Re: X-post Video

[Guest guest]

Are you looking for something without a copyright? There are many videos out

there for Moms - Newman, Mother of 7 and online (this is a great website:

http://newborns.stanford.edu/Breastfeeding/), but I imagine they are all

copyrighted.

Ellen

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> I am looking for a video clip of an IBCLC in action. Essentially what I am

trying to find is media that demonstrates the application of the knowledge,

skills and abilities of an IBCLC. However I would also be content to have a

video 'describing' how an IBCLC applies their knowledge, skills and abilities.

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> I'd love to have a video that depicts a full outpatient consult, although

inpatient consults would be acceptable.

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> Or a video that describes what a consult consists of....it has to be free or

very affordable. Meaning YouTube is not out of the picture. when I say

affordable that would be $20-$25 at the most. Does ILCA make such an animal? I

can't find anything.

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> Any suggestions?

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> Thanks,

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[Guest guest]

Star I hope you can find the time to go to the ILCA website and review the

curriculum proposal that is posted in the discussions forum for members. They

have done an obvious amount of intense work on the project developing a formal

education program for future LC's.

I am going to check it out again this week because something I would love to add

is although the 'recertified once' is considered the requirement for IBCLC's to

mentor, there is so much more involved in developing a formal mentorship process

and simply being an IBCLC, even if one has recertified, does not necessarily

mean we are equipped to provide a quality mentorship. Mentors need training too.

And has been agreed here, not all people care to mentor, which is absolutely

fine.

The perinatal educator program that I completed years ago was an intense 2 year

program that requires students to co-teach and student teach along with

evaluator mentors and it was my poor experience with mentorship in that program

that inspired me to eventually become a trainer and attempt to provide students

with high quality and beneficial feedback including seeking out opportunities to

catch them doing something right and finding areas where they may concretely

focus to improve their skills. In the past the staff was simply required to

mentor students put under their wing. Now we have a training process for

mentors, and attempt to identify staff who have a heart and desire for mentoring

without judging staff who prefer not to mentor.

There needs to be a training process to learn how to appropriately mentor. I had

a comical experience when I was going over the clinical competencies when my

assigned mentor was unexpectedly out of the clinic sick and I ended up with

another colleague observing my outpatient consults. She was very kind and

attempting to be helpful, but she could not stop interjecting. In the end it was

a wasted observation of my skills I didn't even count it but she has NO training

in evaluating or mentoring LC's. We discussed it and she kept expressing to me

how hard it is to sit and wait when things need to be added and I explained to

her that after years of working with perinatal educator students, I know to

wait. I would write a note as they were instructing describing how they needed

to address 'XYZ' and sure enough eventually they might address it, I would cross

my note out. YOu have to wait and give them a chance, we don't all teach in the

same sequence. In the end we would never leave a client with anything less then

optimal support and information, clarification or even making corrections to

misinformation of a student is appropriate but as mentors once someone has the

training we have to wait and watch them develop their own rhythm and style, and

even let them make mistakes, but the client never leaves without 100%. I ended

up making a template that is used to observe a new hire or exam candidate as

they facilitate a consult and my mentor and I used that and it worked out great.

But her and I had to discuss what observing my consults should actually consist

of so I could complete them and develop some of my own personal approaches. They

are both RN IBCLC's and have recertified twice I think, but that doesn't make

them trained mentors. They have never received any training on the process of

mentorship. That should be required of mentors.

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> Dear Jan,

> With the MOST respect possible as you had had a huge impact on my life, I'm

going to disagree with what you wrote.

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> While what you said may be true is some situations it is not always this way.

Sometimes I find that my business self and my lactation self can be at odds.

What usually wins in the end is my business self. I live in a small town and

mentoring in a small town may be different. When 60+% of breastfeeding moms are

on WIC this leaves about 4o% who can actually pay for services. Mentoring many

LCs and then have them hanging their shingle 1 block away from me can take a

bite, especially when their fees are low. It is not true that moms are always

looking for the most experience,they are looking for the first LC that will

pick up the phone or drive over to their homes. This has been my observation.

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> I don't feel like I'm eating the young hopeful LCs, I think it is wonderful

but......

> Honestly I wish the study of LC would be a 4 year course or college degree. I

feel we would end up with more quality.

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> This is a complicated subject so I'll stop here. Just know I struggle and have

been in anguish over to mentor (which is good) or not to mentor and say no

(which is bad). There are no easy answers.

> Much love and respect,

> Star Siegfried

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