Re: My Progress (BodyLogicMD Results)

[Guest guest]

Well I went and saw Dr. Honing at BodyLogicMD tonight. Apparently, the

branch here in Phoenix just opened in July, so talk about perfect

timing. The doctor talked with me about my issues for over an hour, it

was great to have a doctor just sit and discuss things without rushing

and handing out prescriptions.

Progress looks encouraging after comparing the two saliva tests. The

first one was done on July 19, the second done on August 30.. The

estradiol level went from 1.6 to 0.8 (range: 0.5-2.2), the testosterone

went from 74 to 88 (range: 44-148), and progesterone went from 43 to 70

(range: 12-100). The DHEAS is still too high at 32.7, the exact same

number I had the first time (range: 2-23), and the cortisol levels again

show way too much in the morning, only to drop way to low by noon

(adrenal fatigue).

What I did between the two tests was:

- Adrenal Fatigue vitamins and herbs 3 times per day

-Bunch of other herbs I threw in which may or may not help, once each

per day (fish oil, cordyceps, spirulina, royal jelly, ginko biloba,

ashitaba)

-Hormone gels for 2 weeks, then stopped

-ring of power (copper/zinc tubes worn around package)

-Altered diet to include tons of vegetables, less junk food

The blood tests showed that my luteinizing hormone, the stuff that

causes testosterone to be produced, was basically halted. His suggestion

was to cycle on and off of Clomid for a few weeks to see if it can be

kicked back on. I hate synthetic drugs, and gladly I found out that he

does also, but this seems like the logical course of action for the

moment. I mentioned having tried the gels, and he said that they could

work, except that they can't possibly fix anything, just supplement. We

also went over my insomnia, which he said might be causing the high

morning cortisol levels, and prescribed me some Lunesta.

As for the vitamin regimen, I said that I read Dr. 's Adrenal

Fatigue and have been taking the vitamins 3 times per day. He told me to

double it, and added magnesium to the list. I was also given a list of

foods to eat and watch out for, as well as some other info. I will take

another saliva test in 8 weeks and see the doctor again on December 7th.

Until then, I just have to keep up the diet, keep taking all the

vitamins, see if I can improve my sleep, and see if the clomid does

anything for the testosterone.

So, that's about it for now.

Shay

Shay O'Neil wrote:

>

> Hey everyone, sorry for the lack of updates. I've been in the process of

> moving, and between my new roommate being in the hospital for weeks and

> working overtime each day, I've had little time to do much.

>

> Anyways, I have a very good feeling that I am on the right track. I have

> completely fixed my depression in the last four months using research

> and personal experimentation, so that is taken care of. The next step is

> of course the sexual dysfunction, and I am confident that the route I am

> about to take will also cure it as well. I had mentioned taking tons of

> herbs, along with a set of adrenal support vitamins and minerals, and

> the hormone gels. And don't forget the Ring of Power!

>

> After experimenting for a few weeks, I have had very good results. In

> fact, more than 50% of my penile sensitivity returned, after having not

> been able to feel it at all for 8 months. Also returned was orgasm,

> super hard erections, morning erections, and sexual thoughts. I believe

> that the hormone gels are primarily responsible. I took them all for 14

> days (the max listed), then stopped. Interestingly enough, I had good

> results the week AFTER stopping. Then of course, much disappeared, most

> noticeably the sensitivity.

>

> I continued the rest of the stuff after stopping the gels, which does

> help, but not as much. The good news is that I have not been on anything

> for days, yet I am still having morning erections, sexual thoughts, and

> erections in general. It's been 3-4 weeks since I stopped the gels. The

> better news is the simple fact that I actually had penile sensitivity,

> meaning that hope is in sight.

>

> So, my next move was to find someone to guide me down this road without

> killing myself. I signed up at www.BodyLogicMD.com, a private medical

> practice that specialized in Adrenal Fatigue and Hormone Imbalance. I am

> re-taking another saliva test, along with a super comprehensive blood

> test, which the doctor will review before my September 21st appointment.

> I also get an online account where I post my whole history and symptoms.

> I didn't know such a place existed until stumbling upon it on the google

> ads last week when researching.

>

> I am so close I can almost feel it. (I had to throw that in.) I have

> stopped all vitamins and herbs so that I can take the saliva/blood tests

> clean and get accurate measures, but I'll definitely resume them once

> done.

>

> My only suggestion at the moment is to take a saliva test and test your

> hormones, like I did. I'll post more updates as things progress.

>

> Shay

>

> Shay O'Neil wrote:

> >

> > Progress is definitely good. Don't have time to fully explain at the

> > moment, but I have seen good signs. Multiple erections everyday, both

> > through touch and/or thoughts, sexual thoughts, the sensitivity comes

> > back to the shaft (and very slightly to the head), and I managed to get

> > a crush on this girl that works at a restaurant I went to a couple of

> > times. A feeling I haven't had in years.

> >

> > I'll explain more of how things are going in the next few days.

> >

> > Shay

> >

> > fastriffs wrote:

> > >

> > > What is Bowen's therapy?

> > > What is MSM?

> > > Where did you get these bio identical hormone gels?

> > > And how do you plan to cycle off of them?

> > > What kind of royal jelly are you using?

> > >

> > > How is your progress going today?

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Shay, keep an eye on your vision (no pun intended) while on Clomid.

I'm currently cycling on and off it, and I also did a " course " of it

about 18 months ago. It causes my vision to diminish slightly, and I

can also feel slight pressure behind the eyes. This is on just 25mg

twice a week. It's a very powerful drug. I actually just took a week

off and am planning on cutting back to 12.5mg twice a week.

Also, you will probably feel worse while on treatment (slight

depression/fatigue), but there seems to be a " rebound " effect, where

things start to kick in 2-3 days after your last dose. Try to be

patient.

Due to the side effects, I'm actually considering switching to

Nolvadex, which is another SERM. Some bodybuilders actually prefer

it over Clomid to kick in their testosterone after a steroid cycle.

It doesn't have the vision issues Clomid had as far as I know.

If you have any other questions, let me know. I think Clomid is

worth a shot.

Luther

> > > >

> > > > What is Bowen's therapy?

> > > > What is MSM?

> > > > Where did you get these bio identical hormone gels?

> > > > And how do you plan to cycle off of them?

> > > > What kind of royal jelly are you using?

> > > >

> > > > How is your progress going today?

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Two things:

Your LH would be low after a course of testosterone gel. This is a

normal response to exogenous testosterone.

Also, Lunesta is known to lower testosterone levels, so I would be

careful with that.

Vornan

> The blood tests showed that my luteinizing hormone, the stuff that

> causes testosterone to be produced, was basically halted. His

suggestion

> was to cycle on and off of Clomid for a few weeks to see if it can be

> kicked back on. I hate synthetic drugs, and gladly I found out that

he

> does also, but this seems like the logical course of action for the

> moment. I mentioned having tried the gels, and he said that they

could

> work, except that they can't possibly fix anything, just supplement.

We

> also went over my insomnia, which he said might be causing the high

> morning cortisol levels, and prescribed me some Lunesta.

>