Re: AMBUSH!!

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I was just wondering if I ever find myself in that

situation could I end the meeting until I had who I

needed there with me? They may have had the right not

to be recorded but don't you have the right to

record?? Why would they not want to be recorded? I

feel really bad for you but fighting is just what you

are going to need to do! It is just to bad it has to

be that way! These situations[ you would think] do not

have to be so difficult but unfortunately they are.

As this situation continues please keep us all posted.

This had to be a slap in the face to you!!!You are in

our thoughts-Beth--- Casey Traver

wrote:

> Well, so much for things improving!

>

> My DDD worker wasn't able to attend the meeting (for

> which I only had 6 days notice), so I planned to

> record it. They flatly refused. " This meeting will

> NOT be recorded " . Why?? " We have the right not to

> be recorded "

>

> It ended up being, not a meeting to discuss testing,

> but to report to me that they are recommending a

> move to self-contained (not in this school),

> effective Jan 3. " There will be no place for her at

> this school as of Jan 3 " , was the quote from the

> Special Ed coordinator. The only way to stop it?

> Request a due process hearing

>

> Before they sprung this on me, they looked at which

> funding category she would draw from. Some of her

> scores are too high to fund her through the

> " mentally retarded " category, and some of them are

> too high to pull funding through the DD category, so

> the only one left is " medically impaired " based on

> DS and heart surgery. Ironic that she's doing TOO

> WELL to be considered MR or even DD, but not well

> enough to be in their school.

>

> Today's been bad, as you might expect, but tomorrow

> I meet with the DDD worker (who has been filled in)

> and after that, probably contact a lawyer that was

> recommended. I'm hoping that a well phrased letter,

> on his letterhead, encouraging them to have another

> meeting to discuss placement, and their own

> " continuum of placements " , will keep us out of the

> legal realm, but I'm not too optimistic.

>

> I'll keep you posted. I'm also looking into

> choicing her into the neighboring district which

> does not have ANY self-contained classes

> (ironically, where we lived until the twins were 1

> 1/2, when I moved partly for " better schools " )

>

> Keep us in your thoughts, will you? Thanks,

>

> Casey

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Oh Casey....I am so sorry. Would you like to move to Ma.? They are so great here....we have a self-contained classroom...but would not ever go there. I wish you all the luck with this.

AMBUSH!!

Well, so much for things improving!

My DDD worker wasn't able to attend the meeting (for which I only had 6 days notice), so I planned to record it. They flatly refused. "This meeting will NOT be recorded". Why?? "We have the right not to be recorded"

It ended up being, not a meeting to discuss testing, but to report to me that they are recommending a move to self-contained (not in this school), effective Jan 3. "There will be no place for her at this school as of Jan 3", was the quote from the Special Ed coordinator. The only way to stop it? Request a due process hearing

Before they sprung this on me, they looked at which funding category she would draw from. Some of her scores are too high to fund her through the "mentally retarded" category, and some of them are too high to pull funding through the DD category, so the only one left is "medically impaired" based on DS and heart surgery. Ironic that she's doing TOO WELL to be considered MR or even DD, but not well enough to be in their school.

Today's been bad, as you might expect, but tomorrow I meet with the DDD worker (who has been filled in) and after that, probably contact a lawyer that was recommended. I'm hoping that a well phrased letter, on his letterhead, encouraging them to have another meeting to discuss placement, and their own "continuum of placements", will keep us out of the legal realm, but I'm not too optimistic.

I'll keep you posted. I'm also looking into choicing her into the neighboring district which does not have ANY self-contained classes (ironically, where we lived until the twins were 1 1/2, when I moved partly for "better schools")

Keep us in your thoughts, will you? Thanks,

Casey

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Casey, What state do you live in? If it's OK, I'd like to forward your email to my local (CT) attorney -- she's also the mom of a HS'er with DS -- who limits her practice to (and is passionate about) LRE/inclusion issues. She may be able/willing to offer some suggestions (and, if she's local, I'd highly recommend her to represent you -- she was a godsend to us when my daughter was offered only a self-contained option, in a non-neighborhood school, for K!). (Did I offer to do this a few months ago -- my brain is like a sieve...) Sheryl KnappCasey Traver wrote: Well, so much for things improving! My DDD worker wasn't able to attend the meeting (for which I only had 6 days notice), so I planned to record it. They flatly refused. "This meeting will NOT be recorded". Why?? "We have the right not to be recorded" It ended up being, not a meeting to discuss testing, but to report to me that they are recommending a move to self-contained (not in this school), effective Jan 3. "There will be no place for her at this school as of Jan 3", was the quote from the Special Ed coordinator. The only way to stop

it? Request a due process hearing Before they sprung this on me, they looked at which funding category she would draw from. Some of her scores are too high to fund her through the "mentally retarded" category, and some of them are too high to pull funding through the DD category, so the only one left is "medically impaired" based on DS and heart surgery. Ironic that she's doing TOO WELL to be considered MR or even DD, but not well enough to be in their school. Today's been bad, as you might expect, but tomorrow I meet with the DDD worker (who has been filled in) and after that, probably contact a lawyer that was recommended. I'm hoping that a well phrased letter, on his letterhead, encouraging them to have another meeting to discuss placement, and their own "continuum of placements", will keep us out of the legal realm, but I'm not too optimistic. I'll

keep you posted. I'm also looking into choicing her into the neighboring district which does not have ANY self-contained classes (ironically, where we lived until the twins were 1 1/2, when I moved partly for "better schools") Keep us in your thoughts, will you? Thanks, Casey

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FYI... from my attorney (I thought this might be of interest to others as well): "The parent needs to ask for Due Process. Then her kid will remain at school in Stay Put. But more importantly, she needs to ask for technical assistance for the school, which she can get in DP, so the school knows how to include the child. I doubt that the school is bad and they hate the kid. They just lack the ability to include her and they need to be educated."

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Casey, that is just awful. So sorry you have to deal with that and at Christmas time! Hang in there! It's just unbelievable that this awfulness still exists. You can move to Arlington, VA and get great support!!

Kay Tiernan, Mom to Jon, Liz, (Ds), 7 1/2 yrs. old, Arlington, VA

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Casey,

My twins are still in the Early intervention program,

so I have no advice for you and I want you to know

that you and your daughter are in our thoughts.

Mom to & (2) and Ike (8mo)

--- Casey Traver wrote:

> Well, so much for things improving!

>

> My DDD worker wasn't able to attend the meeting (for

> which I only had 6 days notice), so I planned to

> record it. They flatly refused. " This meeting will

> NOT be recorded " . Why?? " We have the right not to

> be recorded "

>

> It ended up being, not a meeting to discuss testing,

> but to report to me that they are recommending a

> move to self-contained (not in this school),

> effective Jan 3. " There will be no place for her at

> this school as of Jan 3 " , was the quote from the

> Special Ed coordinator. The only way to stop it?

> Request a due process hearing

>

> Before they sprung this on me, they looked at which

> funding category she would draw from. Some of her

> scores are too high to fund her through the

> " mentally retarded " category, and some of them are

> too high to pull funding through the DD category, so

> the only one left is " medically impaired " based on

> DS and heart surgery. Ironic that she's doing TOO

> WELL to be considered MR or even DD, but not well

> enough to be in their school.

>

> Today's been bad, as you might expect, but tomorrow

> I meet with the DDD worker (who has been filled in)

> and after that, probably contact a lawyer that was

> recommended. I'm hoping that a well phrased letter,

> on his letterhead, encouraging them to have another

> meeting to discuss placement, and their own

> " continuum of placements " , will keep us out of the

> legal realm, but I'm not too optimistic.

>

> I'll keep you posted. I'm also looking into

> choicing her into the neighboring district which

> does not have ANY self-contained classes

> (ironically, where we lived until the twins were 1

> 1/2, when I moved partly for " better schools " )

>

> Keep us in your thoughts, will you? Thanks,

>

> Casey

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You absolutely have the right to record your meeting, especially, when you are there alone, that is the reasoning.

You could suggest that "they" too bring their own tape recorder, if that will make them feel better.

Yes, you can stop a meeting if you counted on another person attending, and they did not show up.

It's a shame, but I've been there before,

Good Luck!!

Gail Mom to...

Bobby 12 1/2, Jillian 10, & Tara (Ds) 7 1/2

Re: AMBUSH!!

I was just wondering if I ever find myself in thatsituation could I end the meeting until I had who Ineeded there with me? They may have had the right notto be recorded but don't you have the right torecord?? Why would they not want to be recorded? Ifeel really bad for you but fighting is just what youare going to need to do! It is just to bad it has tobe that way! These situations[ you would think] do nothave to be so difficult but unfortunately they are.As this situation continues please keep us all posted.This had to be a slap in the face to you!!!You are inour thoughts-Beth--- Casey Traver<stephaniesmom200msn> wrote:> Well, so much for things improving!> > My DDD worker wasn't able to attend the meeting (for> which I only had 6 days notice), so I planned to> record it. They flatly refused. "This meeting will> NOT be recorded". Why?? "We have the right not to> be recorded"> > It ended up being, not a meeting to discuss testing,> but to report to me that they are recommending a> move to self-contained (not in this school),> effective Jan 3. "There will be no place for her at> this school as of Jan 3", was the quote from the> Special Ed coordinator. The only way to stop it? > Request a due process hearing> > Before they sprung this on me, they looked at which> funding category she would draw from. Some of her> scores are too high to fund her through the> "mentally retarded" category, and some of them are> too high to pull funding through the DD category, so> the only one left is "medically impaired" based on> DS and heart surgery. Ironic that she's doing TOO> WELL to be considered MR or even DD, but not well> enough to be in their school.> > Today's been bad, as you might expect, but tomorrow> I meet with the DDD worker (who has been filled in)> and after that, probably contact a lawyer that was> recommended. I'm hoping that a well phrased letter,> on his letterhead, encouraging them to have another> meeting to discuss placement, and their own> "continuum of placements", will keep us out of the> legal realm, but I'm not too optimistic.> > I'll keep you posted. I'm also looking into> choicing her into the neighboring district which> does not have ANY self-contained classes> (ironically, where we lived until the twins were 1> 1/2, when I moved partly for "better schools")> > Keep us in your thoughts, will you? Thanks,> > Casey__________________________________________________________Need a quick answer? Get one in minutes from people who know.Ask your question on www.Answers.yahoo.com

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Casey,

I'm so sorry that happened. That's just not right. I hope the

attorney can get things back on track for you. I'll be praying that

you get a quick resolution for you and .

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This is an excellent resource for

a number of issues: http://www.wrightslaw.com/

I subscribe to the newsletter (it’s

free). Attached is a link to an

article about recording IEP meetings

http://www.wrightslaw.com/advoc/tips/palmer.meeting.tape.htm

, mom to Kyla (DS) and Zoe,

age 7

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Casey,

That was my fear when I heard their was going to be alot of them, it's always easy to be thoughtless when you are in a group against a parent! I have lived through it and I will never attend a meeting alone again. As far as taping here in FL they are suppose to have advance notice and then they always tape a copy for themselves, which suits me fine, we tape almost every IEP. I do not believe they can reach final placement for in a meeting where you are not in attendance, all over IDEA it states parental involvement at all meeting where LRE are discussed. I was suppose to meet w/ my ESE Director last summer and when he was notified I would be taping, his secretary told me he considered our meeting an informal conversation and didn't feel comfortable being taped, so his sect'y would reschedule a fromal meeting that was 5 months ago. It just so happened w/ our ADHD meds Zack is doing much better, but my district is full of people who absolutely believe our DS kids ahould only be considered to be placed in self contained no discussion! I hope someone can help you w/ the legal stuff it sounds crazy that's is doing too well to be at their school, what jerks. I will pray the situation can be resolved and not ruin your holidays, I know how stressful it is fighting the school system. Have you ever considered the OFFICE OF CIVIL RIGHTS, here is the website- this is where you go to file a suit claiming her RIGHTS to be educated w/ her nondisabled peers as an individual w/DS are being denied. I have my complaint filled out I have never sent it in? Not trying to confuse you, just thought it may be something to try other than mediation/due process. Good luck keep us posted.

Irene

http://www.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/docs/howto.html

AMBUSH!!

Well, so much for things improving!

My DDD worker wasn't able to attend the meeting (for which I only had 6 days notice), so I planned to record it. They flatly refused. "This meeting will NOT be recorded". Why?? "We have the right not to be recorded"

It ended up being, not a meeting to discuss testing, but to report to me that they are recommending a move to self-contained (not in this school), effective Jan 3. "There will be no place for her at this school as of Jan 3", was the quote from the Special Ed coordinator. The only way to stop it? Request a due process hearing

Before they sprung this on me, they looked at which funding category she would draw from. Some of her scores are too high to fund her through the "mentally retarded" category, and some of them are too high to pull funding through the DD category, so the only one left is "medically impaired" based on DS and heart surgery. Ironic that she's doing TOO WELL to be considered MR or even DD, but not well enough to be in their school.

Today's been bad, as you might expect, but tomorrow I meet with the DDD worker (who has been filled in) and after that, probably contact a lawyer that was recommended. I'm hoping that a well phrased letter, on his letterhead, encouraging them to have another meeting to discuss placement, and their own "continuum of placements", will keep us out of the legal realm, but I'm not too optimistic.

I'll keep you posted. I'm also looking into choicing her into the neighboring district which does not have ANY self-contained classes (ironically, where we lived until the twins were 1 1/2, when I moved partly for "better schools")

Keep us in your thoughts, will you? Thanks,

Casey