Guest guest Posted July 10, 2002 Report Share Posted July 10, 2002 I Love you Martha... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2002 Report Share Posted July 10, 2002 martha, thanks for your thought about thoughts - i can see my judgements more clearly now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2002 Report Share Posted July 10, 2002 Hmm to paraphrase a song: I can see clearly now, my judgments gone! There are no obstacles in my way. thanks all steve Re: i am afraid martha, thanks for your thought about thoughts - i can see my judgements more clearly now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2002 Report Share Posted July 10, 2002 Martha Thanks for the I am afraid part. For now, I think I wil add it to my working template. steve ----------- Steve Cole Insight - Action - Fulfillment Personal & Professional Coaching, The Connection Conversation, Making your computer fun Steve@... i am afraid dear lynn, you wrote: " I search X's face looking for signs of danger and signs of what I hope for--love that overcomes our challenge--but not finding that grace, instead finding that pushing away, those hurtful cutting looks. " in here it seems to me you do say pretty simply what you are wanting/needing from X: love grace i need X to love me i need X to give me grace * * * for awhile i played with this exercise: every time i did the Work, when answering " How do you feel when you believe this? " , i would include the statement: " I am afraid _________. " i would try to put into words what i was afraid of. and then inquire into the truth of that. i discover that every single piece i work on involves fear. (usually of being abandoned, helpless, alone, ultimately some kind of end of me.) it comes to seem to me that inside me fear is the ground of every painful belief. and it seems to always be the same essential fear: " i am " fears " i " -not. and each time i rediscover how fear is not real. the work gives me a respite from my constant fear. wow! maybe the reason the work expands and spreads its peace internally within is because the experience of freedom it gives is timeless: the moments of freedom while doing the inquiry might seem to only last a few seconds, but the nature of that freedom is outside all measurement . . .. to : as i am writing my insights and understandings, i am not present. i am mentally playing/working with concepts. yet i write and share with the belief that by doing so i somehow support an inner movement toward conscious awakening. i understood something, both mentally and more wholly; i try to articulate it, in words, i send it in a message, others may resonate in words i read, all this may arise again out of memory some day to wake me up again when i've forgotten it . . . i believe this has happened: " oh yes! here i am AGAIN, i've been here before " . . . i wonder if this is really true. . . and how i might be getting in my own way by believing it . . . (probably i never really left) a thought turned around is still a thought, written on paper. the work itself seems to suggest to me that the writing down of thoughts, and sharing of them, has a great power. advaita teaching, as i understand it, is that the mind cannot undo the mind, and yet -- in the work it's the mind that we ride at first, that carries us, until it doesn't, into freedom. just playing with thoughts again enjoying your offerings love martha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2002 Report Share Posted July 10, 2002 Martha, I love your clarity. " each time i rediscover how fear is not real " I'd love to hear you elaborate on this, how it plays out for you. Do you feel the sensation of fear in your body, stay with it, accompany it , so to speak, and find it can dissipate into nothing. That's often my experience. I remind myself consciously that this fear is not real, it is not the truth of my being, it's just showing up looking to be felt and released. I like Adyashanti's statement " illusions are dying to open " . Love, Margaret Just remembering how A Course in Miracles says there are only two emotions - love and fear. Anything other than the experience of love will have to spring from fear so your inquiry into " I am afraid __________ " makes good sense. > " I search X's face looking for > signs of danger and signs of what I hope > for--love that overcomes our > challenge--but not finding that grace, > instead finding that pushing away, > those hurtful cutting looks. " > > in here it seems to me you do say pretty simply what you are > wanting/needing from X: > love > grace > > i need X to love me > i need X to give me grace > * * * > > for awhile i played with this exercise: every time i did the Work, when > answering " How do you feel when you believe this? " , i would include the > statement: " I am afraid _________. " i would try to put into words what > i was afraid of. and then inquire into the truth of that. > > i discover that every single piece i work on involves fear. (usually of > being abandoned, helpless, alone, ultimately some kind of end of me.) > it comes to seem to me that inside me fear is the ground of every > painful belief. and it seems to always be the same essential fear: " i > am " fears " i " -not. > > and each time i rediscover how fear is not real. the work gives me a > respite from my constant fear. > > wow! maybe the reason the work expands and spreads its peace internally > within is because the experience of freedom it gives is timeless: the > moments of freedom while doing the inquiry might seem to only last a few > seconds, but the nature of that freedom is outside all measurement . . > . > > to : > > as i am writing my insights and understandings, i am not present. i am > mentally playing/working with concepts. yet i write and share with the > belief that by doing so i somehow support an inner movement toward > conscious awakening. i understood something, both mentally and more > wholly; i try to articulate it, in words, i send it in a message, others > may resonate in words i read, all this may arise again out of memory > some day to wake me up again when i've forgotten it . . . i believe this > has happened: " oh yes! here i am AGAIN, i've been here before " . . . i > wonder if this is really true. . . and how i might be getting in my own > way by believing it . . . (probably i never really left) > > a thought turned around is still a thought, written on paper. the work > itself seems to suggest to me that the writing down of thoughts, and > sharing of them, has a great power. advaita teaching, as i understand > it, is that the mind cannot undo the mind, and yet -- in the work it's > the mind that we ride at first, that carries us, until it doesn't, into > freedom. > > just playing with thoughts again > > enjoying your offerings > > love > martha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2002 Report Share Posted July 10, 2002 Margaret, I have done the work on fear, anger, and sadness with some very interesting results ie this is anger - is it true? - it doesnt go away so much as i viscerally realize that to experience what i am epxeriencing is wonderful, alive, vital, joyous without my story that it is fear, anger, sadness fear is so close to excitement - sadness is so close to tender hearted joy - anger is so close to feeling ecstatic celebration - without the story the bodily experience apart from the thought " anger, fear, sadness " ... is much more life affirming in my experience - some of the most viscerally potent work i've done was on my story on these emotions.....not on the story associated with the emotion...but the story about the experience itself... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2002 Report Share Posted July 10, 2002 " fear is so close to excitement - sadness is so close to tender hearted joy - anger is so close to feeling ecstatic celebration - without the story the bodily experience apart from the thought " anger, fear, sadness " ... is much more life affirming in my experience " I've noticed that when I remember/am able to drop the story/thoughts about the emotion, it really is felt as just sensations in the body, not so bad at all, really. I've been feeling anger coursing through me the last few days, not a vicious anger but more like a force, an energy that's proclaiming " I don't give a shit what people think anymore " and that feels celebratory. Sadness can feel deliciously sweet, at times. I contract more around fear - it's my least favorite emotion. Love, Margaret > Margaret, > I have done the work on fear, anger, and sadness with some very interesting results > > ie this is anger - is it true? - it doesnt go away so much as i viscerally realize that to experience what i am epxeriencing is wonderful, alive, vital, joyous without my story that it is fear, anger, sadness > > fear is so close to excitement - sadness is so close to tender hearted joy - anger is so close to feeling ecstatic celebration - without the story > > the bodily experience apart from the thought " anger, fear, sadness " ... is much more life affirming in my experience - > > some of the most viscerally potent work i've done was on my story on these emotions.....not on the story associated with the emotion...but the story about the experience itself... > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2002 Report Share Posted July 10, 2002 Fear Sucks OOPs time to take out another worksheet. steve Re: i am afraid <deleted> I contract more around fear - it's my least favorite emotion. Love, Margaret [deleted] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2002 Report Share Posted July 10, 2002 " each time i rediscover how fear is not real " Haven't you learned the acronym? False Evidence Appearing Real Of course, as Neale Walsch says, it can also mean F**k Everything And Run :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2002 Report Share Posted July 11, 2002 Margaret said: > Just remembering how A Course in Miracles says there are only two > emotions - love and fear. Anything other than the experience of love > will have to spring from fear so your inquiry into " I am afraid > __________ " makes good sense. ACM also says only love is real; fear is an illusion, just as light is real and dark is merely its absence. Fear is only a forgetting of love, and when we do The Work and look fear in the face, we find it hasn't one. And there's the love. Sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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