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In a message dated 7/23/2007 12:20:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

christine1223@... writes:

We have Tri Care Ins. so there is no

other Neurologist in case you are wondering why go back to him and Hes

an hour away.

Try calling the insurance company. Explain that this guy is one hour away

and it is not conducive to your daughters health and well being to travel that

long, especially if you need to see him regularly.

Perhaps they will give you a waiver to see someone out of network if you can

find someone willing to take what the insurance will pay. Or perhaps you

could make up the difference.

I did this with Birgitta's dentist and with the group who makes her

orthodics. The only dentist on her plan was 1 1/2 hour away. There was one

closer,

we tried him and he was horrible. I called the insurance company and

complained that I should be able to have a choice of at last two to choose

from. I

told them we had a bad experience with the first and the only other one was

too far for her to travel to.

It is one thing if she only needs to see a specialist once or twice a year

but if you need to go monthly or whatever the doctor should be closer.

I had to go up the chain of command and kept asking each person I spoke with

to get me their supervisor until I was able to speak to someone who had the

authority to make a decision.

It may not happen but it is worth a try.

Good luck. Birgitta never seeps longer than 2 hours at first and than it is

every hour after that. She bangs, rolls around and I guess I have just

gotten used to lack of sleep.

Blessings, W

homeschooling Mom to AJ (12), (9), ^l^, (5,

Trisomy 18 mosaic AKA 's syndrome) and Birgitta (age 4, adoption

finalized 2/1/05 !!, Trisomy 21 AKA Down's Syndrome, Fetal Alcohol Syndrome,

Autism, SID)

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My daughter is not sleeping through the night. Some of you remember me

asking you all about this a while ago and we've been doing the Melatonin

and Benadryl. It seems like theres just no luck really. There are some

nights where she sleeps ok, meaning she will at least sleep until 5:30am

and theres the nights where she is up at 2am! We took her to the

Endocrinologist this morning for a routine follow up (her

hypothyroidism) and she said we should see a Neurologist. My question

is do you think they can help? what do you think they will try? We used

to see a Neurologist a couple of years ago for her partial complex

seizures which she no longer has but during that time they prescribed

Tenex to help with sleeping but did not help, thats when i started using

the Melatonin and Benadryl. Her tonsils and andenoids are out and she

does not snore or wake up like shes trying to catch her breath, she

actually wakes up pretty happy. Any suggestions? Maybe I should make

an appt. with the Pediatrician. My Pediatrician has no clue what do to

but he should direct me in the right area im hoping. Im also reluctant

to make an appt. with our past Neurologist because on my own I decided I

no longer needed their help because I felt like they couldnt help, lets

just say I was a constant caller to their office and I may have been

kind of rude :-! and now i look like an ass calling them back for help

but you know what it doesnt matter this is my kid im talking about and i

need to suck it up, right??? We have Tri Care Ins. so there is no

other Neurologist in case you are wondering why go back to him and Hes

an hour away.

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was the same way. It was terrible. We just do the melatonin 3mg

routinely each night. Some nights, she'll fall asleep within 15 mins,

others not for hours. Sometimes she sleeps till 8am other times, up at

2. So, we just make sure we have her room dark and her Wiggles

Lullabye music on and keep it cool for her. We have a gate up to keep

her in, a tall gate. And just let her be. She is very content to just

play with her toys all night. Even if I tried to hold her to calm her

back to sleep, I could not. She's 4, and stronger than I am. So, I

guess my reply wasn't very helpful! I am sorry. I just wanted you to

know I can relate!!!

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Tori was a terrible sleeper until we found melatonin. We went for over 6 months

without sleep. Since she started on all her meds, she passes out between 6 & 8

p.m. (typically around 7-7:15) but does not sleep through. She goes to sleep

in her room, but we can't really close the door because she wakes (between 2

a.m. & 5 a.m.) and will bang and slam until one of us goes to her. (we live in

an apt. complex-so we don't want her waking neighbors) Then we have to lay down

with her. It usually winds up being me because dh has to get up at 5:30 for

work. Don't have too much of a choice in our situation...unfortunately. We are

actually trying to get a homeaid to help so they can be with her when she wakes

so I can get a full night's sleep. I can't even remember what that is like.

Liz

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was the same way. It was terrible. We just do the melatonin 3mg

routinely each night. Some nights, she'll fall asleep within 15 mins,

others not for hours. Sometimes she sleeps till 8am other times, up at

2. So, we just make sure we have her room dark and her Wiggles

Lullabye music on and keep it cool for her. We have a gate up to keep

her in, a tall gate. And just let her be. She is very content to just

play with her toys all night. Even if I tried to hold her to calm her

back to sleep, I could not. She's 4, and stronger than I am. So, I

guess my reply wasn't very helpful! I am sorry. I just wanted you to

know I can relate!!!

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Soracco wrote:

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> was the same way. It was terrible. We just do the melatonin 3mg

> routinely each night. Some nights, she'll fall asleep within 15 mins,

> others not for hours. Sometimes she sleeps till 8am other times, up at

> 2. So, we just make sure we have her room dark and her Wiggles

> Lullabye music on and keep it cool for her. We have a gate up to keep

> her in, a tall gate. And just let her be. She is very content to just

> play with her toys all night. Even if I tried to hold her to calm her

> back to sleep, I could not. She's 4, and stronger than I am. So, I

> guess my reply wasn't very helpful! I am sorry. I just wanted you to

> know I can relate!!!

>

>

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you know maybe i should just do that! but you see i am weak and i

wouldnt be able to sleep knowing shes in her room alone but maybe just

like you said your daughter is perfectly fine playing with her toys and

Haylee too is the same way. At least that way my husband and i could

finally sleep together in the same room. Haylee usually sleeps in my

bed with me but I had back surgery three weeks ago so I need all the

room I can get right now. I know Haylee would be safe with the gate up

and she loves being in her room I just worry about her feeling maybe

lonely, sad, confused why nobody is around. Who knows its just hard

because she doesnt speak so we just have to guess. Thanks for your

reply it was kind of helpful actually, I mean at least if I do try this

out I know that someone else is also doing it and that would make me

feel better.

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We also used a gate and then a storm door for Elie when he wouldn't sleep.

BUT may I suggest you get a check up to be sure Haylee doesn't have sleep

apnea. For some reason, no one suggested that to us until Elie was 8 yo and

after YEARS of not sleep thru the night, but waking up crying and

screaming. After Elie had surgery for sleep apnea (T & A) we had to retrain

him to sleep. It took over 2 years of using Benedryl at night (melatonin

did not work) to train him to sleep at night. The storm door we eventually

put up (with hardware cloth in place of screen or glass, lock on the outside

of his room)kept him in his room so I could sleep.

>

> Soracco wrote:

> >

> > was the same way. It was terrible. We just do the melatonin 3mg

> > routinely each night. Some nights, she'll fall asleep within 15 mins,

> > others not for hours. Sometimes she sleeps till 8am other times, up at

> > 2. So, we just make sure we have her room dark and her Wiggles

> > Lullabye music on and keep it cool for her. We have a gate up to keep

> > her in, a tall gate. And just let her be. She is very content to just

> > play with her toys all night. Even if I tried to hold her to calm her

> > back to sleep, I could not. She's 4, and stronger than I am. So, I

> > guess my reply wasn't very helpful! I am sorry. I just wanted you to

> > know I can relate!!!

> >

> >

> >

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> > No virus found in this incoming message.

> > Checked by AVG Free Edition.

> > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.14/912 - Release Date:

> 7/22/2007 7:02 PM

> >

> you know maybe i should just do that! but you see i am weak and i

> wouldnt be able to sleep knowing shes in her room alone but maybe just

> like you said your daughter is perfectly fine playing with her toys and

> Haylee too is the same way. At least that way my husband and i could

> finally sleep together in the same room. Haylee usually sleeps in my

> bed with me but I had back surgery three weeks ago so I need all the

> room I can get right now. I know Haylee would be safe with the gate up

> and she loves being in her room I just worry about her feeling maybe

> lonely, sad, confused why nobody is around. Who knows its just hard

> because she doesnt speak so we just have to guess. Thanks for your

> reply it was kind of helpful actually, I mean at least if I do try this

> out I know that someone else is also doing it and that would make me

> feel better.

>

>

--

Sara - Life is a journey- we choose the path.

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Sara - Haylee had her tonsils and adenoids taken out in 2003 for sleep

apnea. My gut is telling me that this is not the problem and Ive been

right almost every time with my gut. When she is sleeping, its a

peaceful and quiet sleep. When she does wake up in the middle of the

night, there is no crying or discomfort of any kind, she actually is in

a pretty good mood and wants to play. I will definitely take her in for

a checkup though. When Elie was waking up at night and you put the

storm door up, did you just let him be and play by himself in his room

while you slept just like did with ?

Sara Cohen wrote:

>

> We also used a gate and then a storm door for Elie when he wouldn't sleep.

> BUT may I suggest you get a check up to be sure Haylee doesn't have sleep

> apnea. For some reason, no one suggested that to us until Elie was 8

> yo and

> after YEARS of not sleep thru the night, but waking up crying and

> screaming. After Elie had surgery for sleep apnea (T & A) we had to

> retrain

> him to sleep. It took over 2 years of using Benedryl at night (melatonin

> did not work) to train him to sleep at night. The storm door we eventually

> put up (with hardware cloth in place of screen or glass, lock on the

> outside

> of his room)kept him in his room so I could sleep.

>

> On 7/23/07, <christine1223@...

> <mailto:christine1223%40cox.net>> wrote:

> >

> > Soracco wrote:

> > >

> > > was the same way. It was terrible. We just do the melatonin 3mg

> > > routinely each night. Some nights, she'll fall asleep within 15 mins,

> > > others not for hours. Sometimes she sleeps till 8am other times, up at

> > > 2. So, we just make sure we have her room dark and her Wiggles

> > > Lullabye music on and keep it cool for her. We have a gate up to keep

> > > her in, a tall gate. And just let her be. She is very content to just

> > > play with her toys all night. Even if I tried to hold her to calm her

> > > back to sleep, I could not. She's 4, and stronger than I am. So, I

> > > guess my reply wasn't very helpful! I am sorry. I just wanted you to

> > > know I can relate!!!

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ----------------------------------------------------------

> > >

> > > No virus found in this incoming message.

> > > Checked by AVG Free Edition.

> > > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.14/912 - Release Date:

> > 7/22/2007 7:02 PM

> > >

> > you know maybe i should just do that! but you see i am weak and i

> > wouldnt be able to sleep knowing shes in her room alone but maybe just

> > like you said your daughter is perfectly fine playing with her toys and

> > Haylee too is the same way. At least that way my husband and i could

> > finally sleep together in the same room. Haylee usually sleeps in my

> > bed with me but I had back surgery three weeks ago so I need all the

> > room I can get right now. I know Haylee would be safe with the gate up

> > and she loves being in her room I just worry about her feeling maybe

> > lonely, sad, confused why nobody is around. Who knows its just hard

> > because she doesnt speak so we just have to guess. Thanks for your

> > reply it was kind of helpful actually, I mean at least if I do try this

> > out I know that someone else is also doing it and that would make me

> > feel better.

> >

> >

>

> --

> Sara - Life is a journey- we choose the path.

>

>

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Oh my gosh iam so glad to have checked my mail my 9yr old daughter

has been doing the same thigs waking up in the middle of the night

3am t play with her music toy (it lightsup) we tried everything we

hav a dutch door also but she just recently learned how to climbed

over it using furniture from her room. we trired giving her

melitonine before bed that worked for a whie but she went back to

geting up. I am concerned that she is not getting enough sleep. what

is trazadone? and do i need a perscripttion to get it.

-- In , " mzdaisee47 " wrote:

>

>

> " Hi all. My 5yr. old daughter has been waking up every single

night

> at 3am till 5am. "

>

> , Janie (8)has a history of waking up at 2 AM for a couple

of

> hours just to play, then she gets up for the day around 6 AM. It

got

> better after she started taking 75 mg of trazodone. Now she

sometimes

> still wakes up during the night but goes right back to sleep until

6

> AM. We used a baby gate, but just moved up to a dutch door my DH

made

> by cutting her door in half. So far only the bottom half is up, but

we

> lock it from outside at night to keep her and the house safe. I

have

> been asked how she would get out in case of fire. She would not

know

> how to get out safely through the door if she could open it. Our

house

> is a rambler so it would be easy and probably safer to get her out

> through her window.

>

> P.

>

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