Guest guest Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 State laws say many things. But IEP's can trump state laws. That's why we managed to get the " I " in IEP!!! And I know that you were passing info, so I am only twitting you. Sara - Choose to make lemonade, not complain about the lemons. > >Reply-To: >To: >Subject: Re: >Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 20:26:40 -0800 (PST) > >Hi Sara, > I don't feel that keeping shoes off are a big deal either but only if >they keep the socks on. Ct state laws prohibit students from being >barefoot.I'm not certain what other states haves this law other than >Hawaii. I know the students that I work with whip the socks off if they do >not have shoes on. The school is very liberal with accomodations and >walking around in slippers, socks etc wouldn't even be an issue. Their >motto is whatever works but barefoot is not. I suppose if it were written >into an IEP it could be an exception to the law. > Charlyne > Mom to Zeb 14 DS/OCD/ASD? > > >sara cohen wrote: > Well, - I am closer to your view than some other peole who >wrote to >you. I say, if the kid doesn't want shoes on, then take the blasted things >off!! They can be worn to and from school, and I will buy dirt colored >socks! As to nails, I cut nails weekly. Elie has had a 24 " rule in his IEp >since he was 5 and punch a teacher in the face. people need to watch their >distance and not worry about the small stuff. What is the big deal with >shoes??? Unless of course there are foot braces or need for other orthotic >correction????? > >Sara - Choose to make lemonade, not complain about the lemons. > > > > >Reply-To: > >To: > >Subject: Re: Vent about teacher > >Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 19:54:48 -0800 (PST) > > > >Hi , > > Vent away! It's very frustrated to advocate for our kids in the sped > >world. Teachers often forget that we are the experts of our children. If > >you had asked to have the conference with the psychologist in an IEP > >meeting, the teacher would have been less apt to refuse. You have a right > >to ask to have a daily communication sheet, 1-1 para, work modified > >appropriately etc. Because you now have documentation that Janie is not > >making progress clearly you can state in an IEP meeting that her needs >are > >not being met. You could request an independent educational consultant >with > >expertise in autism evaluate and observe her school program and help the > >team to design a program that would meet her needs. If you are unable to > >attend An IEP meeting because of an illness or disability you do have the > >right to ask for a teleconference or speaker phone meeting. > > > > I work at an autism school and I dodge shoes and boots on a daily basis. > >It is not uncommon for a teacher to request a parent to send the student >to > >school with footwear that are not too easy to remove. I can't tell you >how > >much time I spend during the day putting shoes back on while carefully >not > >bending my head so that my hair is not grabbed and taking care not to get > >scratched. The teachers request that all students that scratch have their > >nails cut very often. We happen to have a few nurses that will cut the > >students nails if it becomes a problem. I work with a very good teacher > >that had her faced gouged by a student last week. The student was happy >and > >smiling one moment and in a second she lunged at the teacher. It happens > >all the time and is just part of the job. I don't think the teacher's > >request was unreasonable. > > Charlyne > > Mom to Zeb 14 DS/OCD/ASD? > > > >mzdaisee47 wrote: > > It's my turn to vent about a teacher. > >Janie's teacher sent home a note today telling me to cut her > >fingernails because instead of pinching she scratched today. Well, #1 > >she pinches with her thumb and pointer, #2 she scratches with all 4 > >fingers, and #3 her nails were cut about 4 days ago and not that > >long. It is not that easy to get her to sit still to cut them either. > >Also, the note said not to let her wear her boots to school because > >she takes them off and throws them too easily. She can get ANY shoes > >off fast and throw them including high tops with the laces double > >knotted in the back. Not only that, but her report card shows that > >she has made zero progress this year. In K-1 she progressed slowly, > >but steadily both years with a different teacher. In our district her > >current teacher has all the sped kids in her age group. This teacher > >has been cold since I first met her last spring and has failed to > >comply with requests for feedback throughout the year. (Thanks to the > >person who gave me the link for the forms). She ignored Janie's > >psychologist's offer to have a teleconference to discuss Janie's > >needs and how to deal with her aggression. > >I started to gather stuff before Christmas to request an IEP meeting, > >but put it off until now due to my surgery. Now I am back at it and > >will turn in my request tomorrow since I plan to meet with the > >principal about today's note. Janie needs a 1-on-1 aide, she needs to > >be given work appropriate for her level (not 2nd grade level), I need > >written documentation regarding her behavior issues, I need to see > >her goals being met or at least progress being made toward them. I am > >not self disciplined enough to home school her and do not want > >someone to come to our house to teach her because she needs to learn > >appropriate social behaviors. I have to find out what options are > >available in our area. We liked Janie's previous teacher so well I > >would gladly send her back to the previous school if I could. > >Tomorrow I also plan to call DSHS and find out if we have special ed > >advocates here and how to get one for Janie. You can tell I am angry > >and a bit frazzled right now. Thanks for listening! > > P. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 If she'll wear those slipper socks (like they give out in hospitals) or a slipper, then she wouldn't be " barefoot " > State laws say many things. But IEP's can trump state laws. That's why > we > managed to get the " I " in IEP!!! > > And I know that you were passing info, so I am only twitting you. > > Sara - Choose to make lemonade, not complain about the lemons. > > > > >Reply-To: > >To: > >Subject: Re: > >Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 20:26:40 -0800 (PST) > > > >Hi Sara, > > I don't feel that keeping shoes off are a big deal either but only > if > >they keep the socks on. Ct state laws prohibit students from being > >barefoot.I'm not certain what other states haves this law other than > >Hawaii. I know the students that I work with whip the socks off if > they do > >not have shoes on. The school is very liberal with accomodations and > >walking around in slippers, socks etc wouldn't even be an issue. > Their > >motto is whatever works but barefoot is not. I suppose if it were > written > >into an IEP it could be an exception to the law. > > Charlyne > > Mom to Zeb 14 DS/OCD/ASD? > > > > > >sara cohen wrote: > > Well, - I am closer to your view than some other peole who > >wrote to > >you. I say, if the kid doesn't want shoes on, then take the blasted > things > >off!! They can be worn to and from school, and I will buy dirt > colored > >socks! As to nails, I cut nails weekly. Elie has had a 24 " rule in > his IEp > >since he was 5 and punch a teacher in the face. people need to watch > their > >distance and not worry about the small stuff. What is the big deal > with > >shoes??? Unless of course there are foot braces or need for other > orthotic > >correction????? > > > >Sara - Choose to make lemonade, not complain about the lemons. > > > > > > > >Reply-To: > > >To: > > >Subject: Re: Vent about teacher > > >Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 19:54:48 -0800 (PST) > > > > > >Hi , > > > Vent away! It's very frustrated to advocate for our kids in the > sped > > >world. Teachers often forget that we are the experts of our > children. If > > >you had asked to have the conference with the psychologist in an > IEP > > >meeting, the teacher would have been less apt to refuse. You have > a right > > >to ask to have a daily communication sheet, 1-1 para, work modified > > >appropriately etc. Because you now have documentation that Janie > is not > > >making progress clearly you can state in an IEP meeting that her > needs > >are > > >not being met. You could request an independent educational > consultant > >with > > >expertise in autism evaluate and observe her school program and > help the > > >team to design a program that would meet her needs. If you are > unable to > > >attend An IEP meeting because of an illness or disability you do > have the > > >right to ask for a teleconference or speaker phone meeting. > > > > > > I work at an autism school and I dodge shoes and boots on a daily > basis. > > >It is not uncommon for a teacher to request a parent to send the > student > >to > > >school with footwear that are not too easy to remove. I can't tell > you > >how > > >much time I spend during the day putting shoes back on while > carefully > >not > > >bending my head so that my hair is not grabbed and taking care not > to get > > >scratched. The teachers request that all students that scratch > have their > > >nails cut very often. We happen to have a few nurses that will cut > the > > >students nails if it becomes a problem. I work with a very good > teacher > > >that had her faced gouged by a student last week. The student was > happy > >and > > >smiling one moment and in a second she lunged at the teacher. It > happens > > >all the time and is just part of the job. I don't think the > teacher's > > >request was unreasonable. > > > Charlyne > > > Mom to Zeb 14 DS/OCD/ASD? > > > > > >mzdaisee47 wrote: > > > It's my turn to vent about a teacher. > > >Janie's teacher sent home a note today telling me to cut her > > >fingernails because instead of pinching she scratched today. Well, > #1 > > >she pinches with her thumb and pointer, #2 she scratches with all 4 > > >fingers, and #3 her nails were cut about 4 days ago and not that > > >long. It is not that easy to get her to sit still to cut them > either. > > >Also, the note said not to let her wear her boots to school because > > >she takes them off and throws them too easily. She can get ANY > shoes > > >off fast and throw them including high tops with the laces double > > >knotted in the back. Not only that, but her report card shows that > > >she has made zero progress this year. In K-1 she progressed slowly, > > >but steadily both years with a different teacher. In our district > her > > >current teacher has all the sped kids in her age group. This > teacher > > >has been cold since I first met her last spring and has failed to > > >comply with requests for feedback throughout the year. (Thanks to > the > > >person who gave me the link for the forms). She ignored Janie's > > >psychologist's offer to have a teleconference to discuss Janie's > > >needs and how to deal with her aggression. > > >I started to gather stuff before Christmas to request an IEP > meeting, > > >but put it off until now due to my surgery. Now I am back at it and > > >will turn in my request tomorrow since I plan to meet with the > > >principal about today's note. Janie needs a 1-on-1 aide, she needs > to > > >be given work appropriate for her level (not 2nd grade level), I > need > > >written documentation regarding her behavior issues, I need to see > > >her goals being met or at least progress being made toward them. I > am > > >not self disciplined enough to home school her and do not want > > >someone to come to our house to teach her because she needs to > learn > > >appropriate social behaviors. I have to find out what options are > > >available in our area. We liked Janie's previous teacher so well I > > >would gladly send her back to the previous school if I could. > > >Tomorrow I also plan to call DSHS and find out if we have special > ed > > >advocates here and how to get one for Janie. You can tell I am > angry > > >and a bit frazzled right now. Thanks for listening! > > > P. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 Yes, if you can have that placed in the IEP it works. Charlyne JJM wrote: If she'll wear those slipper socks (like they give out in hospitals) or a slipper, then she wouldn't be " barefoot " > State laws say many things. But IEP's can trump state laws. That's why > we > managed to get the " I " in IEP!!! > > And I know that you were passing info, so I am only twitting you. > > Sara - Choose to make lemonade, not complain about the lemons. > > > > >Reply-To: > >To: > >Subject: Re: > >Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 20:26:40 -0800 (PST) > > > >Hi Sara, > > I don't feel that keeping shoes off are a big deal either but only > if > >they keep the socks on. Ct state laws prohibit students from being > >barefoot.I'm not certain what other states haves this law other than > >Hawaii. I know the students that I work with whip the socks off if > they do > >not have shoes on. The school is very liberal with accomodations and > >walking around in slippers, socks etc wouldn't even be an issue. > Their > >motto is whatever works but barefoot is not. I suppose if it were > written > >into an IEP it could be an exception to the law. > > Charlyne > > Mom to Zeb 14 DS/OCD/ASD? > > > > > >sara cohen wrote: > > Well, - I am closer to your view than some other peole who > >wrote to > >you. I say, if the kid doesn't want shoes on, then take the blasted > things > >off!! They can be worn to and from school, and I will buy dirt > colored > >socks! As to nails, I cut nails weekly. Elie has had a 24 " rule in > his IEp > >since he was 5 and punch a teacher in the face. people need to watch > their > >distance and not worry about the small stuff. What is the big deal > with > >shoes??? Unless of course there are foot braces or need for other > orthotic > >correction????? > > > >Sara - Choose to make lemonade, not complain about the lemons. > > > > > > > >Reply-To: > > >To: > > >Subject: Re: Vent about teacher > > >Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 19:54:48 -0800 (PST) > > > > > >Hi , > > > Vent away! It's very frustrated to advocate for our kids in the > sped > > >world. Teachers often forget that we are the experts of our > children. If > > >you had asked to have the conference with the psychologist in an > IEP > > >meeting, the teacher would have been less apt to refuse. You have > a right > > >to ask to have a daily communication sheet, 1-1 para, work modified > > >appropriately etc. Because you now have documentation that Janie > is not > > >making progress clearly you can state in an IEP meeting that her > needs > >are > > >not being met. You could request an independent educational > consultant > >with > > >expertise in autism evaluate and observe her school program and > help the > > >team to design a program that would meet her needs. If you are > unable to > > >attend An IEP meeting because of an illness or disability you do > have the > > >right to ask for a teleconference or speaker phone meeting. > > > > > > I work at an autism school and I dodge shoes and boots on a daily > basis. > > >It is not uncommon for a teacher to request a parent to send the > student > >to > > >school with footwear that are not too easy to remove. I can't tell > you > >how > > >much time I spend during the day putting shoes back on while > carefully > >not > > >bending my head so that my hair is not grabbed and taking care not > to get > > >scratched. The teachers request that all students that scratch > have their > > >nails cut very often. We happen to have a few nurses that will cut > the > > >students nails if it becomes a problem. I work with a very good > teacher > > >that had her faced gouged by a student last week. The student was > happy > >and > > >smiling one moment and in a second she lunged at the teacher. It > happens > > >all the time and is just part of the job. I don't think the > teacher's > > >request was unreasonable. > > > Charlyne > > > Mom to Zeb 14 DS/OCD/ASD? > > > > > >mzdaisee47 wrote: > > > It's my turn to vent about a teacher. > > >Janie's teacher sent home a note today telling me to cut her > > >fingernails because instead of pinching she scratched today. Well, > #1 > > >she pinches with her thumb and pointer, #2 she scratches with all 4 > > >fingers, and #3 her nails were cut about 4 days ago and not that > > >long. It is not that easy to get her to sit still to cut them > either. > > >Also, the note said not to let her wear her boots to school because > > >she takes them off and throws them too easily. She can get ANY > shoes > > >off fast and throw them including high tops with the laces double > > >knotted in the back. Not only that, but her report card shows that > > >she has made zero progress this year. In K-1 she progressed slowly, > > >but steadily both years with a different teacher. In our district > her > > >current teacher has all the sped kids in her age group. This > teacher > > >has been cold since I first met her last spring and has failed to > > >comply with requests for feedback throughout the year. (Thanks to > the > > >person who gave me the link for the forms). She ignored Janie's > > >psychologist's offer to have a teleconference to discuss Janie's > > >needs and how to deal with her aggression. > > >I started to gather stuff before Christmas to request an IEP > meeting, > > >but put it off until now due to my surgery. Now I am back at it and > > >will turn in my request tomorrow since I plan to meet with the > > >principal about today's note. Janie needs a 1-on-1 aide, she needs > to > > >be given work appropriate for her level (not 2nd grade level), I > need > > >written documentation regarding her behavior issues, I need to see > > >her goals being met or at least progress being made toward them. I > am > > >not self disciplined enough to home school her and do not want > > >someone to come to our house to teach her because she needs to > learn > > >appropriate social behaviors. I have to find out what options are > > >available in our area. We liked Janie's previous teacher so well I > > >would gladly send her back to the previous school if I could. > > >Tomorrow I also plan to call DSHS and find out if we have special > ed > > >advocates here and how to get one for Janie. You can tell I am > angry > > >and a bit frazzled right now. Thanks for listening! > > > P. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 Hi Sara, Yes your right. You have some leverage with the IEP. I don't mind if twit me,LOL. Charlyne Mom to Zeb DS/OCD/ASD? sara cohen wrote: State laws say many things. But IEP's can trump state laws. That's why we managed to get the " I " in IEP!!! And I know that you were passing info, so I am only twitting you. Sara - Choose to make lemonade, not complain about the lemons. > >Reply-To: >To: >Subject: Re: >Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 20:26:40 -0800 (PST) > >Hi Sara, > I don't feel that keeping shoes off are a big deal either but only if >they keep the socks on. Ct state laws prohibit students from being >barefoot.I'm not certain what other states haves this law other than >Hawaii. I know the students that I work with whip the socks off if they do >not have shoes on. The school is very liberal with accomodations and >walking around in slippers, socks etc wouldn't even be an issue. Their >motto is whatever works but barefoot is not. I suppose if it were written >into an IEP it could be an exception to the law. > Charlyne > Mom to Zeb 14 DS/OCD/ASD? > > >sara cohen wrote: > Well, - I am closer to your view than some other peole who >wrote to >you. I say, if the kid doesn't want shoes on, then take the blasted things >off!! They can be worn to and from school, and I will buy dirt colored >socks! As to nails, I cut nails weekly. Elie has had a 24 " rule in his IEp >since he was 5 and punch a teacher in the face. people need to watch their >distance and not worry about the small stuff. What is the big deal with >shoes??? Unless of course there are foot braces or need for other orthotic >correction????? > >Sara - Choose to make lemonade, not complain about the lemons. > > > > >Reply-To: > >To: > >Subject: Re: Vent about teacher > >Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 19:54:48 -0800 (PST) > > > >Hi , > > Vent away! It's very frustrated to advocate for our kids in the sped > >world. Teachers often forget that we are the experts of our children. If > >you had asked to have the conference with the psychologist in an IEP > >meeting, the teacher would have been less apt to refuse. You have a right > >to ask to have a daily communication sheet, 1-1 para, work modified > >appropriately etc. Because you now have documentation that Janie is not > >making progress clearly you can state in an IEP meeting that her needs >are > >not being met. You could request an independent educational consultant >with > >expertise in autism evaluate and observe her school program and help the > >team to design a program that would meet her needs. If you are unable to > >attend An IEP meeting because of an illness or disability you do have the > >right to ask for a teleconference or speaker phone meeting. > > > > I work at an autism school and I dodge shoes and boots on a daily basis. > >It is not uncommon for a teacher to request a parent to send the student >to > >school with footwear that are not too easy to remove. I can't tell you >how > >much time I spend during the day putting shoes back on while carefully >not > >bending my head so that my hair is not grabbed and taking care not to get > >scratched. The teachers request that all students that scratch have their > >nails cut very often. We happen to have a few nurses that will cut the > >students nails if it becomes a problem. I work with a very good teacher > >that had her faced gouged by a student last week. The student was happy >and > >smiling one moment and in a second she lunged at the teacher. It happens > >all the time and is just part of the job. I don't think the teacher's > >request was unreasonable. > > Charlyne > > Mom to Zeb 14 DS/OCD/ASD? > > > >mzdaisee47 wrote: > > It's my turn to vent about a teacher. > >Janie's teacher sent home a note today telling me to cut her > >fingernails because instead of pinching she scratched today. Well, #1 > >she pinches with her thumb and pointer, #2 she scratches with all 4 > >fingers, and #3 her nails were cut about 4 days ago and not that > >long. It is not that easy to get her to sit still to cut them either. > >Also, the note said not to let her wear her boots to school because > >she takes them off and throws them too easily. She can get ANY shoes > >off fast and throw them including high tops with the laces double > >knotted in the back. Not only that, but her report card shows that > >she has made zero progress this year. In K-1 she progressed slowly, > >but steadily both years with a different teacher. In our district her > >current teacher has all the sped kids in her age group. This teacher > >has been cold since I first met her last spring and has failed to > >comply with requests for feedback throughout the year. (Thanks to the > >person who gave me the link for the forms). She ignored Janie's > >psychologist's offer to have a teleconference to discuss Janie's > >needs and how to deal with her aggression. > >I started to gather stuff before Christmas to request an IEP meeting, > >but put it off until now due to my surgery. Now I am back at it and > >will turn in my request tomorrow since I plan to meet with the > >principal about today's note. Janie needs a 1-on-1 aide, she needs to > >be given work appropriate for her level (not 2nd grade level), I need > >written documentation regarding her behavior issues, I need to see > >her goals being met or at least progress being made toward them. I am > >not self disciplined enough to home school her and do not want > >someone to come to our house to teach her because she needs to learn > >appropriate social behaviors. I have to find out what options are > >available in our area. We liked Janie's previous teacher so well I > >would gladly send her back to the previous school if I could. > >Tomorrow I also plan to call DSHS and find out if we have special ed > >advocates here and how to get one for Janie. You can tell I am angry > >and a bit frazzled right now. Thanks for listening! > > P. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 We have had some crazy things in IEP's over the years: The 24 " rule- all instruction is to be given from a distance of 24 " Intermediate GOAL: Elie will not strike anyone in the face during classroom instruction. Final Goal: Elie will not attempt to strike anyone in the face but will use words to express disatisfaction. Shoes in school rule: shoes will be removed upon entering the classroom and put in cubbie. Intermediate Goal: Elie will remove shoes on direction without throwing them or kicking out at staff. Final Goal: Will wear shoes without complaint in school . Understand that these were the start and end with MANY steps in between. But to this day we haave the 24 " rule in his IEP. And he hasn't hit anyone in the face in almost 3 years. I won't even list all the " Feces " regulations from middle school. That is just too gross to live with. > >Reply-To: >To: >Subject: Re: Charlyne >Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 17:31:21 -0800 (PST) > >Hi Sara, > Yes your right. You have some leverage with the IEP. I don't mind if >twit me,LOL. > Charlyne > Mom to Zeb DS/OCD/ASD? > >sara cohen wrote: > State laws say many things. But IEP's can trump state laws. >That's why we >managed to get the " I " in IEP!!! > >And I know that you were passing info, so I am only twitting you. > >Sara - Choose to make lemonade, not complain about the lemons. > > > > >Reply-To: > >To: > >Subject: Re: > >Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 20:26:40 -0800 (PST) > > > >Hi Sara, > > I don't feel that keeping shoes off are a big deal either but only if > >they keep the socks on. Ct state laws prohibit students from being > >barefoot.I'm not certain what other states haves this law other than > >Hawaii. I know the students that I work with whip the socks off if they >do > >not have shoes on. The school is very liberal with accomodations and > >walking around in slippers, socks etc wouldn't even be an issue. Their > >motto is whatever works but barefoot is not. I suppose if it were written > >into an IEP it could be an exception to the law. > > Charlyne > > Mom to Zeb 14 DS/OCD/ASD? > > > > > >sara cohen wrote: > > Well, - I am closer to your view than some other peole who > >wrote to > >you. I say, if the kid doesn't want shoes on, then take the blasted >things > >off!! They can be worn to and from school, and I will buy dirt colored > >socks! As to nails, I cut nails weekly. Elie has had a 24 " rule in his >IEp > >since he was 5 and punch a teacher in the face. people need to watch >their > >distance and not worry about the small stuff. What is the big deal with > >shoes??? Unless of course there are foot braces or need for other >orthotic > >correction????? > > > >Sara - Choose to make lemonade, not complain about the lemons. > > > > > > > >Reply-To: > > >To: > > >Subject: Re: Vent about teacher > > >Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 19:54:48 -0800 (PST) > > > > > >Hi , > > > Vent away! It's very frustrated to advocate for our kids in the sped > > >world. Teachers often forget that we are the experts of our children. >If > > >you had asked to have the conference with the psychologist in an IEP > > >meeting, the teacher would have been less apt to refuse. You have a >right > > >to ask to have a daily communication sheet, 1-1 para, work modified > > >appropriately etc. Because you now have documentation that Janie is not > > >making progress clearly you can state in an IEP meeting that her needs > >are > > >not being met. You could request an independent educational consultant > >with > > >expertise in autism evaluate and observe her school program and help >the > > >team to design a program that would meet her needs. If you are unable >to > > >attend An IEP meeting because of an illness or disability you do have >the > > >right to ask for a teleconference or speaker phone meeting. > > > > > > I work at an autism school and I dodge shoes and boots on a daily >basis. > > >It is not uncommon for a teacher to request a parent to send the >student > >to > > >school with footwear that are not too easy to remove. I can't tell you > >how > > >much time I spend during the day putting shoes back on while carefully > >not > > >bending my head so that my hair is not grabbed and taking care not to >get > > >scratched. The teachers request that all students that scratch have >their > > >nails cut very often. We happen to have a few nurses that will cut the > > >students nails if it becomes a problem. I work with a very good teacher > > >that had her faced gouged by a student last week. The student was happy > >and > > >smiling one moment and in a second she lunged at the teacher. It >happens > > >all the time and is just part of the job. I don't think the teacher's > > >request was unreasonable. > > > Charlyne > > > Mom to Zeb 14 DS/OCD/ASD? > > > > > >mzdaisee47 wrote: > > > It's my turn to vent about a teacher. > > >Janie's teacher sent home a note today telling me to cut her > > >fingernails because instead of pinching she scratched today. Well, #1 > > >she pinches with her thumb and pointer, #2 she scratches with all 4 > > >fingers, and #3 her nails were cut about 4 days ago and not that > > >long. It is not that easy to get her to sit still to cut them either. > > >Also, the note said not to let her wear her boots to school because > > >she takes them off and throws them too easily. She can get ANY shoes > > >off fast and throw them including high tops with the laces double > > >knotted in the back. Not only that, but her report card shows that > > >she has made zero progress this year. In K-1 she progressed slowly, > > >but steadily both years with a different teacher. In our district her > > >current teacher has all the sped kids in her age group. This teacher > > >has been cold since I first met her last spring and has failed to > > >comply with requests for feedback throughout the year. (Thanks to the > > >person who gave me the link for the forms). She ignored Janie's > > >psychologist's offer to have a teleconference to discuss Janie's > > >needs and how to deal with her aggression. > > >I started to gather stuff before Christmas to request an IEP meeting, > > >but put it off until now due to my surgery. Now I am back at it and > > >will turn in my request tomorrow since I plan to meet with the > > >principal about today's note. Janie needs a 1-on-1 aide, she needs to > > >be given work appropriate for her level (not 2nd grade level), I need > > >written documentation regarding her behavior issues, I need to see > > >her goals being met or at least progress being made toward them. I am > > >not self disciplined enough to home school her and do not want > > >someone to come to our house to teach her because she needs to learn > > >appropriate social behaviors. I have to find out what options are > > >available in our area. We liked Janie's previous teacher so well I > > >would gladly send her back to the previous school if I could. > > >Tomorrow I also plan to call DSHS and find out if we have special ed > > >advocates here and how to get one for Janie. You can tell I am angry > > >and a bit frazzled right now. Thanks for listening! > > > P. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 Hi Charlyne, Whoa! I have been behind reading and to read this now your on the side of the field. I can imagine what stories you could share. At least you always follow your instincts for the individuals health concerns too as this poor student could of ended up getting dehydrated experiencing all that sweat/heat. Poor child really needed some comfort, taking action, leave it to you in understanding what was going on. You're right on the kissing, being cautious what we teach our kids because other would not understand when it becomes known as inappropriate touching especially not cute when they become older. What age level are you assisting? Besides dodging, what do you do? How long has this been going on? I'm nodding imagining when you hear about these stories that the parents are demanding. Hope all is well with Zeb. Irma,18,DS/ASD > > Hi Sara, > ROTFLOL, I know it isn't really funny but only a sped parent could appreciate this. I wish a few of my students at school had the 24 " and shoe goals. I am on my guard dodging fists, shoes, teeth and whatever. Many of the parents don't get it. One student comes into school with a very heavy pullover sweater everyday. He is always sweltering. I am not allowed to take his sweater off because Mom has requested that it stay on. The administration cannot convince her that the child is soaking wet with sweat. I took it off the other day and told them to fire me. One Mom has a habit of kissing her teenage daughter's finger, why? The student constantly has her fingers in the staffs face. The Mom thinks it's cute, not. The stories I could tell. > Charlyne > Mom to Zeb 14 DS/OCD/ASD? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2007 Report Share Posted January 29, 2007 Hi Irma, I started working at a regional state school in November with students primarily diagnosed with autism. They sought me. I was hesitant considering that it is totally the opposite of my belief in environment but decided I would try it. Some of the students do not belong at that school and some do. The students are between 6 - 21. I usually work with the teens but occassionally I am with the 10-12 yr old students. Most of the students are nonverbal or have limited speech. Many are extremely violent. It is so sad. I am afraid of a few students which is something I am not proud of. I am disgusted at the ignorance of the parents, not all, but many. If a student obsesses on lint why dress them daily in fleece that they can pick off and flick all day. How do you redirect them when what they are dressed in makes them crazy? The parent says too bad. Our group does not represent the majority of parents. We have the best of the best. I am a well paid babysitter. Little teaching occurs when you are bobbing and dodging. The PE program and staff are fantastic. I have learned so much from them. The gym equipment is plentiful and state of the art. I have watched students that have difficulty walking put on inline skates and take off skating better than I could. I am amazed at what these teachers have accomplished. Learning everyday. I took today off to finish my quarterly taxes. I better get calculating. Charlyne Mom to Zeb 14 DS/OCD/ASD? mum592001 wrote: Hi Charlyne, Whoa! I have been behind reading and to read this now your on the side of the field. I can imagine what stories you could share. At least you always follow your instincts for the individuals health concerns too as this poor student could of ended up getting dehydrated experiencing all that sweat/heat. Poor child really needed some comfort, taking action, leave it to you in understanding what was going on. You're right on the kissing, being cautious what we teach our kids because other would not understand when it becomes known as inappropriate touching especially not cute when they become older. What age level are you assisting? Besides dodging, what do you do? How long has this been going on? I'm nodding imagining when you hear about these stories that the parents are demanding. Hope all is well with Zeb. Irma,18,DS/ASD > > Hi Sara, > ROTFLOL, I know it isn't really funny but only a sped parent could appreciate this. I wish a few of my students at school had the 24 " and shoe goals. I am on my guard dodging fists, shoes, teeth and whatever. Many of the parents don't get it. One student comes into school with a very heavy pullover sweater everyday. He is always sweltering. I am not allowed to take his sweater off because Mom has requested that it stay on. The administration cannot convince her that the child is soaking wet with sweat. I took it off the other day and told them to fire me. One Mom has a habit of kissing her teenage daughter's finger, why? The student constantly has her fingers in the staffs face. The Mom thinks it's cute, not. The stories I could tell. > Charlyne > Mom to Zeb 14 DS/OCD/ASD? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2007 Report Share Posted January 30, 2007 Charlyne, What you had observed is incredible that the PE program/gym teacher has been creative incorporating working with the student with the PECS. As a matter of fact today's (Tues.)workshop that I had attended was Incorporating PECS Across the Day. There was even a video clip shown with something similar like this. This makes me happy to know that this student is receiving PE, everyone needs physical activity and incorporating the PECS is a plus. Movement drives language, keeps their brain functioning to make some connection. Yesterday's (Mon.)workshop was on the PECS Review, Practice and Problem Solving. I'll look forward reading when you have the opportunity to witness the music program, sounds great. is receiving PECS at the Vocation Transition Program and you know me I'm going to make sure I'm educated in this area so that nobody ever pulls a number on me like in the past plus to stay on the same page implementing it at home. It is just awesome to be able to understand. I know whenever ages out of the school system I will have a choice of modality to choose from with the approaches to communication training in whatever future plans when crossing this bridge. I had decided last Friday to attend a session where Dorfman was presenting Nutritional Therapy to Enhance Cognitive Development. just gave me the reassurance needed as 's current doctor has him on a new nutrient treatment plan. I know I am definitely on the right track as I have heard from other professionals whom I have heard at workshops or conferences. I know it will not be 100% but hopefully it will decrease the discomfort he is experiencing at this time. Still learning the ropes here. Irma,18,DS/ASD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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