Guest guest Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 Well that is very unethical. That shouldn't be done by him, absurd. --- hunstad2 wrote: > http://james.istop.com/ssrisex/cases.html > > Someone is copying our details from this Yahoo group > and reposting at > Istop.com. > > I see that this person is trying to make a point, > perhaps with good > intentions, but he didn't get the permission of > folks here to > cross-post that stuff to his website. I don't feel > comfortable with > my email address and detailed story being about > SSRI-related sexual > dysfunction being posted on another site which is > indexed by Google's > search engine. > Even Vornan's post is there too and other members. > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 I appreciate your point about not wanting your email address disclosed on the net but as far as informing people about PSSD goes i hope the poster carries on. Why should any of us be embarassed and hide our stories away about how we were violated by psychiatry?Its the medical `professionals` who need to lower their heads in shame. I recently made a formal complaint about the doctor who first pressured me into taking Prozac when i had just turned 18.This was because, without consulting me and going against the prescription the urologist had originally done out for me,he decided that i should only be able to receive caverjet once a week and thought i should have the pleasure of injecting myself in the penis to obtain a proper erection once a week only. (G.P`S in England get bonus awards in their pay packages not just from pharmaceuticals for pushing their drugs but for saving prescription costs on the national health service.) Anyway when i complained about him and how he has persistently tried to mask my impotence as a sympton of mental illness despite the fact that other medical professionals have stated Prozac as the cause he sent a letter back appologising and saying that he prescribed Prozac to me only because a psychiatrist had recommended so. What he is hoping i dont make issue of is how that psychiatrist was only referred to because he wanted the approval to drug me with Prozac from him. This doctor was very condenscending and intollerant towards me as a teenager and used to say to me " so do you expect to never work? " and " if you want to be treated you have to co-operate with the treatment that i offer you " when i was a teenager who d dropped out of school due to classroom anxiety,was lacking direction and was living in a difficult home environment. He now wants to completely change his tune and distance himself from the decision to poison me with prozac which was his.What he doesnt know is i have medical records that show how he described me as " lazing around " during the day, (which was nonsense i was studying at home) and this reflects his attitude of contempt towards me.He will be inevitably making more appologies when i quote him some recorded information. Id recommend that other people use the freedom of information act to obtain their medical records and see what fiction their doctor might have written about them to justify giving them pills to rectify chemical imbalances that no ones proven the existence of. It is not good enough for doctors to say that they have acted within their approved code of practice when they hand out psychiatric drugs like smarties.They should be made personally responsible for the gamble they took with our health and how they wrote us off as people to `trial` drugs on without any (proper) warning about the dangers we were being subjected to. Should we care about our stories being told on the internet?I dont want to sound like im telling other people how to feel but i believe the answer is " no " .We re just names on a screen that dont mean anything to the people reading and your name might as well be anyone elses for all it matters. Personally id rather go on TV and talk about this openly than let drug companies continue to ruin peoples lives banking on embarassment as assurance that people wont come foward in numbers strong enough to expose the sickening damage they are doing to people. If we were all more pro-active we would probably speed up the whole process and get some questions answered about PSSD sooner.For example the depression alliance in England say on their website that they are open to people volunteering to become case studies over whatever experience of psychiatric drugs they have undergone. http://www.depressionalliance.org/docs/contact_us/contact_us.html I wrote to them a week ago informing them about PSSD and hope they will offer something to help us spread awareness.I dont care about my name being put around i just want the drugs that have robbed so many people of their health to stop being put around as safe forms of medication. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 Good for you, . This is the right attitude. I am still pursuing the quacks who got me on celexa. They have both been fired from their jobs already, but I am not done with them yet. There needs to be accountability. Vornan > > > > I appreciate your point about not wanting your email address > disclosed on the net but as far as informing people about PSSD goes > i hope the poster carries on. > > Why should any of us be embarassed and hide our stories away about > how we were violated by psychiatry?Its the medical `professionals` > who need to lower their heads in shame. > > I recently made a formal complaint about the doctor who first > pressured me into taking Prozac when i had just turned 18.This was > because, without consulting me and going against the prescription > the urologist had originally done out for me,he decided that i > should only be able to receive caverjet once a week and thought i > should have the pleasure of injecting myself in the penis to obtain > a proper erection once a week only. > > (G.P`S in England get bonus awards in their pay packages not just > from pharmaceuticals for pushing their drugs but for saving > prescription costs on the national health service.) > > > Anyway when i complained about him and how he has persistently tried > to mask my impotence as a sympton of mental illness despite the fact > that other medical professionals have stated Prozac as the cause he > sent a letter back appologising and saying that he prescribed Prozac > to me only because a psychiatrist had recommended so. > > What he is hoping i dont make issue of is how that psychiatrist was > only referred to because he wanted the approval to drug me with > Prozac from him. > > This doctor was very condenscending and intollerant towards me as a > teenager and used to say to me " so do you expect to never work? " > and " if you want to be treated you have to co-operate with the > treatment that i offer you " when i was a teenager who d dropped out > of school due to classroom anxiety,was lacking direction and was > living in a difficult home environment. > > He now wants to completely change his tune and distance himself from > the decision to poison me with prozac which was his.What he doesnt > know is i have medical records that show how he described me > as " lazing around " during the day, (which was nonsense i was > studying at home) and this reflects his attitude of contempt towards > me.He will be inevitably making more appologies when i quote him > some recorded information. > > Id recommend that other people use the freedom of information act > to obtain their medical records and see what fiction their doctor > might have written about them to justify giving them pills to > rectify chemical imbalances that no ones proven the existence of. > > It is not good enough for doctors to say that they have acted within > their approved code of practice when they hand out psychiatric > drugs like smarties.They should be made personally responsible for > the gamble they took with our health and how they wrote us off as > people to `trial` drugs on without any (proper) warning about the > dangers we were being subjected to. > > > Should we care about our stories being told on the internet?I dont > want to sound like im telling other people how to feel but i believe > the answer is " no " .We re just names on a screen that dont mean > anything to the people reading and your name might as well be anyone > elses for all it matters. > > > Personally id rather go on TV and talk about this openly than let > drug companies continue to ruin peoples lives banking on > embarassment as assurance that people wont come foward in numbers > strong enough to expose the sickening damage they are doing to > people. > > > If we were all more pro-active we would probably speed up the whole > process and get some questions answered about PSSD sooner.For > example the depression alliance in England say on their website that > they are open to people volunteering to become case studies over > whatever experience of psychiatric drugs they have undergone. > > > http://www.depressionalliance.org/docs/contact_us/contact_us.html > > > I wrote to them a week ago informing them about PSSD and hope they > will offer something to help us spread awareness.I dont care about > my name being put around i just want the drugs that have robbed so > many people of their health to stop being put around as safe forms > of medication. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 I think it is who is doing that. He does a very good job of maintaining the website. But he may not be aware that those cases and group posts are cached by Google from his homepage - I think he was indexing them for his own use. In any case, I will ask him to remove the email addresses so that they ae anonymous. It appears as though Yahoo group messages are not indexed by Google. Vornan In SSRIsex , notgiving wrote: > > Well that is very unethical. That shouldn't be done by > him, absurd. > > --- hunstad2 wrote: > > > http://james.istop.com/ssrisex/cases.html > > > > Someone is copying our details from this Yahoo group > > and reposting at > > Istop.com. > > > > I see that this person is trying to make a point, > > perhaps with good > > intentions, but he didn't get the permission of > > folks here to > > cross-post that stuff to his website. I don't feel > > comfortable with > > my email address and detailed story being about > > SSRI-related sexual > > dysfunction being posted on another site which is > > indexed by Google's > > search engine. > > Even Vornan's post is there too and other members. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 Brillant post . My inital reaction to our posts being spread aorund the internet without our approval was unethical. You have convinced me though that you are right, we need to get pro active about this despite it being embarrising. If we dont speak out we won't be heard and on that point I agree. Thanks for such activism, its invigorating. --- kevinbennett23us wrote: > > > I appreciate your point about not wanting your > email address > disclosed on the net but as far as informing people > about PSSD goes > i hope the poster carries on. > > Why should any of us be embarassed and hide our > stories away about > how we were violated by psychiatry?Its the medical > `professionals` > who need to lower their heads in shame. > > I recently made a formal complaint about the doctor > who first > pressured me into taking Prozac when i had just > turned 18.This was > because, without consulting me and going against the > prescription > the urologist had originally done out for me,he > decided that i > should only be able to receive caverjet once a week > and thought i > should have the pleasure of injecting myself in the > penis to obtain > a proper erection once a week only. > > (G.P`S in England get bonus awards in their pay > packages not just > from pharmaceuticals for pushing their drugs but for > saving > prescription costs on the national health service.) > > > Anyway when i complained about him and how he has > persistently tried > to mask my impotence as a sympton of mental illness > despite the fact > that other medical professionals have stated Prozac > as the cause he > sent a letter back appologising and saying that he > prescribed Prozac > to me only because a psychiatrist had recommended > so. > > What he is hoping i dont make issue of is how that > psychiatrist was > only referred to because he wanted the approval to > drug me with > Prozac from him. > > This doctor was very condenscending and intollerant > towards me as a > teenager and used to say to me " so do you expect to > never work? " > and " if you want to be treated you have to > co-operate with the > treatment that i offer you " when i was a teenager > who d dropped out > of school due to classroom anxiety,was lacking > direction and was > living in a difficult home environment. > > He now wants to completely change his tune and > distance himself from > the decision to poison me with prozac which was > his.What he doesnt > know is i have medical records that show how he > described me > as " lazing around " during the day, (which was > nonsense i was > studying at home) and this reflects his attitude of > contempt towards > me.He will be inevitably making more appologies when > i quote him > some recorded information. > > Id recommend that other people use the freedom of > information act > to obtain their medical records and see what fiction > their doctor > might have written about them to justify giving them > pills to > rectify chemical imbalances that no ones proven the > existence of. > > It is not good enough for doctors to say that they > have acted within > their approved code of practice when they hand out > psychiatric > drugs like smarties.They should be made personally > responsible for > the gamble they took with our health and how they > wrote us off as > people to `trial` drugs on without any (proper) > warning about the > dangers we were being subjected to. > > > Should we care about our stories being told on the > internet?I dont > want to sound like im telling other people how to > feel but i believe > the answer is " no " .We re just names on a screen > that dont mean > anything to the people reading and your name might > as well be anyone > elses for all it matters. > > > Personally id rather go on TV and talk about this > openly than let > drug companies continue to ruin peoples lives > banking on > embarassment as assurance that people wont come > foward in numbers > strong enough to expose the sickening damage they > are doing to > people. > > > If we were all more pro-active we would probably > speed up the whole > process and get some questions answered about PSSD > sooner.For > example the depression alliance in England say on > their website that > they are open to people volunteering to become case > studies over > whatever experience of psychiatric drugs they have > undergone. > > > http://www.depressionalliance.org/docs/contact_us/contact_us.html > > > I wrote to them a week ago informing them about PSSD > and hope they > will offer something to help us spread awareness.I > dont care about > my name being put around i just want the drugs that > have robbed so > many people of their health to stop being put around > as safe forms > of medication. > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 Let me clarify so that my last two posts don't seem contradictory: I think by far the best attitude is to be proactive and not be concerned about anonymity. But such an approach should be voluntary. Vornan > > > > > http://james.istop.com/ssrisex/cases.html > > > > > > Someone is copying our details from this Yahoo group > > > and reposting at > > > Istop.com. > > > > > > I see that this person is trying to make a point, > > > perhaps with good > > > intentions, but he didn't get the permission of > > > folks here to > > > cross-post that stuff to his website. I don't feel > > > comfortable with > > > my email address and detailed story being about > > > SSRI-related sexual > > > dysfunction being posted on another site which is > > > indexed by Google's > > > search engine. > > > Even Vornan's post is there too and other members. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 My apologies to everyone in the group for the data getting indexed by Google. I'll see if I can get it removed from the google cache ASAP (I have already submitted the request). As Vornan suspected this was my personal scratch area that was never meant for public consumption. I had created it shortly after joining the group when I was trying to read though all the old posts and summarize it for myself. Vornan and I where also just starting to work on the http://ssri-side-effects.com/ and I had used the pages as a demo example of what a user wiki might be useful for. Anyway I had long forgotten about the pages. I'm surprised that Google found it because I thought that the only links to the pages where from this group put apparently Google got to it somehow. Anyway I have moved the offending data. Again apologies for the privacy leak. Having said that, for those who are willing, I encourage you to share you stores publicly on sites that are indexed (and to include the words Post SSRI Sexual Dysfunction (PSSD) in the text) The more we get the word out there the better the changes are people will listen and more doctors will take the problem seriously. - > > I think it is who is doing that. He does a very good job of > maintaining the website. > But he may not be aware that those cases and group posts are cached > by Google from his homepage - I think he was indexing them for his > own use. In any case, I will ask him to remove the email addresses > so that they ae anonymous. > > It appears as though Yahoo group messages are not indexed by Google. > > Vornan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 Im behind you 100 percent and you seem very genuine in your cause. Its a difficult subject matter in that its such a sensitive embarrsing topic, but as another poster pointed out on here, we have to speak out and I fully agree. We have to get over that and be willing to speak out. On the other hand we need to be careful about each individual's position in regards to giving out personal information. While im tottally in support of getting the word out there, I also don't want my personal email or last name, etc. to be given out. SO while we must be pro active, we should do so with much tact and wisdom in regards to peoples privacy. --- " R. Skinner " wrote: > > My apologies to everyone in the group for the data > getting indexed by > Google. I'll see if I can get it removed from the > google cache ASAP (I > have already submitted the request). > > As Vornan suspected this was my personal scratch > area that was never > meant for public consumption. I had created it > shortly after joining > the group when I was trying to read though all the > old posts and > summarize it for myself. Vornan and I where also > just starting to > work on the http://ssri-side-effects.com/ and I had > used the pages as > a demo example of what a user wiki might be useful > for. Anyway I had > long forgotten about the pages. > > I'm surprised that Google found it because I thought > that the only > links to the pages where from this group put > apparently Google got to > it somehow. > > Anyway I have moved the offending data. Again > apologies for the > privacy leak. > > Having said that, for those who are willing, I > encourage you to share > you stores publicly on sites that are indexed (and > to include the > words Post SSRI Sexual Dysfunction (PSSD) in the > text) The more we > get the word out there the better the changes are > people will listen > and more doctors will take the problem seriously. > > - > > > > > > > I think it is who is doing that. He does a > very good job of > > maintaining the website. > > But he may not be aware that those cases and group > posts are cached > > by Google from his homepage - I think he was > indexing them for his > > own use. In any case, I will ask him to remove > the email addresses > > so that they ae anonymous. > > > > It appears as though Yahoo group messages are not > indexed by Google. > > > > Vornan > > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 I want my doctor to suffer too after what he has done to me. How did you get them to lose their job ? or did they lose their licence ? My doc gave me free samples of Zoloft instead of the precription so He can make me visit him more often, I hate that SOB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 I am very interested in hearing how to get the doctor who prescribed me Prozac FIRED. I want his career as a doctor to come to an end. I want his life to be spent mopping the floor at the local Walmart. (Sorry to all those group members who are currently mopping the floor at their local Walmart due to losing their jobs because of chaos the SSRIs inflicted on their brains.) > > I want my doctor to suffer too after what he has done to me. > How did you get them to lose their job ? or did they lose their > licence ? My doc gave me free samples of Zoloft instead of the > precription so He can make me visit him more often, I hate that SOB. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 Aloha All! Agreed! When I " discovered " on my own that it was the SSRI for the most part (I used to blame the high doses of opiates I take for pain for my sexual dysfunction(s)) that caused my libido to drop to practically zero and my Total " T " to be at 84 instead of low/normal of 290, I was furious with my shrink. Unfortunately, since my pain management doc retired last February, he is the ONLY Doctor on this island that will write my prescriptions for my pain meds. Sheesh! I can't win! you poor soul! Having to inject something directly INTO your penis in order to achieve an erection???? I've never heard of that before! What's the name of the drug you used or use? That's one of the strangest ways (not to mention most painful ways) to get an erection I've EVER HEARD OF! MY GOSH! Hey, , feel free to use any portion or all of any post I make here. I'm 51, happily married and now have a great sex life. It isn't like I'm worried about getting 'any' in the future. If my wife dies prematurely, well, I've heard of some interesting devices out there for guys...LOL! Seriously, feel free to put my posts on Times Square if you want to. Aloha for now, Hawaiian Wayne > > > > > > > I appreciate your point about not wanting your > > email address > > disclosed on the net but as far as informing people > > about PSSD goes > > i hope the poster carries on. > > > > Why should any of us be embarassed and hide our > > stories away about > > how we were violated by psychiatry?Its the medical > > `professionals` > > who need to lower their heads in shame. > > > > I recently made a formal complaint about the doctor > > who first > > pressured me into taking Prozac when i had just > > turned 18.This was > > because, without consulting me and going against the > > prescription > > the urologist had originally done out for me,he > > decided that i > > should only be able to receive caverjet once a week > > and thought i > > should have the pleasure of injecting myself in the > > penis to obtain > > a proper erection once a week only. > > > > (G.P`S in England get bonus awards in their pay > > packages not just > > from pharmaceuticals for pushing their drugs but for > > saving > > prescription costs on the national health service.) > > > > > > Anyway when i complained about him and how he has > > persistently tried > > to mask my impotence as a sympton of mental illness > > despite the fact > > that other medical professionals have stated Prozac > > as the cause he > > sent a letter back appologising and saying that he > > prescribed Prozac > > to me only because a psychiatrist had recommended > > so. > > > > What he is hoping i dont make issue of is how that > > psychiatrist was > > only referred to because he wanted the approval to > > drug me with > > Prozac from him. > > > > This doctor was very condenscending and intollerant > > towards me as a > > teenager and used to say to me " so do you expect to > > never work? " > > and " if you want to be treated you have to > > co-operate with the > > treatment that i offer you " when i was a teenager > > who d dropped out > > of school due to classroom anxiety,was lacking > > direction and was > > living in a difficult home environment. > > > > He now wants to completely change his tune and > > distance himself from > > the decision to poison me with prozac which was > > his.What he doesnt > > know is i have medical records that show how he > > described me > > as " lazing around " during the day, (which was > > nonsense i was > > studying at home) and this reflects his attitude of > > contempt towards > > me.He will be inevitably making more appologies when > > i quote him > > some recorded information. > > > > Id recommend that other people use the freedom of > > information act > > to obtain their medical records and see what fiction > > their doctor > > might have written about them to justify giving them > > pills to > > rectify chemical imbalances that no ones proven the > > existence of. > > > > It is not good enough for doctors to say that they > > have acted within > > their approved code of practice when they hand out > > psychiatric > > drugs like smarties.They should be made personally > > responsible for > > the gamble they took with our health and how they > > wrote us off as > > people to `trial` drugs on without any (proper) > > warning about the > > dangers we were being subjected to. > > > > > > Should we care about our stories being told on the > > internet?I dont > > want to sound like im telling other people how to > > feel but i believe > > the answer is " no " .We re just names on a screen > > that dont mean > > anything to the people reading and your name might > > as well be anyone > > elses for all it matters. > > > > > > Personally id rather go on TV and talk about this > > openly than let > > drug companies continue to ruin peoples lives > > banking on > > embarassment as assurance that people wont come > > foward in numbers > > strong enough to expose the sickening damage they > > are doing to > > people. > > > > > > If we were all more pro-active we would probably > > speed up the whole > > process and get some questions answered about PSSD > > sooner.For > > example the depression alliance in England say on > > their website that > > they are open to people volunteering to become case > > studies over > > whatever experience of psychiatric drugs they have > > undergone. > > > > > > > http://www.depressionalliance.org/docs/contact_us/contact_us.html > > > > > > I wrote to them a week ago informing them about PSSD > > and hope they > > will offer something to help us spread awareness.I > > dont care about > > my name being put around i just want the drugs that > > have robbed so > > many people of their health to stop being put around > > as safe forms > > of medication. > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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