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Hi, Mic has a reaction to antibiotics I call the crazies hes never himself when

hes taking them, we ask our Ped if instead of oral pills or liquids he can

sometimes give him a shot.Works alot better, Mic also had tonsils adnoids and

eartubes a couple yrs ago and it stopped the runny noses ear infection and now

we are down 2 a couple times a yr and no ear infections.Mic was sick constantly

before he had that done.Just some thoughts your not alone. Laurie

To: @...: leilani.aguirre@...: Thu, 29 Jan

2009 14:55:03 +0000Subject: Don't know what to do

Well guys, Im having issues with my little guy again, and Im at my wits end. If

you remember, Noah was in the hospital with staph in Nov. Since hes been out, he

had been doing fine, but most recently he has had a really bad runny nose and

congestion. He was given an antibiotic and cough meds, which he took well, but

he got worse. So he was given another cough med and a stronger antibiotic.

Problem is, the stronger the med, the worse the taste, so we've been having

problems getting him to take them. On top of that, he behavior torwards himself

has gotten hard to watch. He is regressing as far as as im concerned. Its been

awhile since he's been this aggressive and abusive. I am wondering if there is

anything in teh meds thta is affecting him or his diet. I have no idea. I am

worried for his safety and Im afraid that his congestion will turn into

pnemonia. Im at a loss, dont know what to do. any advice would be greatly

appreciated. The school keeps sending him home, and they just called because

they were seeing self abusive behavior as well, and they too were wondering what

was going on. Help. LEilani

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Leilani,

When a stap infection occurs with my son, antibiotics are given but it

is highly recommended to also give along some type of

Probiotics, no dairy at all.

Sounds like the yeast beast is triggering off so much on what you are

describing.

Over at Whole Foods if possible purchase something like a Milk-Free

Chewable Acidophilus, just ask one of the workers to help assist.

When Mold is high out here in TX (triggers off sinus infection)or

Mountain Cedar (environmental allergies) with the combination of the

flu bug going on, this does not help our kids with a weak immune system.

He is going to regress as he is unable to function when under the

weather.

Unable to communicate so this triggers off his behavioral modes.

Seems like he is affected this season with all that is going on.

See what happens with the probiotics, no dairy and hopefully you're

giving him the gluten-free food if any appetite with plenty of fluids.

Once he seems well, see about getting him tested for Candida/Yeast

Overgrowth so that one of the doc's could treat this, this requires

prescribed meds.

One way to rule this out is the trial of elimination of certain food

items.

The test call OAT could be reviewed at

http://www.greatplainslaboratory.com/home/eng/home.asp

Commonly caused by phenols and/or yeast overgrowth.

What helped decrease, was also epsom salt baths before bed, start with

1/4 c epsom salts and work up to 2 c for a bathtub full. Also reduce

high phenolic food intake. Make sure no high-blood pressure.

http://www.danasview.net/phenol.htm

http://www.danasview.net/yeast.htm

Artificial (colors/flavors/sweeteners), concentrated

apple (sauce or juice) and red grapes, also triggers off the yeast beast.

Every child is different though, you have to figure out what works

best for your child. Keeping a daily diary helps to figure this out.

Well, hope something helps.

Irma,20,DS/ASD

>

> Well guys,

> Im having issues with my little guy again, and Im at my wits end. If

> you remember, Noah was in the hospital with staph in Nov. Since hes

> been out, he had been doing fine, but most recently he has had a really

> bad runny nose and congestion. He was given an antibiotic and cough

> meds, which he took well, but he got worse. So he was given another

> cough med and a stronger antibiotic. Problem is, the stronger the med,

> the worse the taste, so we've been having problems getting him to take

> them. On top of that, he behavior torwards himself has gotten hard to

> watch. He is regressing as far as as im concerned. Its been awhile

> since he's been this aggressive and abusive. I am wondering if there is

> anything in teh meds thta is affecting him or his diet. I have no idea.

> I am worried for his safety and Im afraid that his congestion will turn

> into pnemonia. Im at a loss, dont know what to do. any advice would be

> greatly appreciated. The school keeps sending him home, and they just

> called because they were seeing self abusive behavior as well, and they

> too were wondering what was going on. Help. LEilani

>

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Hi,

 

Sorry to hear you're having such a rough time.  I don't know if this will work

or not for your little guy, but we have gone through some similar things in the

past with the endless calls from school, non stop congestion & runny nose.  For

the last *month* or so, we've finally gotten rid of it.  We started giving Dylan

claritin everynight & it's really helped greatly.  Seems kind of like a simple

solution, but for Dylan, so far, it's working.  Certainly hasn't cured it

completely, still have to wipe his nose now and then, but not the constant

drainage. 

 

We're still having really bad aggression issues and are working with changing

some of his other meds around. 

 

Good luck - just thought I'd share what has been working for us.

 

Becky

mom to Dylan, 13 DS/Autism/Diabetes

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Date: Thursday, January 29, 2009, 8:55 AM

Well guys,

Im having issues with my little guy again, and Im at my wits end. If

you remember, Noah was in the hospital with staph in Nov. Since hes

been out, he had been doing fine, but most recently he has had a really

bad runny nose and congestion. He was given an antibiotic and cough

meds, which he took well, but he got worse. So he was given another

cough med and a stronger antibiotic. Problem is, the stronger the med,

the worse the taste, so we've been having problems getting him to take

them. On top of that, he behavior torwards himself has gotten hard to

watch. He is regressing as far as as im concerned. Its been awhile

since he's been this aggressive and abusive. I am wondering if there is

anything in teh meds thta is affecting him or his diet. I have no idea.

I am worried for his safety and Im afraid that his congestion will turn

into pnemonia. Im at a loss, dont know what to do. any advice would be

greatly appreciated. The school keeps sending him home, and they just

called because they were seeing self abusive behavior as well, and they

too were wondering what was going on. Help. LEilani

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It is always so hard when our kids are sick! Just wanted to throw my two cents

in - my oldest is allergic to red dye. Red dye is in most of the antibiotics.

I'm not sure how I found out he was allergic to red dye - it didn't come out in

the tests but everytime he had something red he would act the same way he does

if he has something he is allergic to. I guess technically I am just supposed

to say that he is sensitive to red dyes. There was another study done in the UK

on red dyes, somebody posted it here, as to how it causes irritability and

aggression. Wonder if they would be willing to give you a dye free antibiotic?

I told our pediatrician that Isaac can't handle red dyes and they started giving

us antibiotics without red dyes.

The one time I forgot it was a disaster and the next day I went back for dye

free antibiotics.

Good Luck!

Lori, Mom to Isaac and Tony, both DS and ASD

---- " leilani.aguirre " wrote:

> Well guys,

> Im having issues with my little guy again, and Im at my wits end. If

> you remember, Noah was in the hospital with staph in Nov. Since hes

> been out, he had been doing fine, but most recently he has had a really

> bad runny nose and congestion. He was given an antibiotic and cough

> meds, which he took well, but he got worse. So he was given another

> cough med and a stronger antibiotic. Problem is, the stronger the med,

> the worse the taste, so we've been having problems getting him to take

> them. On top of that, he behavior torwards himself has gotten hard to

> watch. He is regressing as far as as im concerned. Its been awhile

> since he's been this aggressive and abusive. I am wondering if there is

> anything in teh meds thta is affecting him or his diet. I have no idea.

> I am worried for his safety and Im afraid that his congestion will turn

> into pnemonia. Im at a loss, dont know what to do. any advice would be

> greatly appreciated. The school keeps sending him home, and they just

> called because they were seeing self abusive behavior as well, and they

> too were wondering what was going on. Help. LEilani

>

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Hi Leilani

I really feel for you. My daughter's behaviours always change when she is on

new medication. Especially antibiotics and steriods. I hope you can figure

things out soon.

Ali

" leilani.aguirre " wrote:

Well guys,

Im having issues with my little guy again, and Im at my wits end. If

you remember, Noah was in the hospital with staph in Nov. Since hes

been out, he had been doing fine, but most recently he has had a really

bad runny nose and congestion. He was given an antibiotic and cough

meds, which he took well, but he got worse. So he was given another

cough med and a stronger antibiotic. Problem is, the stronger the med,

the worse the taste, so we've been having problems getting him to take

them. On top of that, he behavior torwards himself has gotten hard to

watch. He is regressing as far as as im concerned. Its been awhile

since he's been this aggressive and abusive. I am wondering if there is

anything in teh meds thta is affecting him or his diet. I have no idea.

I am worried for his safety and Im afraid that his congestion will turn

into pnemonia. Im at a loss, dont know what to do. any advice would be

greatly appreciated. The school keeps sending him home, and they just

called because they were seeing self abusive behavior as well, and they

too were wondering what was going on. Help. LEilani

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Becky, glad you mentioned this on the Claritin as this is what I

forgot to mention which also helped . I actually gave Zrytec

(make sure without the Casein) which helped here too.

Irma

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LEilani, I agree with Laurie that antibiotics make more self

injurious. His DAN doc says one of the reason is the shots like

penacillian bypass the gut unlike pills and oral antibiotics. She

recommened shots for a strep infection that has had. The strep

infection before the shots started causing OCD behaviors. doc

said the pills and oral antibiotics cause yeast build up therefore

causing gut issues and pain along with bowl problems like

constipation. Injections bypass the gut.Get Noah on a good probiotic

to help gut issues. Cyndi B

>

>

> Hi, Mic has a reaction to antibiotics I call the crazies hes never

himself when hes taking them, we ask our Ped if instead of oral pills

or liquids he can sometimes give him a shot.Works alot better, Mic

also had tonsils adnoids and eartubes a couple yrs ago and it stopped

the runny noses ear infection and now we are down 2 a couple times a

yr and no ear infections.Mic was sick constantly before he had that

done.Just some thoughts your not alone. Laurie

>

> To: @...: leilani.aguirre@...: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:55:03

+0000Subject: Don't know what to do

>

>

>

> Well guys, Im having issues with my little guy again, and Im at my

wits end. If you remember, Noah was in the hospital with staph in

Nov. Since hes been out, he had been doing fine, but most recently he

has had a really bad runny nose and congestion. He was given an

antibiotic and cough meds, which he took well, but he got worse. So

he was given another cough med and a stronger antibiotic. Problem is,

the stronger the med, the worse the taste, so we've been having

problems getting him to take them. On top of that, he behavior

torwards himself has gotten hard to watch. He is regressing as far as

as im concerned. Its been awhile since he's been this aggressive and

abusive. I am wondering if there is anything in teh meds thta is

affecting him or his diet. I have no idea. I am worried for his

safety and Im afraid that his congestion will turn into pnemonia. Im

at a loss, dont know what to do. any advice would be greatly

appreciated. The school keeps sending him home, and they just called

because they were seeing self abusive behavior as well, and they too

were wondering what was going on. Help. LEilani

>

>

>

>

>

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Thank you so much to everyone who responded.  this does make sense, because I

have realized Noah hasn't had his bm's as usual.  It is just so hard because we

are not seeing a DAN doctor, there are none in our area, and as far as I know,

medicaid wouldnt cover it anyway.  I would love to be able to do this for him,

but as of right now, we cannot.  Im in the corpus christi area, Ms. Irma, I

know we have had this discussion before, but are there DAN doctors in your

area?  If i remember correctly, youre located in the san antonio area.  I

would not mind the drive if it meant helping my son.  Leilani

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Subject: Re: Don't know what to do

LEilani, I agree with Laurie that antibiotics make more self

injurious. His DAN doc says one of the reason is the shots like

penacillian bypass the gut unlike pills and oral antibiotics. She

recommened shots for a strep infection that has had. The strep

infection before the shots started causing OCD behaviors. doc

said the pills and oral antibiotics cause yeast build up therefore

causing gut issues and pain along with bowl problems like

constipation. Injections bypass the gut.Get Noah on a good probiotic

to help gut issues. Cyndi B

>

>

> Hi, Mic has a reaction to antibiotics I call the crazies hes never

himself when hes taking them, we ask our Ped if instead of oral pills

or liquids he can sometimes give him a shot.Works alot better, Mic

also had tonsils adnoids and eartubes a couple yrs ago and it stopped

the runny noses ear infection and now we are down 2 a couple times a

yr and no ear infections.Mic was sick constantly before he had that

done.Just some thoughts your not alone. Laurie

>

> To: @.. .: leilani.aguirre@ ...: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:55:03

+0000Subject: Don't know what to do

>

>

>

> Well guys, Im having issues with my little guy again, and Im at my

wits end. If you remember, Noah was in the hospital with staph in

Nov. Since hes been out, he had been doing fine, but most recently he

has had a really bad runny nose and congestion. He was given an

antibiotic and cough meds, which he took well, but he got worse. So

he was given another cough med and a stronger antibiotic. Problem is,

the stronger the med, the worse the taste, so we've been having

problems getting him to take them. On top of that, he behavior

torwards himself has gotten hard to watch. He is regressing as far as

as im concerned. Its been awhile since he's been this aggressive and

abusive. I am wondering if there is anything in teh meds thta is

affecting him or his diet. I have no idea. I am worried for his

safety and Im afraid that his congestion will turn into pnemonia. Im

at a loss, dont know what to do. any advice would be greatly

appreciated. The school keeps sending him home, and they just called

because they were seeing self abusive behavior as well, and they too

were wondering what was going on. Help. LEilani

>

>

>

>

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Leilani. I would not worry about finding a DAN doc. Maybe you could

try to find one that does biomedical/holistic approach to healing. Go

to your local GNC and ask if they have a list of Pediatrician that do

biomedical. Do you have a Whole Foods Market or a Rainbow Blossom or

somewhere that sells food that does not contain antibiotics? These

places can be helpful in finding a doc if the pediatrician is not

listening to your wants. If course you do not have to have a Doc to

try probiotics to counter act the antibiotics. Any place that sells

supplements should be able to help with dosing when you tell them age

and weight of the child. All of this biomedical DAN approach does not

work for everyone it just so happen to work for . You are right

medicaid does not pay for biomedical but there are grants you can

apply for. In Ky if your insurance is in KY you can get an extra $500

a month to pay for services. We do not get this because my husbands

insurance is not based in KY. I wounder if anyone has ever challenged

this if the insurance is in a state that also provides $500 for

autism. If you take over handling the medicaid waiver you can pay the

money where you see fit and not the government. So I you need money

to pay for ABA services you should get it. Cyndi B

>

>

> Thank you so much to everyone who responded.  this does make

sense, because I have realized Noah hasn't had his bm's as usual. 

It is just so hard because we are not seeing a DAN doctor, there are

none in our area, and as far as I know, medicaid wouldnt cover it

anyway.  I would love to be able to do this for him, but as of right

now, we cannot.  Im in the corpus christi area, Ms. Irma, I know we

have had this discussion before, but are there DAN doctors in your

area?  If i remember correctly, youre located in the san antonio

area.  I would not mind the drive if it meant helping my son. 

Leilani

>

>

>

>

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> To:

> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 12:29:00 AM

> Subject: Re: Don't know what to do

>

>

> LEilani, I agree with Laurie that antibiotics make more self

> injurious. His DAN doc says one of the reason is the shots like

> penacillian bypass the gut unlike pills and oral antibiotics. She

> recommened shots for a strep infection that has had. The strep

> infection before the shots started causing OCD behaviors. doc

> said the pills and oral antibiotics cause yeast build up therefore

> causing gut issues and pain along with bowl problems like

> constipation. Injections bypass the gut.Get Noah on a good

probiotic

> to help gut issues. Cyndi B

> >

> >

> > Hi, Mic has a reaction to antibiotics I call the crazies hes

never

> himself when hes taking them, we ask our Ped if instead of oral

pills

> or liquids he can sometimes give him a shot.Works alot better, Mic

> also had tonsils adnoids and eartubes a couple yrs ago and it

stopped

> the runny noses ear infection and now we are down 2 a couple times

a

> yr and no ear infections.Mic was sick constantly before he had that

> done.Just some thoughts your not alone. Laurie

> >

> > To: @ .: leilani.aguirre@ ...: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:55:03

> +0000Subject: Don't know what to do

> >

> >

> >

> > Well guys, Im having issues with my little guy again, and Im at

my

> wits end. If you remember, Noah was in the hospital with staph in

> Nov. Since hes been out, he had been doing fine, but most recently

he

> has had a really bad runny nose and congestion. He was given an

> antibiotic and cough meds, which he took well, but he got worse. So

> he was given another cough med and a stronger antibiotic. Problem

is,

> the stronger the med, the worse the taste, so we've been having

> problems getting him to take them. On top of that, he behavior

> torwards himself has gotten hard to watch. He is regressing as far

as

> as im concerned. Its been awhile since he's been this aggressive

and

> abusive. I am wondering if there is anything in teh meds thta is

> affecting him or his diet. I have no idea. I am worried for his

> safety and Im afraid that his congestion will turn into pnemonia.

Im

> at a loss, dont know what to do. any advice would be greatly

> appreciated. The school keeps sending him home, and they just

called

> because they were seeing self abusive behavior as well, and they

too

> were wondering what was going on. Help. LEilani

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Leilani, I was actually going to mention on what Cyndi has mentioned

on not needing a DAN! physician.

Sometimes some can also do more harm than good as I have encountered

in the past.

There is one who use to be called a DAN! physician here in SA but it

is prefer nowadays as she applies the biomedical approach who

understands this very much as she too suffer from various health

issues and have benefit from such alternative treatments.

Let me know if interested on her contact information. Do not know if

she accepts health insurance but assuming does not accept Medicaid.

If you have Medicaid for your son, maybe trials with the physicians

who specialize on ruling out where needed that accept Medicaid, would

definitely need a referral/script though, from a primary physician.

Such as a GI doctor, testing here are the colonscopy & endoscopy.

Here one can rule out if any detection triggering gut issues.

This is actually one of the route's I took where I was able to get

some of the testing done and paid through Medicaid and my private

health insurance.

I sure could not afford money up front for such an excellent place as

the Thoughtful House out in Austin as I would I liked, so I seek other

avenues.

I was able to work around the doc's where I was NOT stepping over

their toes on what they specialize with and kinda of gave them the

power of suggesting whatever perked their ears and even got some

referrals when in doubt which was actually nice.

Something like reverse psychology which worked for me.

Even though you know your son suffers from constipation, you are still

ruling out like Celiac, Irritable Bowl Syndrome, biopsy, etc.

Normally the GI doc would say give him Miralax and plenty of fiber

when all returns normal but it is really some comfort to rule out any

serious underlying GI issues.

This happen to , all his testing return normal but doc told me

that he suffers from food intolerance.

So of course told me apply the dietary intervention and dietary

supplements.

Once the ENT & dentist rules out also anything, this too is a safe

zone knowing that there are no underlying issues here too.

Then with our luck there is the Hematologist who actually ran whatever

test such like in 's case would run the test needed such as IgG,

Specimen Data to rule out if any bloodwork on the blood cell count.

Here was the beginning on finding our one of the main culprits of

being allergic to Dairy.

Yes, I am out here in SA.

There are also some Chiropractor who specialize with what to look for

but most do not accept Medicaid or insurance.

Irma

>

> Thank you so much to everyone who responded.  this does make sense,

because I have realized Noah hasn't had his bm's as usual.  It is just

so hard because we are not seeing a DAN doctor, there are none in our

area, and as far as I know, medicaid wouldnt cover it anyway.  I would

love to be able to do this for him, but as of right now, we cannot. 

Im in the corpus christi area, Ms. Irma, I know we have had this

discussion before, but are there DAN doctors in your area?  If i

remember correctly, youre located in the san antonio area.  I would

not mind the drive if it meant helping my son.  Leilani

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Ms Irma, would I need a referral to have the candida yeast overgrowth test to be

done, or is this something his pediatrician can do?  If I was to ask to be

referred to a GI, what test would I be asking for? Leilani

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To:

Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 7:26:04 PM

Subject: Re: Don't know what to do

Leilani, I was actually going to mention on what Cyndi has mentioned

on not needing a DAN! physician.

Sometimes some can also do more harm than good as I have encountered

in the past.

There is one who use to be called a DAN! physician here in SA but it

is prefer nowadays as she applies the biomedical approach who

understands this very much as she too suffer from various health

issues and have benefit from such alternative treatments.

Let me know if interested on her contact information. Do not know if

she accepts health insurance but assuming does not accept Medicaid.

If you have Medicaid for your son, maybe trials with the physicians

who specialize on ruling out where needed that accept Medicaid, would

definitely need a referral/script though, from a primary physician.

Such as a GI doctor, testing here are the colonscopy & endoscopy.

Here one can rule out if any detection triggering gut issues.

This is actually one of the route's I took where I was able to get

some of the testing done and paid through Medicaid and my private

health insurance.

I sure could not afford money up front for such an excellent place as

the Thoughtful House out in Austin as I would I liked, so I seek other

avenues.

I was able to work around the doc's where I was NOT stepping over

their toes on what they specialize with and kinda of gave them the

power of suggesting whatever perked their ears and even got some

referrals when in doubt which was actually nice..

Something like reverse psychology which worked for me.

Even though you know your son suffers from constipation, you are still

ruling out like Celiac, Irritable Bowl Syndrome, biopsy, etc.

Normally the GI doc would say give him Miralax and plenty of fiber

when all returns normal but it is really some comfort to rule out any

serious underlying GI issues.

This happen to , all his testing return normal but doc told me

that he suffers from food intolerance.

So of course told me apply the dietary intervention and dietary

supplements.

Once the ENT & dentist rules out also anything, this too is a safe

zone knowing that there are no underlying issues here too.

Then with our luck there is the Hematologist who actually ran whatever

test such like in 's case would run the test needed such as IgG,

Specimen Data to rule out if any bloodwork on the blood cell count.

Here was the beginning on finding our one of the main culprits of

being allergic to Dairy.

Yes, I am out here in SA.

There are also some Chiropractor who specialize with what to look for

but most do not accept Medicaid or insurance.

Irma

>

> Thank you so much to everyone who responded.  this does make sense,

because I have realized Noah hasn't had his bm's as usual.  It is just

so hard because we are not seeing a DAN doctor, there are none in our

area, and as far as I know, medicaid wouldnt cover it anyway.  I would

love to be able to do this for him, but as of right now, we cannot. 

Im in the corpus christi area, Ms. Irma, I know we have had this

discussion before, but are there DAN doctors in your area?  If i

remember correctly, youre located in the san antonio area.  I would

not mind the drive if it meant helping my son.  Leilani

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> Ms Irma, would I need a referral to have the candida yeast

overgrowth test to be done, or is this something his pediatrician can

do?� If I was to ask to be referred to a GI, what test would I be

asking for? Leilani

Leilani,

Do you know anyone from the Coastal Bend support group?

To see if anyone has their kids under the biomedical intervention?

Normally if a pediatrician runs a test who are knowledgeable in this

department will do this type of testing, no referral is needed but if

this needs to be done elsewhere then one is required usually when one

is under the medicaid.

Should you seek the route of a GI doctor, it would be nice to have a

Endoscopy and a colonscopy test, might as well get it all at once. He

would have to be sedated though, through whatever the anesthesia

physician uses and probably done at a hospital, most of the time.

If you are not aware of one known out in Corpus, there are several out

here in SA who accepts Medicaid and do not forget Medicaid could help

pay for traveling expenses if no luck out there in Corpus.

I know 's GI doc accepts Medicaid but do not know if they work

with the younger kiddos, mostly young adults/adults.

On a Resource list I have posted the site, there are some specialists

which many who work or have individuals who have autism or related

disorder.

Testing for candida can be useful, however, sometimes the information

is unreliable and the only way to really " test " for yeast is to try a

yeast diet and protocol (anti-yeast supplements, probiotics, cultured

foods, or medications)and see if the child responds positively.

Medicaid helps pay for the Nystatin which is one of the prescribed

medication, when taking this it is best to give first an activated

charcoal (internal cleansing, I take the capsule apart and mixe it

with pear sauce for ), then the Nystatin. This though was

instructed by the doctor he is seen by.

Would you like to contact and gather information from a doctor out

here in SA?

Look under biomedical intervention

Dr.Carment O'tero, which is here on the resource guide.

http://autismsocietysa.org/doc/June_2008_ASGSA_Resource_Guide.pdf

Irma

INTERVIEW WITH DR. WILLIAM SHAW ABOUT MICROBIAL METABOLITES IN AUTISM

AND OTHER DEVELOPMENTAL DISORDERS

http://www.parentsofallergicchildren.org/dr1.htm

Testing for Yeast Overgrowth

http://www.nutritioninstitute.com/yeastovergrowth.html

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Thanks Ms. Irma, I hope im not being a nusiance by asking so many questions,

this is all so  new and overwhelming.  I dont know anybody in the coastal bend

support group, but this is something i may need to look into.  As far as the

endoscopy and colonoscopy, what would the GI be looking for? What would these

tests be for?

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Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 8:34:17 PM

Subject: Re: Don't know what to do

>

> Ms Irma, would I need a referral to have the candida yeast

overgrowth test to be done, or is this something his pediatrician can

do?� If I was to ask to be referred to a GI, what test would I be

asking for? Leilani

Leilani,

Do you know anyone from the Coastal Bend support group?

To see if anyone has their kids under the biomedical intervention?

Normally if a pediatrician runs a test who are knowledgeable in this

department will do this type of testing, no referral is needed but if

this needs to be done elsewhere then one is required usually when one

is under the medicaid.

Should you seek the route of a GI doctor, it would be nice to have a

Endoscopy and a colonscopy test, might as well get it all at once. He

would have to be sedated though, through whatever the anesthesia

physician uses and probably done at a hospital, most of the time.

If you are not aware of one known out in Corpus, there are several out

here in SA who accepts Medicaid and do not forget Medicaid could help

pay for traveling expenses if no luck out there in Corpus.

I know 's GI doc accepts Medicaid but do not know if they work

with the younger kiddos, mostly young adults/adults.

On a Resource list I have posted the site, there are some specialists

which many who work or have individuals who have autism or related

disorder.

Testing for candida can be useful, however, sometimes the information

is unreliable and the only way to really " test " for yeast is to try a

yeast diet and protocol (anti-yeast supplements, probiotics, cultured

foods, or medications) and see if the child responds positively.

Medicaid helps pay for the Nystatin which is one of the prescribed

medication, when taking this it is best to give first an activated

charcoal (internal cleansing, I take the capsule apart and mixe it

with pear sauce for ), then the Nystatin. This though was

instructed by the doctor he is seen by.

Would you like to contact and gather information from a doctor out

here in SA?

Look under biomedical intervention

Dr.Carment O'tero, which is here on the resource guide.

http://autismsociet ysa.org/doc/ June_2008_ ASGSA_Resource_ Guide.pdf

Irma

INTERVIEW WITH DR. WILLIAM SHAW ABOUT MICROBIAL METABOLITES IN AUTISM

AND OTHER DEVELOPMENTAL DISORDERS

http://www.parentso fallergicchildre n.org/dr1. htm

Testing for Yeast Overgrowth

http://www.nutritio ninstitute. com/yeastovergro wth.html

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> Thanks Ms. Irma, I hope im not being a nusiance by asking so many

questions, this is all so� new and overwhelming.��I dont know anybody

in the coastal bend support group, but this is something i may need to

look into.� As far as the endoscopy and colonoscopy, what would the GI

be looking for? What would these tests be for?

Leilani,

Oh no, never. I hear you and can relate as well. Please do not

hesitate as I still do the same.

The endoscopy will tell you whether your son has upper gi problems

such as esophagitis or acid reflux.

the colonoscopy will tell you if he has polyps(sp?) or other problems

in his colon.

Irma,20,DS/ASD

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leilani and noah, sorry i dont remember noah's age. does he take pills? I thing

if he is taking liquid meds I would insist on the the pill as it wont have as

much of a taste, (some are a tiny bit bitter when chewed or crushed) If he is

unable to swallow pills i would just crush it with a bite of something very

sugary, or sweet. like jelly or even sugar and a tad of water. some are just

fine with abpplesauce or pudding but the sugary substance  hides the bitter much

better. Our medication times have not even been one ioda of trouble since we

tried tablets or capsules, nathan doesnt chew much anyways and he just picks it

up and swallows it down. i have to remind him too take a drink, lol, but he is

fine with that as he is always thirsty anyways. Another huge thing that helped

with nathan nose and he loves it is a suction machine. got hte script from our

doc and call our medical supply co and wahlaa, our sinus colds and infection

times are cut waaaayyyy

down. shawna

 

 http://sewshawna.blogspot.com

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Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 8:55:03 AM

Subject: Don't know what to do

Well guys,

Im having issues with my little guy again, and Im at my wits end. If

you remember, Noah was in the hospital with staph in Nov. Since hes

been out, he had been doing fine, but most recently he has had a really

bad runny nose and congestion. He was given an antibiotic and cough

meds, which he took well, but he got worse. So he was given another

cough med and a stronger antibiotic. Problem is, the stronger the med,

the worse the taste, so we've been having problems getting him to take

them. On top of that, he behavior torwards himself has gotten hard to

watch. He is regressing as far as as im concerned. Its been awhile

since he's been this aggressive and abusive. I am wondering if there is

anything in teh meds thta is affecting him or his diet. I have no idea.

I am worried for his safety and Im afraid that his congestion will turn

into pnemonia. Im at a loss, dont know what to do. any advice would be

greatly appreciated. The school keeps sending him home, and they just

called because they were seeing self abusive behavior as well, and they

too were wondering what was going on. Help. LEilani

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A suction machine?  I didnt' know we could get those.  They used one of those in

the hospital once and you dont know how many times I wish I had one.  Noah is

seven, and docs just started prescribing some pills.  I tried just letting him

take it but he just throws it, so I crush it.  Luckily, both pills we have tried

were still flavored because they were chewables, been doing pretty good hiding

it in koolaid, but will have to find a new way to hide it because i didnt

realize that the dye in koolaid might not be so great, plus im not too sure if

it contains high fructose corn syrup.  I am so new to this diet, and just when i

thought i had it, new info becomes available.  thanks for the advice, will

definantly look into suction machine.  Leilani

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Sent: Sunday, February 1, 2009 5:14:11 PM

Subject: Re: Don't know what to do

leilani and noah, sorry i dont remember noah's age. does he take pills? I thing

if he is taking liquid meds I would insist on the the pill as it wont have as

much of a taste, (some are a tiny bit bitter when chewed or crushed) If he is

unable to swallow pills i would just crush it with a bite of something very

sugary, or sweet. like jelly or even sugar and a tad of water. some are just

fine with abpplesauce or pudding but the sugary substance  hides the bitter much

better. Our medication times have not even been one ioda of trouble since we

tried tablets or capsules, nathan doesnt chew much anyways and he just picks it

up and swallows it down. i have to remind him too take a drink, lol, but he is

fine with that as he is always thirsty anyways. Another huge thing that helped

with nathan nose and he loves it is a suction machine. got hte script from our

doc and call our medical supply co and wahlaa, our sinus colds and infection

times are cut waaaayyyy

down. shawna

 

 http://sewshawna. blogspot. com

____________ _________ _________ __

From: leilani.aguirre <leilani.aguirre@ yahoo.com>

To: @yahoogrou ps.com

Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 8:55:03 AM

Subject: Don't know what to do

Well guys,

Im having issues with my little guy again, and Im at my wits end. If

you remember, Noah was in the hospital with staph in Nov. Since hes

been out, he had been doing fine, but most recently he has had a really

bad runny nose and congestion. He was given an antibiotic and cough

meds, which he took well, but he got worse. So he was given another

cough med and a stronger antibiotic. Problem is, the stronger the med,

the worse the taste, so we've been having problems getting him to take

them. On top of that, he behavior torwards himself has gotten hard to

watch. He is regressing as far as as im concerned. Its been awhile

since he's been this aggressive and abusive. I am wondering if there is

anything in teh meds thta is affecting him or his diet. I have no idea.

I am worried for his safety and Im afraid that his congestion will turn

into pnemonia. Im at a loss, dont know what to do. any advice would be

greatly appreciated. The school keeps sending him home, and they just

called because they were seeing self abusive behavior as well, and they

too were wondering what was going on. Help. LEilani

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Thanks for all the help, really appreciate it. Leilani

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Sent: Sunday, February 1, 2009 3:03:18 PM

Subject: Re: Don't know what to do

>

> Thanks Ms. Irma, I hope im not being a nusiance by asking so many

questions, this is all so� new and overwhelming.��I dont know anybody

in the coastal bend support group, but this is something i may need to

look into.� As far as the endoscopy and colonoscopy, what would the GI

be looking for? What would these tests be for?

Leilani,

Oh no, never. I hear you and can relate as well. Please do not

hesitate as I still do the same.

The endoscopy will tell you whether your son has upper gi problems

such as esophagitis or acid reflux.

the colonoscopy will tell you if he has polyps(sp?) or other problems

in his colon..

Irma,20, DS/ASD

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oh yes, the idea came to me when nathan was sooo sick and i use to be a home

health nurse, i had several severe and profound clients who had tracheostomies,

so ofcourse had suction machines. I asked the doc about it as nathan all ready

been put under a few times to suction and flush his sinuses (they were begining

to think he had cystic fibrosis) he had soo much pus and mucous and he didnt

blow his nose, it would take several tries just to get him to do a tiny blow.

His snius cavities couldnt heal. The docs thought it could be worth a try and

worked out very well all around. We use a " DevilBiss " suction machine, its comes

with its own carry case, is rechargeable battery, also has a car charger if

needed when travel long distances, but battery does last a long time. I wont use

techinal terms as dont want to confuse you, just ask for the usual suction

tubing that goes with the canister and request a " BBG Nasal Aspirator " product

code 93032-S   

I can give you more info on this if needed. It is what the hospitals use

occasionally on infants, as you dont need a suction catheter or yancher, they

dont go to nose anyways, lol, and it fits perfectly right to your suction

tubing. PLEASE be sure to have your company or a nurse show you how to use it. 

Its not hard in the least. a

 

 

 http://sewshawna.blogspot.com

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To:

Sent: Monday, February 2, 2009 8:29:38 AM

Subject: Re: Don't know what to do

A suction machine?  I didnt' know we could get those.  They used one of those in

the hospital once and you dont know how many times I wish I had one.  Noah is

seven, and docs just started prescribing some pills.  I tried just letting him

take it but he just throws it, so I crush it.  Luckily, both pills we have tried

were still flavored because they were chewables, been doing pretty good hiding

it in koolaid, but will have to find a new way to hide it because i didnt

realize that the dye in koolaid might not be so great, plus im not too sure if

it contains high fructose corn syrup.  I am so new to this diet, and just when i

thought i had it, new info becomes available.  thanks for the advice, will

definantly look into suction machine.  Leilani

____________ _________ _________ __

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To: @yahoogrou ps.com

Sent: Sunday, February 1, 2009 5:14:11 PM

Subject: Re: Don't know what to do

leilani and noah, sorry i dont remember noah's age. does he take pills? I thing

if he is taking liquid meds I would insist on the the pill as it wont have as

much of a taste, (some are a tiny bit bitter when chewed or crushed) If he is

unable to swallow pills i would just crush it with a bite of something very

sugary, or sweet. like jelly or even sugar and a tad of water. some are just

fine with abpplesauce or pudding but the sugary substance  hides the bitter much

better. Our medication times have not even been one ioda of trouble since we

tried tablets or capsules, nathan doesnt chew much anyways and he just picks it

up and swallows it down. i have to remind him too take a drink, lol, but he is

fine with that as he is always thirsty anyways. Another huge thing that helped

with nathan nose and he loves it is a suction machine. got hte script from our

doc and call our medical supply co and wahlaa, our sinus colds and infection

times are cut waaaayyyy

down. shawna

 

 http://sewshawna. blogspot. com

____________ _________ _________ __

From: leilani.aguirre <leilani.aguirre@ yahoo.com>

To: @yahoogrou ps.com

Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 8:55:03 AM

Subject: Don't know what to do

Well guys,

Im having issues with my little guy again, and Im at my wits end. If

you remember, Noah was in the hospital with staph in Nov. Since hes

been out, he had been doing fine, but most recently he has had a really

bad runny nose and congestion. He was given an antibiotic and cough

meds, which he took well, but he got worse. So he was given another

cough med and a stronger antibiotic. Problem is, the stronger the med,

the worse the taste, so we've been having problems getting him to take

them. On top of that, he behavior torwards himself has gotten hard to

watch. He is regressing as far as as im concerned. Its been awhile

since he's been this aggressive and abusive. I am wondering if there is

anything in teh meds thta is affecting him or his diet. I have no idea.

I am worried for his safety and Im afraid that his congestion will turn

into pnemonia. Im at a loss, dont know what to do. any advice would be

greatly appreciated. The school keeps sending him home, and they just

called because they were seeing self abusive behavior as well, and they

too were wondering what was going on. Help. LEilani

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Been there as well. Have you used pre-teaching as a tool before ever going

to a store? In this, you sit down with a, tell her where you are

going and YOUR expectations. Keep it simple.

a, we are going to the dollar store. You need to walk with me and

help push the shopping cart. When we are finished at the dollar store, we

will get you a treat .... What ever works for her that is reasonable. Mine

is mostly a jr frosty. OR maybe a balloon. But not a toy.

Our rule is the treat has to be $1 or less - it is a treat not a reward.

>

>

> Yesterday, a acted out sooo bad at the dollar general store, I had

> to let my mom pay for my goods and take a out to the car. She wanted

> a baby doll and a DVD, well I couldn't afford it so I told her no. Well she

> had a fit. She headbutted the floor, which was ceramic s tile, she

> stop,dropped, and flopped, she grabbed her throat, clawed herself and me,

> and screamed uncontrollable. She pure hurt me. I don't know what to do

> anymore. I need some advise. She is now 12 and weighs close to 70 lbs, I

> just cannot pick her up or hold her down anymore. What do you all do(if you

> ever have these moments).

>

> Stella

>

>

>

--

Sara -To Life!

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Stella,

Get a good stroller. I know that involves money but I find Jake is so much

easier to control when he is in a stroller or some kind of cart. It keeps his

grabbing to a minimum and I can have him strapped in. Since I have control of

the stroller, he does not get to see or touch as much stuff and we have less

meltdowns. We also put Jake in one cart and the purchases in another when we

have extra hands. If not, Jake throws everything out of the shopping cart.

Jake does terrible at Walmart. I think that is because of the lights, the

noise, and the the many many people who are around.

Holly

don't know what to do

Yesterday, a acted out sooo bad at the dollar general store, I had to

let my mom pay for my goods and take a out to the car. She wanted a baby

doll and a DVD, well I couldn't afford it so I told her no. Well she had a fit.

She headbutted the floor, which was ceramic s tile, she stop,dropped, and

flopped, she grabbed her throat, clawed herself and me, and screamed

uncontrollable. She pure hurt me. I don't know what to do anymore. I need some

advise. She is now 12 and weighs close to 70 lbs, I just cannot pick her up or

hold her down anymore. What do you all do(if you ever have these moments).

Stella

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No I haven't, but she seems to think that at every store she should get a toy,

or movie. I will attempt to do this, but I'm actually scared to take her back to

the store by myself. However, I am a single parent so I will have to do it. I'll

try your advise next time and see how it goes. I just know I can't go through

that again.

Stella

>

> >

> >

> > Yesterday, a acted out sooo bad at the dollar general store, I had

> > to let my mom pay for my goods and take a out to the car. She wanted

> > a baby doll and a DVD, well I couldn't afford it so I told her no. Well she

> > had a fit. She headbutted the floor, which was ceramic s tile, she

> > stop,dropped, and flopped, she grabbed her throat, clawed herself and me,

> > and screamed uncontrollable. She pure hurt me. I don't know what to do

> > anymore. I need some advise. She is now 12 and weighs close to 70 lbs, I

> > just cannot pick her up or hold her down anymore. What do you all do(if you

> > ever have these moments).

> >

> > Stella

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

> --

> Sara -To Life!

>

>

>

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We too are having such a difficult time. Our son, , is 12 and weighs about

85 lbs. He can overpower me and out run me. Three weeks ago I went down 4

concrete steps trying to contain him during a melt down. (He was fine- I had a

six inch scrape down one shin.) Some of his episodes of acting out, throwing,

crying or giggling last up to 3 hours. His has been on about " every " medication.

I really do not know what to do.

Debbie

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I'm right there with you Debbie. I had to go to the Doctor about my wrist. He

said that I had sprain my wrist over and over trying to pull on a. I have

to wear a wrist band and apply pressure, along with taking inflammation meds. I

just hope this is a phase, and that she will outgrow it. I love her to death,

but I fear that she is slowly tearing my body down.

Stella Harrelson,

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Stella, There is a technique for getting these kids to stand up and it works for

. Have you ever seen the belts that they use around the waist of someone in

the hospital so they do not fall? I put this therapy belt or gait belt on ,

next position his knees bent and without shoes on light step on his toes. Next I

count 1,2,3, it is time to stand up and he pulls himself up. He gets a reward

for following instructions. I hope this helps you. Cyndi B

> I'm right there with you Debbie. I had to go to the Doctor about my wrist. He

said that I had sprain my wrist over and over trying to pull on a. I have

to wear a wrist band and apply pressure, along with taking inflammation meds. I

just hope this is a phase, and that she will outgrow it. I love her to death,

but I fear that she is slowly tearing my body down.

>

> Stella Harrelson,

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