Re: this is so big that I don't think you are all getting it yet-Eileen Dannemann, so I repeat.

[Guest guest]

does anyone know a lab that does this test in the US? this is so big that I don't think you are all "getting it" yet-Eileen Dannemann, so I repeat. and what about the tylenol that is given before and after vaccines (whichdepletes glutathione from liver, which is necessary for detox)?SheriDr. Yolande Lucire is in our network. She is a foresensicpsychiatrist, Phd researcher in pharmacogenetics. She basicallysaved my son Dannemann who was misdiagnosed as bipolar afterexperimenting with LSD at 19 years old. He was in and out of theUniversity of Iowa psyche ward; given drugs like Haldol, Tradazone,Adavan....all requiring the gene Cytochrome P450 2D6 to metabolize. For years he was being dumbed down and made incoherent until Dr. Lucirefacilitated a simple gene test (swabbing the mouth). He was indeedmissing all 2D6 activity and therefore was being poisoned and havingsuicidal ideations, being arrested, thrown into the psyche wards. He is now recovering by withdrawing all prescription drugs....thanks toDr. Lucire.The interesting thing I found was that the glutathione pathway implicatedin vaccine injury/ Autism Spectrum is found on the same cytochrome450. Vaccines are so toxic that if someone is a poor metabolizerthey will sustain a vaccine injury; then get misdiagosed as ADHD, ADD,etc and then given harmful life debilitating drugs. Why this is so HUGE...is because all of us know people whoare taking anti depressants, SSRIs, and ADHD medication, especially thekids these days. Special needs education is at an all timehigh!Kids who do street drugs to experiment like did and are missingtheir 2D6 activity...act so strange that invariably the parent takes themto the Doctor and they get their own prescription. And then they getworse, apparently more psychotic, but that is because they have nometabolic activity. As they appear more psychotic they get more ofa cocktail of drugs and their lives go down hill. This goes fordepressed adults too.Education and a standard of care protocol to test a person before givingvaccines or psyche drugs has been suppressed in the medical industry andto the public. Homicides, suicides are moving upward at an alarmingrate. Some drugs (and far from how many should be) are labled assuicidal. That is because a substantial percentage of people who aretaking these drugs are poor metabolizers. Look at this link and on the Mayo clinic link- as much as 50% ofthe psyche drugs need 2D6 to metabolize. This is a pharma-medicalcoverup of an egregious kinds. There is also a list of the drugs thatmust be metabolized by 2D6.Missing 2D6 is not a debility. I believe it is an evolutionaryissue. 30% of Tanzanian Africans have evolved to havemultiple 2D6 because they eat a lot of weeds as growing food is difficultin that area. So they are basically eating alot of sourcemedication. They have become ULTRA RAPID METABOLIZERS.Those who are found to be poor metabolizers, missing 2D6 shouldnot be vaccinated; should not use street or prescription drugs;should stay away from toxic substances and eat organic food. Notice that these are the natural attitudes of the enlightened. Nature slam dunks the highly moral and spiritual when they stray from thehigh path...I think the missing 2D6 is a corresponding physical conditionof a certain spiritual proclivity and a blessing for all thoseincarnating into the greatest DRUG EPOCH in the history of mankind.If you or your loved ones are having "apparent"mental problems get tested. It cost only $290.00 at this time inAustralia at the lab Dr. Lucire uses. Read more on our siteabout 2D6, Dr. Lucire's recent published study (riveting) on homicidesand 2D6, and the Mayo Clinic: http://vaccineliberationarmy.com/?s=2D6Below read about the great australian whistleblow, Dr. Yolande Lucire whois in our network.http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=11394ON LINEopinion - Australia'se-journal of social and political debateWhistleblower in Coventry: Dr Yolande Lucire and BigPharmaBy KingPosted Monday, 20 December 2010Australia lags well behind the US and Britain in facing up to themalfeasance of multinational drug companies pushing unsafe products. Veryoften Big Pharma itself has largely conjured up the booming markets inwhich its dubious drugs offer expensive treatment for dubious medicalconditions.The biggest and most lucrative scandals have been in two types ofsecond-generation drugs: anti-depressants or SSRIs - Prozac, Paxil,Zoloft, etc, and "atypical" antipsychotics such as Zyprexa,Risperdal and Seroquel which were known from their licensing to beineffective for the vast majority of clinical trial subjects and up totwice as bad for inducing suicide as antidepressants.The corrupt drug trial and marketing practices of Big Pharma includeimaginary science (the serotonin deficiency theory of depression),systematic suppression of lethal side effects (akathisia -cannot-sit-down restlessness - leading to suicidal ideation, suicide andmurder) and a multi-billion dollar success over the past generation inmedicalising the ordinary ups and downs of the human psyche.Feeling sad? ("Moderate depression", worthy of a happy littleZoloft rock.) Diffident? ("Social anxiety disorder", tryAropax.) If antidepressants cured any significant number of people therewould be significantly less cost and less demand for mental healthservices in Australia. Whether from inadequate or tendentiouspharmacology training, laziness, busyness, greed driven by willedignorance or even misplaced conviction, the medical profession hassuccumbed to the cynical marketing and the targeted blandishments of thepharmaceutical companies.Medical and scientific journals from Nature to The New EnglandJournal of Medicine allowed their columns to be infiltrated for yearsby blatantly dishonest research reporting and ghost written articlescommissioned in Pharma-land but signed by distinguished professorsfrequently in receipt of seven-figure research and consultancy funding.Most of these journals do now take another tack, debunking Pharma claimsand exposing fraudulence. But many medical professional bodies are stillbeing subsidised beyond hope of objective dealing with the issue of massiatrogenesis caused by dud drugs andmultiple drug prescribing("polypharmacy"), and particularly with the lethal side effectsof anti-depressants.The key drug regulator in the US - and the planet - the United StatesFood and Drug Administration (US FDA) has failed to purge thePharma-friendly experts who have dominated its rulings up to now. Our ownTherapeutic Goods Administration obediently follows suit, also licensingdrugs largely on information provided by their makers. But in America thegoing has been getting perceptibly harder for the drugcompanies.Whistleblowers, class actions and litigious state governments confrontingballooning health costs have been taking a toll on profits. Pfizer wasrecently fined $US2.3 billion for fraudulently promoting four drugsincluding the "antipsychotic" Zeldox last year. This fine isseriously denting Pfizer's bottom (net income) line of $US8 billion, andwhistleblowers, including former Pfizer employees, collected over $US100million for their pains in this case - a big threat to Pharma for thefuture.Although such a fine has been described in a recent British MedicalJournal as"firing 22s into the arse of a rhino" and Pfizerhas been called "too big to nail" (only a Pfizer subsidiarypleaded guilty to criminal charges), drug companies face a rising tide ofmulti-billion dollar class actions and the prospect of new laws whichcould put them out of business. The original whistleblowers who werelistened to have made the key difference in the United States. Whitaker traced the suicide epidemic and mental health cost blow-outfollowing the launch of Prozac in 1988. The quiet Irishman, Healy,exposed drug trial fakery and the vast, hidden collateral damage ofpharma's SSRI bonanza in the 1990s and later.These two and others have engineered a paradigm shift in publicunderstanding, and professorial heads in receipt of undeclaredconsultancy riches have started to roll at research institutes anduniversities in the US, including even Harvard. According to the NewYork Times, Dr ph Biederman, the pioneer of "aggressivediagnosis and drug treatment of childhood bipolar disorder",failed toreport most of the $1.6 million he received in pharma funding overseveral years while at Harvard.The single person who has been trying hardest to fill theWhitaker/Healy whistleblower gap in Australia is Sydney psychiatrist, DrYolande Lucire. Thirteen years ago she began to notice alarminglyhigh hospital admission and suicide rates among patients treated withSSRIs and atypical antipsychotics in New South Wales's Greater SouthernArea Health Service. Since then she has been fighting back against thePharma-driven psychiatric consensus that treating with SSRIs is safe andeffective, working hard to wean patient-victims as well as theirprescribers off the drugs.She has steadily accumulated damning statistics on suicide, homicideand hospitalisation rates among these patients in New South Wales.More recently it has become clear that a large percentage of people beingtreated with antidepressants can't metabolise them due to common geneticmutations. Dr Lucire has been campaigning to introduce systematic doctoreducation in order to minimise promiscuous and uninformed anti-depressantprescribing. With her complaints, findings and warnings about lack ofaction, Dr Lucire has been assiduously lobbying her colleagues, theMedical Board and the Health Care Complaints Commission of NSW, theAdverse Drug Reactions Advisory Committee (ADRAC) of the federalTherapeutic Goods Administration and a clutch of ministers, both stateand federal, for many years. Most recently she has been providingredacted files on her own extensive sample of DNA swab-tested relapsingpatients suffering from the side effects of SSRIs andpolypharmacy.And she has had one notable victory in the political arena. Underpressure from Dr Lucire, the secretary of Health and Ageing set up aninquiry early in 2009 into 90 of her serious adverse drug reactionreports, which occurred mainly in normal folk treated for stress andother vicissitudes of life and who had become suicidal and/or homicidalon antidepressants. The Psychiatric Drug Safety Expert Advisory Panelreported in December last year, confirming her concerns about thenear-universality of ignorant polypharmacy and dangerous gene-baseddrug-drug interactions leading to akathisia, suicide and homicide and allthe mental states preceding them.But its recommendations are stillwaiting to be noticed by the NSW Medical Board and Department ofHealth.So far the Medical Board seems to have quite other ideas about DrLucire's contribution to public health than the Advisory Panel. In July2007 one of the many patients she was trying to save from another bout ofpotentially lethal akathisia killed her own father and sister. In herview, this patient's akathisia was initially caused by the polypharmacywhich had previously aggravated her mental condition. But this case ledto Medical Board proceedings against her. She has concerns about theboard's procedures and why she is being targeted.At the core of her alleged delinquency are charges that she has failed torecognise that SSRI treatment is "standard practice" - also"best practice"; that she has "unusual beliefs (read: notgood for the professional bottom line) about the side effects ofpsychotropic medication"; that she is "lacking in respect forcolleagues' diagnoses", and has been "guilty of destroyingpatients" confidence in their treating doctor" (while savingtheir sanity and/or lives, could we add?).Galileo would have been familiar with this kind of stuff. What DrLucire's hostile critics, like Galileo's, have not done is respondprofessionally to her criticisms in scientific terms. Could they bescared of the result? Dr Lucire continues to draw attention to the causesof the public mental health problem, albeit at times in a naive, didacticor exasperated manner, as she admits herself. She has good grounds forparanoia, but she is unwise to be forever saying that no-one takes anynotice of her (fully justified) Cassandra-like warnings. The ExpertAdvisory Panel did; some fair-minded journalists do, and also asprinkling of academics in science based disciplines.She is appealing the latest tribunal decision in the Supreme Court of NewSouth Wales backed with character references by a Who's Who of peoplewise to the ways of corporate money in the medical professions andfamiliar with the differences between majority views and what isscientifically established in psychiatry. Dr Lucire also persists intrying to stymie the campaign currently building around the country todrastically expand hospital and clinical services for the mentallyill.Prominent in this campaign are Australian of the Year 2010, Professor McGorry of Melbourne University and headspace, andProfessor Ian Hickie of the Brain and Mind Research Institute at SydneyUniversity and the SPHERE national depression initiative. McGorry is a proponent of early drug intervention to combatyouth depression. Ian Hickie is an outspoken and genuinely concernedintervener in a wide array of debates on the social health of Australiaand Australians, most recently concerning the fate of badly accommodateduniversity students.But his Brain and Mind Institute was lately discovered by TheAustralian to behousingLifeblood, a private company helping the pharmacyindustry spend $75 million on "doctors' education".Lifeblood has boasted on its website that SPHERE, "a mentalhealth program undertaken by 12,000 GPs since 1998", of which bothPfizer and the Brain and Mind Research Institute are commercial partners,has restored Pfizer's Zoloft to market leadership in the anti-depressantstakes. Hickie himself was the architect of the controversial (andBristol Myers Squibb funded) "depression screening tool" (achecklist of questions for GPs) used in SPHERE.How awkward this all must be for his institute - and for your (and my)Sydney University, which also boasts a Pfizer/PPF Chair of PharmacyManagement and a Pfizer Australian Chair in Clinical Pharmacy. ProfessorHickie also co-authored the Royal Australian and New Zealand College ofPsychiatrists' original (2003) recommended guidelines for treatment ofdepression, whose clarion call was: "Depression is common, seriousand treatable. It affects 1 in 25 people in any 1 month." TheseRANZCP guidelines recommended that even "moderately severe"depression should be treated with Nefazadone, a drug which was withdrawnfour months later because of fatal side effects. Very few specific sideeffects or drug-drug interactions were reported in these guidelines,which have been only cosmetically improved in their 2009 version for the“consumer and carerâ€.The RANZCP guidelines (and near identical ones around the world) emergedfrom the Texas of Governor W Bush where they became mandatory inthe treatment of prisoners and public mental patients following a lavishlobbying campaign under the rubric of the Texas Medication AlgorithmProject by Big Pharma. According to Dr Lucire, the notion of applyingalgorithms or "one size fits all" to a genetically diversepopulation in the days of personalised medicine borders onobscene.What is first and most needed in Australia's so far depressing, bigAmerican, Pharma driven approach to depression is not more of the samebut less. Antidepressants used for anything less then severe depression,and closely monitored, are an expensive, ineffective (less than three percent more effective than placebo in clinical trials presented to the USFood and Drug Administration for their licensing) and dangerous family ofdrugs whose side effects and addictive qualities have triggered a seriouscrisis in public health - not least by an explosion of hospital beds forunrecognised side effect casualties.The highway to massive cost savings - and effective redirection of publicspending on mental health - is to break the addiction of psychiatrists,doctors, medical bureaucracies and patients to the notion that there is apill for every ill. Dr Lucire's professional martyrdom may wellcontinue short term. But developments in the US suggest that her braveand brilliant efforts in this direction, however casually and cynicallydenigrated, will eventually prevail here. There will be many and much toanswer for if justice for her and the Australian victims of the SSRIscourge is long delayed. King isconvener of the West Papua Project at Sydney University and the author ofWest Papua and Indonesia since Suharto: Independence, Autonomy orChaos? (UNSWPress)© The National Forum and contributors 1999-2011.All rights reserved.-- Best regards,Eileen DannemannDirector, National Coalition of Organized Womenwww.ProgressiveConvergence.comwww.VaccineLiberationArmy.com319 855-0307

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I think your doctor can send out to Mayo Clinic for this.

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/cyp450-test/MY00135

However, there are many polymorphisms affecting CYP450, I'd like to know exactly

which ones are included in their tests. Haven't been able to find out.

If you do, would you post here?

>

> does anyone know a lab that does this test in the US?

>

> this is so big that I don't think you are all " getting it "

yet-Eileen Dannemann, so I repeat.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> and what about the tylenol that is given before and after vaccines (which

> depletes glutathione from liver, which is necessary for detox)?

>

> Sheri

>

>

>

>

>

> Dr. Yolande Lucire is in our network. She is a foresensic

> psychiatrist, Phd researcher in pharmacogenetics. She basically

> saved my son Dannemann who was misdiagnosed as bipolar after

> experimenting with LSD at 19 years old. He was in and out of the

> University of Iowa psyche ward; given drugs like Haldol, Tradazone,

> Adavan....all requiring the gene Cytochrome P450 2D6 to metabolize.

> For years he was being dumbed down and made incoherent until Dr. Lucire

> facilitated a simple gene test (swabbing the mouth). He was indeed

> missing all 2D6 activity and therefore was being poisoned and having

> suicidal ideations, being arrested, thrown into the psyche wards.

> He is now recovering by withdrawing all prescription drugs....thanks to

> Dr. Lucire.

>

>

> The interesting thing I found was that the glutathione pathway implicated

> in vaccine injury/ Autism Spectrum is found on the same cytochrome

> 450. Vaccines are so toxic that if someone is a poor metabolizer

> they will sustain a vaccine injury; then get misdiagosed as ADHD, ADD,

> etc and then given harmful life debilitating drugs.

>

> Why this is so HUGE...is because all of us know people who

> are taking anti depressants, SSRIs, and ADHD medication, especially the

> kids these days. Special needs education is at an all time

> high!

>

>

> Kids who do street drugs to experiment like did and are missing

> their 2D6 activity...act so strange that invariably the parent takes them

> to the Doctor and they get their own prescription. And then they get

> worse, apparently more psychotic, but that is because they have no

> metabolic activity. As they appear more psychotic they get more of

> a cocktail of drugs and their lives go down hill. This goes for

> depressed adults too.

>

>

> Education and a standard of care protocol to test a person before giving

> vaccines or psyche drugs has been suppressed in the medical industry and

> to the public. Homicides, suicides are moving upward at an alarming

> rate. Some drugs (and far from how many should be) are labled as

> suicidal. That is because a substantial percentage of people who are

> taking these drugs are poor metabolizers.

>

> Look at this link and on the Mayo clinic link- as much as 50% of

> the psyche drugs need 2D6 to metabolize. This is a pharma-medical

> coverup of an egregious kinds. There is also a list of the drugs that

> must be metabolized by 2D6.

>

>

> Missing 2D6 is not a debility. I believe it is an evolutionary

> issue. 30% of Tanzanian Africans have evolved to have

> multiple 2D6 because they eat a lot of weeds as growing food is difficult

> in that area. So they are basically eating alot of source

> medication. They have become ULTRA RAPID METABOLIZERS.

>

> Those who are found to be poor metabolizers, missing 2D6 should

> not be vaccinated; should not use street or prescription drugs;

> should stay away from toxic substances and eat organic food.

> Notice that these are the natural attitudes of the enlightened.

> Nature slam dunks the highly moral and spiritual when they stray from the

> high path...I think the missing 2D6 is a corresponding physical condition

> of a certain spiritual proclivity and a blessing for all those

> incarnating into the greatest DRUG EPOCH in the history of mankind.

>

>

> If you or your loved ones are having " apparent "

> mental problems get tested. It cost only $290.00 at this time in

> Australia at the lab Dr. Lucire uses. Read more on our site

> about 2D6, Dr. Lucire's recent published study (riveting) on homicides

> and 2D6, and the Mayo Clinic:

>

> http://vaccineliberationarmy.com/?s=2D6

>

>

> Below read about the great australian whistleblow, Dr. Yolande Lucire who

> is in our network.

>

>

>

>

> http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=11394

>

> ON LINEopinion - Australia's

> e-journal of social and political debate

>

>

> Whistleblower in Coventry: Dr Yolande Lucire and Big

> PharmaBy King

> Posted Monday, 20 December 2010

>

> Australia lags well behind the US and Britain in facing up to the

> malfeasance of multinational drug companies pushing unsafe products. Very

> often Big Pharma itself has largely conjured up the booming markets in

> which its dubious drugs offer expensive treatment for dubious medical

> conditions.

>

>

> The biggest and most lucrative scandals have been in two types of

> second-generation drugs: anti-depressants or SSRIs - Prozac, Paxil,

> Zoloft, etc, and " atypical " antipsychotics such as Zyprexa,

> Risperdal and Seroquel which were known from their licensing to be

> ineffective for the vast majority of clinical trial subjects and up to

> twice as bad for inducing suicide as antidepressants.

>

>

> The corrupt drug trial and marketing practices of Big Pharma include

> imaginary science (the serotonin deficiency theory of depression),

> systematic suppression of lethal side effects (akathisia -

> cannot-sit-down restlessness - leading to suicidal ideation, suicide and

> murder) and a multi-billion dollar success over the past generation in

> medicalising the ordinary ups and downs of the human psyche.

>

>

> Feeling sad? ( " Moderate depression " , worthy of a happy little

> Zoloft rock.) Diffident? ( " Social anxiety disorder " , try

> Aropax.) If antidepressants cured any significant number of people there

> would be significantly less cost and less demand for mental health

> services in Australia. Whether from inadequate or tendentious

> pharmacology training, laziness, busyness, greed driven by willed

> ignorance or even misplaced conviction, the medical profession has

> succumbed to the cynical marketing and the targeted blandishments of the

> pharmaceutical companies.

>

>

> Medical and scientific journals from Nature to The New England

> Journal of Medicine allowed their columns to be infiltrated for years

> by blatantly dishonest research reporting and ghost written articles

> commissioned in Pharma-land but signed by distinguished professors

> frequently in receipt of seven-figure research and consultancy funding.

> Most of these journals do now take another tack, debunking Pharma claims

> and exposing fraudulence. But many medical professional bodies are still

> being subsidised beyond hope of objective dealing with the issue of mass

> iatrogenesis caused by dud drugs andmultiple drug prescribing

> ( " polypharmacy " ), and particularly with the lethal side effects

> of anti-depressants.

>

>

> The key drug regulator in the US - and the planet - the United States

> Food and Drug Administration (US FDA) has failed to purge the

> Pharma-friendly experts who have dominated its rulings up to now. Our own

> Therapeutic Goods Administration obediently follows suit, also licensing

> drugs largely on information provided by their makers. But in America the

> going has been getting perceptibly harder for the drug

> companies.

>

>

> Whistleblowers, class actions and litigious state governments confronting

> ballooning health costs have been taking a toll on profits. Pfizer was

> recently fined $US2.3 billion for fraudulently promoting four drugs

> including the " antipsychotic " Zeldox last year. This fine is

> seriously denting Pfizer's bottom (net income) line of $US8 billion, and

> whistleblowers, including former Pfizer employees, collected over $US100

> million for their pains in this case - a big threat to Pharma for the

> future.

>

>

> Although such a fine has been described in a recent British Medical

> Journal as " firing 22s into the arse of a rhino " and Pfizer

> has been called " too big to nail " (only a Pfizer subsidiary

> pleaded guilty to criminal charges), drug companies face a rising tide of

> multi-billion dollar class actions and the prospect of new laws which

> could put them out of business. The original whistleblowers who were

> listened to have made the key difference in the United States.

> Whitaker traced the suicide epidemic and mental health cost blow-out

> following the launch of Prozac in 1988. The quiet Irishman, Healy,

> exposed drug trial fakery and the vast, hidden collateral damage of

> pharma's SSRI bonanza in the 1990s and later.

>

>

> These two and others have engineered a paradigm shift in public

> understanding, and professorial heads in receipt of undeclared

> consultancy riches have started to roll at research institutes and

> universities in the US, including even Harvard. According to the New

> York Times, Dr ph Biederman, the pioneer of " aggressive

> diagnosis and drug treatment of childhood bipolar disorder " ,

> failed to

> report most of the $1.6 million he received in pharma funding over

> several years while at Harvard.

>

> The single person who has been trying hardest to fill the

> Whitaker/Healy whistleblower gap in Australia is Sydney psychiatrist, Dr

> Yolande Lucire. Thirteen years ago she began to notice alarmingly

> high hospital admission and suicide rates among patients treated with

> SSRIs and atypical antipsychotics in New South Wales's Greater Southern

> Area Health Service. Since then she has been fighting back against the

> Pharma-driven psychiatric consensus that treating with SSRIs is safe and

> effective, working hard to wean patient-victims as well as their

> prescribers off the drugs.

>

> She has steadily accumulated damning statistics on suicide, homicide

> and hospitalisation rates among these patients in New South Wales.

> More recently it has become clear that a large percentage of people being

> treated with antidepressants can't metabolise them due to common genetic

> mutations. Dr Lucire has been campaigning to introduce systematic doctor

> education in order to minimise promiscuous and uninformed anti-depressant

> prescribing. With her complaints, findings and warnings about lack of

> action, Dr Lucire has been assiduously lobbying her colleagues, the

> Medical Board and the Health Care Complaints Commission of NSW, the

> Adverse Drug Reactions Advisory Committee (ADRAC) of the federal

> Therapeutic Goods Administration and a clutch of ministers, both state

> and federal, for many years. Most recently she has been providing

> redacted files on her own extensive sample of DNA swab-tested relapsing

> patients suffering from the side effects of SSRIs and

> polypharmacy.

>

> And she has had one notable victory in the political arena. Under

> pressure from Dr Lucire, the secretary of Health and Ageing set up an

> inquiry early in 2009 into 90 of her serious adverse drug reaction

> reports, which occurred mainly in normal folk treated for stress and

> other vicissitudes of life and who had become suicidal and/or homicidal

> on antidepressants. The Psychiatric Drug Safety Expert Advisory Panel

> reported in December last year, confirming her concerns about the

> near-universality of ignorant polypharmacy and dangerous gene-based

> drug-drug interactions leading to akathisia, suicide and homicide and all

> the mental states preceding them.But its recommendations are still

> waiting to be noticed by the NSW Medical Board and Department of

> Health.

>

>

> So far the Medical Board seems to have quite other ideas about Dr

> Lucire's contribution to public health than the Advisory Panel. In July

> 2007 one of the many patients she was trying to save from another bout of

> potentially lethal akathisia killed her own father and sister. In her

> view, this patient's akathisia was initially caused by the polypharmacy

> which had previously aggravated her mental condition. But this case led

> to Medical Board proceedings against her. She has concerns about the

> board's procedures and why she is being targeted.

>

>

> At the core of her alleged delinquency are charges that she has failed to

> recognise that SSRI treatment is " standard practice " - also

> " best practice " ; that she has " unusual beliefs (read: not

> good for the professional bottom line) about the side effects of

> psychotropic medication " ; that she is " lacking in respect for

> colleagues' diagnoses " , and has been " guilty of destroying

> patients " confidence in their treating doctor " (while saving

> their sanity and/or lives, could we add?).

>

>

> Galileo would have been familiar with this kind of stuff. What Dr

> Lucire's hostile critics, like Galileo's, have not done is respond

> professionally to her criticisms in scientific terms. Could they be

> scared of the result? Dr Lucire continues to draw attention to the causes

> of the public mental health problem, albeit at times in a naive, didactic

> or exasperated manner, as she admits herself. She has good grounds for

> paranoia, but she is unwise to be forever saying that no-one takes any

> notice of her (fully justified) Cassandra-like warnings. The Expert

> Advisory Panel did; some fair-minded journalists do, and also a

> sprinkling of academics in science based disciplines.

>

>

> She is appealing the latest tribunal decision in the Supreme Court of New

> South Wales backed with character references by a Who's Who of people

> wise to the ways of corporate money in the medical professions and

> familiar with the differences between majority views and what is

> scientifically established in psychiatry. Dr Lucire also persists in

> trying to stymie the campaign currently building around the country to

> drastically expand hospital and clinical services for the mentally

> ill.

>

>

> Prominent in this campaign are Australian of the Year 2010, Professor

> McGorry of Melbourne University and headspace, and

> Professor Ian Hickie of the Brain and Mind Research Institute at Sydney

> University and the SPHERE national depression initiative.

>

> McGorry is a proponent of early drug intervention to combat

> youth depression. Ian Hickie is an outspoken and genuinely concerned

> intervener in a wide array of debates on the social health of Australia

> and Australians, most recently concerning the fate of badly accommodated

> university students.

>

>

> But his Brain and Mind Institute was lately discovered by TheAustralian to be

>

> housingLifeblood, a private company helping the pharmacy

> industry spend $75 million on " doctors' education " .

> Lifeblood has boasted on its website that SPHERE, " a mental

> health program undertaken by 12,000 GPs since 1998 " , of which both

> Pfizer and the Brain and Mind Research Institute are commercial partners,

> has restored Pfizer's Zoloft to market leadership in the anti-depressant

> stakes. Hickie himself was the architect of the controversial (and

> Bristol Myers Squibb funded) " depression screening tool " (a

> checklist of questions for GPs) used in SPHERE.

>

>

> How awkward this all must be for his institute - and for your (and my)

> Sydney University, which also boasts a Pfizer/PPF Chair of Pharmacy

> Management and a Pfizer Australian Chair in Clinical Pharmacy. Professor

> Hickie also co-authored the Royal Australian and New Zealand College of

> Psychiatrists' original (2003) recommended guidelines for treatment of

> depression, whose clarion call was: " Depression is common, serious

> and treatable. It affects 1 in 25 people in any 1 month. " These

> RANZCP guidelines recommended that even " moderately severe "

> depression should be treated with Nefazadone, a drug which was withdrawn

> four months later because of fatal side effects. Very few specific side

> effects or drug-drug interactions were reported in these guidelines,

> which have been only cosmetically improved in their 2009 version for the

> “consumer and carerâ€.

>

>

> The RANZCP guidelines (and near identical ones around the world) emerged

> from the Texas of Governor W Bush where they became mandatory in

> the treatment of prisoners and public mental patients following a lavish

> lobbying campaign under the rubric of the Texas Medication Algorithm

> Project by Big Pharma. According to Dr Lucire, the notion of applying

> algorithms or " one size fits all " to a genetically diverse

> population in the days of personalised medicine borders on

> obscene.

>

>

> What is first and most needed in Australia's so far depressing, big

> American, Pharma driven approach to depression is not more of the same

> but less. Antidepressants used for anything less then severe depression,

> and closely monitored, are an expensive, ineffective (less than three per

> cent more effective than placebo in clinical trials presented to the US

> Food and Drug Administration for their licensing) and dangerous family of

> drugs whose side effects and addictive qualities have triggered a serious

> crisis in public health - not least by an explosion of hospital beds for

> unrecognised side effect casualties.

>

>

> The highway to massive cost savings - and effective redirection of public

> spending on mental health - is to break the addiction of psychiatrists,

> doctors, medical bureaucracies and patients to the notion that there is a

> pill for every ill. Dr Lucire's professional martyrdom may well

> continue short term. But developments in the US suggest that her brave

> and brilliant efforts in this direction, however casually and cynically

> denigrated, will eventually prevail here. There will be many and much to

> answer for if justice for her and the Australian victims of the SSRI

> scourge is long delayed.

>

> King is

> convener of the West Papua Project at Sydney University and the author of

> West Papua and Indonesia since Suharto: Independence, Autonomy or

> Chaos? (UNSW

> Press)

>

> © The National Forum and contributors 1999-2011.

> All rights reserved.

>

> --

>

>

>

> Best regards,

>

>

> Eileen Dannemann

>

> Director, National Coalition of Organized Women

>

> www.ProgressiveConvergence.com

>

> www.VaccineLiberationArmy.com

> 319 855-0307

>

[Guest guest]

Just found this page:

http://www.mayomedicallaboratories.com/search.php?q=cyp450

[Guest guest]

interesting thank you. this is so big that I don't think you are all "getting it" yet-Eileen Dannemann, so I repeat.> > > > > > > > and what about the tylenol that is given before and after vaccines (which> depletes glutathione from liver, which is necessary for detox)?> > Sheri> > > > > > Dr. Yolande Lucire is in our network. She is a foresensic> psychiatrist, Phd researcher in pharmacogenetics. She basically> saved my son Dannemann who was misdiagnosed as bipolar after> experimenting with LSD at 19 years old. He was in and out of the> University of Iowa psyche ward; given drugs like Haldol, Tradazone,> Adavan....all requiring the gene Cytochrome P450 2D6 to metabolize. > For years he was being dumbed down and made incoherent until Dr. Lucire> facilitated a simple gene test (swabbing the mouth). He was indeed> missing all 2D6 activity and therefore was being poisoned and having> suicidal ideations, being arrested, thrown into the psyche wards. > He is now recovering by withdrawing all prescription drugs....thanks to> Dr. Lucire.> > > The interesting thing I found was that the glutathione pathway implicated> in vaccine injury/ Autism Spectrum is found on the same cytochrome> 450. Vaccines are so toxic that if someone is a poor metabolizer> they will sustain a vaccine injury; then get misdiagosed as ADHD, ADD,> etc and then given harmful life debilitating drugs. > > Why this is so HUGE...is because all of us know people who> are taking anti depressants, SSRIs, and ADHD medication, especially the> kids these days. Special needs education is at an all time> high!> > > Kids who do street drugs to experiment like did and are missing> their 2D6 activity...act so strange that invariably the parent takes them> to the Doctor and they get their own prescription. And then they get> worse, apparently more psychotic, but that is because they have no> metabolic activity. As they appear more psychotic they get more of> a cocktail of drugs and their lives go down hill. This goes for> depressed adults too.> > > Education and a standard of care protocol to test a person before giving> vaccines or psyche drugs has been suppressed in the medical industry and> to the public. Homicides, suicides are moving upward at an alarming> rate. Some drugs (and far from how many should be) are labled as> suicidal. That is because a substantial percentage of people who are> taking these drugs are poor metabolizers. > > Look at this link and on the Mayo clinic link- as much as 50% of> the psyche drugs need 2D6 to metabolize. This is a pharma-medical> coverup of an egregious kinds. There is also a list of the drugs that> must be metabolized by 2D6.> > > Missing 2D6 is not a debility. I believe it is an evolutionary> issue. 30% of Tanzanian Africans have evolved to have> multiple 2D6 because they eat a lot of weeds as growing food is difficult> in that area. So they are basically eating alot of source> medication. They have become ULTRA RAPID METABOLIZERS.> > Those who are found to be poor metabolizers, missing 2D6 should> not be vaccinated; should not use street or prescription drugs;> should stay away from toxic substances and eat organic food. > Notice that these are the natural attitudes of the enlightened. > Nature slam dunks the highly moral and spiritual when they stray from the> high path...I think the missing 2D6 is a corresponding physical condition> of a certain spiritual proclivity and a blessing for all those> incarnating into the greatest DRUG EPOCH in the history of mankind.> > > If you or your loved ones are having "apparent"> mental problems get tested. It cost only $290.00 at this time in> Australia at the lab Dr. Lucire uses. Read more on our site> about 2D6, Dr. Lucire's recent published study (riveting) on homicides> and 2D6, and the Mayo Clinic: > > http://vaccineliberationarmy.com/?s=2D6> > > Below read about the great australian whistleblow, Dr. Yolande Lucire who> is in our network.> > > > > http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=11394> > ON LINEopinion - Australia's> e-journal of social and political debate> > > Whistleblower in Coventry: Dr Yolande Lucire and Big> PharmaBy King> Posted Monday, 20 December 2010> > Australia lags well behind the US and Britain in facing up to the> malfeasance of multinational drug companies pushing unsafe products. Very> often Big Pharma itself has largely conjured up the booming markets in> which its dubious drugs offer expensive treatment for dubious medical> conditions.> > > The biggest and most lucrative scandals have been in two types of> second-generation drugs: anti-depressants or SSRIs - Prozac, Paxil,> Zoloft, etc, and "atypical" antipsychotics such as Zyprexa,> Risperdal and Seroquel which were known from their licensing to be> ineffective for the vast majority of clinical trial subjects and up to> twice as bad for inducing suicide as antidepressants.> > > The corrupt drug trial and marketing practices of Big Pharma include> imaginary science (the serotonin deficiency theory of depression),> systematic suppression of lethal side effects (akathisia -> cannot-sit-down restlessness - leading to suicidal ideation, suicide and> murder) and a multi-billion dollar success over the past generation in> medicalising the ordinary ups and downs of the human psyche.> > > Feeling sad? ("Moderate depression", worthy of a happy little> Zoloft rock.) Diffident? ("Social anxiety disorder", try> Aropax.) If antidepressants cured any significant number of people there> would be significantly less cost and less demand for mental health> services in Australia. Whether from inadequate or tendentious> pharmacology training, laziness, busyness, greed driven by willed> ignorance or even misplaced conviction, the medical profession has> succumbed to the cynical marketing and the targeted blandishments of the> pharmaceutical companies.> > > Medical and scientific journals from Nature to The New England> Journal of Medicine allowed their columns to be infiltrated for years> by blatantly dishonest research reporting and ghost written articles> commissioned in Pharma-land but signed by distinguished professors> frequently in receipt of seven-figure research and consultancy funding.> Most of these journals do now take another tack, debunking Pharma claims> and exposing fraudulence. But many medical professional bodies are still> being subsidised beyond hope of objective dealing with the issue of mass> iatrogenesis caused by dud drugs andmultiple drug prescribing> ("polypharmacy"), and particularly with the lethal side effects> of anti-depressants.> > > The key drug regulator in the US - and the planet - the United States> Food and Drug Administration (US FDA) has failed to purge the> Pharma-friendly experts who have dominated its rulings up to now. Our own> Therapeutic Goods Administration obediently follows suit, also licensing> drugs largely on information provided by their makers. But in America the> going has been getting perceptibly harder for the drug> companies.> > > Whistleblowers, class actions and litigious state governments confronting> ballooning health costs have been taking a toll on profits. Pfizer was> recently fined $US2.3 billion for fraudulently promoting four drugs> including the "antipsychotic" Zeldox last year. This fine is> seriously denting Pfizer's bottom (net income) line of $US8 billion, and> whistleblowers, including former Pfizer employees, collected over $US100> million for their pains in this case - a big threat to Pharma for the> future.> > > Although such a fine has been described in a recent British Medical> Journal as"firing 22s into the arse of a rhino" and Pfizer> has been called "too big to nail" (only a Pfizer subsidiary> pleaded guilty to criminal charges), drug companies face a rising tide of> multi-billion dollar class actions and the prospect of new laws which> could put them out of business. The original whistleblowers who were> listened to have made the key difference in the United States. > Whitaker traced the suicide epidemic and mental health cost blow-out> following the launch of Prozac in 1988. The quiet Irishman, Healy,> exposed drug trial fakery and the vast, hidden collateral damage of> pharma's SSRI bonanza in the 1990s and later.> > > These two and others have engineered a paradigm shift in public> understanding, and professorial heads in receipt of undeclared> consultancy riches have started to roll at research institutes and> universities in the US, including even Harvard. According to the New> York Times, Dr ph Biederman, the pioneer of "aggressive> diagnosis and drug treatment of childhood bipolar disorder",> failed to> report most of the $1.6 million he received in pharma funding over> several years while at Harvard.> > The single person who has been trying hardest to fill the> Whitaker/Healy whistleblower gap in Australia is Sydney psychiatrist, Dr> Yolande Lucire. Thirteen years ago she began to notice alarmingly> high hospital admission and suicide rates among patients treated with> SSRIs and atypical antipsychotics in New South Wales's Greater Southern> Area Health Service. Since then she has been fighting back against the> Pharma-driven psychiatric consensus that treating with SSRIs is safe and> effective, working hard to wean patient-victims as well as their> prescribers off the drugs.> > She has steadily accumulated damning statistics on suicide, homicide> and hospitalisation rates among these patients in New South Wales.> More recently it has become clear that a large percentage of people being> treated with antidepressants can't metabolise them due to common genetic> mutations. Dr Lucire has been campaigning to introduce systematic doctor> education in order to minimise promiscuous and uninformed anti-depressant> prescribing. With her complaints, findings and warnings about lack of> action, Dr Lucire has been assiduously lobbying her colleagues, the> Medical Board and the Health Care Complaints Commission of NSW, the> Adverse Drug Reactions Advisory Committee (ADRAC) of the federal> Therapeutic Goods Administration and a clutch of ministers, both state> and federal, for many years. Most recently she has been providing> redacted files on her own extensive sample of DNA swab-tested relapsing> patients suffering from the side effects of SSRIs and> polypharmacy.> > And she has had one notable victory in the political arena. Under> pressure from Dr Lucire, the secretary of Health and Ageing set up an> inquiry early in 2009 into 90 of her serious adverse drug reaction> reports, which occurred mainly in normal folk treated for stress and> other vicissitudes of life and who had become suicidal and/or homicidal> on antidepressants. The Psychiatric Drug Safety Expert Advisory Panel> reported in December last year, confirming her concerns about the> near-universality of ignorant polypharmacy and dangerous gene-based> drug-drug interactions leading to akathisia, suicide and homicide and all> the mental states preceding them.But its recommendations are still> waiting to be noticed by the NSW Medical Board and Department of> Health.> > > So far the Medical Board seems to have quite other ideas about Dr> Lucire's contribution to public health than the Advisory Panel. In July> 2007 one of the many patients she was trying to save from another bout of> potentially lethal akathisia killed her own father and sister. In her> view, this patient's akathisia was initially caused by the polypharmacy> which had previously aggravated her mental condition. But this case led> to Medical Board proceedings against her. She has concerns about the> board's procedures and why she is being targeted.> > > At the core of her alleged delinquency are charges that she has failed to> recognise that SSRI treatment is "standard practice" - also> "best practice"; that she has "unusual beliefs (read: not> good for the professional bottom line) about the side effects of> psychotropic medication"; that she is "lacking in respect for> colleagues' diagnoses", and has been "guilty of destroying> patients" confidence in their treating doctor" (while saving> their sanity and/or lives, could we add?).> > > Galileo would have been familiar with this kind of stuff. What Dr> Lucire's hostile critics, like Galileo's, have not done is respond> professionally to her criticisms in scientific terms. Could they be> scared of the result? Dr Lucire continues to draw attention to the causes> of the public mental health problem, albeit at times in a naive, didactic> or exasperated manner, as she admits herself. She has good grounds for> paranoia, but she is unwise to be forever saying that no-one takes any> notice of her (fully justified) Cassandra-like warnings. The Expert> Advisory Panel did; some fair-minded journalists do, and also a> sprinkling of academics in science based disciplines.> > > She is appealing the latest tribunal decision in the Supreme Court of New> South Wales backed with character references by a Who's Who of people> wise to the ways of corporate money in the medical professions and> familiar with the differences between majority views and what is> scientifically established in psychiatry. Dr Lucire also persists in> trying to stymie the campaign currently building around the country to> drastically expand hospital and clinical services for the mentally> ill.> > > Prominent in this campaign are Australian of the Year 2010, Professor> McGorry of Melbourne University and headspace, and> Professor Ian Hickie of the Brain and Mind Research Institute at Sydney> University and the SPHERE national depression initiative.> > McGorry is a proponent of early drug intervention to combat> youth depression. Ian Hickie is an outspoken and genuinely concerned> intervener in a wide array of debates on the social health of Australia> and Australians, most recently concerning the fate of badly accommodated> university students.> > > But his Brain and Mind Institute was lately discovered by TheAustralian to be> > housingLifeblood, a private company helping the pharmacy> industry spend $75 million on "doctors' education".> Lifeblood has boasted on its website that SPHERE, "a mental> health program undertaken by 12,000 GPs since 1998", of which both> Pfizer and the Brain and Mind Research Institute are commercial partners,> has restored Pfizer's Zoloft to market leadership in the anti-depressant> stakes. Hickie himself was the architect of the controversial (and> Bristol Myers Squibb funded) "depression screening tool" (a> checklist of questions for GPs) used in SPHERE.> > > How awkward this all must be for his institute - and for your (and my)> Sydney University, which also boasts a Pfizer/PPF Chair of Pharmacy> Management and a Pfizer Australian Chair in Clinical Pharmacy. Professor> Hickie also co-authored the Royal Australian and New Zealand College of> Psychiatrists' original (2003) recommended guidelines for treatment of> depression, whose clarion call was: "Depression is common, serious> and treatable. It affects 1 in 25 people in any 1 month." These> RANZCP guidelines recommended that even "moderately severe"> depression should be treated with Nefazadone, a drug which was withdrawn> four months later because of fatal side effects. Very few specific side> effects or drug-drug interactions were reported in these guidelines,> which have been only cosmetically improved in their 2009 version for the> “consumer and carer�.> > > The RANZCP guidelines (and near identical ones around the world) emerged> from the Texas of Governor W Bush where they became mandatory in> the treatment of prisoners and public mental patients following a lavish> lobbying campaign under the rubric of the Texas Medication Algorithm> Project by Big Pharma. According to Dr Lucire, the notion of applying> algorithms or "one size fits all" to a genetically diverse> population in the days of personalised medicine borders on> obscene.> > > What is first and most needed in Australia's so far depressing, big> American, Pharma driven approach to depression is not more of the same> but less. Antidepressants used for anything less then severe depression,> and closely monitored, are an expensive, ineffective (less than three per> cent more effective than placebo in clinical trials presented to the US> Food and Drug Administration for their licensing) and dangerous family of> drugs whose side effects and addictive qualities have triggered a serious> crisis in public health - not least by an explosion of hospital beds for> unrecognised side effect casualties.> > > The highway to massive cost savings - and effective redirection of public> spending on mental health - is to break the addiction of psychiatrists,> doctors, medical bureaucracies and patients to the notion that there is a> pill for every ill. Dr Lucire's professional martyrdom may well> continue short term. But developments in the US suggest that her brave> and brilliant efforts in this direction, however casually and cynically> denigrated, will eventually prevail here. There will be many and much to> answer for if justice for her and the Australian victims of the SSRI> scourge is long delayed.> > King is> convener of the West Papua Project at Sydney University and the author of> West Papua and Indonesia since Suharto: Independence, Autonomy or> Chaos? (UNSW> Press)> > © The National Forum and contributors 1999-2011.> All rights reserved.> > -- > > > > Best regards,> > > Eileen Dannemann> > Director, National Coalition of Organized Women> > www.ProgressiveConvergence.com> > www.VaccineLiberationArmy.com> 319 855-0307>

[Guest guest]

I dont know if you want to be trusting of any medical facility who is now working on using animal dna to reproduce human body parts for transplatation. Remember what happened with growing vaccines on monkey dna? Simean virus in our kids.To: EOHarm Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 1:26 PMSubject: Re: Re: this is so big that I don't think you are all "getting it" yet-Eileen Dannemann, so I repeat.

interesting thank you. this is so big that I don't think you are all "getting it" yet-Eileen Dannemann, so I repeat.> > > > > > > > and what about the tylenol that is given before and after vaccines (which> depletes glutathione from liver, which is necessary for detox)?> > Sheri> > > > > > Dr. Yolande Lucire is in our network. She is a foresensic> psychiatrist, Phd researcher in pharmacogenetics. She basically> saved

my son Dannemann who was misdiagnosed as bipolar after> experimenting with LSD at 19 years old. He was in and out of the> University of Iowa psyche ward; given drugs like Haldol, Tradazone,> Adavan....all requiring the gene Cytochrome P450 2D6 to metabolize. > For years he was being dumbed down and made incoherent until Dr. Lucire> facilitated a simple gene test (swabbing the mouth). He was indeed> missing all 2D6 activity and therefore was being poisoned and having> suicidal ideations, being arrested, thrown into the psyche wards. > He is now recovering by withdrawing all prescription drugs....thanks to> Dr. Lucire.> > > The interesting thing I found was that the glutathione pathway implicated> in vaccine injury/ Autism Spectrum is found on the same cytochrome>

450. Vaccines are so toxic that if someone is a poor metabolizer> they will sustain a vaccine injury; then get misdiagosed as ADHD, ADD,> etc and then given harmful life debilitating drugs. > > Why this is so HUGE...is because all of us know people who> are taking anti depressants, SSRIs, and ADHD medication, especially the> kids these days. Special needs education is at an all time> high!> > > Kids who do street drugs to experiment like did and are missing> their 2D6 activity...act so strange that invariably the parent takes them> to the Doctor and they get their own prescription. And then they get> worse, apparently more psychotic, but that is because they have no> metabolic activity. As they appear more psychotic they get more

of> a cocktail of drugs and their lives go down hill. This goes for> depressed adults too.> > > Education and a standard of care protocol to test a person before giving> vaccines or psyche drugs has been suppressed in the medical industry and> to the public. Homicides, suicides are moving upward at an alarming> rate. Some drugs (and far from how many should be) are labled as> suicidal. That is because a substantial percentage of people who are> taking these drugs are poor metabolizers. > > Look at this link and on the Mayo clinic link- as much as 50% of> the psyche drugs need 2D6 to metabolize. This is a pharma-medical> coverup of an egregious kinds. There is also a list of the drugs that> must be metabolized by

2D6.> > > Missing 2D6 is not a debility. I believe it is an evolutionary> issue. 30% of Tanzanian Africans have evolved to have> multiple 2D6 because they eat a lot of weeds as growing food is difficult> in that area. So they are basically eating alot of source> medication. They have become ULTRA RAPID METABOLIZERS.> > Those who are found to be poor metabolizers, missing 2D6 should> not be vaccinated; should not use street or prescription drugs;> should stay away from toxic substances and eat organic food. > Notice that these are the natural attitudes of the enlightened. > Nature slam dunks the highly moral and spiritual when they stray from the> high path...I think the missing 2D6 is a corresponding physical condition> of a certain

spiritual proclivity and a blessing for all those> incarnating into the greatest DRUG EPOCH in the history of mankind.> > > If you or your loved ones are having "apparent"> mental problems get tested. It cost only $290.00 at this time in> Australia at the lab Dr. Lucire uses. Read more on our site> about 2D6, Dr. Lucire's recent published study (riveting) on homicides> and 2D6, and the Mayo Clinic: > > http://vaccineliberationarmy.com/?s=2D6> > > Below read about the great australian whistleblow, Dr. Yolande Lucire who> is in our network.> > > > > http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=11394> > ON LINEopinion - Australia's> e-journal of social and political

debate> > > Whistleblower in Coventry: Dr Yolande Lucire and Big> PharmaBy King> Posted Monday, 20 December 2010> > Australia lags well behind the US and Britain in facing up to the> malfeasance of multinational drug companies pushing unsafe products. Very> often Big Pharma itself has largely conjured up the booming markets in> which its dubious drugs offer expensive treatment for dubious medical> conditions.> > > The biggest and most lucrative scandals have been in two types of> second-generation drugs: anti-depressants or SSRIs - Prozac, Paxil,> Zoloft, etc, and "atypical" antipsychotics such as Zyprexa,> Risperdal and Seroquel which were known from their licensing to be> ineffective for the vast majority of clinical trial subjects and up

to> twice as bad for inducing suicide as antidepressants.> > > The corrupt drug trial and marketing practices of Big Pharma include> imaginary science (the serotonin deficiency theory of depression),> systematic suppression of lethal side effects (akathisia -> cannot-sit-down restlessness - leading to suicidal ideation, suicide and> murder) and a multi-billion dollar success over the past generation in> medicalising the ordinary ups and downs of the human psyche.> > > Feeling sad? ("Moderate depression", worthy of a happy little> Zoloft rock.) Diffident? ("Social anxiety disorder", try> Aropax.) If antidepressants cured any significant number of people there> would be significantly less cost and less demand for mental health> services in Australia. Whether from inadequate or

tendentious> pharmacology training, laziness, busyness, greed driven by willed> ignorance or even misplaced conviction, the medical profession has> succumbed to the cynical marketing and the targeted blandishments of the> pharmaceutical companies.> > > Medical and scientific journals from Nature to The New England> Journal of Medicine allowed their columns to be infiltrated for years> by blatantly dishonest research reporting and ghost written articles> commissioned in Pharma-land but signed by distinguished professors> frequently in receipt of seven-figure research and consultancy funding.> Most of these journals do now take another tack, debunking Pharma claims> and exposing fraudulence. But many medical professional bodies are still> being subsidised beyond hope of objective dealing with the issue

of mass> iatrogenesis caused by dud drugs andmultiple drug prescribing> ("polypharmacy"), and particularly with the lethal side effects> of anti-depressants.> > > The key drug regulator in the US - and the planet - the United States> Food and Drug Administration (US FDA) has failed to purge the> Pharma-friendly experts who have dominated its rulings up to now. Our own> Therapeutic Goods Administration obediently follows suit, also licensing> drugs largely on information provided by their makers. But in America the> going has been getting perceptibly harder for the drug> companies.> > > Whistleblowers, class actions and litigious state governments confronting> ballooning health costs have been taking a toll on profits. Pfizer was> recently fined $US2.3 billion for

fraudulently promoting four drugs> including the "antipsychotic" Zeldox last year. This fine is> seriously denting Pfizer's bottom (net income) line of $US8 billion, and> whistleblowers, including former Pfizer employees, collected over $US100> million for their pains in this case - a big threat to Pharma for the> future.> > > Although such a fine has been described in a recent British Medical> Journal as"firing 22s into the arse of a rhino" and Pfizer> has been called "too big to nail" (only a Pfizer subsidiary> pleaded guilty to criminal charges), drug companies face a rising tide of> multi-billion dollar class actions and the prospect of new laws which> could put them out of business. The original whistleblowers who were> listened to have made the key difference in the United States.

> Whitaker traced the suicide epidemic and mental health cost blow-out> following the launch of Prozac in 1988. The quiet Irishman, Healy,> exposed drug trial fakery and the vast, hidden collateral damage of> pharma's SSRI bonanza in the 1990s and later.> > > These two and others have engineered a paradigm shift in public> understanding, and professorial heads in receipt of undeclared> consultancy riches have started to roll at research institutes and> universities in the US, including even Harvard. According to the New> York Times, Dr ph Biederman, the pioneer of "aggressive> diagnosis and drug treatment of childhood bipolar disorder",> failed to> report most of the $1.6 million he received in pharma funding over> several years while at Harvard.> > The

single person who has been trying hardest to fill the> Whitaker/Healy whistleblower gap in Australia is Sydney psychiatrist, Dr> Yolande Lucire. Thirteen years ago she began to notice alarmingly> high hospital admission and suicide rates among patients treated with> SSRIs and atypical antipsychotics in New South Wales's Greater Southern> Area Health Service. Since then she has been fighting back against the> Pharma-driven psychiatric consensus that treating with SSRIs is safe and> effective, working hard to wean patient-victims as well as their> prescribers off the drugs.> > She has steadily accumulated damning statistics on suicide, homicide> and hospitalisation rates among these patients in New South Wales.> More recently it has become clear that a large percentage of people being> treated with antidepressants

can't metabolise them due to common genetic> mutations. Dr Lucire has been campaigning to introduce systematic doctor> education in order to minimise promiscuous and uninformed anti-depressant> prescribing. With her complaints, findings and warnings about lack of> action, Dr Lucire has been assiduously lobbying her colleagues, the> Medical Board and the Health Care Complaints Commission of NSW, the> Adverse Drug Reactions Advisory Committee (ADRAC) of the federal> Therapeutic Goods Administration and a clutch of ministers, both state> and federal, for many years. Most recently she has been providing> redacted files on her own extensive sample of DNA swab-tested relapsing> patients suffering from the side effects of SSRIs and> polypharmacy.> > And she has had one notable victory in the political arena.

Under> pressure from Dr Lucire, the secretary of Health and Ageing set up an> inquiry early in 2009 into 90 of her serious adverse drug reaction> reports, which occurred mainly in normal folk treated for stress and> other vicissitudes of life and who had become suicidal and/or homicidal> on antidepressants. The Psychiatric Drug Safety Expert Advisory Panel> reported in December last year, confirming her concerns about the> near-universality of ignorant polypharmacy and dangerous gene-based> drug-drug interactions leading to akathisia, suicide and homicide and all> the mental states preceding them.But its recommendations are still> waiting to be noticed by the NSW Medical Board and Department of> Health.> > > So far the Medical Board seems to have quite other ideas about Dr> Lucire's

contribution to public health than the Advisory Panel. In July> 2007 one of the many patients she was trying to save from another bout of> potentially lethal akathisia killed her own father and sister. In her> view, this patient's akathisia was initially caused by the polypharmacy> which had previously aggravated her mental condition. But this case led> to Medical Board proceedings against her. She has concerns about the> board's procedures and why she is being targeted.> > > At the core of her alleged delinquency are charges that she has failed to> recognise that SSRI treatment is "standard practice" - also> "best practice"; that she has "unusual beliefs (read: not> good for the professional bottom line) about the side effects of> psychotropic medication"; that she is "lacking in respect for>

colleagues' diagnoses", and has been "guilty of destroying> patients" confidence in their treating doctor" (while saving> their sanity and/or lives, could we add?).> > > Galileo would have been familiar with this kind of stuff. What Dr> Lucire's hostile critics, like Galileo's, have not done is respond> professionally to her criticisms in scientific terms. Could they be> scared of the result? Dr Lucire continues to draw attention to the causes> of the public mental health problem, albeit at times in a naive, didactic> or exasperated manner, as she admits herself. She has good grounds for> paranoia, but she is unwise to be forever saying that no-one takes any> notice of her (fully justified) Cassandra-like warnings. The Expert> Advisory Panel did; some fair-minded journalists do, and also a> sprinkling

of academics in science based disciplines.> > > She is appealing the latest tribunal decision in the Supreme Court of New> South Wales backed with character references by a Who's Who of people> wise to the ways of corporate money in the medical professions and> familiar with the differences between majority views and what is> scientifically established in psychiatry. Dr Lucire also persists in> trying to stymie the campaign currently building around the country to> drastically expand hospital and clinical services for the mentally> ill.> > > Prominent in this campaign are Australian of the Year 2010, Professor> McGorry of Melbourne University and headspace, and> Professor Ian Hickie of the Brain and Mind Research Institute at Sydney> University and the SPHERE national

depression initiative.> > McGorry is a proponent of early drug intervention to combat> youth depression. Ian Hickie is an outspoken and genuinely concerned> intervener in a wide array of debates on the social health of Australia> and Australians, most recently concerning the fate of badly accommodated> university students.> > > But his Brain and Mind Institute was lately discovered by TheAustralian to be> > housingLifeblood, a private company helping the pharmacy> industry spend $75 million on "doctors' education".> Lifeblood has boasted on its website that SPHERE, "a mental> health program undertaken by 12,000 GPs since 1998", of which both> Pfizer and the Brain and Mind Research Institute are commercial partners,> has restored Pfizer's Zoloft to market leadership in the

anti-depressant> stakes. Hickie himself was the architect of the controversial (and> Bristol Myers Squibb funded) "depression screening tool" (a> checklist of questions for GPs) used in SPHERE.> > > How awkward this all must be for his institute - and for your (and my)> Sydney University, which also boasts a Pfizer/PPF Chair of Pharmacy> Management and a Pfizer Australian Chair in Clinical Pharmacy. Professor> Hickie also co-authored the Royal Australian and New Zealand College of> Psychiatrists' original (2003) recommended guidelines for treatment of> depression, whose clarion call was: "Depression is common, serious> and treatable. It affects 1 in 25 people in any 1 month." These> RANZCP guidelines recommended that even "moderately severe"> depression should be treated with Nefazadone, a drug which

was withdrawn> four months later because of fatal side effects. Very few specific side> effects or drug-drug interactions were reported in these guidelines,> which have been only cosmetically improved in their 2009 version for the> “consumer and carer�.> > > The RANZCP guidelines (and near identical ones around the world) emerged> from the Texas of Governor W Bush where they became mandatory in> the treatment of prisoners and public mental patients following a lavish> lobbying campaign under the rubric of the Texas Medication Algorithm> Project by Big Pharma. According to Dr Lucire, the notion of applying> algorithms or "one size fits all" to a genetically diverse> population in the days of personalised medicine borders on> obscene.> > > What is

first and most needed in Australia's so far depressing, big> American, Pharma driven approach to depression is not more of the same> but less. Antidepressants used for anything less then severe depression,> and closely monitored, are an expensive, ineffective (less than three per> cent more effective than placebo in clinical trials presented to the US> Food and Drug Administration for their licensing) and dangerous family of> drugs whose side effects and addictive qualities have triggered a serious> crisis in public health - not least by an explosion of hospital beds for> unrecognised side effect casualties.> > > The highway to massive cost savings - and effective redirection of public> spending on mental health - is to break the addiction of psychiatrists,> doctors, medical bureaucracies and patients to the

notion that there is a> pill for every ill. Dr Lucire's professional martyrdom may well> continue short term. But developments in the US suggest that her brave> and brilliant efforts in this direction, however casually and cynically> denigrated, will eventually prevail here. There will be many and much to> answer for if justice for her and the Australian victims of the SSRI> scourge is long delayed.> > King is> convener of the West Papua Project at Sydney University and the author of> West Papua and Indonesia since Suharto: Independence, Autonomy or> Chaos? (UNSW> Press)> > © The National Forum and contributors 1999-2011.> All rights reserved.> > -- > > > > Best regards,> > > Eileen

Dannemann> > Director, National Coalition of Organized Women> > www.ProgressiveConvergence.com> > www.VaccineLiberationArmy.com> 319 855-0307>

[Guest guest]

still growing vaccines on monkey parts - called Vero Cells - for one is

Baxter's flu vax in UK that was just recalled

http://biotech.about.com/od/faq/f/VeroCells.htm

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15780743

http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/ac/00/backgrd/3616b1a.pdf

http://blogs.terrapinn.com/vaccinenation/2011/03/04/baxters-vero-cell-seasonal-flu-vaccine-preflucel-approved-13-european-countries/

Sheri

At 03:44 PM 10/28/2011, you wrote:

I dont know if you want to be

trusting of any medical facility who is now working on using animal dna

to reproduce human body parts for transplatation. Remember

what happened with growing vaccines on monkey dna?

Simean virus in our kids.

From: " DavAliNee@... "

To: EOHarm

Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 1:26 PM

Subject: Re: Re: this is so big that I don't think you

are all " getting it " yet-Eileen Dannemann, so I repeat.

interesting thank you.

this is so big that I don't think you are all

" getting it " yet-Eileen Dannemann, so I repeat.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> and what about the tylenol that is given before and after vaccines

(which

> depletes glutathione from liver, which is necessary for

detox)?

>

> Sheri

>

>

>

>

>

> Dr. Yolande Lucire is in our network. She is a foresensic

> psychiatrist, Phd researcher in pharmacogenetics. She

basically

> saved my son Dannemann who was misdiagnosed as bipolar

after

> experimenting with LSD at 19 years old. He was in and out of

the

> University of Iowa psyche ward; given drugs like Haldol,

Tradazone,

> Adavan....all requiring the gene Cytochrome P450 2D6 to metabolize.

> For years he was being dumbed down and made incoherent until Dr.

Lucire

> facilitated a simple gene test (swabbing the mouth). He was

indeed

> missing all 2D6 activity and therefore was being poisoned and

having

> suicidal ideations, being arrested, thrown into the psyche wards.

> He is now recovering by withdrawing all prescription drugs....thanks

to

> Dr. Lucire.

>

>

> The interesting thing I found was that the glutathione pathway

implicated

> in vaccine injury/ Autism Spectrum is found on the same

cytochrome

> 450. Vaccines are so toxic that if someone is a poor

metabolizer

> they will sustain a vaccine injury; then get misdiagosed as ADHD,

ADD,

> etc and then given harmful life debilitating drugs.

>

> Why this is so HUGE...is because all of us know people

who

> are taking anti depressants, SSRIs, and ADHD medication, especially

the

> kids these days. Special needs education is at an all

time

> high!

>

>

> Kids who do street drugs to experiment like did and are

missing

> their 2D6 activity...act so strange that invariably the parent takes

them

> to the Doctor and they get their own prescription. And then they

get

> worse, apparently more psychotic, but that is because they

have no

> metabolic activity. As they appear more psychotic they get

more of

> a cocktail of drugs and their lives go down hill. This goes

for

> depressed adults too.

>

>

> Education and a standard of care protocol to test a person before

giving

> vaccines or psyche drugs has been suppressed in the medical industry

and

> to the public. Homicides, suicides are moving upward at an

alarming

> rate. Some drugs (and far from how many should be) are labled

as

> suicidal. That is because a substantial percentage of people who

are

> taking these drugs are poor metabolizers.

>

> Look at this link and on the Mayo clinic link- as much as 50%

of

> the psyche drugs need 2D6 to metabolize. This is a

pharma-medical

> coverup of an egregious kinds. There is also a list of the drugs

that

> must be metabolized by 2D6.

>

>

> Missing 2D6 is not a debility. I believe it is an

evolutionary

> issue. 30% of Tanzanian Africans have evolved to

have

> multiple 2D6 because they eat a lot of weeds as growing food is

difficult

> in that area. So they are basically eating alot of

source

> medication. They have become ULTRA RAPID

METABOLIZERS.

>

> Those who are found to be poor metabolizers, missing 2D6

should

> not be vaccinated; should not use street or prescription

drugs;

> should stay away from toxic substances and eat organic food.

> Notice that these are the natural attitudes of the enlightened.

> Nature slam dunks the highly moral and spiritual when they stray

from the

> high path...I think the missing 2D6 is a corresponding physical

condition

> of a certain spiritual proclivity and a blessing for all

those

> incarnating into the greatest DRUG EPOCH in the history of

mankind.

>

>

> If you or your loved ones are having " apparent "

> mental problems get tested. It cost only $290.00 at this time

in

> Australia at the lab Dr. Lucire uses. Read more on our

site

> about 2D6, Dr. Lucire's recent published study (riveting) on

homicides

> and 2D6, and the Mayo Clinic:

>

>

http://vaccineliberationarmy.com/?s=2D6

>

>

> Below read about the great australian whistleblow, Dr. Yolande

Lucire who

> is in our network.

>

>

>

>

>

http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=11394

>

> ON LINEopinion - Australia's

> e-journal of social and political debate

>

>

> Whistleblower in Coventry: Dr Yolande Lucire and Big

> PharmaBy King

> Posted Monday, 20 December 2010

>

> Australia lags well behind the US and Britain in facing up to

the

> malfeasance of multinational drug companies pushing unsafe products.

Very

> often Big Pharma itself has largely conjured up the booming markets

in

> which its dubious drugs offer expensive treatment for dubious

medical

> conditions.

>

>

> The biggest and most lucrative scandals have been in two types

of

> second-generation drugs: anti-depressants or SSRIs - Prozac,

Paxil,

> Zoloft, etc, and " atypical " antipsychotics such as

Zyprexa,

> Risperdal and Seroquel which were known from their licensing to

be

> ineffective for the vast majority of clinical trial subjects and up

to

> twice as bad for inducing suicide as antidepressants.

>

>

> The corrupt drug trial and marketing practices of Big Pharma

include

> imaginary science (the serotonin deficiency theory of

depression),

> systematic suppression of lethal side effects (akathisia -

> cannot-sit-down restlessness - leading to suicidal ideation, suicide

and

> murder) and a multi-billion dollar success over the past generation

in

> medicalising the ordinary ups and downs of the human

psyche.

>

>

> Feeling sad? ( " Moderate depression " , worthy of a happy

little

> Zoloft rock.) Diffident? ( " Social anxiety disorder " ,

try

> Aropax.) If antidepressants cured any significant number of people

there

> would be significantly less cost and less demand for mental

health

> services in Australia. Whether from inadequate or

tendentious

> pharmacology training, laziness, busyness, greed driven by

willed

> ignorance or even misplaced conviction, the medical profession

has

> succumbed to the cynical marketing and the targeted blandishments of

the

> pharmaceutical companies.

>

>

> Medical and scientific journals from Nature to The New

England

> Journal of Medicine allowed their columns to be infiltrated for

years

> by blatantly dishonest research reporting and ghost written

articles

> commissioned in Pharma-land but signed by distinguished

professors

> frequently in receipt of seven-figure research and consultancy

funding.

> Most of these journals do now take another tack, debunking Pharma

claims

> and exposing fraudulence. But many medical professional bodies are

still

> being subsidised beyond hope of objective dealing with the issue of

mass

> iatrogenesis caused by dud drugs andmultiple drug

prescribing

> ( " polypharmacy " ), and particularly with the lethal side

effects

> of anti-depressants.

>

>

> The key drug regulator in the US - and the planet - the United

States

> Food and Drug Administration (US FDA) has failed to purge

the

> Pharma-friendly experts who have dominated its rulings up to now.

Our own

> Therapeutic Goods Administration obediently follows suit, also

licensing

> drugs largely on information provided by their makers. But in

America the

> going has been getting perceptibly harder for the drug

> companies.

>

>

> Whistleblowers, class actions and litigious state governments

confronting

> ballooning health costs have been taking a toll on profits. Pfizer

was

> recently fined $US2.3 billion for fraudulently promoting four

drugs

> including the " antipsychotic " Zeldox last year. This fine

is

> seriously denting Pfizer's bottom (net income) line of $US8 billion,

and

> whistleblowers, including former Pfizer employees, collected over

$US100

> million for their pains in this case - a big threat to Pharma for

the

> future.

>

>

> Although such a fine has been described in a recent British

Medical

> Journal as " firing 22s into the arse of a rhino " and

Pfizer

> has been called " too big to nail " (only a Pfizer

subsidiary

> pleaded guilty to criminal charges), drug companies face a rising

tide of

> multi-billion dollar class actions and the prospect of new laws

which

> could put them out of business. The original whistleblowers who

were

> listened to have made the key difference in the United States.

> Whitaker traced the suicide epidemic and mental health cost

blow-out

> following the launch of Prozac in 1988. The quiet Irishman,

Healy,

> exposed drug trial fakery and the vast, hidden collateral damage

of

> pharma's SSRI bonanza in the 1990s and later.

>

>

> These two and others have engineered a paradigm shift in

public

> understanding, and professorial heads in receipt of

undeclared

> consultancy riches have started to roll at research institutes

and

> universities in the US, including even Harvard. According to the

New

> York Times, Dr ph Biederman, the pioneer of

" aggressive

> diagnosis and drug treatment of childhood bipolar

disorder " ,

> failed to

> report most of the $1.6 million he received in pharma funding

over

> several years while at Harvard.

>

> The single person who has been trying hardest to fill the

> Whitaker/Healy whistleblower gap in Australia is Sydney

psychiatrist, Dr

> Yolande Lucire. Thirteen years ago she began to notice

alarmingly

> high hospital admission and suicide rates among patients treated

with

> SSRIs and atypical antipsychotics in New South Wales's Greater

Southern

> Area Health Service. Since then she has been fighting back against

the

> Pharma-driven psychiatric consensus that treating with SSRIs is safe

and

> effective, working hard to wean patient-victims as well as

their

> prescribers off the drugs.

>

> She has steadily accumulated damning statistics on suicide,

homicide

> and hospitalisation rates among these patients in New South

Wales.

> More recently it has become clear that a large percentage of people

being

> treated with antidepressants can't metabolise them due to common

genetic

> mutations. Dr Lucire has been campaigning to introduce systematic

doctor

> education in order to minimise promiscuous and uninformed

anti-depressant

> prescribing. With her complaints, findings and warnings about lack

of

> action, Dr Lucire has been assiduously lobbying her colleagues,

the

> Medical Board and the Health Care Complaints Commission of NSW,

the

> Adverse Drug Reactions Advisory Committee (ADRAC) of the

federal

> Therapeutic Goods Administration and a clutch of ministers, both

state

> and federal, for many years. Most recently she has been

providing

> redacted files on her own extensive sample of DNA swab-tested

relapsing

> patients suffering from the side effects of SSRIs and

> polypharmacy.

>

> And she has had one notable victory in the political arena.

Under

> pressure from Dr Lucire, the secretary of Health and Ageing set up

an

> inquiry early in 2009 into 90 of her serious adverse drug

reaction

> reports, which occurred mainly in normal folk treated for stress

and

> other vicissitudes of life and who had become suicidal and/or

homicidal

> on antidepressants. The Psychiatric Drug Safety Expert Advisory

Panel

> reported in December last year, confirming her concerns about

the

> near-universality of ignorant polypharmacy and dangerous

gene-based

> drug-drug interactions leading to akathisia, suicide and homicide

and all

> the mental states preceding them.But its recommendations are

still

> waiting to be noticed by the NSW Medical Board and Department

of

> Health.

>

>

> So far the Medical Board seems to have quite other ideas about

Dr

> Lucire's contribution to public health than the Advisory Panel. In

July

> 2007 one of the many patients she was trying to save from another

bout of

> potentially lethal akathisia killed her own father and sister. In

her

> view, this patient's akathisia was initially caused by the

polypharmacy

> which had previously aggravated her mental condition. But this case

led

> to Medical Board proceedings against her. She has concerns about

the

> board's procedures and why she is being targeted.

>

>

> At the core of her alleged delinquency are charges that she has

failed to

> recognise that SSRI treatment is " standard practice " -

also

> " best practice " ; that she has " unusual beliefs (read:

not

> good for the professional bottom line) about the side effects

of

> psychotropic medication " ; that she is " lacking in respect

for

> colleagues' diagnoses " , and has been " guilty of

destroying

> patients " confidence in their treating doctor " (while

saving

> their sanity and/or lives, could we add?).

>

>

> Galileo would have been familiar with this kind of stuff. What

Dr

> Lucire's hostile critics, like Galileo's, have not done is

respond

> professionally to her criticisms in scientific terms. Could they

be

> scared of the result? Dr Lucire continues to draw attention to the

causes

> of the public mental health problem, albeit at times in a naive,

didactic

> or exasperated manner, as she admits herself. She has good grounds

for

> paranoia, but she is unwise to be forever saying that no-one takes

any

> notice of her (fully justified) Cassandra-like warnings. The

Expert

> Advisory Panel did; some fair-minded journalists do, and also

a

> sprinkling of academics in science based disciplines.

>

>

> She is appealing the latest tribunal decision in the Supreme Court

of New

> South Wales backed with character references by a Who's Who of

people

> wise to the ways of corporate money in the medical professions

and

> familiar with the differences between majority views and what

is

> scientifically established in psychiatry. Dr Lucire also persists

in

> trying to stymie the campaign currently building around the country

to

> drastically expand hospital and clinical services for the

mentally

> ill.

>

>

> Prominent in this campaign are Australian of the Year 2010,

Professor

> McGorry of Melbourne University and headspace, and

> Professor Ian Hickie of the Brain and Mind Research Institute at

Sydney

> University and the SPHERE national depression initiative.

>

> McGorry is a proponent of early drug intervention to

combat

> youth depression. Ian Hickie is an outspoken and genuinely

concerned

> intervener in a wide array of debates on the social health of

Australia

> and Australians, most recently concerning the fate of badly

accommodated

> university students.

>

>

> But his Brain and Mind Institute was lately discovered by

TheAustralian to be

>

> housingLifeblood, a private company helping the pharmacy

> industry spend $75 million on " doctors'

education " .

> Lifeblood has boasted on its website that SPHERE, " a

mental

> health program undertaken by 12,000 GPs since 1998 " , of which

both

> Pfizer and the Brain and Mind Research Institute are commercial

partners,

> has restored Pfizer's Zoloft to market leadership in the

anti-depressant

> stakes. Hickie himself was the architect of the controversial

(and

> Bristol Myers Squibb funded) " depression screening tool "

(a

> checklist of questions for GPs) used in SPHERE.

>

>

> How awkward this all must be for his institute - and for your (and

my)

> Sydney University, which also boasts a Pfizer/PPF Chair of

Pharmacy

> Management and a Pfizer Australian Chair in Clinical Pharmacy.

Professor

> Hickie also co-authored the Royal Australian and New Zealand College

of

> Psychiatrists' original (2003) recommended guidelines for treatment

of

> depression, whose clarion call was: " Depression is common,

serious

> and treatable. It affects 1 in 25 people in any 1 month. "

These

> RANZCP guidelines recommended that even " moderately

severe "

> depression should be treated with Nefazadone, a drug which was

withdrawn

> four months later because of fatal side effects. Very few specific

side

> effects or drug-drug interactions were reported in these

guidelines,

> which have been only cosmetically improved in their 2009 version for

the

> “coconsumer and carerâ€ï¿½.

>

>

>> The RANZCP guidelines (and near identical ones around the world)

emerged

> from the Texas of Governor W Bush where they became mandatory

in

> the treatment of prisoners and public mental patients following a

lavish

> lobbying campaign under the rubric of the Texas Medication

Algorithm

> Project by Big Pharma. According to Dr Lucire, the notion of

applying

> algorithms or " one size fits all " to a genetically

diverse

> population in the days of personalised medicine borders on

> obscene.

>

>

> What is first and most needed in Australia's so far depressing,

big

> American, Pharma driven approach to depression is not more of the

same

> but less. Antidepressants used for anything less then severe

depression,

> and closely monitored, are an expensive, ineffective (less than

three per

> cent more effective than placebo in clinical trials presented to the

US

> Food and Drug Administration for their licensing) and dangerous

family of

> drugs whose side effects and addictive qualities have triggered a

serious

> crisis in public health - not least by an explosion of hospital beds

for

> unrecognised side effect casualties.

>

>

> The highway to massive cost savings - and effective redirection of

public

> spending on mental health - is to break the addiction of

psychiatrists,

> doctors, medical bureaucracies and patients to the notion that there

is a

> pill for every ill. Dr Lucire's professional martyrdom may

well

> continue short term. But developments in the US suggest that her

brave

> and brilliant efforts in this direction, however casually and

cynically

> denigrated, will eventually prevail here. There will be many and

much to

> answer for if justice for her and the Australian victims of the

SSRI

> scourge is long delayed.

>

> King is

> convener of the West Papua Project at Sydney University and the

author of

> West Papua and Indonesia since Suharto: Independence, Autonomy

or

> Chaos? (UNSW

> Press)

>

> © The National Forum and contributors 1999-2011.

> All rights reserved.

>

> --

>

>

>

> Best regards,

>

>

Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian

Homeopath

Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Washington State, USA

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[Guest guest]

Point taken on the monkey virus, but I would also like to point out one more

thing about the implications of P450 enzymes and our kids (and lots of us!)

I have older kids than many of you. Mine are now 19 and 23. My sn comes

closest to a dx on the autism spectrum with his on again, off again label

PDD-NOS. Daughter with (among many other health issues) " ADHD. "

NEVER, in the last 20 years that I have been at this, would I have imagined my

kids would wind up on psyche drugs. However, that's just what has happened.

(Son: ativan for panic attacks, which I feel are related, not to " mental health "

issues, but to autonomic system toxicity. Daughter considering ADHD drugs.)

Despite their current lack of ability to make good decisions on many levels, The

Law considers them autonomous adults in these matters, free to make their own

medical decisions. And, they do. Both in a way that looks first for the

quickest " fix, " without regard for what comes tomorrow.

So, my thought in getting these tests lies almost entirely in having a weapon of

defense against both physicians they may choose to see in the future, and

something to give them pause, IF the tests are positive for these polymorphisms.

HOWEVER - and I think this is a big one, as I know many of us do wind up using

some of these drugs for our kids, especially, when all else has failed - the

enzymes that are the focus of these tests can be blocked, genetic polymorphisms

or not. A negative on these tests does NOT equate to a green light for drugs

like SSRIs, etc. for the person. A person's toxic burden will also influence

enzyme activity, as we all find out, sooner or later when we don't get the

expected result from some simple intervention.

I'm offering this paragraph from the toxicology text,

Principles of toxicology: environmental and industrial applications

By L. , C. , M. , at page 78:

" In addition to substrate-binding (active) site inhibition, drug metabolizing

capability can be reduced by cosubstrate or cofactor depletion (e.g.

glutathione, SO4, NAD+), by their diversion to other biochemical pathways, or by

an inhibition of enzymes responsible for their formation. In laboratory

investigations, glutathione conjugation can be inhibited by either buithionine

sulfoximine, which inhibits the synthesis of glutathione; or diethylmaleate,

which sequesters available glutathione. Galactosamine, prior to its heptotoxic

effect, can deplete UDPGA by sequestering UTP. For multi-component reactions,

the xenobiotic metabolism reaction can be in habited at a distance) e.g.,

cytochrome P450 oxidations can be inhibited by the interruption of electron flow

by heavy-metal ions, such as mercury, because the flavoprotein contains a more

susceptible sulfhydryl group). Since xenobiotic metabolism is catalyzed by

enzymes, many of the reactions can be inhibited nonselectively by protein

denaturants such as heavy-metal ions and detergents, the degree of inhibition

depending on the concentration. For enzymes that require a suitable membrane

environment for activity, xenobiotics with lipid solvent properties can inhibit

activity by destroying that necessary environment. Changes in lipid often lead

to conformational changes that alter activity. " (pg 78)

>

> still growing vaccines on monkey parts - called

[Guest guest]

- In what part of the US do you reside?To: EOHarm Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2011 1:58 PMSubject: Re: this is so big that I don't think you are all

"getting it" yet-Eileen Dannemann, so I repeat.

Point taken on the monkey virus, but I would also like to point out one more thing about the implications of P450 enzymes and our kids (and lots of us!)I have older kids than many of you. Mine are now 19 and 23. My sn comes closest to a dx on the autism spectrum with his on again, off again label PDD-NOS. Daughter with (among many other health issues) "ADHD."NEVER, in the last 20 years that I have been at this, would I have imagined my kids would wind up on psyche drugs. However, that's just what has happened. (Son: ativan for panic attacks, which I feel are related, not to "mental health" issues, but to autonomic system toxicity. Daughter considering ADHD drugs.) Despite their current lack of ability to make good decisions on many levels, The Law considers them autonomous adults in these matters, free to make their own medical decisions. And, they do. Both in a way that looks first for the

quickest "fix," without regard for what comes tomorrow.So, my thought in getting these tests lies almost entirely in having a weapon of defense against both physicians they may choose to see in the future, and something to give them pause, IF the tests are positive for these polymorphisms.HOWEVER - and I think this is a big one, as I know many of us do wind up using some of these drugs for our kids, especially, when all else has failed - the enzymes that are the focus of these tests can be blocked, genetic polymorphisms or not. A negative on these tests does NOT equate to a green light for drugs like SSRIs, etc. for the person. A person's toxic burden will also influence enzyme activity, as we all find out, sooner or later when we don't get the expected result from some simple intervention.I'm offering this paragraph from the toxicology text,Principles of toxicology: environmental and industrial

applications By L. , C. , M. , at page 78:" In addition to substrate-binding (active) site inhibition, drug metabolizing capability can be reduced by cosubstrate or cofactor depletion (e.g. glutathione, SO4, NAD+), by their diversion to other biochemical pathways, or by an inhibition of enzymes responsible for their formation. In laboratory investigations, glutathione conjugation can be inhibited by either buithionine sulfoximine, which inhibits the synthesis of glutathione; or diethylmaleate, which sequesters available glutathione. Galactosamine, prior to its heptotoxic effect, can deplete UDPGA by sequestering UTP. For multi-component reactions, the xenobiotic metabolism reaction can be in habited at a distance) e.g., cytochrome P450 oxidations can be inhibited by the interruption of electron flow by heavy-metal ions, such as mercury, because the flavoprotein contains a more

susceptible sulfhydryl group). Since xenobiotic metabolism is catalyzed by enzymes, many of the reactions can be inhibited nonselectively by protein denaturants such as heavy-metal ions and detergents, the degree of inhibition depending on the concentration. For enzymes that require a suitable membrane environment for activity, xenobiotics with lipid solvent properties can inhibit activity by destroying that necessary environment. Changes in lipid often lead to conformational changes that alter activity." (pg 78) >> still growing vaccines on monkey parts - called ------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

Michigan

>

> - In what part of the US do you reside?

>