Re: Tianeptine instead of Wellbutrin?

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Hi everyone. I haven't posted here in a while. No big improvements

for me, although if I increase the dosage of Stablon, I do get a brief

increase in libido the following day, but that's it. I think Stablon

has increased the intensity of orgasm, which is good. I'm going to

get some blood drawn and test for prolactin, testosterone, etc.

What exactly should I test for? I'm not sure what tests I should ask

my doctor to order for me.

I was thinking of checking thyroid function too just to be sure since

hypothyroidism can lower libido.

I did more reading about Stablon and found a 2004 article written by

an expert who used to review hundreds of drugs for the FDA. He said

that Stablon does _increase_ dopamine in the nucleus accumbens and

cortex. He believes that this effect on dopamine is the real reason

for Stablon's antidepressant effect.

The restoration of gene expression (by Stablon) in the hippocampus,

thus restoring hippocampal volume, was also proven in another study.

This is based on the hippocampal theory of depression, where long-term

stress causes the hippocampus to atrophy (shrink) and then depressive

symptomology sets in.

Either way though, for sexual dysfunction, Stablon won't cause harm,

but it doesn't seem to cure SSRI-related sexual dysfunction either

from what I've read. http://www.tianeptine.com

How about pramipexole (Mirapex)?

I also have amineptine (Survector), a dopamine reuptake inhibitor. It

gives me panic attacks because of its mild stimulant effect, but it is

pro-sexual. I wasn't able to try it for very long because of the

panic attacks. I think if you don't have panic disorder, you should

be fine. http://www.amineptine.com

If anyone wants to give Survector a try, email me. Thanks. :-)

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> It seems like Wellbutrin (in combination with other drugs) is a

> promising option. I've got a problem, though: SRRIs & St. 's Wort

> have badly messed with my ears. The only antidepressant I've been on

> so far that hasn't interfered with my hearing is Anafranil (about the

> only good thing it did). Wikipedia says that a possible side-effect of

> Wellbutrin is tinnitus. I haven't tried it, but odds are it won't work.

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> Here's my question: Might Tianeptin (Stablon) have an effect similar

> to Wellbutrin? Its mechanism - serotonin reuptake enhancing - is the

> opposite of SSRIs, right? I guess it won't work, because the crucial

> thing isn't serotonin but dopamine. I'm just hoping I might get around

> taking Wellbutrin.

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> What do you guys think?

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