melatonin

April 24, 2008

>

> Have any of you found that melatonin actually made your kids

irritable the

> next day?? Just curious also anyone here had their child on

zoloft ever??

> We are on depakene, zoloft and trazedone to help with sleep (which

it does

> NOT). So we are going to stop that. I cant tell that zoloft is

making any

> difference at all. He is sick with allergies and sinus infection

and has

> been VERY defiant this week both at home and school.

>

> Thanks

> mary

>

,

I have taken melatonin years ago and I had a druggy after effect

from it.

Studies have shown that it can cause depression in some people. I

just avoid it.

It may work for some, but I tend to get depressed at times and avoid

anything that may make it worse.

is going to start on a low dose of lexapro, we have tried

abilify, which caused tremors, to scary. ahh...

Good luck!

Sarno

April 24, 2008

For my kids yes!!! They both are crabby pants. The oldest was falling into a

depression from it. We stopped it and she on remron and so far seems to help a

bit.

Dayton takes Zoloft and we just bumped to 50mg and amazing the difference in 3-4

weeks time... he not nearly as anxious and easier to transition.

We just started abilify and stopped the depokote about a month ago.. and he

saying 'words' now. It is a amazing drug too!

, mom to ,14yr DS and ADHD Dayton 9yr,DS and Autism and

5yr DS and ???

Melatonin

Have any of you found that melatonin actually made your kids irritable the

next day?? Just curious also anyone here had their child on zoloft ever??

We are on depakene, zoloft and trazedone to help with sleep (which it does

NOT). So we are going to stop that. I cant tell that zoloft is making any

difference at all. He is sick with allergies and sinus infection and has

been VERY defiant this week both at home and school.

Thanks

mary

April 24, 2008

why did you stop depakne or depokote?? Just curious. Do you do the

Zoloft in the am?? My dad is on remron he has Parkinson's.

I swear I think we could all be physiicans after raising these kids

mary

>

> For my kids yes!!! They both are crabby pants. The oldest was falling into a

> depression from it. We stopped it and she on remron and so far seems to help a

> bit.

> Dayton takes Zoloft and we just bumped to 50mg and amazing the difference in

> 3-4 weeks time... he not nearly as anxious and easier to transition.

> We just started abilify and stopped the depokote about a month ago.. and he

> saying 'words' now. It is a amazing drug too!

>

> , mom to ,14yr DS and ADHD Dayton 9yr,DS and Autism and

> 5yr DS and ???

>

> Melatonin

>

> Have any of you found that melatonin actually made your kids irritable the

> next day?? Just curious also anyone here had their child on zoloft ever??

> We are on depakene, zoloft and trazedone to help with sleep (which it does

> NOT). So we are going to stop that. I cant tell that zoloft is making any

> difference at all. He is sick with allergies and sinus infection and has

> been VERY defiant this week both at home and school.

>

> Thanks

> mary

>

April 24, 2008

We stopped the depokote for Dayton because I did not want to draw blood every

3month to check liver function. It takes nearly 6-8 people to hold him down and

not worth it to us. Abilify works the same as depokote in some way and actually

can see it works better for the mood swings we go through.The tantrum before

could last hr or two now we are at 5 mins top 30mins. depending what set him

off.

We do the zoloft at night because makes him 'groggy'. He goes to bed normally at

7- 7:30 and sleeps 12 hrs. We give him 1mg of Risperdal at night too.. helps

with agression all the next day. Risperdal moves slowly through his system. We

do .5 mg of Abilify in the morning and around 4PM....This will work about 9-12

months... then something will be upped or changed.

This help any?

Melatonin

>

> Have any of you found that melatonin actually made your kids irritable the

> next day?? Just curious also anyone here had their child on zoloft ever??

> We are on depakene, zoloft and trazedone to help with sleep (which it does

> NOT). So we are going to stop that. I cant tell that zoloft is making any

> difference at all. He is sick with allergies and sinus infection and has

> been VERY defiant this week both at home and school.

>

> Thanks

> mary

>

April 24, 2008

,

I will keep this email filed for later as Logan is on Risperdal and

Trazadone at night and .25 of Risperdal during the day. He also takes

melatonin at night. It seems to help him and we have not seen the

depression. What is the Abilify for?

_____

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf

Of cmedrano@...

Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 6:50 PM

To:

Subject: Re: Melatonin

We stopped the depokote for Dayton because I did not want to draw blood

every 3month to check liver function. It takes nearly 6-8 people to hold him

down and not worth it to us. Abilify works the same as depokote in some way

and actually can see it works better for the mood swings we go through.The

tantrum before could last hr or two now we are at 5 mins top 30mins.

depending what set him off.

We do the zoloft at night because makes him 'groggy'. He goes to bed

normally at 7- 7:30 and sleeps 12 hrs. We give him 1mg of Risperdal at night

too.. helps with agression all the next day. Risperdal moves slowly through

his system. We do .5 mg of Abilify in the morning and around 4PM....This

will work about 9-12 months... then something will be upped or changed.

This help any?

Melatonin

>

> Have any of you found that melatonin actually made your kids irritable the

> next day?? Just curious also anyone here had their child on zoloft ever??

> We are on depakene, zoloft and trazedone to help with sleep (which it does

> NOT). So we are going to stop that. I cant tell that zoloft is making any

> difference at all. He is sick with allergies and sinus infection and has

> been VERY defiant this week both at home and school.

>

> Thanks

> mary

>

April 24, 2008

Thanks . It is so hard since is non verbal. I have no idea

what sets him off sometimes and when he is sick or not feeling good it is

even harder. Then how do I know if it a side effect of the meds. I am

always questioning myself.

I too think NDSS needs to do more to acknowledge our DD children. Our

worried and conerns are sometimes different than just the DS family.

mary

>

> We stopped the depokote for Dayton because I did not want to draw blood every

> 3month to check liver function. It takes nearly 6-8 people to hold him down

> and not worth it to us. Abilify works the same as depokote in some way and

> actually can see it works better for the mood swings we go through.The tantrum

> before could last hr or two now we are at 5 mins top 30mins. depending what

> set him off.

> We do the zoloft at night because makes him 'groggy'. He goes to bed normally

> at 7- 7:30 and sleeps 12 hrs. We give him 1mg of Risperdal at night too..

> helps with agression all the next day. Risperdal moves slowly through his

> system. We do .5 mg of Abilify in the morning and around 4PM....This will work

> about 9-12 months... then something will be upped or changed.

>

> This help any?

>

> Melatonin

>> >

>> > Have any of you found that melatonin actually made your kids irritable the

>> > next day?? Just curious also anyone here had their child on zoloft ever??

>> > We are on depakene, zoloft and trazedone to help with sleep (which it does

>> > NOT). So we are going to stop that. I cant tell that zoloft is making any

>> > difference at all. He is sick with allergies and sinus infection and has

>> > been VERY defiant this week both at home and school.

>> >

>> > Thanks

>> > mary

>> >

April 26, 2008

was irritable on melatonin when we used to high a dose. When he

was ten and about 40 lbs we used about a 1/2mg. We cut a one mg pill in

1/2.

For a tiny dose of any med is often more effective than

a " normal " dose.

Karyn

>

> Have any of you found that melatonin actually made your kids

irritable the

> next day?? Just curious also anyone here had their child on zoloft

ever??

> We are on depakene, zoloft and trazedone to help with sleep (which it

does

> NOT). So we are going to stop that. I cant tell that zoloft is

making any

> difference at all. He is sick with allergies and sinus infection and

has

> been VERY defiant this week both at home and school.

>

> Thanks

> mary

>

April 30, 2008

Hi all. I finally have an appt. with the Neurologist this coming Monday

to discuss Haylee not sleeping through the night. I have used Melatonin

in the past but never up to 3 mg. before and it did not help. Well, at

the beginning of this week i decided to crush up 3mg. of Melatonin and

give it to her before bed and shes been sleeping all night! Do any of

you use 3mg. or higher for your kids? Haylee is almost 7 and weighs 40

lbs. Im still going to keep my appt. becuase you know she will start

waking up again if i cancel

April 30, 2008

In a message dated 4/30/2008 7:33:41 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

christineandhaylee@... writes:

Do any of

you use 3mg. or higher for your kids? Haylee is almost 7 and weighs 40

lbs. Im still going to keep my appt. becuase you know she will start

waking up again if i cancel

Maddie is 14, and weighs about 125. She gets one 3mg tablet a night. She

also takes .5 abilify nightly which helps with sleep, among other things.

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April 30, 2008

In a message dated 4/30/2008 8:22:46 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

MTZAHN@... writes:

Do you crush it or get liquid??

mary

We crush Maddie's.

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April 30, 2008

duffey48@... wrote:

>

> In a message dated 4/30/2008 7:33:41 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> christineandhaylee@... <mailto:christineandhaylee%40cox.net> writes:

>

> Do any of

> you use 3mg. or higher for your kids? Haylee is almost 7 and weighs 40

> lbs. Im still going to keep my appt. becuase you know she will start

> waking up again if i cancel

>

> Maddie is 14, and weighs about 125. She gets one 3mg tablet a night. She

> also takes .5 abilify nightly which helps with sleep, among other things.

> Donna

>

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>

April 30, 2008

Logan takes 6 mg along with his other meds. He is almost 9 and weighs 74

lbs.

_____

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf

Of christine

Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 2:32 AM

To:

Subject: melatonin

Hi all. I finally have an appt. with the Neurologist this coming Monday

to discuss Haylee not sleeping through the night. I have used Melatonin

in the past but never up to 3 mg. before and it did not help. Well, at

the beginning of this week i decided to crush up 3mg. of Melatonin and

give it to her before bed and shes been sleeping all night! Do any of

you use 3mg. or higher for your kids? Haylee is almost 7 and weighs 40

lbs. Im still going to keep my appt. becuase you know she will start

waking up again if i cancel

April 30, 2008

Liz,

Not all of the tablets are time released. It depends on the brand/mfg.

_____

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf

Of Liz DeSantis

Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 6:45 AM

To:

Subject: Re: melatonin

: Tori has always gotten 3 ml liquid...or a 3 mg. tablet. Just

remember the tablets are time released. She is 8 and weighs 53.5 lbs.

Liz

melatonin

Hi all. I finally have an appt. with the Neurologist this coming Monday

to discuss Haylee not sleeping through the night. I have used Melatonin

in the past but never up to 3 mg. before and it did not help. Well, at

the beginning of this week i decided to crush up 3mg. of Melatonin and

give it to her before bed and shes been sleeping all night! Do any of

you use 3mg. or higher for your kids? Haylee is almost 7 and weighs 40

lbs. Im still going to keep my appt. becuase you know she will start

waking up again if i cancel

April 30, 2008

Do you crush it or get liquid??

mary

On 4/30/08 8:20 AM, " L. Davenport "

wrote:

>

> Logan takes 6 mg along with his other meds. He is almost 9 and weighs 74

> lbs.

>

> _____

>

> From: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>

> [mailto: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> ] On

> Behalf

> Of christine

> Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 2:32 AM

> To: <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>

> Subject: melatonin

>

> Hi all. I finally have an appt. with the Neurologist this coming Monday

> to discuss Haylee not sleeping through the night. I have used Melatonin

> in the past but never up to 3 mg. before and it did not help. Well, at

> the beginning of this week i decided to crush up 3mg. of Melatonin and

> give it to her before bed and shes been sleeping all night! Do any of

> you use 3mg. or higher for your kids? Haylee is almost 7 and weighs 40

> lbs. Im still going to keep my appt. becuase you know she will start

> waking up again if i cancel

>

April 30, 2008

We are currently using pills that are NOT time released, but we have also

been very successful with a time released spray.

_____

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf

Of Zahn

Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 7:22 AM

To: down syndrome

Subject: Re: melatonin

Do you crush it or get liquid??

mary

On 4/30/08 8:20 AM, " L. Davenport " <melissad@genevasolu

<mailto:melissad%40genevasolutions.com> tions.com>

wrote:

>

> Logan takes 6 mg along with his other meds. He is almost 9 and weighs 74

> lbs.

>

> _____

>

> From: @yahoogrou <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com

<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>

> [mailto:@yahoogrou <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com

<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> ] On

> Behalf

> Of christine

> Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 2:32 AM

> To: @yahoogrou <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com

<mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>

> Subject: melatonin

>

> Hi all. I finally have an appt. with the Neurologist this coming Monday

> to discuss Haylee not sleeping through the night. I have used Melatonin

> in the past but never up to 3 mg. before and it did not help. Well, at

> the beginning of this week i decided to crush up 3mg. of Melatonin and

> give it to her before bed and shes been sleeping all night! Do any of

> you use 3mg. or higher for your kids? Haylee is almost 7 and weighs 40

> lbs. Im still going to keep my appt. becuase you know she will start

> waking up again if i cancel

>

April 30, 2008

Ahh, I was not aware of that. Sorry!

Liz

melatonin

Hi all. I finally have an appt. with the Neurologist this coming Monday

to discuss Haylee not sleeping through the night. I have used Melatonin

in the past but never up to 3 mg. before and it did not help. Well, at

the beginning of this week i decided to crush up 3mg. of Melatonin and

give it to her before bed and shes been sleeping all night! Do any of

you use 3mg. or higher for your kids? Haylee is almost 7 and weighs 40

lbs. Im still going to keep my appt. becuase you know she will start

waking up again if i cancel

April 30, 2008

I think your fine. I sometimes think that our family doctor thinks we

practice Witch Craft with Logan. He sees a sleep specialist, though, and

she used to say 3, up to 4 mg. Now, she says up to 6 is fine because he is

heavier and taller. She said that there is no chance of addiction to

melatonin and the efficacy does not wear off in time like it does with other

medications as it naturally occurs in the body.

We used to use the spray that you did, by Source Naturals. I, too, am

currently using the CVS brand as I had it on hand when we ran out of the

spray and it worked - " if it ain't broke, don't fix it " . I am not sure how

much help the neurologist will be as Logan has never seen one. You may want

to see if there is a pediatric sleep specialist in your area - I have no

idea where we would be without her.

Good luck!

_____

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf

Of christine

Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 3:58 AM

To:

Subject: Re: melatonin

duffey48aol (DOT) <mailto:duffey48%40aol.com> com wrote:

>

> In a message dated 4/30/2008 7:33:41 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> christineandhaylee@ <mailto:christineandhaylee%40cox.net> cox.net

<mailto:christineandhaylee%40cox.net> writes:

>

> Do any of

> you use 3mg. or higher for your kids? Haylee is almost 7 and weighs 40

> lbs. Im still going to keep my appt. becuase you know she will start

> waking up again if i cancel

>

> Maddie is 14, and weighs about 125. She gets one 3mg tablet a night. She

> also takes .5 abilify nightly which helps with sleep, among other things.

> Donna

>

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April 30, 2008

,

Just be cautious down the road when giving some type of sleep aide for

the male hormones, this could cause erections like a Viagra effect

now or later as they get older.

These are the side effects, review the label on it or speak to a

pharmacist.

A lot of people think that because something is

natural or herbal is safe but some of these products can alter the

effect of other medications. Of course I am not an expert but that is

my suggestion.

On another note, glad for all those who have mentioned that the

Melatonin has worked for your child and of course you do what you

gotta do but wanted to share our experience on what my son and several

of my friends " son's " underwent.

Several of my son's circle of doc's recommended Melatonin and there

was some side effects. Yes, true every individual are different but

when there is something going on, question to ask is " What is the root

cause, creating this challenge? "

Read the material which is included especially when giving Melatonin

to the " males " , have not heard any side effects with the females.

There are some research out which I do not have on hand at this time

which has proven with the side effects my son had experienced and I

had consulted with my son's pharmacist at the time and sure enough he

gave me his input on any of the sleep aides, even those that were

prescribed as I had seeked this route too. Especially when his MD kept

wanting to up the dosage of the prescribed med recommended, this is

when I had to consult with the pharmacist.

Just be cautious and follow your gut instinct.

Irma,19,DS/ASD

>

> I think your fine. I sometimes think that our family doctor thinks we

> practice Witch Craft with Logan. He sees a sleep specialist,

though, and

> she used to say 3, up to 4 mg. Now, she says up to 6 is fine

because he is

> heavier and taller. She said that there is no chance of addiction to

> melatonin and the efficacy does not wear off in time like it does

with other

> medications as it naturally occurs in the body.

>

> We used to use the spray that you did, by Source Naturals. I, too, am

> currently using the CVS brand as I had it on hand when we ran out of the

> spray and it worked - " if it ain't broke, don't fix it " . I am not

sure how

> much help the neurologist will be as Logan has never seen one. You

may want

> to see if there is a pediatric sleep specialist in your area - I have no

> idea where we would be without her.

>

> Good luck!

>

April 30, 2008

Hi dear

I m currently using 2mg with abdullah , although i started wid 0.5mg

a yr back but during the past yr i consulted my ped several time for

the increment n she said the recomended dosage is upto 6mg for

children.remember Abdullah is 6yrs old n weighs about 44lbs.

Regards

Ayesha

>

> Hi all. I finally have an appt. with the Neurologist this coming

Monday

> to discuss Haylee not sleeping through the night. I have used

Melatonin

> in the past but never up to 3 mg. before and it did not help. Well,

at

> the beginning of this week i decided to crush up 3mg. of Melatonin

and

> give it to her before bed and shes been sleeping all night! Do any

of

> you use 3mg. or higher for your kids? Haylee is almost 7 and weighs

40

> lbs. Im still going to keep my appt. becuase you know she will start

> waking up again if i cancel

>

April 30, 2008

McDonnell wrote:

>

> Yes, my son, , uses 3mg. of the time-released melatonin- it

> enables him to sleep through the night.

> He is 4.5 yrs. old and weighs 36 lbs. His neuro-developemental ped.

> told us we could go up to 6 mg. if necessary.

> Definitely check w/ your doc to see if this would apply to Haylee's

> case. 's doc believes it is a benign supplement.

> Good luck!

> Best,

>

> Mom to , 4.5 yrs. old

> DS-PDD/NOS

>

> To: @...

> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.comFrom>:

> christineandhaylee@...

> <mailto:christineandhaylee%40cox.netDate>: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 14:32:09

> +0700Subject: melatonin

>

> Hi all. I finally have an appt. with the Neurologist this coming

> Mondayto discuss Haylee not sleeping through the night. I have used

> Melatoninin the past but never up to 3 mg. before and it did not help.

> Well, atthe beginning of this week i decided to crush up 3mg. of

> Melatonin andgive it to her before bed and shes been sleeping all

> night! Do any ofyou use 3mg. or higher for your kids? Haylee is almost

> 7 and weighs 40lbs. Im still going to keep my appt. becuase you know

> she will startwaking up again if i cancel

>

April 30, 2008

We were giving Isaiah 3mg of the regular tablets plus 6 of the time released.

He weighs 105 lbs and is 11 yrs old.

melatonin

Hi all. I finally have an appt. with the Neurologist this coming Monday

to discuss Haylee not sleeping through the night. I have used Melatonin

in the past but never up to 3 mg. before and it did not help. Well, at

the beginning of this week i decided to crush up 3mg. of Melatonin and

give it to her before bed and shes been sleeping all night! Do any of

you use 3mg. or higher for your kids? Haylee is almost 7 and weighs 40

lbs. Im still going to keep my appt. becuase you know she will start

waking up again if i cancel

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April 30, 2008

Zahn wrote:

>

> Maybe I am not giving age 10 weighs 70 pounds enough to see a

> difference. We were giving 1 1/2 mg at night and we thought he was

> irritable in the am??

> mary

>

> On 4/30/08 3:19 PM, " McDonnell " <brendamcdonnell@...

> <mailto:brendamcdonnell%40msn.com>> wrote:

>

> >

> > Yes, my son, , uses 3mg. of the time-released melatonin- it

> enables him

> > to sleep through the night.

> > He is 4.5 yrs. old and weighs 36 lbs. His neuro-developemental ped.

> told us we

> > could go up to 6 mg. if necessary.

> > Definitely check w/ your doc to see if this would apply to Haylee's

> case.

> > 's doc believes it is a benign supplement.

> > Good luck!

> > Best,

> >

> > Mom to , 4.5 yrs. old

> > DS-PDD/NOS

> >

> > To: @...

> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.comFrom>

> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.comFrom> :

> > christineandhaylee@...

> <mailto:christineandhaylee%40cox.netDate>

> <mailto:christineandhaylee%40cox.netDate> :

> > Wed, 30 Apr 2008 14:32:09 +0700Subject: melatonin

> >

> > Hi all. I finally have an appt. with the Neurologist this coming

> Mondayto

> > discuss Haylee not sleeping through the night. I have used

> Melatoninin the

> > past but never up to 3 mg. before and it did not help. Well, atthe

> beginning

> > of this week i decided to crush up 3mg. of Melatonin andgive it to

> her before

> > bed and shes been sleeping all night! Do any ofyou use 3mg. or

> higher for your

> > kids? Haylee is almost 7 and weighs 40lbs. Im still going to keep my

> appt.

> > becuase you know she will startwaking up again if i cancel

> >

April 30, 2008

It seems most of our children with the dual diagnosis go through the yo yo

sleeping. My daughter knock on wood ,has not done this since she turned 5.

She is almost 7. She does get up everynight though and crawls in the bed with

me. That is ok though because she sleeps through then. I remember how bad it

used to be though. She would get up and nothing could get her back to

sleep. Sometimes she would have laughing spells and other times crying or back

and forth. We were all miserable and did not think it would ever end. But God

bless we have a repreive! I think sometimes it is something they are going

through and just can not communicate to you what is bothering them so it is

difficult for them to sleep just like it would be for any of us.

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Irma,

Thanks for the reminder. Luckily, our sleep specialist has discussed this

with us, but at this point is a non-issue, but I am sure could be soon.

_____

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Of mum592001

Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 9:50 AM