Re: Lyme/Bell's Palsy/OCD

[Guest guest]

When my son had a sudden tic and personality change in October 08, my

former pediatrician and two neurologists dismissed PANDAS.

I'd suggest going to NIMH's website and reviewing their criteria for

PANDAS. If you feel it's a possibility, you may want to challenge your

doctor's opinion, and keep a daily journal of mood and health events.

You will often read that the treatment for PANDAS is the same as for

regular OCD. But what we're finding is that if we see early symptoms

and treat with antibiotics, we can shrink an episode into 2-3 weeks of

milder symptoms (opposed to the two months we suffered through at his

worst episode when we first learned about PANDAS and got on the

diagnosis merry-go-round).

This may not fit your situation. I only chime in because I've learned

that many in the medical and education community only know about the

" controversy " that surrounds PANDAS and are not current on more recent

research.

In the coming weeks, you may become better educated on mental health

issues than your own doctor. Trust your gut and keep digging until you

find answers that feel right. No one knows your child better than you.

Stay strong. You obviously care enough to work to a point where

things will get better.

>

> Hello all. I am a newbie here. My daughter, 8, had a sudden onset of

> what I believe to be OCD over the last month. She is a very outgoing

> happy child (normally) but within the last month has turned into a

> weepy frightened and scared little girl. She has fears of using knives

> to kill us, drinking gasoline, taking too much medicine and even

> hurting herself. She told me to hide the knives " just in case. " She

> confessed at having these thoughts on New Years Eve and said they had

> been happening for a few weeks. We have an appt w/a Neurologist next

> week.

>

> These thoughts that she has really scare me, and I have done lots of

> reading and research and have her in counseling right now and trying to

> help her " boss back " the ocd. I have some great books and workbooks we

> have been doing together, along w/her counselor also, but I can tell

> that my daughter feels frustrated and tired because it just keeps on

> tormenting her. She doesn't seem to have any " rituals " except that she

> feels the need to confess every little thing - even things that

> happened years ago and are insignificant. I just find it very odd that

> this seemed to happen overnight. Is that the norm? (maybe there is

> no " norm " )

>

> Does OCD usually occur over a period of a couple of weeks? I'm

> wondering if it has anything to do w/the Lyme Disease she had last

> summer. I've read online that Lyme can disguise itself as OCD. We have

> an appt w/a Lyme Disease doctor in a couple of weeks. I talked to her

> Pediatrician about it and she is adament about it NOT being related to

> Lyme... Also, I thought of PANDAs, but the doctor does not agree w/that

> either. Any info is appreciated.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi. It sounds like she is afraid of the thought, which is typical of

OCD " intrusive thoughts " . The thoughts make them fearful amd anxious,

but they would never act on them. Rather the thoughts make them very

anxious because they find the thoughts so upsetting, and as they try

to avoid the thoughts, they repeat, like a brain hiccup.

We've been through the confessing too. That was exhausting. . .For

both of us.

I was reading about Lyme Disease after you mentioned she had dealt

with it. It does say it can bring on neurological and psychiatric

problems, including OCD. When your daughter took the antibiotics for

the Lyme Disease, did the symptoms clear it up for her? Just curious.

Typically, the treatment for PANDAS is also antibiotics. But, there

is a titer test they can do with a simple blood test to check for

PANDAS.

I think I would take the opinion of the neurologist, since they are a

specialist. As a parent, I wouldn't want to overlook anything.

Unfortunately, many doctors tend to brush off PANDAS. It's

unfortunate that that happens. I have Fibromyalgia and was brushed

off by docs, until I went to a specialist (a rheumatologist). The

first thing he said to me was, " It's not in your head " . Apparently,

he'd seen many patients who'd been told that, so addressed that first.

Well, I appreciated it, but really didn't need to be told that since

I was in a lot of pain, so already knew it. It was obvious, but it's

nice when you have a doctor on your side so they will work with you

instead of against you. Anyway, the point I was trying to make is to

encourage you to continue looking for answers, until you are sure that

there isn't anything else causing her symptoms. Keep on looking until

you find a doctor that is willing to help you get some conclusive

answers.

Let us know what the neurologist says when you get in in a few weeks.

In the mean time, try to not be scared of her thoughts yourself.

(((hugs))) They are only thoughts. They are icky ones, but still

just thoughts. Remind yourself of that as much as you need to. I

know it is hard. Your baby is suffering, and it is tearing you apart.

<sigh> Have sooooo been there. ( But, if you are anxious about

them, she will pick up on that and it will feed her anxiety. Try to

explain to her that it is just the OCD making her have those thoughts,

but that you know she would never carry them out. Reassure her that

it is okay to try to ignore them. That she can treat them like junk

email, where it is screaming BIG, important news, but can be ignored

and deleted. She can try the same with her thoughts, telling the OCD

that it is just being obnoxious, rather than giving them urgent

attention. Then she can try distractions to redirect her mind. If

you can find something that she really likes and can get really

absorbed by (for us, it was our son's computer or video games), it can

help to redirect her mind. Sometimes just a change of scenery can

help, like taking a bike ride, or a walk. Just a few suggestions to

try, while waiting for your answers.

Best of luck to you. Hoping and praying you get some answers for her.

And if it turns out to be just plain old OCD, that is treatable, and

manageable. Many in here are living proof.

Hang in there.

Big Hugs,

BJ

-- In , " jenlich " wrote:

>

> Hello all. I am a newbie here. My daughter, 8, had a sudden onset of

> what I believe to be OCD over the last month. She is a very outgoing

> happy child (normally) but within the last month has turned into a

> weepy frightened and scared little girl. She has fears of using knives

> to kill us, drinking gasoline, taking too much medicine and even

> hurting herself. She told me to hide the knives " just in case. " She

> confessed at having these thoughts on New Years Eve and said they had

> been happening for a few weeks. We have an appt w/a Neurologist next

> week.

>

> These thoughts that she has really scare me, and I have done lots of

> reading and research and have her in counseling right now and trying to

> help her " boss back " the ocd. I have some great books and workbooks we

> have been doing together, along w/her counselor also, but I can tell

> that my daughter feels frustrated and tired because it just keeps on

> tormenting her. She doesn't seem to have any " rituals " except that she

> feels the need to confess every little thing - even things that

> happened years ago and are insignificant. I just find it very odd that

> this seemed to happen overnight. Is that the norm? (maybe there is

> no " norm " )

>

> Does OCD usually occur over a period of a couple of weeks? I'm

> wondering if it has anything to do w/the Lyme Disease she had last

> summer. I've read online that Lyme can disguise itself as OCD. We have

> an appt w/a Lyme Disease doctor in a couple of weeks. I talked to her

> Pediatrician about it and she is adament about it NOT being related to

> Lyme... Also, I thought of PANDAs, but the doctor does not agree w/that

> either. Any info is appreciated.

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hello all. I am a newbie here. My daughter, 8, had a sudden onset of

> what I believe to be OCD over the last month. She is a very outgoing

> happy child (normally) but within the last month has turned into a

> weepy frightened and scared little girl. She has fears of using knives

> to kill us, drinking gasoline, taking too much medicine and even

> hurting herself. She told me to hide the knives " just in case. " She

> confessed at having these thoughts on New Years Eve and said they had

> been happening for a few weeks. We have an appt w/a Neurologist next

> week.

>

> These thoughts that she has really scare me, and I have done lots of

> reading and research and have her in counseling right now and trying

to

> help her " boss back " the ocd. I have some great books and workbooks we

> have been doing together, along w/her counselor also, but I can tell

> that my daughter feels frustrated and tired because it just keeps on

> tormenting her. She doesn't seem to have any " rituals " except that she

> feels the need to confess every little thing - even things that

> happened years ago and are insignificant. I just find it very odd that

> this seemed to happen overnight. Is that the norm? (maybe there is

> no " norm " )

>

> Does OCD usually occur over a period of a couple of weeks? I'm

> wondering if it has anything to do w/the Lyme Disease she had last

> summer. I've read online that Lyme can disguise itself as OCD. We have

> an appt w/a Lyme Disease doctor in a couple of weeks. I talked to her

> Pediatrician about it and she is adament about it NOT being related to

> Lyme... Also, I thought of PANDAs, but the doctor does not agree

w/that

> either. Any info is appreciated.

>

Hi there

I know you replied to my post and we are experiencing some of the same

'stuff' with our kids. Our son is still battling the intrusive thoughts

about knifing us... mostly they are to do with me (great) and even the

odd time towards our 5 yr old. We sought quite a bit of advice from a

clinical psychologist and have not hidden our knives but have continued

to use them as normal. At times it's been hard for him at the dinner

table as he tried to cut his food with his fork but we gently remind him

(as we would normally) to use his knife. You can see it's hard but we

feel it's important for him to try to continue as normal if possible.

He's done great. However, he still is fearful of going in or near the

kitchen (because WHAT IF I am going in there to get a knife?!) As you

know our son's symptoms also started overnight and with CONFESSIONS

galore... dating back 4-5 years even. Then the intrusive thoughts

started and then we were on the roller coaster. It was literally

overnight. He also doesn't appear to have rituals although he does AVOID

places and things so that is a form of control. And he DOES seek

reassurance (it's not really ME is it? I wouldn't knife anyone would I?

I obviously don't mean it do I? What if I did? But I wouldn't....etc.)

We also mentioned to our doctor about PANDAS but he brushed it off too.

We aren't sure whether to pursue that or not. We have just learned today

that our son won't be assessed for at least another month. In the

meantime we have gotten hold of Talking back to OCD and our psychologist

friend gave us some CBT booklets to work through. We are going to use

them loosely. Already I found it helped our son immensley to realise he

COULD fight back and name the obsessive thoughts (bully obsessive

Olive!) And to realise he's not alone and it's not his fault.

It is worth pursuing the medical triggers though if you feel it's a

possibility. Get as much research as you can. I am also keeping a daily

diary of his days and symptoms. I am so sorry you are in the same

nightmare as we are. We WILL get through this. And our children will

too. HANG IN THERE.

[Guest guest]

Hi,

BJ has filled you in with all the " to do's " She has definitely been there!!

Anyway, I just wanted to add that I have OCD and I  have two kids with OCD, ages

12 and 7. My 12 yr old daughter's OCD came on rather slowly. She actually

presented first with behavioral symptoms , than we later realized it was the OCD

giving her so much anxiety. She actually is getting better with her OCD.

My son's OCD came on at the age of 4 in a very abrupt manner with nasty ,

graphic thoughts, like you described. I can tell you the exact day and time my

son's OCD came on.

PANDAS was also suspected with him and he was diagnosed with Lyme to top it all

off. The point I'm trying to get at is that no matter what the cause, he is

still left with the OCD. My son was a quiet, shy, awesome little boy, and ever

since this all started now, he is not the same.He needs constant reassurance,

and yes, it is sooo exhausting.He confesses EVERYTHING. We presently have him on

a waiting list for partial hospitalization, because he is so severe. I'm trying

to keep him out of a full hospitalization until he can get in to the program.He

has severe anxiety and behavioral issues due to the " bad thoughts " . His

psychiatrist has diagnosed him with bipolar disorder due to his behavior after

taking the SSRI'S, but  I'm not quite so sure about that. His thoughts are so

bad that naturally he is going to act out in some way.

I think you are taking a great step, taking her to a neurologist.I found that

helped with  my daughter tremendously because we were than able to understand

why she was acting the way she was.You are researching and reading! It sounds

like you are doing all you can right now. Just hang in there!

You will find an excellent source of support in this group!!!!!!

Welcome!

Hugs

Judy

________________________________

To:

Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 1:44:27 PM

Subject: Re: Lyme/Bell's Palsy/OCD

Hi. It sounds like she is afraid of the thought, which is typical of

OCD " intrusive thoughts " . The thoughts make them fearful amd anxious,

but they would never act on them. Rather the thoughts make them very

anxious because they find the thoughts so upsetting, and as they try

to avoid the thoughts, they repeat, like a brain hiccup.

We've been through the confessing too. That was exhausting. . .For

both of us.

I was reading about Lyme Disease after you mentioned she had dealt

with it. It does say it can bring on neurological and psychiatric

problems, including OCD. When your daughter took the antibiotics for

the Lyme Disease, did the symptoms clear it up for her? Just curious.

Typically, the treatment for PANDAS is also antibiotics. But, there

is a titer test they can do with a simple blood test to check for

PANDAS.

I think I would take the opinion of the neurologist, since they are a

specialist. As a parent, I wouldn't want to overlook anything.

Unfortunately, many doctors tend to brush off PANDAS. It's

unfortunate that that happens. I have Fibromyalgia and was brushed

off by docs, until I went to a specialist (a rheumatologist) . The

first thing he said to me was, " It's not in your head " . Apparently,

he'd seen many patients who'd been told that, so addressed that first.

Well, I appreciated it, but really didn't need to be told that since

I was in a lot of pain, so already knew it. It was obvious, but it's

nice when you have a doctor on your side so they will work with you

instead of against you. Anyway, the point I was trying to make is to

encourage you to continue looking for answers, until you are sure that

there isn't anything else causing her symptoms. Keep on looking until

you find a doctor that is willing to help you get some conclusive

answers.

Let us know what the neurologist says when you get in in a few weeks.

In the mean time, try to not be scared of her thoughts yourself.

(((hugs))) They are only thoughts. They are icky ones, but still

just thoughts. Remind yourself of that as much as you need to. I

know it is hard. Your baby is suffering, and it is tearing you apart.

<sigh> Have sooooo been there. ( But, if you are anxious about

them, she will pick up on that and it will feed her anxiety. Try to

explain to her that it is just the OCD making her have those thoughts,

but that you know she would never carry them out. Reassure her that

it is okay to try to ignore them. That she can treat them like junk

email, where it is screaming BIG, important news, but can be ignored

and deleted. She can try the same with her thoughts, telling the OCD

that it is just being obnoxious, rather than giving them urgent

attention. Then she can try distractions to redirect her mind. If

you can find something that she really likes and can get really

absorbed by (for us, it was our son's computer or video games), it can

help to redirect her mind. Sometimes just a change of scenery can

help, like taking a bike ride, or a walk. Just a few suggestions to

try, while waiting for your answers.

Best of luck to you. Hoping and praying you get some answers for her.

And if it turns out to be just plain old OCD, that is treatable, and

manageable. Many in here are living proof.

Hang in there.

Big Hugs,

BJ

-- In @ yahoogroups. com, " jenlich " <jenlich@... > wrote:

>

> Hello all. I am a newbie here. My daughter, 8, had a sudden onset of

> what I believe to be OCD over the last month. She is a very outgoing

> happy child (normally) but within the last month has turned into a

> weepy frightened and scared little girl. She has fears of using knives

> to kill us, drinking gasoline, taking too much medicine and even

> hurting herself. She told me to hide the knives " just in case. " She

> confessed at having these thoughts on New Years Eve and said they had

> been happening for a few weeks. We have an appt w/a Neurologist next

> week.

>

> These thoughts that she has really scare me, and I have done lots of

> reading and research and have her in counseling right now and trying to

> help her " boss back " the ocd. I have some great books and workbooks we

> have been doing together, along w/her counselor also, but I can tell

> that my daughter feels frustrated and tired because it just keeps on

> tormenting her. She doesn't seem to have any " rituals " except that she

> feels the need to confess every little thing - even things that

> happened years ago and are insignificant. I just find it very odd that

> this seemed to happen overnight. Is that the norm? (maybe there is

> no " norm " )

>

> Does OCD usually occur over a period of a couple of weeks? I'm

> wondering if it has anything to do w/the Lyme Disease she had last

> summer. I've read online that Lyme can disguise itself as OCD. We have

> an appt w/a Lyme Disease doctor in a couple of weeks. I talked to her

> Pediatrician about it and she is adament about it NOT being related to

> Lyme... Also, I thought of PANDAs, but the doctor does not agree w/that

> either. Any info is appreciated.

>

[Guest guest]

I just want to pick up on something BJ said in her post. The worst

part of our whole ordeal was the first few weeks when I mourned for

the loss of my son and our " normal " life. It felt like we'd been

plunged into madness.

Hold on tight. It will get better. If nothing else, you'll eventually

get answers and can then started working on a plan. No matter what the

diagnosis.

The most helpful thing for me to learn was that this is a physical

ailment, as much as diabetes is. It's just that you can't see it, you

can't run " labs " for it, and so some people act like you should just

be able to " make up your mind " to get rid of it. It's a physical

disease like any other.

I try not to get on my PANDAS soapbox, but if you end up pursuing

this, let me know and I can direct you to information and forums. The

titer tests may or may not help you. You can't tell anything with just

one titer test and even with elevated titers, many doctors will

dismiss it. But I am presenting a powerpoint presentation to my son's

teacher and principal and school psychologist next week which I'd be

happy to share if you ever reach that point.

Keep us posted.

Keep on looking until

> you find a doctor that is willing to help you get some conclusive

> answers.

>

>

They are only thoughts. They are icky ones, but still

> just thoughts. Remind yourself of that as much as you need to. I

> know it is hard. Your baby is suffering, and it is tearing you apart.

[Guest guest]

Hi BJ,

Yes, my son has never been diagnosed with PANDAS. It has just been suspected. I

believe, if I took him to a DAN doctor, he would be diagnosed. He has had Lyme

disease, and hiolosis. We live in Northeastern CT, where we are constantly

exposed to ticks. Each time he is on antibiotics(for whatever reason) could be

for an ear infection, he gets better. He was on antibiotics for 2 months when he

had the Lyme and had barely no OCD symptoms. Mind you, he was still on

medication for OCD, so whether it's due to the OCD meds or the antibiotics, I

don't know for sure. It actually could have been that the OCD was just dormant

at that point.

It's so hard to explain, but what I was trying to get at was that from what I

have been told, it doesn't matter if your child has  been diagnosed with PANDAS,

LYME, or OCD, you still have the symptoms. They may go away for awhile, as do

the symptoms of plain OCD(waxing and waning) but they are always there, even 40

years later.

With Lyme the OCD symptoms just flare periiodically(not due to anything

specific, like the PANDAS)

It's all a matter of handling it and dealing with it, rather you do that through

meds or therapy , or a combination of the two. As for everyone that has it

themselves as adults, or has adult children with it,or a spouse, you all realize

it does not go away. You learn to " disregard " the thoughts. I have " bad

thoughts " every single day, but I have learned to just tell myself that a

thought is only a thought. It means nothing.

Hugs

Judy

________________________________

To:

Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 2:51:16 PM

Subject: Re: Lyme/Bell's Palsy/OCD

>

************ *

The point I'm trying to get at is that no matter what the cause, he is

still left with the OCD.

************ *

Very good point, Judy!!!

I didn't know your son had dealt with Lyme Disease too, Judy. Good

grief, your little guy has been through just about everything it

seems. Poor kid. He's sure has had it rough. (

Is LD like PANDAS, Judy, in the sense that you can decrease the

intensity of OCD, at the time, with a treatment of antibiotics, but

you are still left with OCD, regardless? And will it flare

periodically when exposed to something specific, like PANDAS does when

you exposed to strep? Just curious.

BJ

> Hi,

> BJ has filled you in with all the " to do's " She has definitely been

there!!

>

> Anyway, I just wanted to add that I have OCD and I  have two kids

with OCD, ages 12 and 7. My 12 yr old daughter's OCD came on rather

slowly. She actually presented first with behavioral symptoms , than

we later realized it was the OCD giving her so much anxiety. She

actually is getting better with her OCD.

> My son's OCD came on at the age of 4 in a very abrupt manner with

nasty , graphic thoughts, like you described. I can tell you the exact

day and time my son's OCD came on.

> PANDAS was also suspected with him and he was diagnosed with Lyme to

top it all off. The point I'm trying to get at is that no matter what

the cause, he is still left with the OCD. My son was a quiet, shy,

awesome little boy, and ever since this all started now, he is not the

same.He needs constant reassurance, and yes, it is sooo exhausting.He

confesses EVERYTHING. We presently have him on a waiting list for

partial hospitalization, because he is so severe. I'm trying to keep

him out of a full hospitalization until he can get in to the

program.He has severe anxiety and behavioral issues due to the " bad

thoughts " . His psychiatrist has diagnosed him with bipolar disorder

due to his behavior after taking the SSRI'S, but  I'm not quite so

sure about that. His thoughts are so bad that naturally he is going to

act out in some way.

>

> I think you are taking a great step, taking her to a neurologist. I

found that helped with  my daughter tremendously because we were than

able to understand why she was acting the way she was.You are

researching and reading! It sounds like you are doing all you can

right now. Just hang in there!

> You will find an excellent source of support in this group!!!!!!

> Welcome!

> Hugs

> Judy

[Guest guest]

This was the case with my son also.

Hugs

Judy

________________________________

To:

Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 2:55:19 PM

Subject: Re: Lyme/Bell's Palsy/OCD

************

You can't tell anything with just

one titer test and even with elevated titers, many doctors will

dismiss it.

************

That's all they did with our son (one test). Then it was done years

after his OCD actually elevated out of control. He had strep that

wouldn't improve with multiple antibiotics, for months, when he was

young. So, I always wondered about it.

Can you personally send me any info or links you have, . I would

love to look them over, just to appease my curiosity about it all.

Thanks,

BJ

>

> I just want to pick up on something BJ said in her post. The worst

> part of our whole ordeal was the first few weeks when I mourned for

> the loss of my son and our " normal " life. It felt like we'd been

> plunged into madness.

>

> Hold on tight. It will get better. If nothing else, you'll eventually

> get answers and can then started working on a plan. No matter what the

> diagnosis.

>

> The most helpful thing for me to learn was that this is a physical

> ailment, as much as diabetes is. It's just that you can't see it, you

> can't run " labs " for it, and so some people act like you should just

> be able to " make up your mind " to get rid of it. It's a physical

> disease like any other.

>

> I try not to get on my PANDAS soapbox, but if you end up pursuing

> this, let me know and I can direct you to information and forums. The

> titer tests may or may not help you. You can't tell anything with just

> one titer test and even with elevated titers, many doctors will

> dismiss it. But I am presenting a powerpoint presentation to my son's

> teacher and principal and school psychologist next week which I'd be

> happy to share if you ever reach that point.

>

> Keep us posted.

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Keep on looking until

> > you find a doctor that is willing to help you get some conclusive

> > answers.

> >

> >

> They are only thoughts. They are icky ones, but still

> > just thoughts. Remind yourself of that as much as you need to. I

> > know it is hard. Your baby is suffering, and it is tearing you apart.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, Judy.

What is hiolosis?

That is what the psychiatrist told us too. . . The OCD would always be

there.

Hugs,

BJ

> >

>

> ************ *

>

> The point I'm trying to get at is that no matter what the cause, he is

> still left with the OCD.

>

> ************ *

>

> Very good point, Judy!!!

>

> I didn't know your son had dealt with Lyme Disease too, Judy. Good

> grief, your little guy has been through just about everything it

> seems. Poor kid. He's sure has had it rough. (

>

> Is LD like PANDAS, Judy, in the sense that you can decrease the

> intensity of OCD, at the time, with a treatment of antibiotics, but

> you are still left with OCD, regardless? And will it flare

> periodically when exposed to something specific, like PANDAS does when

> you exposed to strep? Just curious.

>

> BJ

>

> > Hi,

> > BJ has filled you in with all the " to do's " She has definitely been

> there!!

> >

> > Anyway, I just wanted to add that I have OCD and I  have two kids

> with OCD, ages 12 and 7. My 12 yr old daughter's OCD came on rather

> slowly. She actually presented first with behavioral symptoms , than

> we later realized it was the OCD giving her so much anxiety. She

> actually is getting better with her OCD.

> > My son's OCD came on at the age of 4 in a very abrupt manner with

> nasty , graphic thoughts, like you described. I can tell you the exact

> day and time my son's OCD came on.

> > PANDAS was also suspected with him and he was diagnosed with Lyme to

> top it all off. The point I'm trying to get at is that no matter what

> the cause, he is still left with the OCD. My son was a quiet, shy,

> awesome little boy, and ever since this all started now, he is not the

> same.He needs constant reassurance, and yes, it is sooo exhausting.He

> confesses EVERYTHING. We presently have him on a waiting list for

> partial hospitalization, because he is so severe. I'm trying to keep

> him out of a full hospitalization until he can get in to the

> program.He has severe anxiety and behavioral issues due to the " bad

> thoughts " . His psychiatrist has diagnosed him with bipolar disorder

> due to his behavior after taking the SSRI'S, but  I'm not quite so

> sure about that. His thoughts are so bad that naturally he is going to

> act out in some way.

> >

> > I think you are taking a great step, taking her to a neurologist. I

> found that helped with  my daughter tremendously because we were than

> able to understand why she was acting the way she was.You are

> researching and reading! It sounds like you are doing all you can

> right now. Just hang in there!

> > You will find an excellent source of support in this group!!!!!!

> > Welcome!

> > Hugs

> > Judy

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you all for your help w/this. We are meeting w/a neurologist on

Wednesday. I'm hoping that he will have some answers... I know

psychiatrists usually perscribe the meds, but Do the neurologists also?

One more question - what can we expect at this appt w/the neurologists?

Do they set up MRIs, Catscans, etc, run blood tests, or do they just

sit and ask questions?

Thanks again.