Guest guest Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 Yep, it all boggles the mind, doesn't it? I wish you, , and ew all lived in my neighborhood so I could share your homegrown wares!! I've been so busy trying to get ready for a big art festival this weekend, I haven't even had a chance to set up my aero gardens yet (which is why hasn't heard from me, asking for help yet). Have been painting when I'm not at work and there's been little extra time. Anyway, I'm still around and so wish I had someone to supply me with that good, fresh, homegrown stuff - would just love it!! Anyhoo, Melody and others - it is amazing what people deem unacceptable to eat as they choose instead to put inedible items in their grocery carts or eat things that are stripped of nutrition or any redeeming value to healthy lifestyle. So, we just need to educate when we see the desire to learn in others and let the rest come along if and when they're ready. Thea From: sproutpeople [mailto:sproutpeople ] On Behalf Of Melody Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 9:13 AM To: sproutpeople Subject: Re: Broccoli Sprouts Do you know how many times a person has said the following to me: " I know that your sprouts are contaminated with e-coli " . I would respond " Oh yeah, and how do you know this " ? and they would say: " Well, I read that people died from eating Alfalfa sprouts, so that means all sprouts are contaminated so I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU WOULD GROW SPROUTS " I would gently say " Would you like me to educate you on WHICH sprouts were contaminated and WHY they were contaminated " and that there has NEVER been a case where someone has died from their HOME GROWN SPROUTS?? " " Its the companies that grow them in fields and they have been contaminated by an outside source and then the sprouts were packaged and sold AND THAT'S HOW PEOPLE GET SICK " ????? They would look at me and say " But the article said that sprouts killed people, what are you talking about? " Well,!!!!! to say that I no longer try to educate people, is putting it mildly. I'll never forget when a family member (at some anniversary get together), and who knew I was a sprouter, walked over to me and said " Oh, it's too bad that you are sprouting those broccoli sprouts for nothing, they don't really do anything? " I said " Oh really, I shall email your wife tomorrow with a video from the American Cancer Society " and I did, and it refuted anything that this person said. Made no difference whatsoever. When a person has a mind set in a certain way, NOTHING YOU SAY OR DO will change that way of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 I was in line at my local grocery store. The woman in front of me had two little girls. In her basket were a family size box of Twinkies and a 18 pack of a juice box. Some juice boxes have some juice in them. This brand does not. I wanted sooo badly to explain to the woman how she was killing her children, but unfortunately, in today's society, you just can't say anything. ew RE: Convincing others! Yep, it all boggles the mind, doesn't it? I wish you, , and ew all lived in my neighborhood so I could share your homegrown wares!! I've been so busy trying to get ready for a big art festival this weekend, I haven't even had a chance to set up my aero gardens yet (which is why hasn't heard from me, asking for help yet). Have been painting when I'm not at work and there's been little extra time. Anyway, I'm still around and so wish I had someone to supply me with that good, fresh, homegrown stuff - would just love it!! Anyhoo, Melody and others - it is amazing what people deem unacceptable to eat as they choose instead to put inedible items in their grocery carts or eat things that are stripped of nutrition or any redeeming value to healthy lifestyle. So, we just need to educate when we see the desire to learn in others and let the rest come along if and when they're ready. Thea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 You're so right - my grandniece (lives in another state) is fed hot dogs and other unsavory items, and most recently, 'sprinkles' for breakfast simply because she wanted them (this came to me courtesy of a Facebook photo taken by her mom). I'm not too sure I even know what 'sprinkles' are but they're not meant to be food for a 2 yr old - that's for sure! Get so concerned about health issues that will be created by such nonsense. Like you, ew - I don't feel I can say anything, even to a family member such as my niece (but I might talk to her mom (my twin sister), about it and let her address it!). T. From: sproutpeople [mailto:sproutpeople ] On Behalf Of Ernest Willingham Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 10:58 AM To: sproutpeople Subject: RE: Convincing others! I was in line at my local grocery store. The woman in front of me had two little girls. In her basket were a family size box of Twinkies and a 18 pack of a juice box. Some juice boxes have some juice in them. This brand does not. I wanted sooo badly to explain to the woman how she was killing her children, but unfortunately, in today's society, you just can't say anything. ew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 My house has always been the hang out place for my daughter's friends, and we often have a houseful. When they were younger (about 7), one day I set out a platter of freshly picked veggies and homemade dip. Most of the kids had been coming here for years, but we had a new little girl in the group-the others dove right in to the platter, being quite used to such things. The new girl leaned down and pointed to a baby carrot and asked what it was! Then pointed to celery and grape tomatoes and asked what THEY were! She didn't want to try any at first-said she had never had any of them, but once she got started, she couldn't stop-especially with the carrots. Now, 10 years later, she is still a regular at our house, and DIVES into the sprouts and veggies when she is here (which is very often) She said she has asked her mother many times to buy her veggies at the store, but her mother won't hear of it! Over the years, this little girl has learned about gardening from me, and often helps, loving to pluck stuff straight from the ground and munch happily. They all go CRAZY over my fresh berry sorbet that I make in my Vitamix...using nothing but fresh berries from the garden. I feel quite certain the only time any of these kids get true nutrition is when they are here...probably why they keep coming back, lol. > > I was in line at my local grocery store. The woman in front of me had two little girls. In her basket were a family size box of Twinkies and a 18 pack of a juice box. Some juice boxes have some juice in them. This brand does not. I wanted sooo badly to explain to the woman how she was killing her children, but unfortunately, in today's society, you just can't say anything. > ew > > RE: Convincing others! > > Yep, it all boggles the mind, doesn't it? I wish you, , and ew all > lived in my neighborhood so I could share your homegrown wares!! I've been > so busy trying to get ready for a big art festival this weekend, I haven't > even had a chance to set up my aero gardens yet (which is why hasn't > heard from me, asking for help yet). Have been painting when I'm not at > work and there's been little extra time. Anyway, I'm still around and so > wish I had someone to supply me with that good, fresh, homegrown stuff - > would just love it!! > > Anyhoo, Melody and others - it is amazing what people deem unacceptable to > eat as they choose instead to put inedible items in their grocery carts or > eat things that are stripped of nutrition or any redeeming value to healthy > lifestyle. So, we just need to educate when we see the desire to learn in > others and let the rest come along if and when they're ready. > > Thea > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 Being vegetarian, and growing most of our own food, I rarely set foot in a grocery store. On the rare occasion that I do, I can SMELL the crappy chemicals and stuff. About the only time we have storebought food in our house is when my daughter is having a sleep over, and the smell of it makes me gag-(think doritos and jarred cheese sauce) My daughter doesn't touch the stuff, but her friends are used to it, so we get it sometimes, but more often than not, they are happier with our fresh food and homemade sodas (they love that they can pick what goes in to their soda and have fun making it-fresh ginger, lime, and honey seems to be the favorite) I am THRILLED that I developed food allergies years ago and had to learn the truth about food...I think my daughter's health is far better for it, since she was raised on fresh stuff, not packaged crap. She has none of the " teenage " issues that her peers do, such as acne, painful periods, weight issues etc. Her doctor says he wishes all of his patients were in the same boat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 It is good to hear that some kids are being exposed to good healthy food. Our society has moved so far from what was considered normal in the past. Now days if you cook, garden, grow sprouts, make your kids do chores (child abuse!) you are considered very abnormal. There is a YouTube video that is well worth watching even though it is about an hour long called " Folks, This ain't normal! " by rancher Salatin. http://bit.ly/JgNCa2 Lee > My house has always been the hang out place for my daughter's friends, and we often have a houseful. When they were younger (about 7), one day I set out a platter of freshly picked veggies and homemade dip. Most of the kids had been coming here for years, but we had a new little girl in the group-the others dove right in to the platter, being quite used to such things. The new girl leaned down and pointed to a baby carrot and asked what it was! Then pointed to celery and grape tomatoes and asked what THEY were! She didn't want to try any at first-said she had never had any of them, but once she got started, she couldn't stop-especially with the carrots. Now, 10 years later, she is still a regular at our house, and DIVES into the sprouts and veggies when she is here (which is very often) She said she has asked her mother many times to buy her veggies at the store, but her mother won't hear of it! Over the years, this little girl has learned about gardening from me, and often helps, loving to pluck stuff straight from the ground and munch happily. They all go CRAZY over my fresh berry sorbet that I make in my Vitamix...using nothing but fresh berries from the garden. I feel quite certain the only time any of these kids get true nutrition is when they are here...probably why they keep coming back, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 Oliver came here the United States and tried to campaign against school lunches-you wouldn't BELIEVE the hostility he was met with by the authorities and school system! They acted like he was some crazed nut who wanted to poison the children with healthy food! The series is called FOOD REVOLUTION and can be seen online-I think on ABC...unreal how people's concept of food is soooo skewed! > > > > > My house has always been the hang out place for my daughter's friends, and we often have a houseful.I feel quite certain the only time any of these kids get true nutrition is when they are here...probably why they keep coming back, lol. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 LOL, thanks, Thea-I can think of worse things I could have passed on. This young lady said when she has kids, she will feed them " loads of veggies " -so perhaps you are right that it will have made a lasting impression...lets hope! > > , > > That's both a sad and an inspirational story. You're like the Pied Piper of > Veggieland, LOL! I really don't get that girl's mother not buying veggies > for her - that's a travesty! Glad you're there to educate and > 'nutritionate'(LOL)!! I know that what the children/now teens derived from > your 'show and tells' will resonate with them the rest of their lives and > hopefully, set the stage for healthy lifestyle when they have their own > children. > > > > Thea > > > > From: sproutpeople [mailto:sproutpeople ] On > Behalf Of > Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 11:10 AM > To: sproutpeople > Subject: Re: Convincing others! > > > > My house has always been the hang out place for my daughter's friends, and > we often have a houseful. When they were younger (about 7), one day I set > out a platter of freshly picked veggies and homemade dip. Most of the kids > had been coming here for years, but we had a new little girl in the > group-the others dove right in to the platter, being quite used to such > things. The new girl leaned down and pointed to a baby carrot and asked what > it was! Then pointed to celery and grape tomatoes and asked what THEY were! > She didn't want to try any at first-said she had never had any of them, but > once she got started, she couldn't stop-especially with the carrots. Now, 10 > years later, she is still a regular at our house, and DIVES into the sprouts > and veggies when she is here (which is very often) She said she has asked > her mother many times to buy her veggies at the store, but her mother won't > hear of it! Over the years, this little girl has learned about gardening > from me, and often helps, loving to pluck stuff straight from the ground and > munch happily. They all go CRAZY over my fresh berry sorbet that I make in > my Vitamix...using nothing but fresh berries from the garden. I feel quite > certain the only time any of these kids get true nutrition is when they are > here...probably why they keep coming back, lol. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 I thought beets would grow more like potatoes as well and have a bunch of beets at root level. Are turnips like beets and one per plant? That is the pitts. I want to plant some potatoes in some bags but not sure my bags ae big enough. Dos one eye grow a bunch of potatoes or only one and so have to put in several eyes?  How deep is the dirt under a piece of potato? And then we put dirt on top to keep it covered a bit as it grows up? How do I know when to stop or do I go to the top of the container bag? Then let it grow until the top plant dies off and then dump the bag over? Would 1-1/2 to 2 ft high and 2 or 2-1/2 feet across be big enough to grow the potatoes and sweet potatoes?  When I planted my corn, I tried to plant beans around it and squash on each end of the 36 " container - 3 sisters. Not sure I did it right and I got a bit happy and put some on the other side as well. We'll see what happens. I wasn't sure on tomatoes on how many to plant in that container.  I looked at the photo of this box on LTD and it looked like it had several tomatoes grown close toghether whenI have always read that they need about 1 sq. ft for a tomato. I have a square foot gardening book around here someplace. But that didn't look like what they had up there. if they work, I'll take photos.  Carolyn Wilkerson  To: sproutpeople Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 10:35 AM Subject: Re: Convincing others!  I knew NOTHING about gardening when I first started-being raised in London, England, I had rarely ever even seen a garden, olther than flowers. When I planted my first garden, I actually planted ONE beet seed, thinking it would grow in a bunch, like they came in the grocery store!! lol. Imagine my surprise when my one tiny beet popped up in the garden! That was many years ago though, and I have learned that you can grow pretty much anything, anywhere! As for meats, we often substitute minced portabello mushrooms in place of ground beef, or grill them as a " burger " . We also use french lentils in place of meat=both work well in any recipe calling for ground beef. > > It amazes me that you grow most of your own food. I have never tried the homemade sodas. I try to have a soda only once a day and to drink water other times. I feel for your daughter's friends though I don't care that much for doritos but some salt free maize chips with cheese (either out of that jar or shredded or torn up sharp cheddar does call to me. >  > But I'mtrying to think more of veggies. I planted some today and can only hope they grow. I think the container will be good as it has that well of water underneath it. I did stuff a red pepper and would have done a yellow one but it had a little hole in the bottom and some bite marks inside so I tossed it even though it looked good from the outside. I was disappointed. Those came from the store though. I did use meat and rice in it and tomatoes and seems like catsup provides the sugar to make it taste good. And a bit of cheese. I thought about adding some black beans to it as well. I made tacos for lunch and used the ground meat in both dishes. Have more left for the stuffed pepper so may go back to store to get another to parboil and fill. Maybe I should get some cabbage too for stuffed cabbage. I haven't figured out how to do all this without the meat. I know y ou would probably do it with beans. > > Carolyn Wilkerson > > >  > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 , Would you mind sharing your fresh ginger, lime, and honey soda recipe? > > > Being vegetarian, and growing most of our own food, I rarely set foot in a grocery store. On the rare occasion that I do, I can SMELL the crappy chemicals and stuff. About the only time we have storebought food in our house is when my daughter is having a sleep over, and the smell of it makes me gag-(think doritos and jarred cheese sauce) My daughter doesn't touch the stuff, but her friends are used to it, so we get it sometimes, but more often than not, they are happier with our fresh food and homemade sodas (they love that they can pick what goes in to their soda and have fun making it-fresh ginger, lime, and honey seems to be the favorite) I am THRILLED that I developed food allergies years ago and had to learn the truth about food...I think my daughter's health is far better for it, since she was raised on fresh stuff, not packaged crap. She has none of the " teenage " issues that her peers do, such as acne, painful periods, weight issues etc. Her doctor says he wishes all of his patients were in the same boat. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 Sure-I just use a couple of slices of peeled organic ginger (i poke it with a fork a few times to get the juice flowing) a couple of slices of fresh organi lime, and a healthy squeeze of raw honey or blue raw agave (you can use sweetener of choice) I put all of these in a glass bottle and buzz up some water in my sodastream or Isi siphon, then pour the fizzy water on the fruits/sweetener, and give it a gentle swirl to combine the flavors-letting it sit at room temp overnight develops the flavors better. If you don't have a soda maker, you can use bottled club soda or other fizzy water to pour over the fruits-VOSS is a good brand of fizzy water. If you are not familiar with the Isi or Sodastream, email me at berrywell@... and I can send you a link...the link I have has to be emailed for some reason, won't post in the group. Either gadget pays for itself very quickly. We make fresh raspberry/blueberry/black current, etc. sodas when our fruits are in season in our yard. > > > > > > Being vegetarian, and growing most of our own food, I rarely set foot in a grocery store. On the rare occasion that I do, I can SMELL the crappy chemicals and stuff. About the only time we have storebought food in our house is when my daughter is having a sleep over, and the smell of it makes me gag-(think doritos and jarred cheese sauce) My daughter doesn't touch the stuff, but her friends are used to it, so we get it sometimes, but more often than not, they are happier with our fresh food and homemade sodas (they love that they can pick what goes in to their soda and have fun making it-fresh ginger, lime, and honey seems to be the favorite) I am THRILLED that I developed food allergies years ago and had to learn the truth about food...I think my daughter's health is far better for it, since she was raised on fresh stuff, not packaged crap. She has none of the " teenage " issues that her peers do, such as acne, painful periods, weight issues etc. Her doctor says he wishes all of his patients were in the same boat. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 Lee, THANK YOU for giving us this link to Salatin. It took me a while to get to it, but it is incredible. I love the story of the art teacher who asked students to bring in any pot from their kitchen to draw and 22 students, 10th grade -- no one had a kitchen pot. The food police have won when growing a tomato on your property results in fines. I recommend every sprouter watch this and send it to all your friends. Again, thank you so much Lee. Lucy in TX > > > My house has always been the hang out place for my daughter's friends, and we often have a houseful. When they were younger (about 7), one day I set out a platter of freshly picked veggies and homemade dip. Most of the kids had been coming here for years, but we had a new little girl in the group-the others dove right in to the platter, being quite used to such things. The new girl leaned down and pointed to a baby carrot and asked what it was! Then pointed to celery and grape tomatoes and asked what THEY were! She didn't want to try any at first-said she had never had any of them, but once she got started, she couldn't stop-especially with the carrots. Now, 10 years later, she is still a regular at our house, and DIVES into the sprouts and veggies when she is here (which is very often) She said she has asked her mother many times to buy her veggies at the store, but her mother won't hear of it! Over the years, this little girl has learned about gardening from me, and often helps, loving to pluck stuff straight from the ground and munch happily. They all go CRAZY over my fresh berry sorbet that I make in my Vitamix...using nothing but fresh berries from the garden. I feel quite certain the only time any of these kids get true nutrition is when they are here...probably why they keep coming back, lol. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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