Re: Also diagnosed possibly with OCD for

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In a message dated 10/25/2007 2:01:10 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

megsoracco@... writes:

At our appt they felt she might also be OCD. This confused me. I

always thought of OCD being like hand washing, counting, touching a

light many times or something like that. I wonder how OCD is in

. Most of the appt, despite there being lots of other toys,

bubbles and stuff, she dangled, spinned and played with her beads. Is

this OCD or Autism? Or both?

Well , I know kids with DS who have the OCD dx, but do not have autism.

I understand the difference to be clear.......in autism you have to have

all three areas affected (communication, repetitiveness/perseveration and

social). A lot of what Maddie does would look like OCD, but it's clearly

her

autism, when you take into account all her behaviors. I have to tell you

that like , no matter how many toys Maddie would be exposed to, she'd

do the same thing as . Do I think she has OCD? NO, I think she has

autism. If her social and communication skills were different, I'd be

sure she had OCD if she dangled, stimmed and perseverated.

Donna

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I have often wondered if somne people don't consider OCD and PErseverative

disorder to be the same thing. I DON'T. To me obsessive means can not be

redirected (there is a compulsion) and perseverative means to persist or

keep doing, but can be re-directed (not always easily. ) What do you guys

think?? Words are just words until we make them have meaning!!!

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> At our appt they felt she might also be OCD. This confused me. I

> always thought of OCD being like hand washing, counting, touching a

> light many times or something like that. I wonder how OCD is in

> . Most of the appt, despite there being lots of other toys,

> bubbles and stuff, she dangled, spinned and played with her beads. Is

> this OCD or Autism? Or both?

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>

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Sara - Life is a journey- we choose the path.

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<<I have often wondered if somne people don't consider OCD and PErseverative

disorder to be the same thing. I DON'T. To me obsessive means can not be

redirected (there is a compulsion) and perseverative means to persist or

keep doing, but can be re-directed (not always easily. ) What do you guys

think?>>

I think 's constant stimming with books and rewinding etc. are

perseverative. However the fact that she HAS to have the door open to precisely

a certain angle. and the blinds as well, that she refuses to wear anything

different or new, that she will only eat out of one particular dish etc....that

to me seems like OCD. I don't know for sure. She doesn't have a specific dx of

OCD but we've discussed it frequently with her neuro. Also in the book (again

with the book!) Mental Wellness in Adults with DS...OCD like behaviors appear to

be a strong component of " just " DS, not only Autism. And I've definitely seen

them in DS kids who are not dxed with Autism. actually has to be

physically forced to abandon a self imposed routine and yet appears to feel

some relief when she is freed from that compulsion.

Sherry