Guest guest Posted June 25, 2002 Report Share Posted June 25, 2002 Gerry Brown wrote: >I love this discussion about form vs nothingness, as if they were two. I >agree mostly with you, Steve, except here... > " all choose simultaniosly, continuously ubiquitously two primal coexisting >dualities, living/dying, and union/seperation. " Is it possible, while we >live, to choose some other reality where there is only form or only silence? >They are one regardless of our preference, although I notice when the world >gets too hectic I yearn for silence and when I get bored with that I yearn >for some action. The fact that I often don't notice the silence inherent in >the kaleidoscopic din of existence doesn't diminish it. I'm confused in the >moment that I assign one aspect or the other more value, or even in the >moment when I think of them as one or the other. > >Gerry i don't see any way that we disagree. we are attracted to what we are attracted to when we are attracted to it. in balanced life this is self regulating,and all incorporating, in unbalanced life we become addicted to one aspect at the expense of our natural flows, the other parts of our self. it is in my view that the natural tendency/function of our conscious personal mind is to focus on details, a narrow focus on parts of the whole. this is a beautiful function. this beautiful function can have a draw back if we do not allow that focus to draw back and take in the whole picture, the way what we have seen in focus, then integrates with the whole. in thoughts about truth and understanding, it appears to me we can use our narrowly focused conscious minds to great effect of understanding, if we also bring out it's capabilities for incorporation of all that it has become aware of in it's function of focus on details. in other words when we are trying to understand something , and we are drawn to be intently focused on it, we will with a healthy open mind look at many aspects of it, the pros and cons, the high and low, the good and bad, the attractive and unattractive the action and the non action, etc., in this diving into the details of a matter, we learn much, we see much. in our minds greatest capabilities we see how it all fits together, works together. so it becomes an incorporation of all that we notice, expanding into understanding beyond an immature focus on choices between parts we are attracted to accepting and parts we do not accept. our mind is capable of both focus on detail, and incorporation of all details into the whole, if we are able to recognize our personal and universal identity. steve __________________________________________________________________ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2002 Report Share Posted June 25, 2002 ummmm...you guys are off topic....I can fix that though. See below. -- RE: something/nothing - THE WORK Gerry Brown wrote: >I love this discussion about form vs nothingness, as if they were two. I >agree mostly with you, Steve, except here... > " all choose simultaniosly, continuously ubiquitously two primal coexisting >dualities, living/dying, and union/seperation. " Is it possible, while we >live, to choose some other reality where there is only form or only silence? >They are one regardless of our preference, although I notice when the world >gets too hectic I yearn for silence and when I get bored with that I yearn >for some action. The fact that I often don't notice the silence inherent in >the kaleidoscopic din of existence doesn't diminish it. I'm confused in the >moment that I assign one aspect or the other more value, or even in the >moment when I think of them as one or the other. > >Gerry THE WORK THE WORK THE WORK i don't see any way that we disagree. we are attracted to what we are attracted to when we are attracted to it. in balanced life this is self regulating,and all incorporating, in unbalanced life we become addicted to one aspect at the expense of our natural flows, the other parts of our self. THE WORK THE WORK THE WORK it is in my view that the natural tendency/function of our conscious personal mind is to focus on details, a narrow focus on parts of the whole. this is a beautiful function. this beautiful function can have a draw back if we do not allow that focus to draw back and take in the whole picture, the way what we have seen in focus, then integrates with the whole. THE WORK THE WORK THE WORK in thoughts about truth and understanding, it appears to me we can use our narrowly focused conscious minds to great effect of understanding, if we also bring out it's capabilities for incorporation of all that it has become aware of in it's function of focus on details. in other words when we are trying to understand something , and we are drawn to be intently focused on it, we will with a healthy open mind look at many aspects of it, the pros and cons, the high and low, the good and bad, the attractive and unattractive the action and the non action, etc., in this diving into the details of a matter, we learn much, we see much. in our minds greatest capabilities we see how it all fits together, works together. so it becomes an incorporation of all that we notice, expanding into understanding beyond an immature focus on choices between parts we are attracted to accepting and parts we do not accept. our mind is capable of both focus on detail, and incorporation of all details into the whole, if we are able to recognize our personal and universal identity. steve Ok guys...all fixed..that should do it. teeheehee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2002 Report Share Posted June 25, 2002 > I love this discussion about form vs nothingness, as if they were two. I > agree mostly with you, Steve, except here... > " all choose simultaniosly, continuously ubiquitously two primal coexisting > dualities, living/dying, and union/seperation. " Is it possible, while we > live, to choose some other reality where there is only form or only silence? > They are one regardless of our preference, although I notice when the world > gets too hectic I yearn for silence and when I get bored with that I yearn > for some action. The fact that I often don't notice the silence inherent in > the kaleidoscopic din of existence doesn't diminish it. I'm confused in the > moment that I assign one aspect or the other more value, > > Gerry Thanks Gerry for this awareness. Yes, it completes the circle to recognize that something/nothing are two inseparable and equal aspects of IT... >or even in the moment when I think of them as one or the other. I am especially like where this line points. Doug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2002 Report Share Posted June 25, 2002 > ummmm...you guys are off topic....I can fix that though. See below. > > > > THE WORK THE WORK THE WORK > > > > > > Ok guys...all fixed..that should do it. teeheehee Is it true? Teeheehee :-P doug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2002 Report Share Posted June 25, 2002 Thanks Laurie. I feel all fixed now! ;-) on 6/25/02 11:26 AM, Laurie at laurie40@... wrote: ummmm...you guys are off topic....I can fix that though. See below. -- RE: something/nothing - THE WORK Gerry Brown wrote: >I love this discussion about form vs nothingness, as if they were two. I >agree mostly with you, Steve, except here... > " all choose simultaniosly, continuously ubiquitously two primal coexisting >dualities, living/dying, and union/seperation. " Is it possible, while we >live, to choose some other reality where there is only form or only silence? >They are one regardless of our preference, although I notice when the world >gets too hectic I yearn for silence and when I get bored with that I yearn >for some action. The fact that I often don't notice the silence inherent in >the kaleidoscopic din of existence doesn't diminish it. I'm confused in the >moment that I assign one aspect or the other more value, or even in the >moment when I think of them as one or the other. > >Gerry THE WORK THE WORK THE WORK i don't see any way that we disagree. we are attracted to what we are attracted to when we are attracted to it. in balanced life this is self regulating,and all incorporating, in unbalanced life we become addicted to one aspect at the expense of our natural flows, the other parts of our self. THE WORK THE WORK THE WORK it is in my view that the natural tendency/function of our conscious personal mind is to focus on details, a narrow focus on parts of the whole. this is a beautiful function. this beautiful function can have a draw back if we do not allow that focus to draw back and take in the whole picture, the way what we have seen in focus, then integrates with the whole. THE WORK THE WORK THE WORK in thoughts about truth and understanding, it appears to me we can use our narrowly focused conscious minds to great effect of understanding, if we also bring out it's capabilities for incorporation of all that it has become aware of in it's function of focus on details. in other words when we are trying to understand something , and we are drawn to be intently focused on it, we will with a healthy open mind look at many aspects of it, the pros and cons, the high and low, the good and bad, the attractive and unattractive the action and the non action, etc., in this diving into the details of a matter, we learn much, we see much. in our minds greatest capabilities we see how it all fits together, works together. so it becomes an incorporation of all that we notice, expanding into understanding beyond an immature focus on choices between parts we are attracted to accepting and parts we do not accept. our mind is capable of both focus on detail, and incorporation of all details into the whole, if we are able to recognize our personal and universal identity. steve Ok guys...all fixed..that should do it. teeheehee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2002 Report Share Posted June 25, 2002 Very cool guys. Reminds me of two questions: Where is the edge of No-Boundary Awareness? In this moment, what seperates you from that which has no boundaries? (Trick question, since that has no boundaries is seperate from nothing.) -- > > I love this discussion about form vs nothingness, as if they were two. I > > agree mostly with you, Steve, except here... > > " all choose simultaniosly, continuously ubiquitously two primal coexisting > > dualities, living/dying, and union/seperation. " Is it possible, while we > > live, to choose some other reality where there is only form or only silence? > > They are one regardless of our preference, although I notice when the world > > gets too hectic I yearn for silence and when I get bored with that I yearn > > for some action. The fact that I often don't notice the silence inherent in > > the kaleidoscopic din of existence doesn't diminish it. I'm confused in the > > moment that I assign one aspect or the other more value, > > > > Gerry > > Thanks Gerry for this awareness. Yes, it completes the circle to > recognize that something/nothing are two inseparable and equal aspects > of IT... > > >or even in the moment when I think of them as one or the other. > > I am especially like where this line points. > > Doug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2002 Report Share Posted June 25, 2002 Sounds like " As It Is, " by ?? or " Impact of Awakening " by Adyashanti or " You are that! " By Gangaji In oneness steve Re: something/nothing Very cool guys. Reminds me of two questions: Where is the edge of No-Boundary Awareness? In this moment, what seperates you from that which has no boundaries? (Trick question, since that has no boundaries is seperate from nothing.) -- > > I love this discussion about form vs nothingness, as if they were two. I > > agree mostly with you, Steve, except here... > > " all choose simultaniosly, continuously ubiquitously two primal coexisting > > dualities, living/dying, and union/seperation. " Is it possible, while we > > live, to choose some other reality where there is only form or only silence? > > They are one regardless of our preference, although I notice when the world > > gets too hectic I yearn for silence and when I get bored with that I yearn > > for some action. The fact that I often don't notice the silence inherent in > > the kaleidoscopic din of existence doesn't diminish it. I'm confused in the > > moment that I assign one aspect or the other more value, > > > > Gerry > > Thanks Gerry for this awareness. Yes, it completes the circle to > recognize that something/nothing are two inseparable and equal aspects > of IT... > > >or even in the moment when I think of them as one or the other. > > I am especially like where this line points. > > Doug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2002 Report Share Posted June 25, 2002 Steve wrote: > Sounds like " As It Is, " by ?? - answer is - Tony Parsons! Good choice, Steve. Best, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2002 Report Share Posted June 25, 2002 thanks I have the book, couldn't find it!! Steve Re: Re: something/nothing Steve wrote: > Sounds like " As It Is, " by ?? - answer is - Tony Parsons! Good choice, Steve. Best, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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