Re: Potty Training Advice?

January 3, 2007

Wow, almost potty trained at 2.5!! Let me know how you

got as far as you did, my daughter is 4 and not potty

trained.

Mom of (DS) and -age 4

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January 4, 2007

My girls are 3 and almost 2 months. has been working on potty training since she was about 2. I never thought about the transition from the little potty to the big potty. I think that is where we are having difficulty. Sadie is not walking yet, so I haven't even begun to potty train her. I think sees how Sadie gets to get away with not potty that it has prevented her from being completely potty trained. will go, when we remind her and put her on the potty. She doesn't take the initiative herself. Part of me doesn't know if this is being stubborn or what. I also like the suggestion about changing and everything in the bathroom (if only my bathroom was big enough). There is suppose to be some type of seminar here in Denver about potty training and kids with developmental delays. I was thinking about going but not sure. As far as Denver hogging up all the snow, if you want some you can

come get it. We are completely sick of it ! Missy and Sadie (ds) age 3 and almost 2 months __________________________________________________

January 5, 2007

Hi -

I thought I would chime in on the potty training advice. Ben is 4

and is completely potty trained during the day (although still in

pull ups at night). I used a lot of the suggestions I've read

here. I never really used pull ups during the day - used only

undies. Definitely did a lot of laundry for a while :-). But when

he wet his pants, he could feel it. I don't think every half an

hour is really doable with twins and an 8 month old!! You'll be

living in the bathroom! Do you notice them having stretches during

the day when they are dry? If so I would take my cues for timing

from that. How long do they seem to be able to stay dry on their

own without reminders? I would try for every hour or hour and a

half. I did what I saw another mom had posted - took him at regular

times during the day - first thing in the morning, after each meal,

right before bed. And of course when they go - praise, praise,

praise. I also gave lots of praise when I noticed Ben was dry

during stretches of the day before we started actively potty

training him.

I also found school to be HUGELY helpful with this. He saw the

other kids going to the bathroom (his teachers took him in as well -

even before he was ready) and oddly, when we first started with

underwear (last March)- he never had an accident at school, was much

more likely to have them at home (figures!).

Good luck - I hope some of Ben's experiences might be helpful...

Also - if anyone out there has any wisdom on how to lose the pull

ups at night - I'd love to hear your feedback!

Bess St. Lawrence, mom to

Gretel - 6

Ben (DS) and Tucker - turned 4 in November

>

> Hello Everyone!

>

> I am cracking down on the potty training and really don't know how

to go about this.

> and are now 2.5 years old and are completely potty trained

to go number 2 on the

> potty, but number 1 is a different story. Any tips would be

greatly appreciated.

>

> Our OT said to focus on one at at time? Anyone tried this

method? Our DT said to put them

> on there every 1/2 hour! Geesh, I'd never leave the bathroom!

>

> Thanks in advance,

>

> Mom to & , 2.5 yo identical twins and Isaiah, 8.5

months

>

January 5, 2007

LOL about the snow part. Here I am in Canada and no sign of it at all!!! Very mild today...very unusual. Enjoyed the day outside tho. , mom to twins Nicala & ,ds/adhd/autism (10), (8), & (1)Missy wrote: My girls are 3 and almost 2 months. has been working on potty training since she was about 2. I never thought about the transition from the little potty to the big potty. I think that is where we are

having difficulty. Sadie is not walking yet, so I haven't even begun to potty train her. I think sees how Sadie gets to get away with not potty that it has prevented her from being completely potty trained. will go, when we remind her and put her on the potty. She doesn't take the initiative herself. Part of me doesn't know if this is being stubborn or what. I also like the suggestion about changing and everything in the bathroom (if only my bathroom was big enough). There is suppose to be some type of seminar here in Denver about potty training and kids with developmental delays. I was thinking about going but not sure. As far as Denver hogging up all the snow, if you want some you can come get it. We are completely sick of it ! Missy and Sadie (ds) age 3 and almost 2

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January 5, 2007

THANK YOU everyone! You have given some great advice!

One more question...how far into the whole thing did

you do away w/the diaper and start the training pants?

Did you got to training pants from the get go, or did

you wait until they started to get into it? I am

hoping this won't be as aweful of an experience as I

had anticipated as I am starting to see some good

things with the one twin ()...hopefully his

brother will follow suit!

--- wrote:

> LOL about the snow part. Here I am in Canada and no

> sign of it at all!!! Very mild today...very

> unusual. Enjoyed the day outside tho.

>

> , mom to twins Nicala & ,ds/adhd/autism

> (10), (8), & (1)

>

> Missy wrote:

> My girls are 3 and almost 2 months.

> has been working on potty training since she

> was about 2. I never thought about the transition

> from the little potty to the big potty. I think that

> is where we are having difficulty. Sadie is not

> walking yet, so I haven't even begun to potty train

> her. I think sees how Sadie gets to get away

> with not potty that it has prevented her from being

> completely potty trained. will go, when we

> remind her and put her on the potty. She doesn't

> take the initiative herself. Part of me doesn't know

> if this is being stubborn or what.

>

> I also like the suggestion about changing and

> everything in the bathroom (if only my bathroom was

> big enough). There is suppose to be some type of

> seminar here in Denver about potty training and kids

> with developmental delays. I was thinking about

> going but not sure.

>

> As far as Denver hogging up all the snow, if you

> want some you can come get it. We are completely

> sick of it !

>

> Missy

> and Sadie (ds) age 3 and almost 2 months

>

> __________________________________________________

>

January 5, 2007

,

My Mom actually started the process when I was in the

hospital having our baby!

The twins are/were terribly constipated and so

everytime they started to grunt, my mom took them.

They liked it, so I rolled with it! They didn't have

to push as hard (gravity) and TMI ALERT: They didn't

like sitting on those rocks!

We still struggle w/communication. Their preferred

method is to come to me motioning 'up' with a beat red

face! However, the one twin will shake the " L "

(instead of T, which he can't do) and the other is

starting to sign toilet, but usually is on the toilet

by then.

Good Luck!

--- Okrem wrote:

>

> Wow, almost potty trained at 2.5!! Let me know how

> you

> got as far as you did, my daughter is 4 and not

> potty

> trained.

>

> Mom of (DS) and -age 4

>

> __________________________________________________

>

January 6, 2007

I found that, for two of my triplets (including one typical child), they were still having accidents as long as I still had a diaper or pullup (it didn't matter which) on. For my typical son, it was easy -- just lose the pullup, and the training was done; for my daughter w/DS, there were a fair number of accidents at first (we wound up having to replace our family room carpet) but at least she'd notice when her pants/legs (vs. pullup) were wet, and she did eventually catch on. That being said... I think we started the training with my daughter too early. One day when she was just 3 at at my parents', she pulled off her diaper and tried to stop my mother from putting it back on. My mother took this as a sign that she was "ready" to be trained -- but, in retrospect, Louisa didn't really "get" the potty issue yet and I think the process would have taken less time (and agita) if we had waited a little to

start. Interestingly, my daughter was initially potty trained at night, but not in the daytime; they we got her trained during the day (with very occasional accidents, typically if I let too much time go by without bringing her to the bathroom -- she didn't know she had to go until it was too late often) but lost the nighttime training! It wasn't until she got her tonsils and adenoids removed -- which apparently had been partially blocking her airway and causing her to wake frequently during the night -- that she stopped having night accidents... literally overnight! In terms of helping my daughter to "get it", I found it helpful to load her with juices and then bring her to the bathroom when I knew she'd be able to urinate.... then we could of course pile on the praise when she went! But of course you run the risk of waiting too long and causing an accident when you do that, so it's best to do this in a carpet-free

zone! Good luck! Sheryl Knapp, mom to Caleb, Louisa(DS) and Ethan 7 Durre wrote: THANK YOU everyone! You have given some great advice!One more question...how far into the whole thing didyou do away w/the diaper and start the training pants?Did you got to training pants from the get go, or didyou wait until they started to get into it? I amhoping this won't be as aweful of an

experience as Ihad anticipated as I am starting to see some goodthings with the one twin ()...hopefully hisbrother will follow suit! --- <henderson_laurayahoo (DOT) ca> wrote:> LOL about the snow part. Here I am in Canada and no> sign of it at all!!! Very mild today...very> unusual. Enjoyed the day outside tho.> > , mom to twins Nicala & ,ds/adhd/autism> (10), (8), & (1)> > Missy <m_wood77> wrote:> My girls are 3 and almost 2 months.> has been working on potty training since she> was about 2. I never thought about the transition> from the little potty to the big potty. I think that> is where we are having difficulty. Sadie is not> walking yet, so I

haven't even begun to potty train> her. I think sees how Sadie gets to get away> with not potty that it has prevented her from being> completely potty trained. will go, when we> remind her and put her on the potty. She doesn't> take the initiative herself. Part of me doesn't know> if this is being stubborn or what.> > I also like the suggestion about changing and> everything in the bathroom (if only my bathroom was> big enough). There is suppose to be some type of> seminar here in Denver about potty training and kids> with developmental delays. I was thinking about> going but not sure.> > As far as Denver hogging up all the snow, if you> want some you can come get it. We are completely> sick of it !> > Missy> and Sadie (ds) age 3 and almost 2 months> > > >

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January 15, 2007

Just throwing my two cents in on the potty training. just turned 5 and absolutely will not potty train. She makes a joke of it and sits on the potty, wipes, flushes and washes hands. Then as soon as I put on a clean pull up she goes and says "mommy, I'm wet" and of course I change her again. I'm actually going to tell her that the store has run out of pull ups (I can hear you all laughing right now) and I have those thick cotton underpants which are great, they absorb fantastically, that I'm going to put on her for a day and run her into the bathroom every 20 - 30 minutes and see how that goes.

Sherrill

mom to Jillian 9, and (D/s) 5

January 15, 2007

My daughter was playing games with the potty at around that age too -- she'd actually make a "pssss" (like she was urinating) sound and laugh... We nipped it in the bud (at home anyway; they're still letting her get away with it sometimes at school) by not letter her leave the potty until she urinated -- although of course we would wait until we knew she COULD go (e.g., by giving her lots of juice, which she loves anyway!). The key is to not let it become (or continue to be...) a power struggle and/or game -- you need to change the climate so that you're going to the bathroom for a specific purpose; without of any games (or yelling/emotions). It was difficult at first -- she'd often try to leave without going, but we'd make it very clear (in a very calm voice) that she was not leaving the bathroom until she had gone -- and eventually she gave in and relented. Again, this won't work if your daughter

cannot urinate -- and you don't want to have to wait a long itme until she does. Every once in a while she'll try it again now (2 years later), and I very calmly explain that I'll wait until she has gone (often I'll give her a choice of having me stay in our outside of the bathroom, to give her some element of control -- she virtually always wants me to stay).... but we're finally at the point where she'll go in by herself most of the time and tell me about it afterwards. Now if anyone has any advice on wiping-training, I could really use the help -- I'm growing very tired of cleaning up bm off her clothing, the toilet, the floor, etc.... Sheryl, mom to Caleb, Louisa(Ds) and Ethan 7SETREB@... wrote: Just throwing my two cents in on the potty training. just turned 5 and absolutely will not potty train. She makes a joke of it and sits on the potty, wipes, flushes and washes hands. Then as soon as I put on a clean pull up she goes and says "mommy, I'm wet" and of course I change her again. I'm actually going to tell her that the store has run out of pull ups (I can hear you all laughing right now) and I have those thick cotton underpants which are great, they absorb fantastically, that I'm going to put on her for a day and run her into the bathroom every 20 - 30 minutes and see how

that goes. Sherrill mom to Jillian 9, and (D/s) 5

January 16, 2007

We are actually also working on the potty training here at my house as well. Braden wouldn't go at all on the potty a couple of months ago (He also just turned 5). But as soon as we put him in the tub he would go - completely putting out his twin who was also in the tub! So, we got pretty desperate to make sure he went before he got in the tub. We noticed that every time that warm water touched his bottom he would go. We tried filling a dixie cup with warm water and poured it on his little peanut while on the potty and lo and behold he went! So, we would take him in and let him give it a go and if he wasn't successful we would just add water and ta-da. He then really got the idea of what he was suppose to be doing on the potty. We were happy and of course he loved the celebration of it all. We tapered off the amount of water used as well. After about a month he no longer needed any water at all to be successful. He goes whenever we put him on now - although he still doesn't tell us when he has to. Our next challenge will be tackling number 2 - anybody have any tricks of the trade here? He has a BM about 2 or 3 times a day and strangely enough he gives no indication that he is passing one. No face turning red, no face of concentration, nothing. Not even the same time every day. Could be tricky... Bethany mom to Allie 11, Cameron 7, and Braden (DS) and Grant 5

Reply-To: Multiples-DS To: Multiples-DS Subject: Re: Potty Training Advice?Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 19:14:13 -0800 (PST)

My daughter was playing games with the potty at around that age too -- she'd actually make a "pssss" (like she was urinating) sound and laugh... We nipped it in the bud (at home anyway; they're still letting her get away with it sometimes at school) by not letter her leave the potty until she urinated -- although of course we would wait until we knew she COULD go (e.g., by giving her lots of juice, which she loves anyway!). The key is to not let it become (or continue to be...) a power struggle and/or game -- you need to change the climate so that you're going to the bathroom for a specific purpose; without of any games (or yelling/emotions). It was difficult at first -- she'd often try to leave without going, but we'd make it very clear (in a very calm voice) that she was not leaving the bathroom until she had gone -- and eventually she gave in and relented. Again, this won't work if your daughter cannot urinate -- and you don't want to have to wait a long itme until she does.

Every once in a while she'll try it again now (2 years later), and I very calmly explain that I'll wait until she has gone (often I'll give her a choice of having me stay in our outside of the bathroom, to give her some element of control -- she virtually always wants me to stay).... but we're finally at the point where she'll go in by herself most of the time and tell me about it afterwards.

Now if anyone has any advice on wiping-training, I could really use the help -- I'm growing very tired of cleaning up bm off her clothing, the toilet, the floor, etc....

Sheryl, mom to Caleb, Louisa(Ds) and Ethan 7SETREB@... wrote:

Just throwing my two cents in on the potty training. just turned 5 and absolutely will not potty train. She makes a joke of it and sits on the potty, wipes, flushes and washes hands. Then as soon as I put on a clean pull up she goes and says "mommy, I'm wet" and of course I change her again. I'm actually going to tell her that the store has run out of pull ups (I can hear you all laughing right now) and I have those thick cotton underpants which are great, they absorb fantastically, that I'm going to put on her for a day and run her into the bathroom every 20 - 30 minutes and see how that goes.

Sherrill

mom to Jillian 9, and (D/s) 5

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January 16, 2007

We still have occasional problems w/BM's in the tub (or swimming pool...). The only thing that's worked for us is to tell her that she can't go in the tub/pool (which she LOVES) until she goes "poopy" -- but, again, the key is to make sure she CAN go (e.g., it's an unreasonable request if she's already had a bm that day, since she rarely goes more than 1x/day) which is very difficult to determine sometimes... although I will say that, when my gut tells me that she's due for a bm, she typically is... SherylBethany and Tom Mirka wrote: We are actually also working on the potty training here at my house as well. Braden wouldn't go at all on the potty a couple of months ago (He also just turned 5). But as soon as we put him in the tub he would go - completely putting out his twin who was also in the tub! So, we got pretty desperate to make sure he went before he got in the tub. We noticed that every time that warm water touched his bottom he would go. We tried filling a dixie cup with warm water and poured it on his little peanut while on the potty and lo and behold he went! So, we would take him in and let him give it a go and if he wasn't successful we would just add water and ta-da. He then really got the idea of what he was suppose to be doing on the potty. We were happy and of course he loved the celebration of it all. We tapered off the amount of water used

as well. After about a month he no longer needed any water at all to be successful. He goes whenever we put him on now - although he still doesn't tell us when he has to. Our next challenge will be tackling number 2 - anybody have any tricks of the trade here? He has a BM about 2 or 3 times a day and strangely enough he gives no indication that he is passing one. No face turning red, no face of concentration, nothing. Not even the same time every day. Could be tricky... Bethany mom to Allie 11, Cameron 7, and Braden (DS) and Grant 5 From: Sheryl Knapp <sknapp44sbcglobal (DOT) net>Reply-To: Multiples-DS To: Multiples-DS Subject: Re: Potty Training Advice?Date:

Mon, 15 Jan 2007 19:14:13 -0800 (PST) My daughter was playing games with the potty at around that age too -- she'd actually make a "pssss" (like she was urinating) sound and laugh... We nipped it in the bud (at home anyway; they're still letting her get away with it sometimes at school) by not letter her leave the potty until she urinated -- although of course we would wait until we knew she COULD go (e.g., by giving her lots of juice, which she loves anyway!). The key is to not let it become (or continue to be...) a power struggle and/or game -- you need to change the climate so that you're going to the bathroom for a specific purpose; without of any games (or yelling/emotions). It was difficult at first -- she'd often try to leave without going, but we'd make it very clear (in a very calm voice) that she was not leaving

the bathroom until she had gone -- and eventually she gave in and relented. Again, this won't work if your daughter cannot urinate -- and you don't want to have to wait a long itme until she does. Every once in a while she'll try it again now (2 years later), and I very calmly explain that I'll wait until she has gone (often I'll give her a choice of having me stay in our outside of the bathroom, to give her some element of control -- she virtually always wants me to stay).... but we're finally at the point where she'll go in by herself most of the time and tell me about it afterwards. Now if anyone has any advice on wiping-training, I could really use the help -- I'm growing very tired of cleaning up bm off her clothing, the toilet, the floor, etc.... Sheryl, mom to Caleb, Louisa(Ds) and Ethan 7SETREB@... wrote: Just throwing my two cents in on the potty training. just turned 5 and absolutely will not potty train. She makes a joke of it and sits on the potty, wipes, flushes and washes hands. Then as soon as I put on a clean pull up she goes and says "mommy, I'm wet" and of course I change her again. I'm actually going to tell her that the store has run out of pull ups (I can hear you all laughing right now) and I have those thick cotton underpants which are great, they absorb fantastically, that I'm going to put on her for a day and run her into the bathroom every 20 - 30 minutes and see how that goes. Sherrill mom to Jillian 9, and (D/s) 5 Type your favorite song. Get a customized station. Try MSN Radio powered by Pandora.

January 17, 2007

I recently bought a book on Amazon called " Toilet Training for

Individuals with Autism and Related Disorders " by Wheeler. I

think it's a pretty good book for children with any type of special

needs. It does have a lot to say about sensory issues which may or may

not apply to your child, but it has some good advice on training. I've

finally had it with the pull-ups and we're working hard at getting Luke

trained. He does pretty well but will not tell us when he has to go.

There is a section on habit training as well. It might be worth

checking with your library to see if they have a copy. Otherwise, it's

not terribly expensive thru Amazon.

Good luck!

--mom to Luke (DS) and Jake, 4 1/2

January 17, 2007

Sherrill-

So glad to hear that I am not the only one having trouble training my daughter. She is 7 and is still having not much interest! One day maybe I will be able to get this done!