Re: Think I'm losing my mind

[Guest guest]

Are you saying that some autistic kids can have HIV?

I'm scared now...

[Guest guest]

but whatever your selenium levels you still need to catch it and it's still

blood/fluid communicated. Do you mean there are other viruses that behave like

HIV? All mothers and infants born at Tom's hospital are routinely screened (I

think that's also true at most London hospitals?). It's still pretty hard to get

HIV isn't it? You don't just pick it up?

>

> Natasa,

>

> You and I discussed the connection between AIDS and autism some time ago.

>

> AIDS is abundant in areas of low selenium...Se necessary for

> thyroid...Senegal, for example, apparently does not have AIDS and it has

> high selenium.

>

> Gotta go to bed.

>

> TMI at the moment. My mind is boggled

>

> I'll go over this again tomorrow. Most interesting. Thanks for putting

> this together

>

> Don't lose your mind, get angry. And start bugging your M.P.

>

>

> Neno/Natasa schrieb:

> >

> >

> > I posted things in the past on similarities to autism in HIV positive

> > kids.

> >

> >

> > Now have been looking more closely and cannot believe my eyes.

> > Somebody pinch me please.

> >

> >

> > So here's my rough summary as of today (it gets more interesting as

> > you read on, promise

> >

> >

> > _Neurodevelopmenal findings in HIV kids:

> > _

> > Impairments in language, especially expressive language. Behavioural

> > symptoms: irritability, lack of social skills, repetitive actions

> > (rocking etc etc all familiar sounding). Note: memory and visual

> > information processing (visual intelligence) are NOT impaired.

> >

> > Sometimes children develop normally and regress later, usually between

> > 1.5-2 years of age. This is often linked to increased HIV viral load

> > and/or reactivation.

> >

> > Now see this: language and behaviour often recover when children are

> > given combination antiretroviral treatments, at least to some degree.

> > Sometimes recovery is complete.

> >

> > No mention of the A word. This is called peadiatric neuroaids or 5

> > other vague names.

> >

> >

> > ++++++

> >

> > Latent HIV virus can be reactivated by vaccinations.

> >

> > Live virus vaccines, especially MMR, often come with a warning for HIV

> > infected individuals – inability to mount apropriate immune responses

> > results in vaccine virus persistance. For example polio vacine strain

> > has been found alive and well in guts of vaccinated individuals. No

> > antibody production to Dtp or measles viruse etc…

> >

> > ++++++

> >

> > _Gastrointestinal findings in HIV positive children:

> > _

> > Leaky gut and malabsorbtion of nutrients

> >

> > Lack of digestive enzymes (impaired pancreatic function)

> >

> > Abnormal reactions to gluten and casein !!

> >

> > Lactose intolerance

> >

> > Sugar intolerance

> >

> > Inability to digest complex carbohydrates

> >

> > Inability to absorb fats and proteins

> >

> > Gastrointestinal pathogen overload: secondary intestinal viruses,

> > bacterial overload.

> >

> > Abnormal immune reactivity to candida albicans.

> >

> >

> > +++++

> >

> > Impaired fine and gross motor skills in HIV positive children

> >

> > Impaired sensory – auditory and visual processing

> >

> >

> > Subclinical hypothyroidism (in adults, no data on children)

> >

> >

> > ++++++

> >

> >

> > HIV causes calcium overload and mitochondrial dysfunction

> >

> > HIV causes oxidative stress and glutathione depletion

> >

> > HIV is inhibited by glutathione and agents that raise glutathione

> >

> > HIV causes microglial activation and inflammation

> >

> > HIV alone or combined with bacterial agents causes breakdown of the

> > blood brain barrier

> >

> >

> > +++++

> >

> > And this: chelation of metals inhibits HIV virus integration into

> > human DNA.

> >

> > Retroviruses (HIV is a retrovirus) in general are _desintegrated_ by

> > chelation agents.

> >

> > Retroviruses use metal complexes to integrate into human DNA

> >

> >

> >

> > +++++

> >

> > Tetracycline antibiotics (minocycline is one) inhibit HIV through same

> > mechanism as chelation agents

> >

> > +++++

> >

> >

> >

> > ....

> >

> > Can I say anything out loud?

> >

> >

> > Gonna go to sleep now

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[Guest guest]

Brilliant Post Natasa

My kid has made amazing progress since we addressed antivirals

Wouldn't have believed what was going on in his body if we hadn't seen the viral

load on tests for ourselves. He showed little outward sign of infection.

Eileen x

>

>

> I posted things in the past on similarities to autism in HIV positive kids.

>

>

> Now have been looking more closely and cannot believe my eyes. Somebody

> pinch me please.

>

>

> So here¹s my rough summary as of today (it gets more interesting as you read

> on, promise

>

>

> Neurodevelopmenal findings in HIV kids:

>

> Impairments in language, especially expressive language. Behavioural

> symptoms: irritability, lack of social skills, repetitive actions (rocking

> etc etc all familiar sounding). Note: memory and visual information

> processing (visual intelligence) are NOT impaired.

>

> Sometimes children develop normally and regress later, usually between 1.5-2

> years of age. This is often linked to increased HIV viral load and/or

> reactivation.

>

> Now see this: language and behaviour often recover when children are given

> combination antiretroviral treatments, at least to some degree. Sometimes

> recovery is complete.

>

> No mention of the A word. This is called peadiatric neuroaids or 5 other

> vague names.

>

>

> ++++++

>

> Latent HIV virus can be reactivated by vaccinations.

>

> Live virus vaccines, especially MMR, often come with a warning for HIV

> infected individuals ­ inability to mount apropriate immune responses

> results in vaccine virus persistance. For example polio vacine strain has

> been found alive and well in guts of vaccinated individuals. No antibody

> production to Dtp or measles viruse etcŠ

>

> ++++++

>

> Gastrointestinal findings in HIV positive children:

>

> Leaky gut and malabsorbtion of nutrients

>

> Lack of digestive enzymes (impaired pancreatic function)

>

> Abnormal reactions to gluten and casein !!

>

> Lactose intolerance

>

> Sugar intolerance

>

> Inability to digest complex carbohydrates

>

> Inability to absorb fats and proteins

>

> Gastrointestinal pathogen overload: secondary intestinal viruses, bacterial

> overload.

>

> Abnormal immune reactivity to candida albicans.

>

>

> +++++

>

> Impaired fine and gross motor skills in HIV positive children

>

> Impaired sensory ­ auditory and visual processing

>

>

> Subclinical hypothyroidism (in adults, no data on children)

>

>

> ++++++

>

>

> HIV causes calcium overload and mitochondrial dysfunction

>

> HIV causes oxidative stress and glutathione depletion

>

> HIV is inhibited by glutathione and agents that raise glutathione

>

> HIV causes microglial activation and inflammation

>

> HIV alone or combined with bacterial agents causes breakdown of the blood

> brain barrier

>

>

> +++++

>

> And this: chelation of metals inhibits HIV virus integration into human DNA.

>

> Retroviruses (HIV is a retrovirus) in general are desintegrated by chelation

> agents.

>

> Retroviruses use metal complexes to integrate into human DNA

>

>

>

> +++++

>

> Tetracycline antibiotics (minocycline is one) inhibit HIV through same

> mechanism as chelation agents

>

> +++++

>

>

>

> ....

>

> Can I say anything out loud?

>

>

> Gonna go to sleep now

>

[Guest guest]

Natasa,

There definately seems to be some link between HIV and AIDS and thyroid

and more specifically freeT3.

*Abnormal TSH levels were noted in 12.4% of older men with or at risk

for HIV infection, but nearly all reflected subclinical hyperthyroidism

or subclinical hypothyroidism.*

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18554308?ordinalpos=7 & itool=EntrezSystem2.PEn\

trez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

*Abnormal thyroid function test results are common among human

immunodeficiency virus (HIV)-infected patients*

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17638201?ordinalpos=16 & itool=EntrezSystem2.PE\

ntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

*This paper presents the hypothesis that if AIDS vaccines are

administered together with thyroid hormones, the cellular and humoral

immune responses will increase and the patients that receive these

together will present much better immunogenicity against AIDS.*

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17570565?ordinalpos=19 & itool=EntrezSystem2.PE\

ntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

*In AIDS, average short-term weight was stable, caloric intake was

normal, and T3 levels were decreased by 19%. In AIDS-SI, both short-term

weight loss and anorexia were significant, and this group showed a 45%

decrease in T3 levels.*

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8412739?ordinalpos=5 & itool=EntrezSystem2.PEnt\

rez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

Neno/Natasa schrieb:

>

>

> I posted things in the past on similarities to autism in HIV positive

> kids.

>

>

> Now have been looking more closely and cannot believe my eyes.

> Somebody pinch me please.

>

>

> So here’s my rough summary as of today (it gets more interesting as

> you read on, promise

>

>

> _Neurodevelopmenal findings in HIV kids:

> _

> Impairments in language, especially expressive language. Behavioural

> symptoms: irritability, lack of social skills, repetitive actions

> (rocking etc etc all familiar sounding). Note: memory and visual

> information processing (visual intelligence) are NOT impaired.

>

> Sometimes children develop normally and regress later, usually between

> 1.5-2 years of age. This is often linked to increased HIV viral load

> and/or reactivation.

>

> Now see this: language and behaviour often recover when children are

> given combination antiretroviral treatments, at least to some degree.

> Sometimes recovery is complete.

>

> No mention of the A word. This is called peadiatric neuroaids or 5

> other vague names.

>

>

> ++++++

>

> Latent HIV virus can be reactivated by vaccinations.

>

> Live virus vaccines, especially MMR, often come with a warning for HIV

> infected individuals – inability to mount apropriate immune responses

> results in vaccine virus persistance. For example polio vacine strain

> has been found alive and well in guts of vaccinated individuals. No

> antibody production to Dtp or measles viruse etc…

>

> ++++++

>

> _Gastrointestinal findings in HIV positive children:

> _

> Leaky gut and malabsorbtion of nutrients

>

> Lack of digestive enzymes (impaired pancreatic function)

>

> Abnormal reactions to gluten and casein !!

>

> Lactose intolerance

>

> Sugar intolerance

>

> Inability to digest complex carbohydrates

>

> Inability to absorb fats and proteins

>

> Gastrointestinal pathogen overload: secondary intestinal viruses,

> bacterial overload.

>

> Abnormal immune reactivity to candida albicans.

>

>

> +++++

>

> Impaired fine and gross motor skills in HIV positive children

>

> Impaired sensory – auditory and visual processing

>

>

> Subclinical hypothyroidism (in adults, no data on children)

>

>

> ++++++

>

>

> HIV causes calcium overload and mitochondrial dysfunction

>

> HIV causes oxidative stress and glutathione depletion

>

> HIV is inhibited by glutathione and agents that raise glutathione

>

> HIV causes microglial activation and inflammation

>

> HIV alone or combined with bacterial agents causes breakdown of the

> blood brain barrier

>

>

> +++++

>

> And this: chelation of metals inhibits HIV virus integration into

> human DNA.

>

> Retroviruses (HIV is a retrovirus) in general are _desintegrated_ by

> chelation agents.

>

> Retroviruses use metal complexes to integrate into human DNA

>

>

>

> +++++

>

> Tetracycline antibiotics (minocycline is one) inhibit HIV through same

> mechanism as chelation agents

>

> +++++

>

>

>

> ....

>

> Can I say anything out loud?

>

>

> Gonna go to sleep now

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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> No virus found in this incoming message.

> Checked by AVG.

> Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2003 - Release Date: 15/03/2009

14:07

>

[Guest guest]

julie, you won’t believe this but it seems that:

retrovirus is capable of binding/blocking the TR3 nuclear receptor. Is one of the ones that T3 binds to, isn't it. - wondering if the receptor is already ‘blocked’ by the viral particle, wouldn’t it be send feedback for more t3 NOT to be produced/converted (usual mechanism in biology)

secondly, retrovirus (HIV) has been linked to autoimmune thryoid diseases.

fabulous link on all things thyroid, talks about tr3 receptor function further down:

http://www.anaesthetist.com/icu/organs/endocr/thyroid/Findex.htm#thyfx.htm

Natasa,

There definately seems to be some link between HIV and AIDS and thyroid

and more specifically freeT3.

*Abnormal TSH levels were noted in 12.4% of older men with or at risk

for HIV infection, but nearly all reflected subclinical hyperthyroidism

or subclinical hypothyroidism.*

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18554308?ordinalpos=7 & itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

*Abnormal thyroid function test results are common among human

immunodeficiency virus (HIV)-infected patients*

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17638201?ordinalpos=16 & itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

*This paper presents the hypothesis that if AIDS vaccines are

administered together with thyroid hormones, the cellular and humoral

immune responses will increase and the patients that receive these

together will present much better immunogenicity against AIDS.*

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17570565?ordinalpos=19 & itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

*In AIDS, average short-term weight was stable, caloric intake was

normal, and T3 levels were decreased by 19%. In AIDS-SI, both short-term

weight loss and anorexia were significant, and this group showed a 45%

decrease in T3 levels.*

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8412739?ordinalpos=5 & itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

Neno/Natasa schrieb:

>

>

> I posted things in the past on similarities to autism in HIV positive

> kids.

>

>

> Now have been looking more closely and cannot believe my eyes.

> Somebody pinch me please.

>

>

> So here’s my rough summary as of today (it gets more interesting as

> you read on, promise

>

>

> _Neurodevelopmenal findings in HIV kids:

> _

> Impairments in language, especially expressive language. Behavioural

> symptoms: irritability, lack of social skills, repetitive actions

> (rocking etc etc all familiar sounding). Note: memory and visual

> information processing (visual intelligence) are NOT impaired.

>

> Sometimes children develop normally and regress later, usually between

> 1.5-2 years of age. This is often linked to increased HIV viral load

> and/or reactivation.

>

> Now see this: language and behaviour often recover when children are

> given combination antiretroviral treatments, at least to some degree.

> Sometimes recovery is complete.

>

> No mention of the A word. This is called peadiatric neuroaids or 5

> other vague names.

>

>

> ++++++

>

> Latent HIV virus can be reactivated by vaccinations.

>

> Live virus vaccines, especially MMR, often come with a warning for HIV

> infected individuals – inability to mount apropriate immune responses

> results in vaccine virus persistance. For example polio vacine strain

> has been found alive and well in guts of vaccinated individuals. No

> antibody production to Dtp or measles viruse etc…

>

> ++++++

>

> _Gastrointestinal findings in HIV positive children:

> _

> Leaky gut and malabsorbtion of nutrients

>

> Lack of digestive enzymes (impaired pancreatic function)

>

> Abnormal reactions to gluten and casein !!

>

> Lactose intolerance

>

> Sugar intolerance

>

> Inability to digest complex carbohydrates

>

> Inability to absorb fats and proteins

>

> Gastrointestinal pathogen overload: secondary intestinal viruses,

> bacterial overload.

>

> Abnormal immune reactivity to candida albicans.

>

>

> +++++

>

> Impaired fine and gross motor skills in HIV positive children

>

> Impaired sensory – auditory and visual processing

>

>

> Subclinical hypothyroidism (in adults, no data on children)

>

>

> ++++++

>

>

> HIV causes calcium overload and mitochondrial dysfunction

>

> HIV causes oxidative stress and glutathione depletion

>

> HIV is inhibited by glutathione and agents that raise glutathione

>

> HIV causes microglial activation and inflammation

>

> HIV alone or combined with bacterial agents causes breakdown of the

> blood brain barrier

>

>

> +++++

>

> And this: chelation of metals inhibits HIV virus integration into

> human DNA.

>

> Retroviruses (HIV is a retrovirus) in general are _desintegrated_ by

> chelation agents.

>

> Retroviruses use metal complexes to integrate into human DNA

>

>

>

> +++++

>

> Tetracycline antibiotics (minocycline is one) inhibit HIV through same

> mechanism as chelation agents

>

> +++++

>

>

>

> ....

>

> Can I say anything out loud?

>

>

> Gonna go to sleep now

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

>

> No virus found in this incoming message.

> Checked by AVG.

> Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2003 - Release Date: 15/03/2009 14:07

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[Guest guest]

*A normal diet contains about 400-500 µg of iodine, of which the gland

takes up about 80(+)µg. Once dietary intake of iodide is consistently

under 100 µg per day for a period of about three months, hypothyroidism

will progressively become apparent. There are vast tracts of land across

the planet where iodine deficiency is endemic, so in developing

countries hypothyroidism due to iodine deficiency is still a major cause

of mental retardation, sometimes worsened by selenium deficiency and

goitrogens in foodstuffs such as cassava. Iodine deficiency is said to

be a public health problem for about 30% of the world population, and is

the /most common preventable cause of mental retardation /. There are,

for example, villages in Zaire where /everyone / is hypothyroid! In

developed countries, we have iodine supplementation of salt.*

They are completely wrong here. Iodine intake in amny developed

countries half of this, the UK on average 200 mcg. NOT all developed

countries have iodized salt. The UK is notoriously lacking but that

omission is NEVER discussed. I wonder why?

Neno/Natasa schrieb:

>

> julie, you won’t believe this but it seems that:

>

> retrovirus is capable of binding/blocking the TR3 nuclear

> receptor. Is one of the ones that T3 binds to, isn't it. -

> wondering if the receptor is already ‘blocked’ by the viral

> particle, wouldn’t it be send feedback for more t3 NOT to be

> produced/converted (usual mechanism in biology)

>

> secondly, retrovirus (HIV) has been linked to autoimmune thryoid

> diseases.

>

>

> fabulous link on all things thyroid, talks about tr3 receptor

> function further down:

>

> http://www.anaesthetist.com/icu/organs/endocr/thyroid/Findex.htm#thyfx.htm

>

<http://www.anaesthetist.com/icu/organs/endocr/thyroid/Findex.htm#thyfx.htm>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Natasa,

>

> There definately seems to be some link between HIV and AIDS and

> thyroid

> and more specifically freeT3.

>

>

> *Abnormal TSH levels were noted in 12.4% of older men with or at risk

> for HIV infection, but nearly all reflected subclinical

> hyperthyroidism

> or subclinical hypothyroidism.*

>

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18554308?ordinalpos=7 & itool=EntrezSystem2.PEn\

trez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

>

<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18554308?ordinalpos=7 & itool=EntrezSystem2.PE\

ntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum>

>

> *Abnormal thyroid function test results are common among human

> immunodeficiency virus (HIV)-infected patients*

>

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17638201?ordinalpos=16 & itool=EntrezSystem2.PE\

ntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

>

<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17638201?ordinalpos=16 & itool=EntrezSystem2.P\

Entrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum>

>

> *This paper presents the hypothesis that if AIDS vaccines are

> administered together with thyroid hormones, the cellular and humoral

> immune responses will increase and the patients that receive these

> together will present much better immunogenicity against AIDS.*

>

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17570565?ordinalpos=19 & itool=EntrezSystem2.PE\

ntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

>

<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17570565?ordinalpos=19 & itool=EntrezSystem2.P\

Entrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum>

>

> *In AIDS, average short-term weight was stable, caloric intake was

> normal, and T3 levels were decreased by 19%. In AIDS-SI, both

> short-term

> weight loss and anorexia were significant, and this group showed a

> 45%

> decrease in T3 levels.*

>

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8412739?ordinalpos=5 & itool=EntrezSystem2.PEnt\

rez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

>

<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8412739?ordinalpos=5 & itool=EntrezSystem2.PEn\

trez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum>

>

>

>

> Neno/Natasa schrieb:

> >

> >

> > I posted things in the past on similarities to autism in HIV

> positive

> > kids.

> >

> >

> > Now have been looking more closely and cannot believe my eyes.

> > Somebody pinch me please.

> >

> >

> > So here’s my rough summary as of today (it gets more interesting as

> > you read on, promise

> >

> >

> > _Neurodevelopmenal findings in HIV kids:

> > _

> > Impairments in language, especially expressive language. Behavioural

> > symptoms: irritability, lack of social skills, repetitive actions

> > (rocking etc etc all familiar sounding). Note: memory and visual

> > information processing (visual intelligence) are NOT impaired.

> >

> > Sometimes children develop normally and regress later, usually

> between

> > 1.5-2 years of age. This is often linked to increased HIV viral load

> > and/or reactivation.

> >

> > Now see this: language and behaviour often recover when children are

> > given combination antiretroviral treatments, at least to some

> degree.

> > Sometimes recovery is complete.

> >

> > No mention of the A word. This is called peadiatric neuroaids or 5

> > other vague names.

> >

> >

> > ++++++

> >

> > Latent HIV virus can be reactivated by vaccinations.

> >

> > Live virus vaccines, especially MMR, often come with a warning

> for HIV

> > infected individuals – inability to mount apropriate immune

> responses

> > results in vaccine virus persistance. For example polio vacine

> strain

> > has been found alive and well in guts of vaccinated individuals. No

> > antibody production to Dtp or measles viruse etc…

> >

> > ++++++

> >

> > _Gastrointestinal findings in HIV positive children:

> > _

> > Leaky gut and malabsorbtion of nutrients

> >

> > Lack of digestive enzymes (impaired pancreatic function)

> >

> > Abnormal reactions to gluten and casein !!

> >

> > Lactose intolerance

> >

> > Sugar intolerance

> >

> > Inability to digest complex carbohydrates

> >

> > Inability to absorb fats and proteins

> >

> > Gastrointestinal pathogen overload: secondary intestinal viruses,

> > bacterial overload.

> >

> > Abnormal immune reactivity to candida albicans.

> >

> >

> > +++++

> >

> > Impaired fine and gross motor skills in HIV positive children

> >

> > Impaired sensory – auditory and visual processing

> >

> >

> > Subclinical hypothyroidism (in adults, no data on children)

> >

> >

> > ++++++

> >

> >

> > HIV causes calcium overload and mitochondrial dysfunction

> >

> > HIV causes oxidative stress and glutathione depletion

> >

> > HIV is inhibited by glutathione and agents that raise glutathione

> >

> > HIV causes microglial activation and inflammation

> >

> > HIV alone or combined with bacterial agents causes breakdown of the

> > blood brain barrier

> >

> >

> > +++++

> >

> > And this: chelation of metals inhibits HIV virus integration into

> > human DNA.

> >

> > Retroviruses (HIV is a retrovirus) in general are _desintegrated_ by

> > chelation agents.

> >

> > Retroviruses use metal complexes to integrate into human DNA

> >

> >

> >

> > +++++

> >

> > Tetracycline antibiotics (minocycline is one) inhibit HIV through

> same

> > mechanism as chelation agents

> >

> > +++++

> >

> >

> >

> > ....

> >

> > Can I say anything out loud?

> >

> >

> > Gonna go to sleep now

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> >

> > No virus found in this incoming message.

> > Checked by AVG.

> > Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2003 - Release Date:

> 15/03/2009 14:07

> >

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

> DISCLAIMER

> No information contained in this post is to be construed as

> medical advice. If you need medical advice, please seek it from a

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>

[Guest guest]

And something else, when the Chernobyl clouds invaded the UK in teh UK,

I'll bet a LOT of people were sitting ducks due to lack of iodine.

Radiation causes DNA mutation.

Neno/Natasa schrieb:

>

> julie, you won’t believe this but it seems that:

>

> retrovirus is capable of binding/blocking the TR3 nuclear

> receptor. Is one of the ones that T3 binds to, isn't it. -

> wondering if the receptor is already ‘blocked’ by the viral

> particle, wouldn’t it be send feedback for more t3 NOT to be

> produced/converted (usual mechanism in biology)

>

> secondly, retrovirus (HIV) has been linked to autoimmune thryoid

> diseases.

>

>

> fabulous link on all things thyroid, talks about tr3 receptor

> function further down:

>

> http://www.anaesthetist.com/icu/organs/endocr/thyroid/Findex.htm#thyfx.htm

>

<http://www.anaesthetist.com/icu/organs/endocr/thyroid/Findex.htm#thyfx.htm>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Natasa,

>

> There definately seems to be some link between HIV and AIDS and

> thyroid

> and more specifically freeT3.

>

>

> *Abnormal TSH levels were noted in 12.4% of older men with or at risk

> for HIV infection, but nearly all reflected subclinical

> hyperthyroidism

> or subclinical hypothyroidism.*

>

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18554308?ordinalpos=7 & itool=EntrezSystem2.PEn\

trez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

>

<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18554308?ordinalpos=7 & itool=EntrezSystem2.PE\

ntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum>

>

> *Abnormal thyroid function test results are common among human

> immunodeficiency virus (HIV)-infected patients*

>

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17638201?ordinalpos=16 & itool=EntrezSystem2.PE\

ntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

>

<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17638201?ordinalpos=16 & itool=EntrezSystem2.P\

Entrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum>

>

> *This paper presents the hypothesis that if AIDS vaccines are

> administered together with thyroid hormones, the cellular and humoral

> immune responses will increase and the patients that receive these

> together will present much better immunogenicity against AIDS.*

>

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17570565?ordinalpos=19 & itool=EntrezSystem2.PE\

ntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

>

<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17570565?ordinalpos=19 & itool=EntrezSystem2.P\

Entrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum>

>

> *In AIDS, average short-term weight was stable, caloric intake was

> normal, and T3 levels were decreased by 19%. In AIDS-SI, both

> short-term

> weight loss and anorexia were significant, and this group showed a

> 45%

> decrease in T3 levels.*

>

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8412739?ordinalpos=5 & itool=EntrezSystem2.PEnt\

rez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

>

<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8412739?ordinalpos=5 & itool=EntrezSystem2.PEn\

trez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum>

>

>

>

> Neno/Natasa schrieb:

> >

> >

> > I posted things in the past on similarities to autism in HIV

> positive

> > kids.

> >

> >

> > Now have been looking more closely and cannot believe my eyes.

> > Somebody pinch me please.

> >

> >

> > So here’s my rough summary as of today (it gets more interesting as

> > you read on, promise

> >

> >

> > _Neurodevelopmenal findings in HIV kids:

> > _

> > Impairments in language, especially expressive language. Behavioural

> > symptoms: irritability, lack of social skills, repetitive actions

> > (rocking etc etc all familiar sounding). Note: memory and visual

> > information processing (visual intelligence) are NOT impaired.

> >

> > Sometimes children develop normally and regress later, usually

> between

> > 1.5-2 years of age. This is often linked to increased HIV viral load

> > and/or reactivation.

> >

> > Now see this: language and behaviour often recover when children are

> > given combination antiretroviral treatments, at least to some

> degree.

> > Sometimes recovery is complete.

> >

> > No mention of the A word. This is called peadiatric neuroaids or 5

> > other vague names.

> >

> >

> > ++++++

> >

> > Latent HIV virus can be reactivated by vaccinations.

> >

> > Live virus vaccines, especially MMR, often come with a warning

> for HIV

> > infected individuals – inability to mount apropriate immune

> responses

> > results in vaccine virus persistance. For example polio vacine

> strain

> > has been found alive and well in guts of vaccinated individuals. No

> > antibody production to Dtp or measles viruse etc…

> >

> > ++++++

> >

> > _Gastrointestinal findings in HIV positive children:

> > _

> > Leaky gut and malabsorbtion of nutrients

> >

> > Lack of digestive enzymes (impaired pancreatic function)

> >

> > Abnormal reactions to gluten and casein !!

> >

> > Lactose intolerance

> >

> > Sugar intolerance

> >

> > Inability to digest complex carbohydrates

> >

> > Inability to absorb fats and proteins

> >

> > Gastrointestinal pathogen overload: secondary intestinal viruses,

> > bacterial overload.

> >

> > Abnormal immune reactivity to candida albicans.

> >

> >

> > +++++

> >

> > Impaired fine and gross motor skills in HIV positive children

> >

> > Impaired sensory – auditory and visual processing

> >

> >

> > Subclinical hypothyroidism (in adults, no data on children)

> >

> >

> > ++++++

> >

> >

> > HIV causes calcium overload and mitochondrial dysfunction

> >

> > HIV causes oxidative stress and glutathione depletion

> >

> > HIV is inhibited by glutathione and agents that raise glutathione

> >

> > HIV causes microglial activation and inflammation

> >

> > HIV alone or combined with bacterial agents causes breakdown of the

> > blood brain barrier

> >

> >

> > +++++

> >

> > And this: chelation of metals inhibits HIV virus integration into

> > human DNA.

> >

> > Retroviruses (HIV is a retrovirus) in general are _desintegrated_ by

> > chelation agents.

> >

> > Retroviruses use metal complexes to integrate into human DNA

> >

> >

> >

> > +++++

> >

> > Tetracycline antibiotics (minocycline is one) inhibit HIV through

> same

> > mechanism as chelation agents

> >

> > +++++

> >

> >

> >

> > ....

> >

> > Can I say anything out loud?

> >

> >

> > Gonna go to sleep now

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> >

> > No virus found in this incoming message.

> > Checked by AVG.

> > Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2003 - Release Date:

> 15/03/2009 14:07

> >

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

> DISCLAIMER

> No information contained in this post is to be construed as

> medical advice. If you need medical advice, please seek it from a

> suitably qualified practitioner.

>

[Guest guest]

*Today, the best overall test of thyroid function is to simply determine

TSH levels. It is generally a waste of resources to request " full

thyroid function tests " including TSH, free T4 and free T3 levels.*

This is absolutely wrong also. I have studies showing absolutely NORMAL

TSH but the freeT3, the IMPORTANT hormone is abnormal.

Neno/Natasa schrieb:

>

> julie, you won’t believe this but it seems that:

>

> retrovirus is capable of binding/blocking the TR3 nuclear

> receptor. Is one of the ones that T3 binds to, isn't it. -

> wondering if the receptor is already ‘blocked’ by the viral

> particle, wouldn’t it be send feedback for more t3 NOT to be

> produced/converted (usual mechanism in biology)

>

> secondly, retrovirus (HIV) has been linked to autoimmune thryoid

> diseases.

>

>

> fabulous link on all things thyroid, talks about tr3 receptor

> function further down:

>

> http://www.anaesthetist.com/icu/organs/endocr/thyroid/Findex.htm#thyfx.htm

>

<http://www.anaesthetist.com/icu/organs/endocr/thyroid/Findex.htm#thyfx.htm>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Natasa,

>

> There definately seems to be some link between HIV and AIDS and

> thyroid

> and more specifically freeT3.

>

>

> *Abnormal TSH levels were noted in 12.4% of older men with or at risk

> for HIV infection, but nearly all reflected subclinical

> hyperthyroidism

> or subclinical hypothyroidism.*

>

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18554308?ordinalpos=7 & itool=EntrezSystem2.PEn\

trez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

>

<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18554308?ordinalpos=7 & itool=EntrezSystem2.PE\

ntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum>

>

> *Abnormal thyroid function test results are common among human

> immunodeficiency virus (HIV)-infected patients*

>

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17638201?ordinalpos=16 & itool=EntrezSystem2.PE\

ntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

>

<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17638201?ordinalpos=16 & itool=EntrezSystem2.P\

Entrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum>

>

> *This paper presents the hypothesis that if AIDS vaccines are

> administered together with thyroid hormones, the cellular and humoral

> immune responses will increase and the patients that receive these

> together will present much better immunogenicity against AIDS.*

>

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17570565?ordinalpos=19 & itool=EntrezSystem2.PE\

ntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

>

<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17570565?ordinalpos=19 & itool=EntrezSystem2.P\

Entrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum>

>

> *In AIDS, average short-term weight was stable, caloric intake was

> normal, and T3 levels were decreased by 19%. In AIDS-SI, both

> short-term

> weight loss and anorexia were significant, and this group showed a

> 45%

> decrease in T3 levels.*

>

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8412739?ordinalpos=5 & itool=EntrezSystem2.PEnt\

rez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

>

<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8412739?ordinalpos=5 & itool=EntrezSystem2.PEn\

trez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum>

>

>

>

> Neno/Natasa schrieb:

> >

> >

> > I posted things in the past on similarities to autism in HIV

> positive

> > kids.

> >

> >

> > Now have been looking more closely and cannot believe my eyes.

> > Somebody pinch me please.

> >

> >

> > So here’s my rough summary as of today (it gets more interesting as

> > you read on, promise

> >

> >

> > _Neurodevelopmenal findings in HIV kids:

> > _

> > Impairments in language, especially expressive language. Behavioural

> > symptoms: irritability, lack of social skills, repetitive actions

> > (rocking etc etc all familiar sounding). Note: memory and visual

> > information processing (visual intelligence) are NOT impaired.

> >

> > Sometimes children develop normally and regress later, usually

> between

> > 1.5-2 years of age. This is often linked to increased HIV viral load

> > and/or reactivation.

> >

> > Now see this: language and behaviour often recover when children are

> > given combination antiretroviral treatments, at least to some

> degree.

> > Sometimes recovery is complete.

> >

> > No mention of the A word. This is called peadiatric neuroaids or 5

> > other vague names.

> >

> >

> > ++++++

> >

> > Latent HIV virus can be reactivated by vaccinations.

> >

> > Live virus vaccines, especially MMR, often come with a warning

> for HIV

> > infected individuals – inability to mount apropriate immune

> responses

> > results in vaccine virus persistance. For example polio vacine

> strain

> > has been found alive and well in guts of vaccinated individuals. No

> > antibody production to Dtp or measles viruse etc…

> >

> > ++++++

> >

> > _Gastrointestinal findings in HIV positive children:

> > _

> > Leaky gut and malabsorbtion of nutrients

> >

> > Lack of digestive enzymes (impaired pancreatic function)

> >

> > Abnormal reactions to gluten and casein !!

> >

> > Lactose intolerance

> >

> > Sugar intolerance

> >

> > Inability to digest complex carbohydrates

> >

> > Inability to absorb fats and proteins

> >

> > Gastrointestinal pathogen overload: secondary intestinal viruses,

> > bacterial overload.

> >

> > Abnormal immune reactivity to candida albicans.

> >

> >

> > +++++

> >

> > Impaired fine and gross motor skills in HIV positive children

> >

> > Impaired sensory – auditory and visual processing

> >

> >

> > Subclinical hypothyroidism (in adults, no data on children)

> >

> >

> > ++++++

> >

> >

> > HIV causes calcium overload and mitochondrial dysfunction

> >

> > HIV causes oxidative stress and glutathione depletion

> >

> > HIV is inhibited by glutathione and agents that raise glutathione

> >

> > HIV causes microglial activation and inflammation

> >

> > HIV alone or combined with bacterial agents causes breakdown of the

> > blood brain barrier

> >

> >

> > +++++

> >

> > And this: chelation of metals inhibits HIV virus integration into

> > human DNA.

> >

> > Retroviruses (HIV is a retrovirus) in general are _desintegrated_ by

> > chelation agents.

> >

> > Retroviruses use metal complexes to integrate into human DNA

> >

> >

> >

> > +++++

> >

> > Tetracycline antibiotics (minocycline is one) inhibit HIV through

> same

> > mechanism as chelation agents

> >

> > +++++

> >

> >

> >

> > ....

> >

> > Can I say anything out loud?

> >

> >

> > Gonna go to sleep now

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> >

> > No virus found in this incoming message.

> > Checked by AVG.

> > Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2003 - Release Date:

> 15/03/2009 14:07

> >

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

> DISCLAIMER

> No information contained in this post is to be construed as

> medical advice. If you need medical advice, please seek it from a

> suitably qualified practitioner.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi sorry to butt in. But I read similar things with MBP depleat and MS symptoms

of autism. Some HIV coctails are used similar to as MS and MBP meds....all

immune problems (neuro) as the antibiotic (plus another one forgotton name

begins 'R'). Look on MBP yahoo site that is where I read lots of info on it.

Children may have immune systems as poor and mimic AIDS but they can be treated

and make progress.

>

> Natasa,

>

> You and I discussed the connection between AIDS and autism some time ago.

>

> AIDS is abundant in areas of low selenium...Se necessary for

> thyroid...Senegal, for example, apparently does not have AIDS and it has

> high selenium.

>

> Gotta go to bed.

>

> TMI at the moment. My mind is boggled

>

> I'll go over this again tomorrow. Most interesting. Thanks for putting

> this together

>

> Don't lose your mind, get angry. And start bugging your M.P.

>

>

> Neno/Natasa schrieb:

> >

> >

> > I posted things in the past on similarities to autism in HIV positive

> > kids.

> >

> >

> > Now have been looking more closely and cannot believe my eyes.

> > Somebody pinch me please.

> >

> >

> > So here's my rough summary as of today (it gets more interesting as

> > you read on, promise

> >

> >

> > _Neurodevelopmenal findings in HIV kids:

> > _

> > Impairments in language, especially expressive language. Behavioural

> > symptoms: irritability, lack of social skills, repetitive actions

> > (rocking etc etc all familiar sounding). Note: memory and visual

> > information processing (visual intelligence) are NOT impaired.

> >

> > Sometimes children develop normally and regress later, usually between

> > 1.5-2 years of age. This is often linked to increased HIV viral load

> > and/or reactivation.

> >

> > Now see this: language and behaviour often recover when children are

> > given combination antiretroviral treatments, at least to some degree.

> > Sometimes recovery is complete.

> >

> > No mention of the A word. This is called peadiatric neuroaids or 5

> > other vague names.

> >

> >

> > ++++++

> >

> > Latent HIV virus can be reactivated by vaccinations.

> >

> > Live virus vaccines, especially MMR, often come with a warning for HIV

> > infected individuals – inability to mount apropriate immune responses

> > results in vaccine virus persistance. For example polio vacine strain

> > has been found alive and well in guts of vaccinated individuals. No

> > antibody production to Dtp or measles viruse etc…

> >

> > ++++++

> >

> > _Gastrointestinal findings in HIV positive children:

> > _

> > Leaky gut and malabsorbtion of nutrients

> >

> > Lack of digestive enzymes (impaired pancreatic function)

> >

> > Abnormal reactions to gluten and casein !!

> >

> > Lactose intolerance

> >

> > Sugar intolerance

> >

> > Inability to digest complex carbohydrates

> >

> > Inability to absorb fats and proteins

> >

> > Gastrointestinal pathogen overload: secondary intestinal viruses,

> > bacterial overload.

> >

> > Abnormal immune reactivity to candida albicans.

> >

> >

> > +++++

> >

> > Impaired fine and gross motor skills in HIV positive children

> >

> > Impaired sensory – auditory and visual processing

> >

> >

> > Subclinical hypothyroidism (in adults, no data on children)

> >

> >

> > ++++++

> >

> >

> > HIV causes calcium overload and mitochondrial dysfunction

> >

> > HIV causes oxidative stress and glutathione depletion

> >

> > HIV is inhibited by glutathione and agents that raise glutathione

> >

> > HIV causes microglial activation and inflammation

> >

> > HIV alone or combined with bacterial agents causes breakdown of the

> > blood brain barrier

> >

> >

> > +++++

> >

> > And this: chelation of metals inhibits HIV virus integration into

> > human DNA.

> >

> > Retroviruses (HIV is a retrovirus) in general are _desintegrated_ by

> > chelation agents.

> >

> > Retroviruses use metal complexes to integrate into human DNA

> >

> >

> >

> > +++++

> >

> > Tetracycline antibiotics (minocycline is one) inhibit HIV through same

> > mechanism as chelation agents

> >

> > +++++

> >

> >

> >

> > ....

> >

> > Can I say anything out loud?

> >

> >

> > Gonna go to sleep now

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> >

> > No virus found in this incoming message.

> > Checked by AVG.

> > Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2003 - Release Date: 15/03/2009

14:07

> >

>