New here

[Guest guest]

Oh no!! The tapes are different?!?! How come?

[Guest guest]

Hi . Thanks for the encouraging words! I do have a question....when

you started working out, did you find your actual weigh ins at WW were

smaller, even though you were losing fat which did not show up on the scale?

Also, did you workout to only Taebo, or did you do other things as well? I

love to hear people's stories and what it took to get there!

Kim

P.S. I just love this group!

[Guest guest]

Im sure you will like this group, they are very supportive, I havent been a

member for a long time so I guess Im new myself, Welcome and keep on kicking

Doris

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the info Joya!! And good luck with your slimfast diet! I get to

famished on that one! I think I'll hop over to ebay now and check it out!

[Guest guest]

Wow!! Sounds like a fantastic trip! Wish I could go! LOL

[Guest guest]

Welcome to the group, Kim! Have you tried e-bay? There are always Tae Bo

tapes over there and maybe you can get a good bargain and have a few more.

There are also other kickboxing tapes to be had there.

I decided to do the Slim Fast diet for the next three weeks because I have

a trip coming up...I lost 5 pounds this week. And it isn't expensive. I

am pretty impressed with all the vitamins it contains...the calcium alone

fulfills your daily requirement. Now I am generally a low carber, but this

is okay...I was hungry the first two days, but then it went away.

Joya

[Guest guest]

Kim,

Welcome to the Group! You've come to the right place for support.

Many of us are in the process of losing or maintaining on WW. (I lost

70 pounds on WW and have been maintaining for almost 2 years. Don't

be discouraged by an occasional slip...it's not the end of the

world. What is important is to forgive yourself and get back on

track. (I have found that getting back on track is a LOT easier when

I forgive myself for any transgression!)

I suggest that you call Tae Bo and tell them you have a defective

tape. They should give you a new one.

I know how hard it is not to focus on the weight, but all of the

veterans of this group, myself included, will tell you that the

journey to your goal is probably more important than making it to the

goal. By taking note of the changes you experience along the way,

many of which are subtle, you will enjoy yourself a whole lot more

and grow inside (while you shrink on the outside!).

Be good to yourself!

;-)

F

> Hi everyone,

>

> I am new to this egroup, and I'm hoping to give and GET support

from this

> group with exercise. I started Weight Watchers a few weeks ago,

and fell off

> the band wagon yesterday. Needless to say, I was very discouraged,

so I am

> looking for all the motivation I can get. I like Taebo, and I have

a few

> tapes. Unfortunately, my volume 1 advanced is broke! I went to

put it in

> last night and it was BROKE! I am on a very limited budget (newly

single

> mom) and I went to the TaeBo website and ordered volume 2

advanced. Sounds

> like most people really like that one. What is everyone's opinion

as far as

> their favorite live tape? I would love to join the video of the

month, but

> because of my limited budget right now, the extra $30 a month is

hard to

> swallow. I would love to hear your opinions (and any motivation

you want to

> offer!! :-))

>

> Good luck to everyone!

>

> Kim

[Guest guest]

Welcome to the group, ! Everyone's already given you great advice, so

I'll just say my 14 year old daughter is on Lexapro 10mg. She started on

Zoloft, but couldn't get up to the dose needed due to aggression side effects.

She also lost a lot of weight on Zoloft. Other than some drowsiness and gaining

some of the lost weight back, she's doing ok. Hers is the contamination OCD,

currently fixated on a fear of gravel.

She started with major reassurance rituals which have almost entirely

disappeared. We've learned to live and work with what's left over, though we

are considering increasing her dosage in March (after we return from an overseas

trip).

Debbie

http://twochinadolls.blogspot.com

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[Guest guest]

First off . . . welcome, Shauna! Rest assured you are definitely NOT alone, nor

is your daughter with her curret obsession! I don't have any specific advice

since my daughter hasn't brought that one home yet -- that I know of. She's

nine now and tends to keep certain of her OCD issues under wraps.

I'm Beth, mom to Kate who was diagnosed at age 8 but had her first major episode

of OCD at age 7. We hoped it was just a fluke but . . . well . . . it wasn't.

Have you got a copy of " What to Do When Your Brain Gets Stuck " ? It is an

excellent workbook suitable for kids ages 6 to 10-ish that explains that our

brain has a " trash sorter " but sometimes that sorter gets stuck. We all have

crazy fleeting thoughts (like your daughter's wanting to touch a penis) but we

usually are able to pass that off as a ridiculous or silly thought and be done

with it. Not so with our daughters' brains -- they have a crazy thought (Sam's

germs will make my stuff animals dissolve) and they start to obsess about that.

What if it's true? Maybe it is! It could be true! And so on . . .

The books is about $10 on Amazon and well worth looking at with your daughter!

In any case, welcome and I'm sure you'll get many responses from others with

similar obsessions as your daughter . . . and, yes, at six years old (or

younger)!

Beth

[Guest guest]

Oh my goodness, you need serious mom hugs! What a trial. We have a 7 year old,

and can absolutely relate, although our obsessions are in different areas. It's

just awful how OCD can take over a childs mind. Despite the fact that it is not

typical for a 6 year old to have obsessions that are sexual in nature, I would

guess that hers are not really " sexual " but are more obsessive in nature about

something she is not supposed to do - so it's popping in all the time. My

daughter has scrupulosity issues, even about the Devil (oh, that kills me), and

believe me, I don't want her talking to another kid or adult about how the devil

is in her, etc, either. I would guess that the problem you are having in

regards to finding info on-line - is NOT that this is really rare - but more

that other parents don't talk about it. I'm sure there are children all over

the country that are in counseling for sexual abuse, that are really just

misdiagnosed OCD. That's one of the things that is so sad about the disease.

You are an AMAZING mom - you have figured out what is really wrong, and that is

half (or more) of the battle. Have you found a top therapist that really

understands OCD & ERP (Exposure & Ritual Prevention therapy)? You have such a

great opportunity with the summer at hand - you can get a good handle on things

before the new school year starts.

If I were you, I might consider having a letter from both your therapist and

your pdoc that explains the situation (you may need to write this for them and

then get them to copy onto letterhead & sign). I'd have this on hand at home,

get cell numbers for them both in case of CPS emergency (evenings). If they are

not willing to do this, find someone who is. Your fear that your daughter will

be sexually active at an early age is highly unlikely because you are

treating this with dignity & power. But your fear that someone else will

misunderstand is realistic and perhaps even likely. Despite the uncomfortable

nature of this, I would suggest that this letter accompany any care giver & is

filed at school as well (next year, if you still have issues). My daughter has

a simple " hemotoba " (no clue how to spell) on her back since birth, and it looks

like a mean bruise. We have had SO many questions about this, as soon as summer

starts, and have filed letters about it every year, and have docummented with

pictures over the years. So when it is raised, I just calmly say " yes, we have

a doctor's letter on file to explain this - please see the administrator about

it, and you can call the doc if you have any questions. If you'd like some

education from me privately, I'd be happy to spend some time with you as well " .

This gives them relief that they are not ignoring an abuse situation. I used to

take it personally - but there are a lot of abused kids out there & I want them

to get help, so I just found a solution that worked for us. CPS does not want

to remove a child, and they are usually very reasonable if there is

documentation. If you ever did have a problem, remember that they are good

people in general, and that you will resolve quickly. Try to model a very calm

attitude for your child, as that is the worst part for the kids - to see you

really upset. I never got to the stage of thinking of a plan for the " worst

case " , but that might be wise - maybe ask your pdoc what you would do if

something happened or if you know a local social worker friend? Usually, I feel

better if I have a plan for how to deal with the worst - and then, of course, it

rarely happens!

When we were first trying to figure out what had happened to Meg, we also

thought " abuse " . So did every doc that we spoke to for a year, as her

" personality " had changed so dramatically. It was very overwhelming, and at

times, I felt afraid to reach out. Luckily, early on, we had a pdoc that

offered his cell to us & said that he would vouch for our family and explain the

situation if needed. For me, that pretty much eliminated the worry, and I was

able to focus on getting help for her. I would still give him my kidney if he

ever needs it !

In the meantime, I'm so glad that you found this group. There are really

knowledgable parents here that I'm sure will have info to share with you. And

there are lots of us here, with very young kids. Sorry for the long email!

in NC

>

> I just found this support group and I'm hoping it will make me feel not so

alone. My six year old daughter was just diagnosed with OCD. It has been nice

to have a name to what is going on and to realize it wasn't my parenting, but it

is tough!! My daughter has had different obsessions but the most recent one (the

last month) is more related to " inappropriate thoughts " . It has been horrible

because of course my first thought when my six year old started talking about

wanting to touch a penis was that she was molested. She has not been, as we

found out it is her OCD coming out in this form and it is quite normal. The

problem is I'm finding that it is not as normal for a 6 year old. I'm so nervous

she is going to say something wrong to someone and then here comes CPS thinking

we are abusing our child. We don't know how she would even know about these

things. It has been horrible because it's not easy to talk to people about it

due to the nature of her obsession. So many thoughts are going through my mind

and I am nervous. Will she molest someone? Will she have sex early? I know they

are crazy thoughts but that is my mom panic mode!! My realistic thoughts are

that it is the OCD etc.. I can't find many other young kids going through this

with the online research I have done.

> Is there anyone out there who has gone through it? Any suggestions or

thoughts? This is all new to me and I'm trying to be strong but feel very alone.

My husband tries but she tends to tell me everything (anything that comes to her

mind) and so he doesn't deal with it. He also doesn't know what to say.

> I hope someone else has gone through the " sexual obsession " so I can get some

suggestions.

>

> Thanks so much!!

>

> Shauna

>

[Guest guest]

I could add our experiences here too as my son has tics, obssessive thoughts,

fine motor skill issues, ect... But I wanted to say most importantly, for now,

that I also think you need something in writing about the diagnosis in case

anything comes of someone misinterpreting her tics. I would give the principal

at school a copy, her pediatrician, and I would keep a copy in a safe place at

home. Doctors and school personnel in my state have a duty to report suspected

abuse to the authorities and having these measures in place would help avoid any

unnecessary investigation.

Bonnie

> >

> > I just found this support group and I'm hoping it will make me feel not so

alone. My six year old daughter was just diagnosed with OCD. It has been nice

to have a name to what is going on and to realize it wasn't my parenting, but it

is tough!! My daughter has had different obsessions but the most recent one (the

last month) is more related to " inappropriate thoughts " . It has been horrible

because of course my first thought when my six year old started talking about

wanting to touch a penis was that she was molested. She has not been, as we

found out it is her OCD coming out in this form and it is quite normal. The

problem is I'm finding that it is not as normal for a 6 year old. I'm so nervous

she is going to say something wrong to someone and then here comes CPS thinking

we are abusing our child. We don't know how she would even know about these

things. It has been horrible because it's not easy to talk to people about it

due to the nature of her obsession. So many thoughts are going through my mind

and I am nervous. Will she molest someone? Will she have sex early? I know they

are crazy thoughts but that is my mom panic mode!! My realistic thoughts are

that it is the OCD etc.. I can't find many other young kids going through this

with the online research I have done.

> > Is there anyone out there who has gone through it? Any suggestions or

thoughts? This is all new to me and I'm trying to be strong but feel very alone.

My husband tries but she tends to tell me everything (anything that comes to her

mind) and so he doesn't deal with it. He also doesn't know what to say.

> > I hope someone else has gone through the " sexual obsession " so I can get

some suggestions.

> >

> > Thanks so much!!

> >

> > Shauna

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you so much for all your replies!! thank you for the wonderful

self-esteem push!! My eyes teared up just reading what you had to say! It's nice

to have people understand. You have some good suggestions also! Since we are so

new into this, I don't know a good OCD doctor as of yet. The counselor I have

been seeing seems to do well but we will see. I also just moved here (VA from

CA) last year (which is when my daughters symptoms really came out! Nothing like

mom guilt there too!) Anyway, thank you!! Beth, I am going to look for that book

right away!! I just recently talked to her about the OCD so anything will help.

Bonnie, thanks for your suggestions as well!! I will say I have taught

elementary school for 12 years and know about the mandated reporting. That could

be reasons for my deep concern. She does tend to keep it in at school but tells

me everything when she gets home. (I looked at Mr. 's privates all day

today etc....)

Thank you everyone!! I think with me finding this support group, it will help

with my guilt and panic a little more. She just came home today and told me she

just wanted to " do it " (meaning have sex) and " get it over with " because she

just wanted to see what it felt like!! She is 6!!!! We don't talk like that! We

have stopped letting her watch Hannah Montana or ICarly for the last 2 months

just because when these symptoms came out I thought maybe it had something to do

with shows she was watching. YIKES!! This is sooooo hard!!

Thanks again!!

Shauna

>

[Guest guest]

Hello! I am new here too and you are NOT alone, although like me you probably

feel very alone! We have 4 kids too and our oldest, an 11-year old daughter,

has a similar OCD fear of vomiting which often causes her not to eat. We cannot

say the words " sick " , " puke " , " vomit " , " barf " etc to our daughter or we get

screaming, running away, furious anger, etc...once on a phone conversation when

I said the word " sick " she threw a book at me and said " YOU KNOW I HATE THAT

WORD! " etc. We've been seeing a counselor for 6 months with no real

improvement. Right now we are waiting to try and get her into a pediatric

psychiatrist who can't see us until June. She can go for days eating almost

nothing if she is afraid something will make her sick. She can eat if she's

confident everyone in the family is well and if it's something she likes to eat

(pizza, Hershey bars, etc). If one of the siblings gets sick...which often

happens in a family with 4 kids...she becomes furious with the sick child,

insists on sleeping on the sofa, and won't go into certain rooms or eat anything

for fear of becoming sick herself. She can still go to school but really hates

it since children often throw up there..the worst was when a little girl threw

up next to her and got a little puke on my daughter's sleeve...she had a panic

attack and had to come home. She avoids certain seats and restrooms at school

(and the upstairs bathroom at home) since someone was once sick there. No amount

of cleaning will convince her to use them. She is very concerned with food

safety and cleanliness...checking expiration dates, refusing to eat with a fork

that has touched the table, never trying any new restaurants, etc. I worry she

is stunting her own growth as she is already much smaller than her 5th grade

classmates. The school counselor has already called us in in response to one of

her " rage attacks " and expressed concern at how thin she is. I'm embarrassed,

upset, can't believe my daughter has all these issues, etc! It is so sad and

overwhelming. And all the time/attention spent on this problem take away from my

other three kids who don't have OCD issues but who also need a lot of time and

attention! I work full time and my husband stays home with the kids. He is very

involved in Boy Scouts and is gone a lot at campouts/meetings which enable him

to escape the situation at home. I feel like I am bearing the brunt of the

worrying, researching OCD, etc. My daughter has many other issues, too...can't

stand to be around babies for fear they will vomit, refuses to go to amusement

parks anymore, etc. This OCD is really taking a toll on me and putting a big

strain on our marriage. The other children see my daughter's rage attacks and

then they learn from the bad example and treat me rudely too with a lot of loud

yelling. I get so tired of it all...I just want a normal family! I worry how

can we go on like this, how will she ever get through high school, will she ever

be happy again, etc.

But you are NOT alone...it is a very isolating disease and very tough to explain

to people. Hang in there!

>

>

> I'm new to Yahoo Groups, so I'm trying to navigate around the site.

> I'll just write a bit about my daughter and see if there is anyone in

> a similar situation--which I doubt!

>

> I really have no idea how to summarize her disorder. It's not as

> clearcut as hand washing or some of the other rituals I've been

> reading about. My daughter is the oldest of 4 children and had a

> sudden onset of OCD when our youngest, a set of twins, were born 2 1/2

> yrs. ago. She was 7 1/2. While we were dealing with premature twins

> in the NICU, she started having trouble eating. At first she couldn't

> eat at school. Then she couldn't eat at the hospital cafeteria. Then

> she couldn't eat breakfast. Then dinner. She had a hard time trying

> to explain what was happening to her and why she was having difficulty

> eating. She would nibble and try really hard. She finally said she

> was having constant thoughts about throwing up. She was so terrified,

> she was afraid to eat because she might gag. We sought the advice of

> our pediatrician, who referred us to a child psychiatrist. She was

> terrible. We spent 2 mos. having a Dr. tell our child that she

> couldn't eat because she " secretly hated the new babies and thet's

> okay. " My daughter is the sweetest thing and this was scary to her.

> When this wasn't helping, we got a referral to an eating disorder

> clinic and the psychiatrist there. She diagnosed her as having

> OCD--her obsessive thoughts being about vomiting and her compulsion to

> tell me constantly and get reassurance. She was already on Celexa

> (first psychiatrist), but she was starving so terribly they put her in

> the hospital as an inpatient and started Zyprexa and a nasal feeding

> tube. She was refed for a week and then started an intensive

> outpatient therapy program for 3 weeks with the anorexic teens (where

> else do you put a 8 yr. old (now) that won't eat?) Well, her

> diagnosis and reason for not eating was different, but after 3 days,

> she began to slowly eat. She made fast progress and stayed on the

> Zyprexa for 3 mos. After taking her off, she remained better for

> about 6 months and then the thoughts began creeping in again. She had

> an abrupt change 3 weeks ago where her anxiety became severe and she

> stopped eating again and could barely drink anything. We began the

> Zyprexa again and she has improved her eating, but not to a normal

> level. She said her thoughts are still a constant fear of throwing up

> and it consumes her. We switched her to Prozac, and she's still on

> the Zyprexa. Since it hasn't had the same " thought control " effect as

> last time, I started reading more and am trying to become more

> familiar with OCD.

>

> This is difficult to deal with as a family, obviously. She must ask

> me 100 times a day if she's sick, in a variety of ways, for

> reassurance. Of course, every meal is an issue as well because it's

> difficult for her to feel full (she may vomit!), so she doesn't take

> in many calories, or just nibbles. Since this has basically taken

> over our lives, I'm going to ask the psychiatrist for a recommendation

> for a therapist as well, even though she is just turning 10. Has

> anyone else used behavioral therapy with a young child?

>

> My other question is the exposure method. Since we can't expose her

> to vomiting, like you can with something that is dirty with a child

> with germ fears, how is this supposed to work? Is it just exposing

> her to her own thoughts? When I have tried to get her to think about

> vomiting and try to talk through it with her, she acts like she is

> jumping out of her skin, she's so anxious. She will cover her ears or

> run from the room.

>

> I guess this is enough information for now--we'll see if any of this

> sounds familiar to you all.

>

[Guest guest]

This link I found very helpful too..a similar phobia and how they gradually had

the child deal with the fear more...

http://www.worrywisekids.org/case_conference/vomit_phobias_ocd.html--- In

, " domerdaddy " wrote:

>

> Hello! I am new here too and you are NOT alone, although like me you probably

feel very alone! We have 4 kids too and our oldest, an 11-year old daughter,

has a similar OCD fear of vomiting which often causes her not to eat. We cannot

say the words " sick " , " puke " , " vomit " , " barf " etc to our daughter or we get

screaming, running away, furious anger, etc...once on a phone conversation when

I said the word " sick " she threw a book at me and said " YOU KNOW I HATE THAT

WORD! " etc. We've been seeing a counselor for 6 months with no real

improvement. Right now we are waiting to try and get her into a pediatric

psychiatrist who can't see us until June. She can go for days eating almost

nothing if she is afraid something will make her sick. She can eat if she's

confident everyone in the family is well and if it's something she likes to eat

(pizza, Hershey bars, etc). If one of the siblings gets sick...which often

happens in a family with 4 kids...she becomes furious with the sick child,

insists on sleeping on the sofa, and won't go into certain rooms or eat anything

for fear of becoming sick herself. She can still go to school but really hates

it since children often throw up there..the worst was when a little girl threw

up next to her and got a little puke on my daughter's sleeve...she had a panic

attack and had to come home. She avoids certain seats and restrooms at school

(and the upstairs bathroom at home) since someone was once sick there. No amount

of cleaning will convince her to use them. She is very concerned with food

safety and cleanliness...checking expiration dates, refusing to eat with a fork

that has touched the table, never trying any new restaurants, etc. I worry she

is stunting her own growth as she is already much smaller than her 5th grade

classmates. The school counselor has already called us in in response to one of

her " rage attacks " and expressed concern at how thin she is. I'm embarrassed,

upset, can't believe my daughter has all these issues, etc! It is so sad and

overwhelming. And all the time/attention spent on this problem take away from my

other three kids who don't have OCD issues but who also need a lot of time and

attention! I work full time and my husband stays home with the kids. He is very

involved in Boy Scouts and is gone a lot at campouts/meetings which enable him

to escape the situation at home. I feel like I am bearing the brunt of the

worrying, researching OCD, etc. My daughter has many other issues, too...can't

stand to be around babies for fear they will vomit, refuses to go to amusement

parks anymore, etc. This OCD is really taking a toll on me and putting a big

strain on our marriage. The other children see my daughter's rage attacks and

then they learn from the bad example and treat me rudely too with a lot of loud

yelling. I get so tired of it all...I just want a normal family! I worry how

can we go on like this, how will she ever get through high school, will she ever

be happy again, etc.

> But you are NOT alone...it is a very isolating disease and very tough to

explain to people. Hang in there!

>

>

> >

> >

> > I'm new to Yahoo Groups, so I'm trying to navigate around the site.

> > I'll just write a bit about my daughter and see if there is anyone in

> > a similar situation--which I doubt!

> >

> > I really have no idea how to summarize her disorder. It's not as

> > clearcut as hand washing or some of the other rituals I've been

> > reading about. My daughter is the oldest of 4 children and had a

> > sudden onset of OCD when our youngest, a set of twins, were born 2 1/2

> > yrs. ago. She was 7 1/2. While we were dealing with premature twins

> > in the NICU, she started having trouble eating. At first she couldn't

> > eat at school. Then she couldn't eat at the hospital cafeteria. Then

> > she couldn't eat breakfast. Then dinner. She had a hard time trying

> > to explain what was happening to her and why she was having difficulty

> > eating. She would nibble and try really hard. She finally said she

> > was having constant thoughts about throwing up. She was so terrified,

> > she was afraid to eat because she might gag. We sought the advice of

> > our pediatrician, who referred us to a child psychiatrist. She was

> > terrible. We spent 2 mos. having a Dr. tell our child that she

> > couldn't eat because she " secretly hated the new babies and thet's

> > okay. " My daughter is the sweetest thing and this was scary to her.

> > When this wasn't helping, we got a referral to an eating disorder

> > clinic and the psychiatrist there. She diagnosed her as having

> > OCD--her obsessive thoughts being about vomiting and her compulsion to

> > tell me constantly and get reassurance. She was already on Celexa

> > (first psychiatrist), but she was starving so terribly they put her in

> > the hospital as an inpatient and started Zyprexa and a nasal feeding

> > tube. She was refed for a week and then started an intensive

> > outpatient therapy program for 3 weeks with the anorexic teens (where

> > else do you put a 8 yr. old (now) that won't eat?) Well, her

> > diagnosis and reason for not eating was different, but after 3 days,

> > she began to slowly eat. She made fast progress and stayed on the

> > Zyprexa for 3 mos. After taking her off, she remained better for

> > about 6 months and then the thoughts began creeping in again. She had

> > an abrupt change 3 weeks ago where her anxiety became severe and she

> > stopped eating again and could barely drink anything. We began the

> > Zyprexa again and she has improved her eating, but not to a normal

> > level. She said her thoughts are still a constant fear of throwing up

> > and it consumes her. We switched her to Prozac, and she's still on

> > the Zyprexa. Since it hasn't had the same " thought control " effect as

> > last time, I started reading more and am trying to become more

> > familiar with OCD.

> >

> > This is difficult to deal with as a family, obviously. She must ask

> > me 100 times a day if she's sick, in a variety of ways, for

> > reassurance. Of course, every meal is an issue as well because it's

> > difficult for her to feel full (she may vomit!), so she doesn't take

> > in many calories, or just nibbles. Since this has basically taken

> > over our lives, I'm going to ask the psychiatrist for a recommendation

> > for a therapist as well, even though she is just turning 10. Has

> > anyone else used behavioral therapy with a young child?

> >

> > My other question is the exposure method. Since we can't expose her

> > to vomiting, like you can with something that is dirty with a child

> > with germ fears, how is this supposed to work? Is it just exposing

> > her to her own thoughts? When I have tried to get her to think about

> > vomiting and try to talk through it with her, she acts like she is

> > jumping out of her skin, she's so anxious. She will cover her ears or

> > run from the room.

> >

> > I guess this is enough information for now--we'll see if any of this

> > sounds familiar to you all.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Welcome to the group, Shauna.

It's all so overwhelming at first, but becoming educated to what you are dealing

with can help tremendously. It gives you power to know what you are dealing

with. There are some really great books out there, written by experts of the

disorder. A few of our favorites are. . .

What to do when your Child has Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder by Aureen

Pinto Wagner Ph.D.

Freeing Your Child from Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder by Tamar E. Chansky

Talking Back to OCD by March

Dr. Wagner's and Tamar Chansky's books, both have a wealth of information. And

March's book walks you through CBT (cognitive behavioral therapy) and ERP

(exposure and response prevention). That is the only evidence based treatment,

proven to help with OCD. So, if your therapist does not use it, or know how to

use it(most importantly, the ERP part), then you need to find one that does.

Many therapists use CBT, but it has to be specific to OCD, since CBT can be used

for other things too. A therapist who specializes in the treatment of OCD can

be hard to find. A good place to start is the OCFoundation.org. They have

therapists listed there by state. Be prepared to interview them though, to be

sure they know and understand how to treat OCD. Anyone can list there and we

found a few in our state that didn't know what they were doing, on that list.

But, our son's current therapist is also there and helped our son so much, to

get his life back.

From the books I've read (specifically Tamar Chansky's book), it is not at all

uncommon for children to have obsessive thoughts that are sexual in nature.

Even young kids. Approximately 25% of the kids with OCD, have sexual obsessive

thoughts. But, remember, it is no different than other forms of OCD in that it

is just OCD, nothing more. . The brain is having a " brain hiccup " repeating

thoughts that are disturbing to them. They will go to great lengths to make the

thoughts stop, with any OCD thoughts, because it is so disturbing and sometimes

even disgusting to them, which causes them anxiety. I think all people have the

inclination to go to the " what if " realm when it comes to things like that,

worrying about why. It's hard to say how she might even have a clue about

sexual things at such a young age, but I would venture to guess that with the

way our culture is inundated with sexual images, shows, music, etc., it's hard

to not have some knowledge even at a young age, despite all the protection a

parent can provide. And she might now know the actual mechanics of it, she

might just have a bit a knowledge that is enough to make her upset by it.

So, take a deep breath, Mom. ((((hugs)))) We all know the panic that having a

child with OCD can illicit. You are not alone anymore. We've all been there,

and we get it. So, feel free to use the group to vent when needed, get hugs and

support when you are having a bad day, and ask questions on anything you don't

understand.

Just some quick thoughts tonight. . Have to run (family waiting on me to watch a

movie).

So glad you found us and are here, Shauna. )

BJ

[Guest guest]

Okay. . . Meant to say she might NOT know the actual mechanics of it!

Oops. .big difference in the meaning of what I was trying to say.

BJ

>

> Welcome to the group, Shauna.

>

> It's all so overwhelming at first, but becoming educated to what you are

dealing with can help tremendously. It gives you power to know what you are

dealing with. There are some really great books out there, written by experts

of the disorder. A few of our favorites are. . .

>

>

> What to do when your Child has Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder by Aureen

> Pinto Wagner Ph.D.

>

> Freeing Your Child from Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder by Tamar E. Chansky

>

> Talking Back to OCD by March

>

>

>

>

> Dr. Wagner's and Tamar Chansky's books, both have a wealth of information.

And March's book walks you through CBT (cognitive behavioral therapy) and

ERP (exposure and response prevention). That is the only evidence based

treatment, proven to help with OCD. So, if your therapist does not use it, or

know how to use it(most importantly, the ERP part), then you need to find one

that does. Many therapists use CBT, but it has to be specific to OCD, since CBT

can be used for other things too. A therapist who specializes in the treatment

of OCD can be hard to find. A good place to start is the OCFoundation.org.

They have therapists listed there by state. Be prepared to interview them

though, to be sure they know and understand how to treat OCD. Anyone can list

there and we found a few in our state that didn't know what they were doing, on

that list. But, our son's current therapist is also there and helped our son so

much, to get his life back.

>

> From the books I've read (specifically Tamar Chansky's book), it is not at all

uncommon for children to have obsessive thoughts that are sexual in nature.

Even young kids. Approximately 25% of the kids with OCD, have sexual obsessive

thoughts. But, remember, it is no different than other forms of OCD in that it

is just OCD, nothing more. . The brain is having a " brain hiccup " repeating

thoughts that are disturbing to them. They will go to great lengths to make the

thoughts stop, with any OCD thoughts, because it is so disturbing and sometimes

even disgusting to them, which causes them anxiety. I think all people have the

inclination to go to the " what if " realm when it comes to things like that,

worrying about why. It's hard to say how she might even have a clue about

sexual things at such a young age, but I would venture to guess that with the

way our culture is inundated with sexual images, shows, music, etc., it's hard

to not have some knowledge even at a young age, despite all the protection a

parent can provide. And she might now know the actual mechanics of it, she

might just have a bit a knowledge that is enough to make her upset by it.

>

> So, take a deep breath, Mom. ((((hugs)))) We all know the panic that having

a child with OCD can illicit. You are not alone anymore. We've all been there,

and we get it. So, feel free to use the group to vent when needed, get hugs and

support when you are having a bad day, and ask questions on anything you don't

understand.

>

> Just some quick thoughts tonight. . Have to run (family waiting on me to watch

a movie).

>

> So glad you found us and are here, Shauna. )

>

> BJ

>

[Guest guest]

Hi. Welcome to the group.

You say you've been seeing a counselor for 6 months, but aren't having any real

improvement. Is the counselor using CBT (cognitive behavioral therapy) and ERP

(exposure and response prevention) therapy?

We spent many years seeing therapists that didn't help our son at all, trying

many different types of techniques. We had not heard of CBT/ERP, so went along

like that for years, with no improvement. Once we found a therapist that used

CBT/ERP and understood OCD, our son improved for the first time in his life.

Due to the right therapy and meds, he went from being nonfunctional to having a

relatively normal life. .Living the best life he can.

It is very scary when they don't eat due to OCD. Is the doctor concerned that

she sometimes goes days with very little food? I'm glad you are seeing a

pediatric psychiatrist in June. I hope it is early June, and they can help you

get that turned around soon.

It is hard on the whole family when someone has OCD. I can relate to your

saying it affects everyone. Once our son stabilized, things improved for our

family.

There are others in here who've had vomiting problems with their kids.

Hopefully they will see your post and be able to share some things they've tried

that have helped.

Glad you found us and are here.

BJ

[Guest guest]

once lost 6lbs in a week when he refused to eat due to his vomiting

fears. He only weighed 65 lbs at the time. We then just gave him whatever he

would eat and offered food throughout the day. You might try those shakes (or

make some) - ensure ect.

We also gave him Ativan before meals just for a short while (till meds helped).

Bonnie

>

> Hi. Welcome to the group.

>

> You say you've been seeing a counselor for 6 months, but aren't having any

real improvement. Is the counselor using CBT (cognitive behavioral therapy) and

ERP (exposure and response prevention) therapy?

>

> We spent many years seeing therapists that didn't help our son at all, trying

many different types of techniques. We had not heard of CBT/ERP, so went along

like that for years, with no improvement. Once we found a therapist that used

CBT/ERP and understood OCD, our son improved for the first time in his life.

Due to the right therapy and meds, he went from being nonfunctional to having a

relatively normal life. .Living the best life he can.

>

> It is very scary when they don't eat due to OCD. Is the doctor concerned that

she sometimes goes days with very little food? I'm glad you are seeing a

pediatric psychiatrist in June. I hope it is early June, and they can help you

get that turned around soon.

>

> It is hard on the whole family when someone has OCD. I can relate to your

saying it affects everyone. Once our son stabilized, things improved for our

family.

>

> There are others in here who've had vomiting problems with their kids.

Hopefully they will see your post and be able to share some things they've tried

that have helped.

>

> Glad you found us and are here.

>

> BJ

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Shauna, welcome! You're not the first parent here with a child around your

daughter's age, or younger, to start having these thoughts. Have you found a

therapist yet for her that can help treat?

There are some good books for kids about OCD, reading some with her may help her

feel better, understand why she is having these thoughts. (You too!)

Here are a couple links to some OCD info from the Chiago OCD organization:

http://www.ocdchicago.org/index.php/experts-perspectives/article/what_happened_t\

o_my_child_how_to_manage_and_overcome_bad_thought_ocd/

--If above link doesn't copy/paste well, the article is listed on this page

under " parents and children " :

http://www.ocdchicago.org/index.php/experts-perspectives/

Also this is on the parents role:

http://www.ocdchicago.org/index.php/parents/child/the-parents-role-in-ocd-treatm\

ent-and-recovery/

I can't add much to what everyone else has replied to you but wanted to say

" welcome! " This group has been my best support for OCD!

single mom, 3 sons

, 20, with OCD, dysgraphia, Aspergers

>

> I just found this support group and I'm hoping it will make me feel not so

alone. My six year old daughter was just diagnosed with OCD. It has been nice

to have a name to what is going on and to realize it wasn't my parenting, but it

is tough!! My daughter has had different obsessions but the most recent one (the

last month) is more

[Guest guest]

I was thinking of Ensure too, Bonnie. I went through a period of illness where

I couldn't eat much and lost 30 pounds (fortunately, I could afford to lose it),

but lived off of Ensure for a while. It was a blessing. It tasted good too.

BJ

> >

> > Hi. Welcome to the group.

> >

> > You say you've been seeing a counselor for 6 months, but aren't having any

real improvement. Is the counselor using CBT (cognitive behavioral therapy) and

ERP (exposure and response prevention) therapy?

> >

> > We spent many years seeing therapists that didn't help our son at all,

trying many different types of techniques. We had not heard of CBT/ERP, so went

along like that for years, with no improvement. Once we found a therapist that

used CBT/ERP and understood OCD, our son improved for the first time in his

life. Due to the right therapy and meds, he went from being nonfunctional to

having a relatively normal life. .Living the best life he can.

> >

> > It is very scary when they don't eat due to OCD. Is the doctor concerned

that she sometimes goes days with very little food? I'm glad you are seeing a

pediatric psychiatrist in June. I hope it is early June, and they can help you

get that turned around soon.

> >

> > It is hard on the whole family when someone has OCD. I can relate to your

saying it affects everyone. Once our son stabilized, things improved for our

family.

> >

> > There are others in here who've had vomiting problems with their kids.

Hopefully they will see your post and be able to share some things they've tried

that have helped.

> >

> > Glad you found us and are here.

> >

> > BJ

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you very much for the kind replies. I really appreciate them and am so

happy to have found some folks who truly understand!

> > >

> > > Hi. Welcome to the group.

> > >

> > > You say you've been seeing a counselor for 6 months, but aren't having any

real improvement. Is the counselor using CBT (cognitive behavioral therapy) and

ERP (exposure and response prevention) therapy?

> > >

> > > We spent many years seeing therapists that didn't help our son at all,

trying many different types of techniques. We had not heard of CBT/ERP, so went

along like that for years, with no improvement. Once we found a therapist that

used CBT/ERP and understood OCD, our son improved for the first time in his

life. Due to the right therapy and meds, he went from being nonfunctional to

having a relatively normal life. .Living the best life he can.

> > >

> > > It is very scary when they don't eat due to OCD. Is the doctor concerned

that she sometimes goes days with very little food? I'm glad you are seeing a

pediatric psychiatrist in June. I hope it is early June, and they can help you

get that turned around soon.

> > >

> > > It is hard on the whole family when someone has OCD. I can relate to your

saying it affects everyone. Once our son stabilized, things improved for our

family.

> > >

> > > There are others in here who've had vomiting problems with their kids.

Hopefully they will see your post and be able to share some things they've tried

that have helped.

> > >

> > > Glad you found us and are here.

> > >

> > > BJ

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi everyone,

My name is Tatiana and I am an IBCLC in Arizona. I certified last summer and am slowly beginning to explore private practice. I have three young children (two boys and my first baby girl who was born 8 weeks ago), so don't see myself taking on too many clients right now, but I am getting referrals from my midwife and others who know me in the community. I am also a La Leche League Leader and love volunteering, but feel a bit lost making the transition from volunteer to paid professional. I found out about this group from another list I am on for LLLL/IBCLC's and am looking forward to networking and learning from others on the same journey. In addition to my breastfeeding support experience, I am also trained as a doula and childbirth educator, though I am not pursuing any clients in those areas right now. My passion is helping mothers and babies at all ages and stages, and I am always eager for more knowledge.

Thank you for letting me introduce myself!

Tatiana