Guest guest Posted December 26, 2011 Report Share Posted December 26, 2011 In a local magazine listing monthly activities for families, there was an article about SIDS and sleeping position, and within the body of the article it states, " According to the AAP, immunization reduces the risk of SIDS by 50%.""We're not sure why vaccination is protective," says Dr. Nauert. "It could be that the antibodies that are in the vaccine are protective. Or it could be that kids who are vaccinated are healthier in other ways to begin with. There's ongoing research to try and find the reason."Is that stat completely just pulled from the collective butt of the AAP or is there some kind of study they are trying to base that on? ? Because frankly I would bet the farm that vaccines are actually a major SIDS contributor, and certainly not a protector. Just wondering where this outrageous statement even came from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2011 Report Share Posted December 26, 2011 I completely agree with you , Alison Macneil immunizations and SIDS In a local magazine listing monthly activities for families, there was an article about SIDS and sleeping position, and within the body of the article it states, " According to the AAP, immunization reduces the risk of SIDS by 50%.""We're not sure why vaccination is protective," says Dr. Nauert. "It could be that the antibodies that are in the vaccine are protective. Or it could be that kids who are vaccinated are healthier in other ways to begin with. There's ongoing research to try and find the reason."Is that stat completely just pulled from the collective butt of the AAP or is there some kind of study they are trying to base that on? ? Because frankly I would bet the farm that vaccines are actually a major SIDS contributor, and certainly not a protector. Just wondering where this outrageous statement even came from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2011 Report Share Posted December 26, 2011 came from the collective butts of the AAP just like the 36,000 or 48,000 or perhaps the 120,000 that will die from the flu this year that comes from the collective butts of the CDC. I love that expression. M To: "EOHarm " <EOHarm > Sent: Monday, December 26, 2011 2:08 PMSubject: immunizations and SIDS In a local magazine listing monthly activities for families, there was an article about SIDS and sleeping position, and within the body of the article it states, " According to the AAP, immunization reduces the risk of SIDS by 50%." "We're not sure why vaccination is protective," says Dr. Nauert. "It could be that the antibodies that are in the vaccine are protective. Or it could be that kids who are vaccinated are healthier in other ways to begin with. There's ongoing research to try and find the reason." Is that stat completely just pulled from the collective butt of the AAP or is there some kind of study they are trying to base that on? ? Because frankly I would bet the farm that vaccines are actually a major SIDS contributor, and certainly not a protector. Just wondering where this outrageous statement even came from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2011 Report Share Posted December 26, 2011 Then is it sleeping position or vaccination? There are probably just guessing on both! Janet, R.N.,M.Ed. In a local magazine listing monthly activities for families, there was an article about SIDS and sleeping position, and within the body of the article it states, " According to the AAP, immunization reduces the risk of SIDS by 50%. " " We're not sure why vaccination is protective, " says Dr. Nauert. " It could be that the antibodies that are in the vaccine are protective. Or it could be that kids who are vaccinated are healthier in other ways to begin with. There's ongoing research to try and find the reason. " Is that stat completely just pulled from the collective butt of the AAP or is there some kind of study they are trying to base that on? ? Because frankly I would bet the farm that vaccines are actually a major SIDS contributor, and certainly not a protector. Just wondering where this outrageous statement even came from. -- Janet Presson, R.N., M.Ed. President A Small Miracle, Inc. www.asmallmiracleinc.com -- This electronic message (e-mail) and any documents accompanying this message may contain confidential information that is privileged. This information is intended only for the use of the recipient named above. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by telephone at 1- to arrange for return of the documents to us and you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copy, distribution, or taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2011 Report Share Posted December 27, 2011 two of my 2 kids have had sids events one was vaxed one was not LOL so who knows ! http://www.discoverytoyslink.com/ginagonzalezGINA ! MOM TO one smart intelligent young lady KATEE JULY 1990 NATURAL Birth in a hospital and 4 Smart cookies ! ALEX OCTOBER 2001 Induced labor 28 hours on Pitocine no Epidural Crash C/S under general placental abruption gee I wonder why after 28 hours of Pitocine SIMON DECEMBER 2004 VBAC long labor posterior born at home LYNZEE AUGUST 2006 VBAC 5 hours of labor perfect homebirth ! JONATHAN OCTOBER 2008 HOME BIRTH IN WATER ! and 4 we will miss forever "Optimism is the faith that leads to achievement. Nothing can be done without hope and confidence." Helen KellerUS blind & deaf educator (1880 - 1968) Subject: immunizations and SIDSTo: "EOHarm " <EOHarm >Date: Monday, December 26, 2011, 2:08 PM In a local magazine listing monthly activities for families, there was an article about SIDS and sleeping position, and within the body of the article it states, " According to the AAP, immunization reduces the risk of SIDS by 50%." "We're not sure why vaccination is protective," says Dr. Nauert. "It could be that the antibodies that are in the vaccine are protective. Or it could be that kids who are vaccinated are healthier in other ways to begin with. There's ongoing research to try and find the reason." Is that stat completely just pulled from the collective butt of the AAP or is there some kind of study they are trying to base that on? ? Because frankly I would bet the farm that vaccines are actually a major SIDS contributor, and certainly not a protector. Just wondering where this outrageous statement even came from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2011 Report Share Posted December 27, 2011 BTW both lived because I saved them with CPR and called 911 http://www.discoverytoyslink.com/ginagonzalezGINA ! MOM TO one smart intelligent young lady KATEE JULY 1990 NATURAL Birth in a hospital and 4 Smart cookies ! ALEX OCTOBER 2001 Induced labor 28 hours on Pitocine no Epidural Crash C/S under general placental abruption gee I wonder why after 28 hours of Pitocine SIMON DECEMBER 2004 VBAC long labor posterior born at home LYNZEE AUGUST 2006 VBAC 5 hours of labor perfect homebirth ! JONATHAN OCTOBER 2008 HOME BIRTH IN WATER ! and 4 we will miss forever "Optimism is the faith that leads to achievement. Nothing can be done without hope and confidence." Helen KellerUS blind & deaf educator (1880 - 1968) Subject: immunizations and SIDSTo: "EOHarm " <EOHarm >Date: Monday, December 26, 2011, 2:08 PM In a local magazine listing monthly activities for families, there was an article about SIDS and sleeping position, and within the body of the article it states, " According to the AAP, immunization reduces the risk of SIDS by 50%." "We're not sure why vaccination is protective," says Dr. Nauert. "It could be that the antibodies that are in the vaccine are protective. Or it could be that kids who are vaccinated are healthier in other ways to begin with. There's ongoing research to try and find the reason." Is that stat completely just pulled from the collective butt of the AAP or is there some kind of study they are trying to base that on? ? Because frankly I would bet the farm that vaccines are actually a major SIDS contributor, and certainly not a protector. Just wondering where this outrageous statement even came from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2011 Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 much showing connection of SIDS to vaccination my pages http://www.wellwithin1.com/SIDS.htm No SIDS ever mentioned before vaccines of 40s/50s Sheri Then is it sleeping position or vaccination? There are probably just guessing on both! Janet, R.N.,M.Ed. On 12/26/11 2:08 PM, " Elsass " wrote: In a local magazine listing monthly activities for families, there was an article about SIDS and sleeping position, and within the body of the article it states, " According to the AAP, immunization reduces the risk of SIDS by 50%. " " We're not sure why vaccination is protective, " says Dr. Nauert. " It could be that the antibodies that are in the vaccine are protective. Or it could be that kids who are vaccinated are healthier in other ways to begin with. There's ongoing research to try and find the reason. " Is that stat completely just pulled from the collective butt of the AAP or is there some kind of study they are trying to base that on? ? Because frankly I would bet the farm that vaccines are actually a major SIDS contributor, and certainly not a protector. Just wondering where this outrageous statement even came from. -- Janet Presson, R.N., M.Ed. President A Small Miracle, Inc. www.asmallmiracleinc.com -- This electronic message (e-mail) and any documents accompanying this message may contain confidential information that is privileged. This information is intended only for the use of the recipient named above. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by telephone at 1- to arrange for return of the documents to us and you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copy, distribution, or taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2011 Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 sids events? SIDS is death Sheri you wrote: two of my 2 kids have had sids events one was vaxed one was not LOL so who knows ! http://www.discoverytoyslink.com/ginagonzalez GINA ! MOM TO one smart intelligent young lady KATEE JULY 1990 NATURAL Birth in a hospital and 4 Smart cookies ! ALEX OCTOBER 2001 Induced labor 28 hours on Pitocine no Epidural Crash C/S under general placental abruption gee I wonder why after 28 hours of Pitocine SIMON DECEMBER 2004 VBAC long labor posterior born at home LYNZEE AUGUST 2006 VBAC 5 hours of labor perfect homebirth ! JONATHAN OCTOBER 2008 HOME BIRTH IN WATER ! and 4 we will miss forever " Optimism is the faith that leads to achievement. Nothing can be done without hope and confidence. " Helen Keller US blind & deaf educator (1880 - 1968) Subject: immunizations and SIDS To: " EOHarm " <EOHarm > Date: Monday, December 26, 2011, 2:08 PM In a local magazine listing monthly activities for families, there was an article about SIDS and sleeping position, and within the body of the article it states, " According to the AAP, immunization reduces the risk of SIDS by 50%. " " We're not sure why vaccination is protective, " says Dr. Nauert. " It could be that the antibodies that are in the vaccine are protective. Or it could be that kids who are vaccinated are healthier in other ways to begin with. There's ongoing research to try and find the reason. " Is that stat completely just pulled from the collective butt of the AAP or is there some kind of study they are trying to base that on? ? Because frankly I would bet the farm that vaccines are actually a major SIDS contributor, and certainly not a protector. Just wondering where this outrageous statement even came from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2011 Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 SIDS = Sudden Infant Death Syndrome. This is not any sort of dread disease, but is a catch-all category, unfortunately, for things that infants may drop dead from in their infancy, that cannot be easily explained, as no-one wants to get anywhere near the topic of vaccine injuries. When infants are having problems soon after their vaccinations, the vaccines need to be examined. Those of us who have been here for a longer time, may be choosing against any sort of vaccination for our own kids. Aasa From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of Sheri NakkenSent: December-27-11 8:24 PMTo: EOHarm Subject: Re: immunizations and SIDS sids events?SIDS is deathSheri you wrote:two of my 2 kids have had sids events one was vaxed one was not LOL so who knows ! http://www.discoverytoyslink.com/ginagonzalezGINA !MOM TO one smart intelligent young lady KATEE JULY 1990 NATURAL Birth in a hospital and 4 Smart cookies ! ALEX OCTOBER 2001 Induced labor 28 hours on Pitocine no Epidural Crash C/S under general placental abruption gee I wonder why after 28 hours of Pitocine SIMON DECEMBER 2004 VBAC long labor posterior born at home LYNZEE AUGUST 2006 VBAC 5 hours of labor perfect homebirth ! JONATHAN OCTOBER 2008 HOME BIRTH IN WATER ! and 4 we will miss forever " Optimism is the faith that leads to achievement. Nothing can be done without hope and confidence. " Helen Keller US blind & deaf educator (1880 - 1968) Subject: immunizations and SIDSTo: " EOHarm " <EOHarm >Date: Monday, December 26, 2011, 2:08 PM In a local magazine listing monthly activities for families, there was an article about SIDS and sleeping position, and within the body of the article it states, " According to the AAP, immunization reduces the risk of SIDS by 50%. " " We're not sure why vaccination is protective, " says Dr. Nauert. " It could be that the antibodies that are in the vaccine are protective. Or it could be that kids who are vaccinated are healthier in other ways to begin with. There's ongoing research to try and find the reason. " Is that stat completely just pulled from the collective butt of the AAP or is there some kind of study they are trying to base that on? ? Because frankly I would bet the farm that vaccines are actually a major SIDS contributor, and certainly not a protector. Just wondering where this outrageous statement even came from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2011 Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 All, If you want the truth, simple go to: http://www.wellwithin1.com/SIDS.htm and read the facts posted there. Moreover, it appears that the new Pfizer Prevnar® [aka Prevenar] 13 that has replaced the older Prevnar® [aka Prevenar] apparently doubles the SIDS rate as stated here: 101203 The new pneumococcal vaccine seems to be doubling the Sudden Infant Death rate according to the American Academy of Pediatrics 1 http://www.theoneclickgroup.co.uk/news.php?start=4220 & end=4240 & view=yes & id=5618#\ newspost Dr. Rajiv Mittal MBBS A-148, FF, Saraswati Vihar Delhi-110034 India The new pneumococcal vaccine seems to be doubling the Sudden Infant Death rate (SIDS rate) according to the American Academy of Pediatrics (1). SIDS : PCV13 (0.063%) PCV7 recipients (0.036%). (Increase in mortality 0.03%) Numbers are small (only 4700 were studied with another 2000 controls). But these are the numbers on which the recommendation to give the vaccine is based. Let us look at this against mortality in the US from pneumonia. Post neonatal mortality is approx 0.2% (2). About 3% of the mortality at this age is due to pneumonia (including viral pneumonias) (3). About half of these deaths are due to Pneumococcal pneumonia but for purposes of this calculation I am being generous and assuming that all pneumonia is due to Pneumoccus and it causes 3% of the mortality at this age. This means that deaths from pneumonia in infancy in the USA is 0.006% The increase in deaths from SIDS due to the change from PCV 7 to PCV 13, in [sic; is] 5 fold higher than the chance of death from pneumonia. In other words, if these figures for mortality are the same when the sample size is bigger, 5 children will die of SIDS due to the vaccine, for 1 child protected from death of pneumonia,by the vaccine. Reference 1. American Academy of Pediatrics. Committee on Infectious Diseases. Policy statement: recommendations for the prevention of pneumococcal infections, including the use of pneumococcal conjugate vaccine (Prevnar), pneumococcal polysaccharide vaccine, and antibiotic prophylaxis. Pediatrics. 2000 Aug;106(2 Pt 1):362-6. 2. http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/death/infant.htm 3.http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/p/pneumonia/deaths.htm Thus, the recent article is obvious Orwellian Newspeak where black is white and the written " lies " are the Establishment's " truth " . Obviously before we started vaccinating for diphtheria, tetanus and pertussis in the late 1940s and 1950s, there was no such thing as SIDS. Today, SIDS, used mostly for very young children (mostly under 1 year of), and, for older children, SBS (Shaken Baby Syndrome) are the " terms of art " invented and most often used as cover labels for vaccination-related deaths because, although the science has proven vaccines are not safe for every child and that vaccination of those under 1 year of age provides near-zero long-term protection, the vaccination program acolytes dare NOT admit either truth and needlessly continue to expose children under 1 year of age to vaccines that will injure a significant number of these infants and cause the death of some such that, based on Japan, where, in average, most vaccines are delayed past 1 year, more than twice as many of our children die as do Japanese children and the money for the vaccinations given before 1 year of age is simply wasted. Yet the Establishment, which controls the mainstream press, continues to increase not only the frequency of their propaganda but also the degree to which it is at odds with the truth. May God have mercy on the souls of those who knowingly promote this obviously needless harm of our vaccine-damaged children under the false banner of protecting their health -- something that has been done so poorly that now more than 5% of our children are doomed to have at least one lifetime chronic disease and .... Please forward this message to all those who may listen. Respectfully, Dr. King http://www.dr-king.com Unworthy servant of Elohim +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Quoting Sheri Nakken : > much showing connection of SIDS to vaccination > my pages http://www.wellwithin1.com/SIDS.htm > > No SIDS ever mentioned before vaccines of 40s/50s > Sheri > > > > >Then is it sleeping position or vaccination? There are probably > >just guessing on both! > > > >Janet, R.N.,M.Ed. > > > > > >On 12/26/11 2:08 PM, " Elsass " > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > >In a local magazine listing monthly activities for families, there > >was an article about SIDS and sleeping position, and within the body > >of the article it states, " According to the AAP, immunization > >reduces the risk of SIDS by 50%. " > > " We're not sure why vaccination is protective, " says Dr. Nauert. " It > >could be that the antibodies that are in the vaccine are protective. > >Or it could be that kids who are vaccinated are healthier in other > >ways to begin with. There's ongoing research to try and find the reason. " > >Is that stat completely just pulled from the collective butt of the > >AAP or is there some kind of study they are trying to base that on? > >? Because frankly I would bet the farm that vaccines are actually a > >major SIDS contributor, and certainly not a protector. Just > >wondering where this outrageous statement even came from. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > >Janet Presson, R.N., M.Ed. > >President > >A Small Miracle, Inc. > > > >www.asmallmiracleinc.com > > > > > >-- This electronic message (e-mail) and any documents accompanying this > >message may contain confidential information that is privileged. This > >information is intended only for the use of the recipient named above. If > >you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by > >telephone at 1- to arrange for return of the documents to us and > >you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copy, distribution, or taking > >of any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly > >prohibited. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2011 Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 ALL, The " more than 5% " is a very conservative figure, based on the 2006 NHANES study, actually > 25% of children in the USA will have ar least one lifetime chronic disease. Regards, Dr. King, http://www.dr-king.com ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Quoting " G. King " : > All, > > > If you want the truth, simple go to: > > http://www.wellwithin1.com/SIDS.htm > > and read the facts posted there. > > > Moreover, it appears that the new Pfizer Prevnar® > [aka Prevenar] 13 that has replaced the older > Prevnar® [aka Prevenar] apparently doubles the > SIDS rate as stated here: > > 101203 The new pneumococcal vaccine seems to be doubling > the Sudden Infant Death rate according to the > American Academy of Pediatrics 1 > > http://www.theoneclickgroup.co.uk/news.php?start=4220 & end=4240 & view=yes & id=5618#\ newspost > Dr. Rajiv Mittal MBBS > A-148, FF, Saraswati Vihar > Delhi-110034 > India > The new pneumococcal vaccine seems to be doubling > the Sudden Infant Death rate (SIDS rate) > according to the American Academy of Pediatrics (1). > SIDS : > PCV13 (0.063%) > PCV7 recipients (0.036%). > (Increase in mortality 0.03%) > > Numbers are small (only 4700 were studied with another 2000 controls). > But these are the numbers on which the recommendation to give the > vaccine is based. > > Let us look at this against mortality in the US from pneumonia. > Post neonatal mortality is approx 0.2% (2). About 3% of the > mortality at this age is due to pneumonia (including viral pneumonias) (3). > About half of these deaths are due to Pneumococcal pneumonia but for > purposes of this calculation I am being generous and assuming that all > pneumonia is due to Pneumoccus and it causes 3% of the mortality at > this age. > > This means that deaths from pneumonia in infancy in the USA is 0.006% > The increase in deaths from SIDS due to the change from PCV 7 to PCV 13, > in [sic; is] 5 fold higher than the chance of death from pneumonia. > > In other words, if these figures for mortality are the same when the > sample size is bigger, 5 children will die of SIDS due to the vaccine, > for 1 child protected from death of pneumonia,by the vaccine. > > Reference > 1. American Academy of Pediatrics. Committee on Infectious Diseases. Policy statement: > recommendations for the prevention of pneumococcal infections, including the use of pneumococcal > conjugate vaccine (Prevnar), pneumococcal polysaccharide vaccine, and antibiotic prophylaxis. > Pediatrics. 2000 Aug;106(2 Pt 1):362-6. > 2. http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/death/infant.htm > 3.http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/p/pneumonia/deaths.htm > > > Thus, the recent article is obvious Orwellian Newspeak where > black is white and the written " lies " are the Establishment's > " truth " . > > > Obviously before we started vaccinating for diphtheria, > tetanus and pertussis in the late 1940s and 1950s, there was > no such thing as SIDS. > > > Today, SIDS, used mostly for very young children (mostly under > 1 year of), and, for older children, SBS (Shaken Baby > Syndrome) are the " terms of art " invented and most often used > as cover labels for vaccination-related deaths because, although > the science has proven vaccines are not safe for every child and > that vaccination of those under 1 year of age provides near-zero > long-term protection, the vaccination program acolytes dare NOT > admit either truth and needlessly continue to expose children > under 1 year of age to vaccines that will injure a significant > number of these infants and cause the death of some such that, > based on Japan, where, in average, most vaccines are delayed > past 1 year, more than twice as many of our children die as do > Japanese children and the money for the vaccinations given > before 1 year of age is simply wasted. > > > Yet the Establishment, which controls the mainstream press, > continues to increase not only the frequency of their propaganda > but also the degree to which it is at odds with the truth. > > > May God have mercy on the souls of those who knowingly promote > this obviously needless harm of our vaccine-damaged children > under the false banner of protecting their health -- something > that has been done so poorly that now more than 5% of our > children are doomed to have at least one lifetime chronic > disease and .... > > > Please forward this message to all those who may listen. > > > Respectfully, > > Dr. King > http://www.dr-king.com > > > Unworthy servant of Elohim > > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Quoting Sheri Nakken : > > > much showing connection of SIDS to vaccination > > my pages http://www.wellwithin1.com/SIDS.htm > > > > No SIDS ever mentioned before vaccines of 40s/50s > > Sheri > > > > > > > > >Then is it sleeping position or vaccination? There are probably > > >just guessing on both! > > > > > >Janet, R.N.,M.Ed. > > > > > > > > >On 12/26/11 2:08 PM, " Elsass " > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >In a local magazine listing monthly activities for families, there > > >was an article about SIDS and sleeping position, and within the body > > >of the article it states, " According to the AAP, immunization > > >reduces the risk of SIDS by 50%. " > > > " We're not sure why vaccination is protective, " says Dr. Nauert. " It > > >could be that the antibodies that are in the vaccine are protective. > > >Or it could be that kids who are vaccinated are healthier in other > > >ways to begin with. There's ongoing research to try and find the reason. " > > >Is that stat completely just pulled from the collective butt of the > > >AAP or is there some kind of study they are trying to base that on? > > >? Because frankly I would bet the farm that vaccines are actually a > > >major SIDS contributor, and certainly not a protector. Just > > >wondering where this outrageous statement even came from. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > >Janet Presson, R.N., M.Ed. > > >President > > >A Small Miracle, Inc. > > > > > >www.asmallmiracleinc.com > > > > > > > > >-- This electronic message (e-mail) and any documents accompanying this > > >message may contain confidential information that is privileged. This > > >information is intended only for the use of the recipient named above. If > > >you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by > > >telephone at 1- to arrange for return of the documents to us and > > >you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copy, distribution, or taking > > >of any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly > > >prohibited. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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