Guest guest Posted July 21, 2002 Report Share Posted July 21, 2002 Well...the only I can add to that is WOW! quite enlightening and clear explanation. thanks! Laurie -- Thank You All DEAR FELLOW WORKERS!!!! THE ONLY THING WE HAVE TO LOSE IS OUR CHAINS!!!!! Who knew Karl Marx was so spiritual, anyway... So thank you for all your responses, I have a few more questions: In your experience how much does writing down The Work make a difference in doing the work? I prefer not to even though everything I have read recommends it. How much of a difference do you experience in writing it down? Another question I have is how much does taking responsibility for my suffering and for the information I get from the work play a role in the undoing? I notice that I can easily ignore what it is that I learn and nothing changes, but if I choose to take responsibility for what it is I learn there is a shift. I think this is very important and would like to hear what others have to say about this. Also someone wrote that I was identifying with my thoughts and then the next morning I realized that I was not my thinking, that was a huge one, it seems as though in doing the work every once in a while I realize something about the work itself that makes a huge difference this whole process is fascinating. Thank you again so much for all your help, it feels great to have companions in this journey. Love and Friendship Eitan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2002 Report Share Posted July 22, 2002 Hi Eitan, (this'll likely be an echo of many posts--but I'll chime-in) It sounds like you're already doing quite well for yourself! Good Work. Writing down all the stuff takes precious time, but is sooo valuable for me. (now on my 3rd month of using the Work) I love the surprise of a high-emotional-charge i see on some beliefs that spill out spontaneously on paper....if i don't have time to procede through the questions...more Work for later! And if i resist writing, work usually shows up again in another painful way. At first, my curiosity, suspicion, skepticism flamed up about , her story, my fear of gurus, etc. So I read my fill of it, went to see her at a bookstore signing, and gave the Work my best shot. Working with a facilitator (Margaret from this wonderful list) has been a big boost. The Key to feeling a shift/undoing the belief seems to be #3, allowing the feelings of how i live with the thought i'm working on to sink in, visualize the scene and write how i treat myself and others while attaching to that belief. (Is it time to take my hand off the burning hot stove, yet?) The pain can move me. Not to worry, give writing a go as often as you can + give yourself lots of time. Love, Jeanne Reply-To: Loving-what-is Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 02:32:10 -0000 To: Loving-what-is Subject: Thank You All DEAR FELLOW WORKERS!!!! THE ONLY THING WE HAVE TO LOSE IS OUR CHAINS!!!!! Who knew Karl Marx was so spiritual, anyway... So thank you for all your responses, I have a few more questions: In your experience how much does writing down The Work make a difference in doing the work? I prefer not to even though everything I have read recommends it. How much of a difference do you experience in writing it down? Another question I have is how much does taking responsibility for my suffering and for the information I get from the work play a role in the undoing? I notice that I can easily ignore what it is that I learn and nothing changes, but if I choose to take responsibility for what it is I learn there is a shift. I think this is very important and would like to hear what others have to say about this. Also someone wrote that I was identifying with my thoughts and then the next morning I realized that I was not my thinking, that was a huge one, it seems as though in doing the work every once in a while I realize something about the work itself that makes a huge difference this whole process is fascinating. Thank you again so much for all your help, it feels great to have companions in this journey. Love and Friendship Eitan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2002 Report Share Posted July 22, 2002 Eitan wrote: > ...how much does writing down The Work make a difference in doing > the work? I prefer not to even though everything I have read > recommends it. How much of a difference do you experience in > writing it down? How much difference do you experience in yourself between doing the Judge Your Neighbor Worksheet and doing the Work on what you wrote? That can seem like two different people. When you do the JYN Worksheet, you need to give yourself free rein to be as petty, nasty, and judgmental as you can be. Then when you do the work on the statements you wrote down you need to be open and introspective. In other words, the Worksheet is outer-directed and the Work is inner- directed. Write it ALL down, then change focus and look at what you've written. > Another question I have is how much does taking responsibility for > my suffering and for the information I get from the work play a > role in the undoing? That's a question you have to answer for yourself. I can't tell you how much effect taking responsibility for your suffering will have for you. For myself, I find it important to answer the questions three and four. When I realize how I am when I have negative thoughts, and how I would be without them, dropping the negative thoughts becomes automatic. --Warren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 So sorry for the severe diagnosis. It seems so overwhelming at first, and is. But, you learn as you struggle, and find that knowledge is power. And with the right steps, hopefully they improve and learn how to manage and control this disorder, instead of the disorder controlling them. I'm glad the group has been helpful for you. If you ever have any specific questions, please feel free to jump right in. Many in here have been through what you and your daughter are going through and might have some helpful suggestions of what worked for them. Blessings, BJ > > I have been lurking here since shortly after my beautiful 21 year old > daughter was diagnosed with severe OCD and severe depression last > summer. Our story is no different than any of yours. It has been > extremely difficult, to say the least. We still feel as if we are just > beginning this journey. I wanted to let all of you know how much > reading your posts has meant to me. Some things terrified me and some > things soothed me, but it has all been educational and has directed me > to where I need to be at this time. God bless you all. > > You have given me strength to face whatever is in the future. > > I will continue to mostly " lurk " as I don't have time for more. I am > sure you understand that! Thank you again and best of luck to you all. > > Another OCD Mom > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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