers have

always been 's medical problems. I find myself saying right now " oh

she's finally moving forward...if ONLY we can stay out of the hospital

this year. " I spent last year virtually paralyzed by depression and in

bed while that ever present clock ticked away on 's future. I'm 52

years old and have alot of medical issues going on myelf. She had a

second open heart surgery at 7 followed by severe infection that set her

back to stage zero. Then there has been celiac, uncontrollable

allergies, GI bleed resulting in transfusions last year. I don't know

why some of us get more to deal with than others. I don't know how a

friend of mine handles her 30 year old son (not DS) who is still in

diapers and immobile. I don't know how the moms of kids with seizure

disorders deal with it. This may be as good as it gets for us and she

may come down with some new crazy disease tomorrow. Because we've always

homeschooled and I know firsthand about burnout please don't think am

working an intensive program with her~ I don't think she or I could take

it. I have just seen her start to learn...finally! from this particular

method, which may or may not work for anyone else. I mean I thought I

was gonna faint when she actually grasped the idea of matching an

identical picture to another. I'm sure most kiddos even with the dual dx

have been able to do this long ago. None of us has failed our children

tho, believe me I know the feeling well. I began to believe that God had

failed us and that was the worst. Sorry gotta get a hok gog now. (hot

dog) Sherry

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In a message dated 2/9/01 5:03:01 PM Eastern Standard Time,

burnett@... writes:

<< The whole area of Sensory Integration is one field which has never been

investigated for . Now we're on a waiting list which is about

6-mos. long to get her assessed by an O.T. Whether that O.T. will be

experienced & knowledgeable reagrding S.I. is another story. Anyway, I feel

as though I owe it to & to myself to investigate ABA & see if it

might be an option for us. However, I'm afraid to even start to get

information about it because I'm afraid I wouldn't be able to " keep up " with

the routine of it. I feel as though I've failed my child by not insisting on

more services for her. I'm venting & wallowing a bit, too. Thanks for

listening, everyone. >>

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Certainly, You've NOT failed !!! As you said you guys have been

through hell and back, just trying to keep her alive. As far as the SI

stuff goes, there are certain training courses that an OT must have achieved

in order to practice sensory integration. Maddie's SI therapist, IMO, is a

genius. But numerous times, we had others when Jeanetta couldn't take

Maddie, and some were quite flighty. I think you just have to go by your

gut, follow your instincts, and essentially stick with what is working.

donna

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In a message dated 2/11/01 12:13:12 PM Eastern Standard Time,

burnett@... writes:

<< Hi Sherry, Donna, Joan, Gail & anyone else who's child is doing ABA:

Do you recommend ABA4All as a good place to start to get info on ABA?

I'm a little hesitant to join another " list " . I'd appreciate your input.

Thanks.

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I am not doing ABA with Seth yet, and I'm still trying to gather info too. I

did join ABA4ALL a couple of weeks ago, but my membership is still pending.

I ended up joining 5 other lists last night, and got acceptance letters

already from them. Wow, have you seen that there are almost 500 groups on

special education? Gads!!!! Got through 250 of them last night. I went

through all the down syndrome lists and most of the autism lists as well. I

think 4 months to prepare isn't going to be long enough! LOL I'm going to

hit the library tomorrow and see what I can find. I want to know all the

pros AND cons of it. I just feel in my gut that there is more in Seth then

TEACH and PECS is bringing out. I know I have to try something else. From

what I have read, I will have to do a modified version of ABA for sure. The

reward part seems the toughest to me, as there is NOTHING that Seth cares

about, other than his shoe and videos. No candy, food or items would even

draw his attention, let alone be a *reward*. Keep us posted on what you

learn ? Seems to me someone on this list has a one on one aide paid

for by Medicaid too. I am going to check this out next month when I see

Seth's advocate again. That sure would be a help when I keep him home.

Gail

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~ the ABA4all list doen't appear to be attracting much traffic AT

ALL. I would try the Yahoo DTT-NET group- not too busy but you get

access to great archives and files where you can read up at your

" leisure " haha.The MeList is very strict ABA but has a wealth or

archival info too.

Neither one is very big and is especially doable on digest. Joan Medlen

is the only one with a huge gigantic list that is impossible to keep up

with. LOL Sherry

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In a message dated 2/11/01 8:04:50 PM Eastern Standard Time,

jmedlen@... writes:

<< geez...I " m answering myself:

I gotta find a way to get Andy to come to US, huh.

Ok...so it' was a start.

j

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Oh Joan. You sure made it sound fun enough; he will.

Donna

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Interested in hearing about what type of school programs have been successful

for other kids. Any luck with ABA?

Ben will be 5 this summer,entering kindergarden, but will probably be in small

group with other kids on the spectrum. Is this usually advantageous if the right

teaching methods are used? Has integration been effective?

Would love to hear any thoughts/experiences you guys have had!

Thanks!

Sue

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My sons ABA therapist does Verbal ABA and my son has responded very well. I wish

the schools here would teach verbal ABA because my son responds to this type of

learning.In preschool and kindergarden my son was included with NT kids. Then My

son was placed in a regular classroom for 30 minutes a day but he would become

disruptive with his screaming his happy scream. Now my son goes to a public

special needs school and is in a classroom of about 8 special needs kids. I wish

he could be intergrated but he could not keep up with the work. Cyndi B

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> Interested in hearing about what type of school programs have been successful

for other kids. Any luck with ABA?

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> Ben will be 5 this summer,entering kindergarden, but will probably be in small

group with other kids on the spectrum. Is this usually advantageous if the right

teaching methods are used? Has integration been effective?

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> Would love to hear any thoughts/experiences you guys have had!

> Thanks!

> Sue

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Hi Sue,

My son, , currently attends an ABA based program in NJ called the

Developmental Learning Center. Their website is:www.mujc.org. attends the

Warren campus. DLC has two other locations in northern NJ; Union and New

Providence.

This program is for students 3 - 21 who fall on the autistic spectrum. is

in the pre-school class where the ratio is 1:1. The ratio becomes 2:1 in the

primary classes to foster more independence.

receives OT, SP and PT several times a week as well. (Our local school

district contracts for some of these services). They have 2 olympic swimming

pools, a track, beautiful art/music rooms and a gym. In addition, the school has

a virtual Main St. that includes a diner, TD Bank, Shop-Rite, laundromat, an

apt., etc. where the students learn the vocational skills that are necessary for

transition at 21. They are exposed to this environment starting at age 10.

We have been impressed with the staff who are skillfully trained and collaborate

very well with one another. The Developmental Learning Center is part of the

Union Jointure Commission (comprised of 24 local school districts) and is

considered a public school. The school encourages parent visits and has a host

of activities throughout the year that families can participate in, as well as a

very active parent group.

is currently the second student in the Warren location who is dually

diagnosed. He just started there after the new year, and so far, so good.

We are pleased with his progress....he is doing well with discrete trials, PECs

and has started to make a connection with the other children.

Like most families on the list, it is really one year at a time, as far as our

childrens' education is concerned, as their needs constantly change, and your

not guaranteed that the staff who works with them are experienced or are

motivated to try to help our kids.

NJ is one of the top ten states in the nation for special schools for children

with autism. The incidence of autism is higher here vs. the national average,

which is probably due (at least in part) to families relocating here for the

schools.

Best of luck to you and your family.

Mom to , 5 yrs. old

DS/PDD-NOS

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From: susankgross@...

Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 00:58:31 +0000

Subject: ABA

Interested in hearing about what type of school programs have been successful

for other kids. Any luck with ABA?

Ben will be 5 this summer,entering kindergarden, but will probably be in small

group with other kids on the spectrum. Is this usually advantageous if the right

teaching methods are used? Has integration been effective?

Would love to hear any thoughts/experiences you guys have had!

Thanks!

Sue