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Well that is very unethical. That shouldn't be done by

him, absurd.

--- hunstad2 wrote:

> http://james.istop.com/ssrisex/cases.html

>

> Someone is copying our details from this Yahoo group

> and reposting at

> Istop.com.

>

> I see that this person is trying to make a point,

> perhaps with good

> intentions, but he didn't get the permission of

> folks here to

> cross-post that stuff to his website. I don't feel

> comfortable with

> my email address and detailed story being about

> SSRI-related sexual

> dysfunction being posted on another site which is

> indexed by Google's

> search engine.

> Even Vornan's post is there too and other members.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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I appreciate your point about not wanting your email address

disclosed on the net but as far as informing people about PSSD goes

i hope the poster carries on.

Why should any of us be embarassed and hide our stories away about

how we were violated by psychiatry?Its the medical `professionals`

who need to lower their heads in shame.

I recently made a formal complaint about the doctor who first

pressured me into taking Prozac when i had just turned 18.This was

because, without consulting me and going against the prescription

the urologist had originally done out for me,he decided that i

should only be able to receive caverjet once a week and thought i

should have the pleasure of injecting myself in the penis to obtain

a proper erection once a week only.

(G.P`S in England get bonus awards in their pay packages not just

from pharmaceuticals for pushing their drugs but for saving

prescription costs on the national health service.)

Anyway when i complained about him and how he has persistently tried

to mask my impotence as a sympton of mental illness despite the fact

that other medical professionals have stated Prozac as the cause he

sent a letter back appologising and saying that he prescribed Prozac

to me only because a psychiatrist had recommended so.

What he is hoping i dont make issue of is how that psychiatrist was

only referred to because he wanted the approval to drug me with

Prozac from him.

This doctor was very condenscending and intollerant towards me as a

teenager and used to say to me " so do you expect to never work? "

and " if you want to be treated you have to co-operate with the

treatment that i offer you " when i was a teenager who d dropped out

of school due to classroom anxiety,was lacking direction and was

living in a difficult home environment.

He now wants to completely change his tune and distance himself from

the decision to poison me with prozac which was his.What he doesnt

know is i have medical records that show how he described me

as " lazing around " during the day, (which was nonsense i was

studying at home) and this reflects his attitude of contempt towards

me.He will be inevitably making more appologies when i quote him

some recorded information.

Id recommend that other people use the freedom of information act

to obtain their medical records and see what fiction their doctor

might have written about them to justify giving them pills to

rectify chemical imbalances that no ones proven the existence of.

It is not good enough for doctors to say that they have acted within

their approved code of practice when they hand out psychiatric

drugs like smarties.They should be made personally responsible for

the gamble they took with our health and how they wrote us off as

people to `trial` drugs on without any (proper) warning about the

dangers we were being subjected to.

Should we care about our stories being told on the internet?I dont

want to sound like im telling other people how to feel but i believe

the answer is " no " .We re just names on a screen that dont mean

anything to the people reading and your name might as well be anyone

elses for all it matters.

Personally id rather go on TV and talk about this openly than let

drug companies continue to ruin peoples lives banking on

embarassment as assurance that people wont come foward in numbers

strong enough to expose the sickening damage they are doing to

people.

If we were all more pro-active we would probably speed up the whole

process and get some questions answered about PSSD sooner.For

example the depression alliance in England say on their website that

they are open to people volunteering to become case studies over

whatever experience of psychiatric drugs they have undergone.

http://www.depressionalliance.org/docs/contact_us/contact_us.html

I wrote to them a week ago informing them about PSSD and hope they

will offer something to help us spread awareness.I dont care about

my name being put around i just want the drugs that have robbed so

many people of their health to stop being put around as safe forms

of medication.

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Good for you, . This is the right attitude. I am still

pursuing the quacks who got me on celexa. They have both been fired

from their jobs already, but I am not done with them yet. There

needs to be accountability.

Vornan

>

>

>

> I appreciate your point about not wanting your email address

> disclosed on the net but as far as informing people about PSSD

goes

> i hope the poster carries on.

>

> Why should any of us be embarassed and hide our stories away about

> how we were violated by psychiatry?Its the medical `professionals`

> who need to lower their heads in shame.

>

> I recently made a formal complaint about the doctor who first

> pressured me into taking Prozac when i had just turned 18.This was

> because, without consulting me and going against the prescription

> the urologist had originally done out for me,he decided that i

> should only be able to receive caverjet once a week and thought i

> should have the pleasure of injecting myself in the penis to

obtain

> a proper erection once a week only.

>

> (G.P`S in England get bonus awards in their pay packages not just

> from pharmaceuticals for pushing their drugs but for saving

> prescription costs on the national health service.)

>

>

> Anyway when i complained about him and how he has persistently

tried

> to mask my impotence as a sympton of mental illness despite the

fact

> that other medical professionals have stated Prozac as the cause

he

> sent a letter back appologising and saying that he prescribed

Prozac

> to me only because a psychiatrist had recommended so.

>

> What he is hoping i dont make issue of is how that psychiatrist

was

> only referred to because he wanted the approval to drug me with

> Prozac from him.

>

> This doctor was very condenscending and intollerant towards me as

a

> teenager and used to say to me " so do you expect to never work? "

> and " if you want to be treated you have to co-operate with the

> treatment that i offer you " when i was a teenager who d dropped

out

> of school due to classroom anxiety,was lacking direction and was

> living in a difficult home environment.

>

> He now wants to completely change his tune and distance himself

from

> the decision to poison me with prozac which was his.What he doesnt

> know is i have medical records that show how he described me

> as " lazing around " during the day, (which was nonsense i was

> studying at home) and this reflects his attitude of contempt

towards

> me.He will be inevitably making more appologies when i quote him

> some recorded information.

>

> Id recommend that other people use the freedom of information act

> to obtain their medical records and see what fiction their doctor

> might have written about them to justify giving them pills to

> rectify chemical imbalances that no ones proven the existence of.

>

> It is not good enough for doctors to say that they have acted

within

> their approved code of practice when they hand out psychiatric

> drugs like smarties.They should be made personally responsible for

> the gamble they took with our health and how they wrote us off as

> people to `trial` drugs on without any (proper) warning about the

> dangers we were being subjected to.

>

>

> Should we care about our stories being told on the internet?I dont

> want to sound like im telling other people how to feel but i

believe

> the answer is " no " .We re just names on a screen that dont mean

> anything to the people reading and your name might as well be

anyone

> elses for all it matters.

>

>

> Personally id rather go on TV and talk about this openly than let

> drug companies continue to ruin peoples lives banking on

> embarassment as assurance that people wont come foward in numbers

> strong enough to expose the sickening damage they are doing to

> people.

>

>

> If we were all more pro-active we would probably speed up the

whole

> process and get some questions answered about PSSD sooner.For

> example the depression alliance in England say on their website

that

> they are open to people volunteering to become case studies over

> whatever experience of psychiatric drugs they have undergone.

>

>

> http://www.depressionalliance.org/docs/contact_us/contact_us.html

>

>

> I wrote to them a week ago informing them about PSSD and hope they

> will offer something to help us spread awareness.I dont care about

> my name being put around i just want the drugs that have robbed so

> many people of their health to stop being put around as safe forms

> of medication.

>

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I think it is who is doing that. He does a very good job of

maintaining the website.

But he may not be aware that those cases and group posts are cached

by Google from his homepage - I think he was indexing them for his

own use. In any case, I will ask him to remove the email addresses

so that they ae anonymous.

It appears as though Yahoo group messages are not indexed by Google.

Vornan

In SSRIsex , notgiving

wrote:

>

> Well that is very unethical. That shouldn't be done by

> him, absurd.

>

> --- hunstad2 wrote:

>

> > http://james.istop.com/ssrisex/cases.html

> >

> > Someone is copying our details from this Yahoo group

> > and reposting at

> > Istop.com.

> >

> > I see that this person is trying to make a point,

> > perhaps with good

> > intentions, but he didn't get the permission of

> > folks here to

> > cross-post that stuff to his website. I don't feel

> > comfortable with

> > my email address and detailed story being about

> > SSRI-related sexual

> > dysfunction being posted on another site which is

> > indexed by Google's

> > search engine.

> > Even Vornan's post is there too and other members.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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Brillant post . My inital reaction to our posts

being spread aorund the internet without our approval

was unethical. You have convinced me though that you

are right, we need to get pro active about this

despite it being embarrising. If we dont speak out we

won't be heard and on that point I agree. Thanks for

such activism, its invigorating.

--- kevinbennett23us wrote:

>

>

> I appreciate your point about not wanting your

> email address

> disclosed on the net but as far as informing people

> about PSSD goes

> i hope the poster carries on.

>

> Why should any of us be embarassed and hide our

> stories away about

> how we were violated by psychiatry?Its the medical

> `professionals`

> who need to lower their heads in shame.

>

> I recently made a formal complaint about the doctor

> who first

> pressured me into taking Prozac when i had just

> turned 18.This was

> because, without consulting me and going against the

> prescription

> the urologist had originally done out for me,he

> decided that i

> should only be able to receive caverjet once a week

> and thought i

> should have the pleasure of injecting myself in the

> penis to obtain

> a proper erection once a week only.

>

> (G.P`S in England get bonus awards in their pay

> packages not just

> from pharmaceuticals for pushing their drugs but for

> saving

> prescription costs on the national health service.)

>

>

> Anyway when i complained about him and how he has

> persistently tried

> to mask my impotence as a sympton of mental illness

> despite the fact

> that other medical professionals have stated Prozac

> as the cause he

> sent a letter back appologising and saying that he

> prescribed Prozac

> to me only because a psychiatrist had recommended

> so.

>

> What he is hoping i dont make issue of is how that

> psychiatrist was

> only referred to because he wanted the approval to

> drug me with

> Prozac from him.

>

> This doctor was very condenscending and intollerant

> towards me as a

> teenager and used to say to me " so do you expect to

> never work? "

> and " if you want to be treated you have to

> co-operate with the

> treatment that i offer you " when i was a teenager

> who d dropped out

> of school due to classroom anxiety,was lacking

> direction and was

> living in a difficult home environment.

>

> He now wants to completely change his tune and

> distance himself from

> the decision to poison me with prozac which was

> his.What he doesnt

> know is i have medical records that show how he

> described me

> as " lazing around " during the day, (which was

> nonsense i was

> studying at home) and this reflects his attitude of

> contempt towards

> me.He will be inevitably making more appologies when

> i quote him

> some recorded information.

>

> Id recommend that other people use the freedom of

> information act

> to obtain their medical records and see what fiction

> their doctor

> might have written about them to justify giving them

> pills to

> rectify chemical imbalances that no ones proven the

> existence of.

>

> It is not good enough for doctors to say that they

> have acted within

> their approved code of practice when they hand out

> psychiatric

> drugs like smarties.They should be made personally

> responsible for

> the gamble they took with our health and how they

> wrote us off as

> people to `trial` drugs on without any (proper)

> warning about the

> dangers we were being subjected to.

>

>

> Should we care about our stories being told on the

> internet?I dont

> want to sound like im telling other people how to

> feel but i believe

> the answer is " no " .We re just names on a screen

> that dont mean

> anything to the people reading and your name might

> as well be anyone

> elses for all it matters.

>

>

> Personally id rather go on TV and talk about this

> openly than let

> drug companies continue to ruin peoples lives

> banking on

> embarassment as assurance that people wont come

> foward in numbers

> strong enough to expose the sickening damage they

> are doing to

> people.

>

>

> If we were all more pro-active we would probably

> speed up the whole

> process and get some questions answered about PSSD

> sooner.For

> example the depression alliance in England say on

> their website that

> they are open to people volunteering to become case

> studies over

> whatever experience of psychiatric drugs they have

> undergone.

>

>

>

http://www.depressionalliance.org/docs/contact_us/contact_us.html

>

>

> I wrote to them a week ago informing them about PSSD

> and hope they

> will offer something to help us spread awareness.I

> dont care about

> my name being put around i just want the drugs that

> have robbed so

> many people of their health to stop being put around

> as safe forms

> of medication.

>

>

>

>

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Let me clarify so that my last two posts don't seem contradictory:

I think by far the best attitude is to be proactive and not be

concerned about anonymity. But such an approach should be voluntary.

Vornan

> >

> > > http://james.istop.com/ssrisex/cases.html

> > >

> > > Someone is copying our details from this Yahoo group

> > > and reposting at

> > > Istop.com.

> > >

> > > I see that this person is trying to make a point,

> > > perhaps with good

> > > intentions, but he didn't get the permission of

> > > folks here to

> > > cross-post that stuff to his website. I don't feel

> > > comfortable with

> > > my email address and detailed story being about

> > > SSRI-related sexual

> > > dysfunction being posted on another site which is

> > > indexed by Google's

> > > search engine.

> > > Even Vornan's post is there too and other members.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

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My apologies to everyone in the group for the data getting indexed by

Google. I'll see if I can get it removed from the google cache ASAP (I

have already submitted the request).

As Vornan suspected this was my personal scratch area that was never

meant for public consumption. I had created it shortly after joining

the group when I was trying to read though all the old posts and

summarize it for myself. Vornan and I where also just starting to

work on the http://ssri-side-effects.com/ and I had used the pages as

a demo example of what a user wiki might be useful for. Anyway I had

long forgotten about the pages.

I'm surprised that Google found it because I thought that the only

links to the pages where from this group put apparently Google got to

it somehow.

Anyway I have moved the offending data. Again apologies for the

privacy leak.

Having said that, for those who are willing, I encourage you to share

you stores publicly on sites that are indexed (and to include the

words Post SSRI Sexual Dysfunction (PSSD) in the text) The more we

get the word out there the better the changes are people will listen

and more doctors will take the problem seriously.

-

>

> I think it is who is doing that. He does a very good job of

> maintaining the website.

> But he may not be aware that those cases and group posts are cached

> by Google from his homepage - I think he was indexing them for his

> own use. In any case, I will ask him to remove the email addresses

> so that they ae anonymous.

>

> It appears as though Yahoo group messages are not indexed by Google.

>

> Vornan

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Im behind you 100 percent and you seem very genuine

in your cause. Its a difficult subject matter in that

its such a sensitive embarrsing topic, but as another

poster pointed out on here, we have to speak out and I

fully agree. We have to get over that and be willing

to speak out. On the other hand we need to be careful

about each individual's position in regards to giving

out personal information. While im tottally in support

of getting the word out there, I also don't want my

personal email or last name, etc. to be given out. SO

while we must be pro active, we should do so with much

tact and wisdom in regards to peoples privacy.

--- " R. Skinner " wrote:

>

> My apologies to everyone in the group for the data

> getting indexed by

> Google. I'll see if I can get it removed from the

> google cache ASAP (I

> have already submitted the request).

>

> As Vornan suspected this was my personal scratch

> area that was never

> meant for public consumption. I had created it

> shortly after joining

> the group when I was trying to read though all the

> old posts and

> summarize it for myself. Vornan and I where also

> just starting to

> work on the http://ssri-side-effects.com/ and I had

> used the pages as

> a demo example of what a user wiki might be useful

> for. Anyway I had

> long forgotten about the pages.

>

> I'm surprised that Google found it because I thought

> that the only

> links to the pages where from this group put

> apparently Google got to

> it somehow.

>

> Anyway I have moved the offending data. Again

> apologies for the

> privacy leak.

>

> Having said that, for those who are willing, I

> encourage you to share

> you stores publicly on sites that are indexed (and

> to include the

> words Post SSRI Sexual Dysfunction (PSSD) in the

> text) The more we

> get the word out there the better the changes are

> people will listen

> and more doctors will take the problem seriously.

>

> -

>

>

>

> >

> > I think it is who is doing that. He does a

> very good job of

> > maintaining the website.

> > But he may not be aware that those cases and group

> posts are cached

> > by Google from his homepage - I think he was

> indexing them for his

> > own use. In any case, I will ask him to remove

> the email addresses

> > so that they ae anonymous.

> >

> > It appears as though Yahoo group messages are not

> indexed by Google.

> >

> > Vornan

>

>

>

>

>

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I want my doctor to suffer too after what he has done to me.

How did you get them to lose their job ? or did they lose their

licence ? My doc gave me free samples of Zoloft instead of the

precription so He can make me visit him more often, I hate that SOB.

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I am very interested in hearing how to get the doctor who prescribed

me Prozac FIRED. I want his career as a doctor to come to an end. I

want his life to be spent mopping the floor at the local Walmart.

(Sorry to all those group members who are currently mopping the floor

at their local Walmart due to losing their jobs because of chaos the

SSRIs inflicted on their brains.)

>

> I want my doctor to suffer too after what he has done to me.

> How did you get them to lose their job ? or did they lose their

> licence ? My doc gave me free samples of Zoloft instead of the

> precription so He can make me visit him more often, I hate that SOB.

>

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Aloha All!

Agreed!

When I " discovered " on my own that it was the SSRI for the most part

(I used to blame the high doses of opiates I take for pain for my

sexual dysfunction(s)) that caused my libido to drop to practically

zero and my Total " T " to be at 84 instead of low/normal of 290, I was

furious with my shrink. Unfortunately, since my pain management doc

retired last February, he is the ONLY Doctor on this island that will

write my prescriptions for my pain meds. Sheesh! I can't win!

you poor soul! Having to inject something directly INTO your

penis in order to achieve an erection???? I've never heard of that

before! What's the name of the drug you used or use? That's one of

the strangest ways (not to mention most painful ways) to get an

erection I've EVER HEARD OF! MY GOSH!

Hey, , feel free to use any portion or all of any post I make

here. I'm 51, happily married and now have a great sex life. It isn't

like I'm worried about getting 'any' in the future. If my wife dies

prematurely, well, I've heard of some interesting devices out there

for guys...LOL!

Seriously, feel free to put my posts on Times Square if you want to.

Aloha for now,

Hawaiian Wayne

>

> >

> >

> > I appreciate your point about not wanting your

> > email address

> > disclosed on the net but as far as informing people

> > about PSSD goes

> > i hope the poster carries on.

> >

> > Why should any of us be embarassed and hide our

> > stories away about

> > how we were violated by psychiatry?Its the medical

> > `professionals`

> > who need to lower their heads in shame.

> >

> > I recently made a formal complaint about the doctor

> > who first

> > pressured me into taking Prozac when i had just

> > turned 18.This was

> > because, without consulting me and going against the

> > prescription

> > the urologist had originally done out for me,he

> > decided that i

> > should only be able to receive caverjet once a week

> > and thought i

> > should have the pleasure of injecting myself in the

> > penis to obtain

> > a proper erection once a week only.

> >

> > (G.P`S in England get bonus awards in their pay

> > packages not just

> > from pharmaceuticals for pushing their drugs but for

> > saving

> > prescription costs on the national health service.)

> >

> >

> > Anyway when i complained about him and how he has

> > persistently tried

> > to mask my impotence as a sympton of mental illness

> > despite the fact

> > that other medical professionals have stated Prozac

> > as the cause he

> > sent a letter back appologising and saying that he

> > prescribed Prozac

> > to me only because a psychiatrist had recommended

> > so.

> >

> > What he is hoping i dont make issue of is how that

> > psychiatrist was

> > only referred to because he wanted the approval to

> > drug me with

> > Prozac from him.

> >

> > This doctor was very condenscending and intollerant

> > towards me as a

> > teenager and used to say to me " so do you expect to

> > never work? "

> > and " if you want to be treated you have to

> > co-operate with the

> > treatment that i offer you " when i was a teenager

> > who d dropped out

> > of school due to classroom anxiety,was lacking

> > direction and was

> > living in a difficult home environment.

> >

> > He now wants to completely change his tune and

> > distance himself from

> > the decision to poison me with prozac which was

> > his.What he doesnt

> > know is i have medical records that show how he

> > described me

> > as " lazing around " during the day, (which was

> > nonsense i was

> > studying at home) and this reflects his attitude of

> > contempt towards

> > me.He will be inevitably making more appologies when

> > i quote him

> > some recorded information.

> >

> > Id recommend that other people use the freedom of

> > information act

> > to obtain their medical records and see what fiction

> > their doctor

> > might have written about them to justify giving them

> > pills to

> > rectify chemical imbalances that no ones proven the

> > existence of.

> >

> > It is not good enough for doctors to say that they

> > have acted within

> > their approved code of practice when they hand out

> > psychiatric

> > drugs like smarties.They should be made personally

> > responsible for

> > the gamble they took with our health and how they

> > wrote us off as

> > people to `trial` drugs on without any (proper)

> > warning about the

> > dangers we were being subjected to.

> >

> >

> > Should we care about our stories being told on the

> > internet?I dont

> > want to sound like im telling other people how to

> > feel but i believe

> > the answer is " no " .We re just names on a screen

> > that dont mean

> > anything to the people reading and your name might

> > as well be anyone

> > elses for all it matters.

> >

> >

> > Personally id rather go on TV and talk about this

> > openly than let

> > drug companies continue to ruin peoples lives

> > banking on

> > embarassment as assurance that people wont come

> > foward in numbers

> > strong enough to expose the sickening damage they

> > are doing to

> > people.

> >

> >

> > If we were all more pro-active we would probably

> > speed up the whole

> > process and get some questions answered about PSSD

> > sooner.For

> > example the depression alliance in England say on

> > their website that

> > they are open to people volunteering to become case

> > studies over

> > whatever experience of psychiatric drugs they have

> > undergone.

> >

> >

> >

> http://www.depressionalliance.org/docs/contact_us/contact_us.html

> >

> >

> > I wrote to them a week ago informing them about PSSD

> > and hope they

> > will offer something to help us spread awareness.I

> > dont care about

> > my name being put around i just want the drugs that

> > have robbed so

> > many people of their health to stop being put around

> > as safe forms

> > of medication.

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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