lay versus other terms

[Guest guest]

Good points, Nikki.

The original point I was making -- also now being buried under the sands of too many e-mails is that there are NO "lay" IBCLCs. If she is a housewife who has come to this because of her passion for nursing her children, and she has jumped through all the hoops to become an IBCLC, she is now certified and is not a "lay" lactation consultant or "lay" IBCLC.

I'm objecting to the term because it doesn't fit the definition of lay, and because it should not be used to mean a non-licensed HCP. That housewife who becomes an IBCLC probably worked a lot harder to become an IBCLC than I had to because I was already an RN (well, actually, I was in the first 3 years of people that didn't have to do anything but pay for and pass the exam). But in fairness -- I worked very hard to become an RN!!

Jan

To me, "lay" implies a certain freedom from constraint and allopathic culturization and will always be an honored term. A lay lactation consultant is one who has no formal license or degree, and has come to breastfeeding work from the passion of her heart and working mothers. An example of this is a housewife who has nursed her children. The term is apparently now being buried under the sands of time, and changing values.Lay people have different points of view and are valuable because of that.

[Guest guest]

Hi:

When I first got into the birth scene, as apprentice to a person who proudly

called herself a 'lay midwife', people with skills (but no license nor formal

schooling) worked in birth, childbirth education and breastfeeding and described

themselves using the word 'lay'.

I have taught nursing mothers for years to become 'lay breastfeeding

counselors'...equipped to provide practical and non-medical advice and

encouragement to mothers.

To me, " lay " implies a certain freedom from constraint and allopathic

culturization and will always be an honored term. A lay lactation consultant is

one who has no formal license or degree, and has come to breastfeeding work from

the passion of her heart and working mothers. An example of this is a housewife

who has nursed her children. The term is apparently now being buried under the

sands of time, and changing values.

Lay people have different points of view and are valuable because of that.

warmly,

Nikki Lee

[Guest guest]

I like that, Nikki. that's how I've always thought of it, too. I never thought of the term as derogatory, but I can see both sides... Beebe, M.Ed., IBCLC Lactation Consultant/Postpartum Doula www.second9months.comBreastfeeding Between the Lines: http://second9months.wordpress.com/--- From: nleeguitar

Subject: lay versus other termsTo: Date: Monday, September 6, 2010, 6:24 AM

Hi:

When I first got into the birth scene, as apprentice to a person who proudly called herself a 'lay midwife', people with skills (but no license nor formal schooling) worked in birth, childbirth education and breastfeeding and described themselves using the word 'lay'.

I have taught nursing mothers for years to become 'lay breastfeeding counselors'...equipped to provide practical and non-medical advice and encouragement to mothers.

To me, "lay" implies a certain freedom from constraint and allopathic culturization and will always be an honored term. A lay lactation consultant is one who has no formal license or degree, and has come to breastfeeding work from the passion of her heart and working mothers. An example of this is a housewife who has nursed her children. The term is apparently now being buried under the sands of time, and changing values.

Lay people have different points of view and are valuable because of that.

warmly,

Nikki Lee