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"I just realized I have never had a relationship with a woman that lasted longer than that between Hitler and Eva Braun"

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Dear M,You wrote . . . anyone help me?I don't know. But thank you for bringing this to our group. I can help me by looking in this mirror and share my work with you:> By nature i am a very outspoken/candid person, i have had to leave > several jobs in the past, and i have a hard time keeping long term > friendships/relationships simply because i tell people what they do > not want to know about themselves or others. Oh this is sooo me. And I just ended a relationship with a man with whom I have been on and off for 3 years. I found a wonderful turn around in your statement. I have a hard time keeping long term friendships/relationships when I tell myself what I do not want to know about myself and others. The relationship ended for me when I could tell myself that I was abusing me by trying to meet his expectations that were not my truth. I let him dominate me in every aspect of our relationship because I wanted something from him - his approval and total submission to my wishes. Boing! How cruel to me and to him I was.> I have a much easier time getting along with people now than i used > to in the past, and the simplest thing to do is to be true to the > moment. But in an environment where most people want to cover their > ass and do what needs to be done to get along, how does one manage to > be honest to one's own self and get along at the same time?A really nice turn-around I find for myself here is - where I want to cover my ass AND do what needs to be done to get along. Herein lies the place I become totally artificial because it is not possible for me. No wonder people don't hang with me. I have found that doing the Work has brought me to a wonderful place of peace around needing to get along. Now I listen with more presence to what people have to say, and in that moment I know I am in my truth, not judging, just listening to their truth. And, I find that most people now really get that I am present and listening and that nourishes them and me. And I am left with understanding, true understanding that really cannot be put into words about who this person is and I have freed both of us by not having this impossible agenda of trying to get along with someone. has mentioned, and I will probably mis-quote her here, in tapes and at events that I have heard her do the Work, that depression is a result of wanting two things at once. I have found this observation to be true, and when that tell-tale feeling of depression starts to creep into my sensory awareness, I just look at the contradictions in front of me and do the Work on them.What a gift and thank you dear M. I thank me that I took the time to check the messages this morning,Lovingly,

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Giggles back:) Woody is so right-on with relationships sometimes.

Thank you for this,

> Dear M,

>

> You wrote

>

> . . . anyone help me?

>

> I don't know. But thank you for bringing this to our group. I can

> help me by looking in this mirror and share my work with you:

>

> > By nature i am a very outspoken/candid person, i have had to

leave

> > several jobs in the past, and i have a hard time keeping long

term

> > friendships/relationships simply because i tell people what

they do

> > not want to know about themselves or others.

>

> Oh this is sooo me. And I just ended a relationship with a man

with

> whom I have been on and off for 3 years. I found a wonderful

turn

> around in your statement. I have a hard time keeping long term

> friendships/relationships when I tell myself what I do not want

to

> know about myself and others. The relationship ended for me when

I

> could tell myself that I was abusing me by trying to meet his

> expectations that were not my truth. I let him dominate me in

every

> aspect of our relationship because I wanted something from him -

his

> approval and total submission to my wishes. Boing! How cruel to

me

> and to him I was.

>

> > I have a much easier time getting along with people now than i

used

> > to in the past, and the simplest thing to do is to be true to

the

> > moment. But in an environment where most people want to cover

their

> > ass and do what needs to be done to get along, how does one

manage

> to

> > be honest to one's own self and get along at the same time?

>

> A really nice turn-around I find for myself here is - where I

want to

> cover my ass AND do what needs to be done to get along. Herein

lies

> the place I become totally artificial because it is not possible

for

> me. No wonder people don't hang with me.

>

> I have found that doing the Work has brought me to a wonderful

place

> of peace around needing to get along. Now I listen with more

> presence to what people have to say, and in that moment I know I

am

> in my truth, not judging, just listening to their truth. And, I

find

> that most people now really get that I am present and listening

and

> that nourishes them and me. And I am left with understanding,

true

> understanding that really cannot be put into words about who this

> person is and I have freed both of us by not having this

impossible

> agenda of trying to get along with someone.

>

> has mentioned, and I will probably mis-quote her here, in

tapes

> and at events that I have heard her do the Work, that depression

is a

> result of wanting two things at once. I have found this

observation

> to be true, and when that tell-tale feeling of depression starts

to

> creep into my sensory awareness, I just look at the

contradictions in

> front of me and do the Work on them.

>

> What a gift and thank you dear M. I thank me that I took the time

to

> check the messages this morning,

>

> Lovingly,

>

>

>

>

>

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I think the work is great! I try to not focus on much, and focus on me.

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Giggles back:) Woody is so right-on with relationships sometimes.Thank you for this,> Dear M,> > You wrote > > . . . anyone help me?> > I don't know. But thank you for bringing this to our group. I can > help me by looking in this mirror and share my work with you:> > > By nature i am a very outspoken/candid person, i have had to leave > > several jobs in the past, and i have a hard time keeping long term > > friendships/relationships simply because i tell people what they do > > not want to know about themselves or others. > > Oh this is sooo me. And I just ended a relationship with a man with > whom I have been on and off for 3 years. I found a wonderful turn > around in your statement. I have a hard time keeping long term > friendships/relationships when I tell myself what I do not want to > know about myself and others. The relationship ended for me when I > could tell myself that I was abusing me by trying to meet his > expectations that were not my truth. I let him dominate me in every > aspect of our relationship because I wanted something from him - his > approval and total submission to my wishes. Boing! How cruel to me > and to him I was.> > > I have a much easier time getting along with people now than i used > > to in the past, and the simplest thing to do is to be true to the > > moment. But in an environment where most people want to cover their > > ass and do what needs to be done to get along, how does one manage > to > > be honest to one's own self and get along at the same time?> > A really nice turn-around I find for myself here is - where I want to > cover my ass AND do what needs to be done to get along. Herein lies > the place I become totally artificial because it is not possible for > me. No wonder people don't hang with me. > > I have found that doing the Work has brought me to a wonderful place > of peace around needing to get along. Now I listen with more > presence to what people have to say, and in that moment I know I am > in my truth, not judging, just listening to their truth. And, I find > that most people now really get that I am present and listening and > that nourishes them and me. And I am left with understanding, true > understanding that really cannot be put into words about who this > person is and I have freed both of us by not having this impossible > agenda of trying to get along with someone.> > has mentioned, and I will probably mis-quote her here, in tapes > and at events that I have heard her do the Work, that depression is a > result of wanting two things at once. I have found this observation > to be true, and when that tell-tale feeling of depression starts to > creep into my sensory awareness, I just look at the contradictions in > front of me and do the Work on them.> > What a gift and thank you dear M. I thank me that I took the time to > check the messages this morning,> > Lovingly,> > > > >

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  • 2 years later...

Hi Sunil,

Welcome the MGIMS egroup.

I remember you very well.

I hope U remember me.

Did you attend or miss the 1979 Silver jubilee. ?

I am a Radiologist In mumbai in private practice.

My Wife is Mita a housewife.

My Daughter is Kinjal who is doing 2nd year Dentistry at Loni near shirdi.

My Son Vrajang is appearing for his SSC this year.

More in future mails.

Keep in touch.

Best regards

Raju Shah

1978 batch.

Hello

Joining the great group 'MGIMS'. Looking forward to be in touch with old & new

friends.

Sunil Jain (1979)

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Thanks Raju. How can I forget 1978 batch. Everything is so fresh. Do you know

anybody who is in USA?

No, I could not go for silver jubilee function.

Nice to know about your family.

I am working as a Neonatologist in St Louis University & my wife (Sangeeta) is a

perinatologist (maternal fetal medicine). We have two boys, Aman (12) & Akshay

(9).

Keep in touch.

Sunil (1979)

Phone (cell)

(Home)

Deepak shah/Raju Shah wrote: Hi Sunil,

Welcome the MGIMS egroup.

I remember you very well.

I hope U remember me.

Did you attend or miss the 1979 Silver jubilee. ?

I am a Radiologist In mumbai in private practice.

My Wife is Mita a housewife.

My Daughter is Kinjal who is doing 2nd year Dentistry at Loni near shirdi.

My Son Vrajang is appearing for his SSC this year.

More in future mails.

Keep in touch.

Best regards

Raju Shah

1978 batch.

Hello

Joining the great group 'MGIMS'. Looking forward to be in touch with old & new

friends.

Sunil Jain (1979)

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A big Hi! and welcome to the group!

Prabha'84 and Skand'82

Sunil Jain wrote:

Joining the great group 'MGIMS'. Looking forward to be in touch with old & new

friends.

Sunil Jain (1979)

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Hi, so I just signed up to your group. My 10 yo son was diagnosed with ADD

about 3 years ago and I've just realized that these things he does I considered

habits are actually more like tics. My son does have OCD tendencies but I'm not

sure he has full on OCD but I am concerned that his tics will get worse. In

reading the messages, I think his case is rather mild. He is always doing

something, mostly with his face or some kind of sound. He recently went from

" stretching " his eyes and kinda looking side to side to doing what sounds like

hawking a loogie (not loud or anything, just barely, almost like clearing his

throat). In the past, he's had the habit of making little squeaking sounds,

grinding his teeth...random stuff like that. he usually only does one at a

time.

I am trying to go the biomedical route and wante to know if anyone knows if

maybe a deficiency of some kind of nutrient might be causing this. I don't

believe it's so bad that I would consider medication because it does not seem to

take over or anything like that. besides, my husband is totally against

medication and will not even consider it. Does anyone have any comments, or

advice on how I can help him stop these tics without the use of medication? He

is currently taking vitamin supplements as well as fish oil. they have helped

with the inattentiveness from the ADD but so far, I have not seen any change in

those tics. he's had them as farback as I can remember.

thank you so much. from reading the messages before posting this question, this

group sounds like an awesome support system... :)

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