Re: motives for doing The Work

August 9, 2002

HELLO,

THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR POST,S. I've been reading for several days now. You

have been addressing many of my situations. I am just learning the computer

thing and how to E-mail on my own so please overlook errors.

I have recently purrchased ,s

book and look forward to joining with you all. Blessings,and Love to you

all, Sher

August 9, 2002

I need to do the Work on why I get annoyed with and anybody who

quibbles over why our motives have to be so pure in order to do the

Work. Heidi, I am not including you here , I hear and understand your

genuine concern.

Let's get real here. I didn't start doing the Work for the love of

freedom and truth. I came to the Work because I couldn't stand the

pain and upset any longer. Who is going to spend an hour writing out

the Work and processing it unless they are hurting. How many times

have we heard herself say when no. sixing something - it'll

hurt and take you back to the Work.

So Heidi, of course you want to relieve your anxiety and pain, that's

the catalyst you need.

Somewhere underneath that there is a desire for freedom and truth,

otherwise we wouldn't even be on this path. Sometimes we feel the

strong desire for freedom, sometimes we just want to alleviate the

pain. I can't see how the Work could even work for somebody unless

there is an underlying desire to know the truth. We would just stay

in a defensive mode, holding on tightly to our favorite mental

position of the moment.

I understand what says that if you're doing the Work in order

to heal your body for example, then your motives are off. Sure your

motives are off and doing the Work won't budge a thing.

It's the quibbling over whether we're doing it because we're hurting

or doing it because we love freedom, that's what drives me bananas.

" in doing The Work on painful thoughts like, " I

> need to know what to do " or " I need to make a decision " i know

> there's a part of me that, even while i'm inquiring, is holding

onto

> the hope that the inquiry and resulting turn around ( " I don't need

to

> know what to do " ) will help me somehow know what to do. "

That's perfectly OK. That's where you are at. Don't push yourself

past your evolution. Just notice and acknowledge that your fear is

big here. It doesn't mean the Work is not working - it's just raising

the level of your awareness in this area - eventually that fear will

get replaced by more trust, trust in your process, trust in your life.

I know exactly what you are describing here.

love, Margaret

Loving-what-is@y..., " heifisch68 " <heifischbach@y...> wrote:

> On p. 233 in LWI, says: " Are you inquiring with a motive? Are

> you asking the questions to assure yourself that the answer you

> already have is valid, even though it's painful? Do you want to be

> right, or to prove something, more than you want the truth? It's

the

> truth that set me free--for richer, for poorer, in sickness and in

> health. Acceptance, peace, letting go, and less attachment to a

world

> of suffering are all *effects* of doing The Work. They're not

goals.

> Do The Work for the love of freedom, for the love of truth. If

you're

> inquiring with other motives, such as healing the body or solving a

> problem, your answers may be arising from old motives that never

> worked, and you'll miss the wonder and grace of inquiry. "

>

> Dear group,

>

> I didn't like reading this. As much as I want freedom and truth i

> think that my motives for doing The Work are often to stop my

anxiety

> and pain. There is also some wanting of freedom and truth but I

feel

> like i'm one of those that's inquiring with a motive. This makes me

> sad and scared. I so want freedom but at the same time i realize

i'm

> still grasping onto my story. But i can't just make the story go

> away. Oh, this feels like a big quandary! Can The Work still work?

I

> want answers and solutions. That's an old old, deeply ingrained

story

> for me. For example, in doing The Work on painful thoughts like, " I

> need to know what to do " or " I need to make a decision " i know

> there's a part of me that, even while i'm inquiring, is holding

onto

> the hope that the inquiry and resulting turn around ( " I don't need

to

> know what to do " ) will help me somehow know what to do. Oh, I feel

> hopeless. (Or do I?)

>

> Am i just making this more complicated than it is? Am i thinking

too

> much? I'm scared.

>

> -heidi

August 9, 2002

Heidi

I look at it this way.

I want freedom from suffering. I see that my suffering is caused by my

disagreeing with reality, wanting realtity to be different than it is. To

free myself from suffering, embracing reality is what I need to do. So, I

seek the truth to embrace reality to relieve my suffering.

Also, a teacher of mine kept talking about the motive being freedom. When I

said I didn't care about freedom, I just wanted the pain to go away. He

said it was the same thing. It doesn't go away until we are free.

steve

motives for doing The Work

On p. 233 in LWI, says: " Are you inquiring with a motive? Are

you asking the questions to assure yourself that the answer you

already have is valid, even though it's painful? Do you want to be

right, or to prove something, more than you want the truth? It's the

truth that set me free--for richer, for poorer, in sickness and in

health. Acceptance, peace, letting go, and less attachment to a world

of suffering are all *effects* of doing The Work. They're not goals.

Do The Work for the love of freedom, for the love of truth. If you're

inquiring with other motives, such as healing the body or solving a

problem, your answers may be arising from old motives that never

worked, and you'll miss the wonder and grace of inquiry. "

Dear group,

I didn't like reading this. As much as I want freedom and truth i

think that my motives for doing The Work are often to stop my anxiety

and pain. There is also some wanting of freedom and truth but I feel

like i'm one of those that's inquiring with a motive. This makes me

sad and scared. I so want freedom but at the same time i realize i'm

still grasping onto my story. But i can't just make the story go

away. Oh, this feels like a big quandary! Can The Work still work? I

want answers and solutions. That's an old old, deeply ingrained story

for me. For example, in doing The Work on painful thoughts like, " I

need to know what to do " or " I need to make a decision " i know

there's a part of me that, even while i'm inquiring, is holding onto

the hope that the inquiry and resulting turn around ( " I don't need to

know what to do " ) will help me somehow know what to do. Oh, I feel

hopeless. (Or do I?)

Am i just making this more complicated than it is? Am i thinking too

much? I'm scared.

-heidi

August 9, 2002

Am i just making this more complicated than it is? Am i thinking too

much? I'm scared.

-heidi

---Do you want to be right, or do you want to be free?

---Right now I'm watching " Weight, Sex and Adultery " . It's one of the

videos I got this week to give me a sense of all the things that go into

what does. What does she look like? How does she relate to people

outside the confines of her books? What is the essence of " the work " as

it comes from her? Right now she's asking a woman " what does it feel

like to be attached to this lie " ? The lie is that husbands never lie

(history has demonstrated that's not true). The woman says it feels

terrible. If it isn't true and doesn't feel good why keep it? There's no

way in a self facilitation that you can truly answer the four questions

and tweak them to proliferate your story and its lie. You may get past

the first two questions, but that fish is going to get tangled in the

net further down. I'm seeing it happen with and the woman as I

type. I'm just talking about " what is " .

---Look forward to being scared, it could be simply one of the things on

the path to make you free. Now...back to .

-Jim

August 9, 2002

Jim

With your indents, I am confused as to which comments are yours and which

are Heidi's.

How about following one of the conventions others use?

(no big deal, but I would like to follow what you are saying)

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Steve

RE: motives for doing The Work