Guest guest Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 Le Roy girls Are they suffering from a new vaccine yet to be perfected? Regard the initial work on the flu vaccine. The flu vaccine When was the flu vaccine developed? An excellent timeline for vaccines is here: http://www.historyofvaccines.org/content/timelines/all It appears that the flu vaccine is so well hidden there is no mention of its use in 1918/1919. No mention of its re-development in 1945. Nor mention of the use of it in 2009. There is a mention for 1976 and the link to Guillain Barré Syndrome (GBS) but immediately links its cause to bacteria. Also in 1957 there is mention to a flu vaccine and its production in four months. Two million died from this illness. In the USA 70 000 died. So how do they maintain the figures for death in present day flu vaccine campaigns? The history seems to puzzle even those who follow the history of this means of health care. Todays methods are clearly explained in simple pictures here: http://www.aimtoolkit.org/influenza/Edu_Annual_flu_Vax_Production_Timeline.pdf Wiki provides lots of information On INFLUENZA http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza The most famous and lethal outbreak was the 1918 flu pandemic (Spanish flu pandemic) (type A influenza, H1N1 subtype), which lasted from 1918 to 1919. It is not known exactly how many it killed, but estimates range from 20 to 100 million people.[162][163] This pandemic has been described as "the greatest medical holocaust in history" and may have killed as many people as the Black Death.[159] This huge death toll was caused by an extremely high infection rate of up to 50% and the extreme severity of the symptoms, suspected to be caused by cytokine storms.[163] Indeed, symptoms in 1918 were so unusual that initially influenza was misdiagnosed as dengue, cholera, or typhoid. One observer wrote, "One of the most striking of the complications was hemorrhage frommucous membranes, especially from the nose, stomach, and intestine. Bleeding from the ears and petechial hemorrhages in the skin also occurred."[162] The majority of deaths were from bacterial pneumonia, a secondary infection caused by influenza, but the virus also killed people directly, causing massive hemorrhages and edema in the lung.[164] The 1918 flu pandemic (Spanish flu pandemic) was truly global, spreading even to the Arctic and remote Pacific islands. The unusually severe disease killed between 2 and 20% of those infected, as opposed to the more usual flu epidemic mortality rate of 0.1%.[155][162] Another unusual feature of this pandemic was that it mostly killed young adults, with 99% of pandemic influenza deaths occurring in people under 65, and more than half in young adults 20 to 40 years old.[165] This is unusual since influenza is normally most deadly to the very young (under age 2) and the very old (over age 70). The total mortality of the 1918–1919 pandemic is not known, but it is estimated that 2.5% to 5% of the world's population was killed. As many as 25 million may have been killed in the first 25 weeks; in contrast, HIV/AIDS has killed 25 million in its first 25 years.[162] The first significant step towards preventing influenza was the development in 1944 of a killed-virus vaccine for influenza by Francis, Jr.. This built on work by Australian Macfarlane Burnet, who showed that the virus lost virulence when it was cultured in fertilized hen's eggs.[174]Application of this observation by Francis allowed his group of researchers at the University of Michigan to develop the first influenza vaccine, with support from the U.S. Army.[175] The Army was deeply involved in this research due to its experience of influenza in World War I, when thousands of troops were killed by the virus in a matter of months.[162] This next again conflicts with known timelines for vaccines. Perhaps to avoid the obvious. New vaccines usually involve some COLLATERAL DAMAGE until the experts get the methods and production sorted out. But the first development of vaccines for influenza et al also coincided with a rather high number of dead people. Something not seen before or since in our vaccine history. http://explorevaccines.wordpress.com/2008/08/29/a-vaccine-timeline-the-global-experiment/ 1917 U.S. soldiers are vaccinated prior to going overseas to fight in WW I. They soon begin to drop dead by the thousands from a strange syndrome that preferentially attacks young adults. 1918 “The Pandemic of Influenza in 1918-1919†prepared by the US Department of Health, Education and Welfare Public Health Service National Office of Vital Statistics indicates that the extraordinary feature of “the Great Spanish flu†was that it attacked young people in the prime of life unlike any other epidemics recorded: “The pandemic of influenza in 1918-19 which swept over nearly every continent and island of the whole globe has been described as one of the great human catastrophies. There are excellent descriptions of epidemics and pandemics as far back as the year 1500, and various records of epidemics since the 1918-19 holocaust. Many of them were relatively mild infections, while others were severe, but none of them showed the extraordinary high mortality in young adults that characterized the 1918-19 pandemic and its aftermath in 1920. The greatest amount of mortality in epidemics prior to and subsequent to 1918-19 was found in children under 1 year of age and in persons 65 years and over.†“Frost, in one of his reports, pointed out that influenza and pneumonia mortality rose sharply in some cities in the United States in December 1915 and January 1916, which may or may not have been related to the 1918 epidemic. In January 1916, influenza was s reported to be epidemic in 22 States, but it was described as a mild type of illness.†The 1918-19 epidemic was often referred to in the United States as “Spanish influenza,†but there is no reason to believe that it originated in Spain. Indeed the occurrence of influenza in the United States in the spring of 1918 may have preceded that which occurred in Spain.†It has been estimated that there were about 20,000,000 cases of influenza and pneumonia in the United States in 1918-19, with approximately 850,000 deaths. In 1918 alone, 464,959 deaths from influenza and pneumonia were registered in the registration States and the District of Columbia as compared with 115,526 in 1917. “It was the impression of many in 1918 that an unrecognized virus was the primary cause of influenza and that the streptococci, pneumococci, and influenza bacilli were secondary invaders which might be termed “bacterial hitch-hikers.â€Attempts by two groups of investigators to transmit the infection by nasal instillation of filtered and unfiltered secretions from influenza cases in human volunteers were not successful. Nor could they produce influenza in the volunteers by nasal instillations with Pfeiffer bacilli.†If a vaccine containing the viruses now known to cause the disease had been made available early in the epidemic, it is doubtful whether it would have been effective, since the epidemic in the fall of 1918 spread with great rapidity.†Pathologists became intimately familiar with the condition of lungs of victims of bacterial pneumonia at autopsy. But the viral pneumonias caused by the influenza pandemic were so violent that many investigators said the only lungs they had seen that resembled them were from victims of poison gas. THE USE OF INFLUENZA VACCINE IN THE PRESENT EPIDEMIC. Leary.Am J Public Health (N Y). 1918 October; 8(10): 754-755, 768. 1919 PRESENT STATUS OF PNEUMOCOCCUS VACCINE. L. Cecil. Am J Public Health (N Y). 1919 August; 9(8): 589–592. ‘ …some experiments with a pneumococcus vaccine, and, after consultation with Dr. Rufus Cole of the Rockefeller Institute, it was decided to prepare a vaccine, type I, II and III pneumococcus, in approximately equal parts, and to inoculate about 50 per cent of the camp with this vaccine. Twelve thousand five hundred and nineteen men were vaccinated at Camp Upton (about 40 per cent of the camp strength)…The local and general reactions were usually mild, but there were quite a few small, sterile, infiltrations at the site of the injection which appeared to be an expression of pneumococcus susceptibility. In spite of the successful results obtained at Camp Upton, there was certain objection to pneumococcus vaccine which interfered somewhat with its extensive use. In the first place, three injections were necessary in order to obtain a satisfactory immunity, and this for obvious reasons was burdensome to the regimental surgeons and to the men themselves, who had already received typhoid and smallpox vaccine. Another objection to pneumococcus vaccine was the occurrence of small sterile infiltrations which sometimes followed its use…this commission was directed to proceed to Camp Wheeler, Georgia, for the purpose of instituting voluntary vaccination among the troops. In this experiment we decided to substitute a pneumococcus lipovaccine for the saline vaccine which we had used at Camp Upton. This vaccine was prepared for us by Col. E.’ R. Whitmore of the Army Medical School, and the dose finally adopted after some preliminary experiments was 30 billion pneumococci (10 billion of each of the fixed types in one cc. of oil). Pneumococcus vaccine, however, produces at best only a moderate degree of protection and probably affords very little cross immunity. Pneumonia rarely occurs as an epidemic scourge like-smallpox so there would be difficulty in having vaccination against pneumonia made compulsory. People do not fear the disease and are, therefore, unwilling to submit to the inconvenience of being vaccinated. An experiment is being carried out at the present time by the United States Public Health Service in the insane asylums of New York State, which should give some very interesting results. Another TIMELINE fro vaccines is here: http://barbfeick.com/vaccinations/allergy/402-allergy_timeline.htm A very simple TIMELINE: Again mentions the 1945 start for the flu vaccine and NOT the debacle around 1918 / 1919. Or more complete: http://www.immunize.org/timeline/ The BMJ clearly records the production of POLYVALENT flu vaccine in 1918 by Wellcome and Co. The USA as indicated above were mass vaccinating all their soldiers for everything imaginable and possible. Add to this the million of pounds of NERVE DESTROYING chemical agents used in North Europe and the subsequent world wide dispersion together with mass vaccine campaigns and we have a RECIPE for more deaths in peacetime than EVER during 4 years of WORLD WAR 1918 style. The flu vaccine was developed and MASSIVELY used in the 1918 – 1919 influenza outbreak and by any logic DID NOT work. How much damage did it do? And why is this part of VACCINE HISTORY clinically, surgically and totally removed from most TIMELINES of our vaccine history? When was the flu vaccine developed? The flu vaccine Perspective here http://www.nejm.org/doi/pdf/10.1056/NEJMp058068 Are the Le Roy girls having similar teething problems to GARDASIL a very new and troublesome vaccine with a lot of anecdtotal evidence all is not quite right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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