Guest guest Posted July 10, 2002 Report Share Posted July 10, 2002 Gentlemen, Excuse me for jumping in here but I maintain that since A-no entity or any kind can experience what has not happened and B-we are manifestly experiencing all the time we are, ergo, God's experiencors. What say you? Most cordially, Mazza Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2002 Report Share Posted July 10, 2002 Dear Val, I had one NDE (drowning) when I was a kid. Probably learned a lot from it but I maintain that logic can take anyone a long, long way to understanding (different from experiencing). Check out my websit (www.logicaljoy.com) and note the Preface to (she gave me permission) and the links to The Work. Ain't life grand? Most cordially, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2002 Report Share Posted July 10, 2002 Iblix, I love this piece by Ken Wilber..I read it when he first published it in Shambhala Sun several years ago...My thoughts about philosophy don't apply to something that directs attention as Ken's words here do..I agree this is am example of pointing out instruction as its called in Tibetan Buddhism...My comments were directed not at words that direct attention but at words that suggest content for thinking such as " Reality is like this " or " Enlightenminet is so and so " Or " Our true nature is such and such " ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2002 Report Share Posted July 10, 2002 I'm no gentleman - but thought I'd respond anyway . . . . , your statements reminded me of one of my favorite passages from " Lessons from the Light " by Ring. It's a quote from a NDE'r named Mellen- Benedict: " The interesting point was that I went into the Void, I came back with this understanding that God is not there. God is here! That's what it's all about. So this constant search of the human race to go out and find God . . . Got gave everything to us, everything is here - this is where it's at. And what we are into now is God's exploration of God through us. People are so busy trying to become God that they ought to realize (Mellen was obviously not into BK at the time - ed.) that we are already God and God is becoming us. That's what it's really about. " Best, Re: So who are you? Gentlemen, Excuse me for jumping in here but I maintain that since A-no entity or any kind can experience what has not happened and B-we are manifestly experiencing all the time we are, ergo, God's experiencors. What say you? Most cordially, Mazza Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2002 Report Share Posted July 10, 2002 , There is a precedent for the use of logic in the way I think you are suggesting...In Tibetan Buddhism, there is a tradition called Madhyamika, which is a form of logical examination/analysis the results in non-dual conclusions...I studied it in school and could probably find the names of the texts if you're interested (I've forgotten them)...I do remember one of them had commentaries by the Dalai Lama. You might even do a search on Madhyamika and the Dalai Lama and turn it up... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2002 Report Share Posted July 10, 2002 Sounds like another belief to me. Re: So who are you? Gentlemen, Excuse me for jumping in here but I maintain that since A-no entity or any kind can experience what has not happened and B-we are manifestly experiencing all the time we are, ergo, God's experiencors. What say you? Most cordially, Mazza Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2002 Report Share Posted July 11, 2002 wow...how cool. I loved this passage and wrote down the name of the book, I'm going to try and find it because this really spoke to me. I'm the jealous one just to remind you...and where Ring writes, <<And what we are into now is God's exploration of God through us>> well... I have to realize that I'm not going to find my true self in the swimming pool or the house or the car. thank you for your post! p.s. sorry about my email to my pal Amy, I sent it to this address by mistake! I can just imagine you all reading it and wondering....what the heck is that about? my apologies... Reply-To: Loving-what-is Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 22:49:29 -0400 To: <Loving-what-is > Subject: Re: So who are you? I'm no gentleman - but thought I'd respond anyway . . . . , your statements reminded me of one of my favorite passages from " Lessons from the Light " by Ring. It's a quote from a NDE'r named Mellen- Benedict: " The interesting point was that I went into the Void, I came back with this understanding that God is not there. God is here! That's what it's all about. So this constant search of the human race to go out and find God . . .. Got gave everything to us, everything is here - this is where it's at. And what we are into now is God's exploration of God through us. People are so busy trying to become God that they ought to realize (Mellen was obviously not into BK at the time - ed.) that we are already God and God is becoming us. That's what it's really about. " Best, Re: So who are you? Gentlemen, Excuse me for jumping in here but I maintain that since A-no entity or any kind can experience what has not happened and B-we are manifestly experiencing all the time we are, ergo, God's experiencors. What say you? Most cordially, Mazza Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2002 Report Share Posted July 11, 2002 I wish I could. I don't specifically remember what I wrote. I do remember enjoying the discussion and was having fun looking at my judgments and reading others. Sorry STeve Re: So who are you? Dear theslaw@... Would you amplify your remarks please? I'm not sure of what your demurrer means. Cordially, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2002 Report Share Posted July 12, 2002 Dear 'iblix' - Thank you so much for the wonderfully clear article by Ken Wilber. I have seldom seen such a lucid exposition. Love Katharine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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