single,young males, with PSSD...

[Guest guest]

to all those single,young males with PSSD, i am curious as to how you

guys go about lving with this. do you avoid relationships completely?

if not, how do you approach going about having a sexual relationship?

at what point do you open up to your potential partner? how do you go

about telling your partner of your disfunction? have you opened up to

any friends about this? how do you go about telling them?

personally, i am in a sexual relationship with a girl and i know she

realizes there is a problem, but i have not told her about the PSSD.

We have had sex twice and both times, I basically had to stimulate

myself to get an erection....and frankly the sex really isn't

enjoyable to me. it feels just like i could be putting my finger

inside her and it would feel the same. i have not been able to

climax while having sex...i have used viagra both times...but i HATE

the effects of having a flushed face and the headaches afterwards. i

can get semi aroused without the viagra, but its not very long, and

definitely not strong enough to have sex.

also, i am curious as to what you guys use to help with sex. viagra,

herbs? has anyone experimented with marijuana or cocaine before

having sex? i have only tried viagra, which helps to get an erection,

but i still feel numb with sex. i can only ejaculate with

masturbation.

thanks for your responses

[Guest guest]

I have had to avoid relationships completely because of PSSD. I

still " hang out " with girls and because of the " chemical labotomy "

effect, I don't feel any anxiety or any emotion around them. Girls

tend to like how " calm and peaceful " I am and show interest.

However, I have no interest in them because the psychiatric drugs

destroyed my brain. If I ever were in a relationship (doesn't look

like it will happen ever at this point, since I've had PSSD for

almost 10 years), I don't know how I would " break the news " to the

girl. I think that most girls would freak out knowing that I was on

some sort of psychatric drug. There is huge stigma that goes along

with the psychiatric labels that shrinks give. Plus, the bottom line

is that girls do not want unhealthy male partners. Our purpose in

life is to survive and reproduce and if you have PSSD you cannot

fulfill your purpose in life. What girl would really want to have an

unhealthy male with PSSD? Think about it this way...what is more

attractive to a male, a girl like Alba or someone like Rosie

O'Donnell? Healthy is attractive, unhealthy is not...

>

> to all those single,young males with PSSD, i am curious as to how

you

> guys go about lving with this. do you avoid relationships

completely?

> if not, how do you approach going about having a sexual

relationship?

> at what point do you open up to your potential partner? how do you

go

> about telling your partner of your disfunction? have you opened up

to

> any friends about this? how do you go about telling them?

>

> personally, i am in a sexual relationship with a girl and i know

she

> realizes there is a problem, but i have not told her about the

PSSD.

> We have had sex twice and both times, I basically had to stimulate

> myself to get an erection....and frankly the sex really isn't

> enjoyable to me. it feels just like i could be putting my finger

> inside her and it would feel the same. i have not been able to

> climax while having sex...i have used viagra both times...but i

HATE

> the effects of having a flushed face and the headaches afterwards.

i

> can get semi aroused without the viagra, but its not very long, and

> definitely not strong enough to have sex.

>

> also, i am curious as to what you guys use to help with sex.

viagra,

> herbs? has anyone experimented with marijuana or cocaine before

> having sex? i have only tried viagra, which helps to get an

erection,

> but i still feel numb with sex. i can only ejaculate with

> masturbation.

>

> thanks for your responses

>

[Guest guest]

I'm a little older but have similar symptoms to what " pura_vida_07 " is

relating to. I have a relationship with a lady a little older than I am,

and the only way I can have sex with her is through the use of Viagara.

Without it, I have no erections to speak of with her, and what few I

have around the house alone are inadequate and do not last long enough

for penetration. Even with the use of Viagara, my orgasms are weak and

my penis does not always have full sensation. The other night I had an

orgasm although I didn't really feel it, and this was through oral

stimulation. Only through her reaction did I know for sure this had

occurred.

Fortunately she knows what I am going through with the PSSD, and I have

given her the link to our website. She is very supportive. I have had a

series of long talks with her, and she has come to understand that when

I have problems it isn't because she isn't capable of arousing me, at

least for the most part. I have done everything I can on my own to

reverse this affliction, including working out 4-5 days per

week(including powerwalking 3 miles per session) and I have gone

overboard to keep the herbal remedy manufacturers in business...nothing

has proven to be a dramatic breakthough.

I will tell you this, my Urologist is a younger gentleman, probably in

his early 30's, and he actually admitted to me recently that he had

heard of PSSD, and acknowledged it's existance. He related to me that as

far as he knew, there was nothing to reverse it except time. And yes,

this is rehash to a lot of the readers that have been here for a while,

but I felt it meaningful in the thread for our newer members.

zant808 wrote:

> I have had to avoid relationships completely because of PSSD. I

> still " hang out " with girls and because of the " chemical labotomy "

> effect, I don't feel any anxiety or any emotion around them. Girls

> tend to like how " calm and peaceful " I am and show interest.

> However, I have no interest in them because the psychiatric drugs

> destroyed my brain. If I ever were in a relationship (doesn't look

> like it will happen ever at this point, since I've had PSSD for

> almost 10 years), I don't know how I would " break the news " to the

> girl. I think that most girls would freak out knowing that I was on

> some sort of psychatric drug. There is huge stigma that goes along

> with the psychiatric labels that shrinks give. Plus, the bottom line

> is that girls do not want unhealthy male partners. Our purpose in

> life is to survive and reproduce and if you have PSSD you cannot

> fulfill your purpose in life. What girl would really want to have an

> unhealthy male with PSSD? Think about it this way...what is more

> attractive to a male, a girl like Alba or someone like Rosie

> O'Donnell? Healthy is attractive, unhealthy is not...

>

>

> >

> > to all those single,young males with PSSD, i am curious as to how

> you

> > guys go about lving with this. do you avoid relationships

> completely?

> > if not, how do you approach going about having a sexual

> relationship?

> > at what point do you open up to your potential partner? how do you

> go

> > about telling your partner of your disfunction? have you opened up

> to

> > any friends about this? how do you go about telling them?

> >

> > personally, i am in a sexual relationship with a girl and i know

> she

> > realizes there is a problem, but i have not told her about the

> PSSD.

> > We have had sex twice and both times, I basically had to stimulate

> > myself to get an erection....and frankly the sex really isn't

> > enjoyable to me. it feels just like i could be putting my finger

> > inside her and it would feel the same. i have not been able to

> > climax while having sex...i have used viagra both times...but i

> HATE

> > the effects of having a flushed face and the headaches afterwards.

> i

> > can get semi aroused without the viagra, but its not very long, and

> > definitely not strong enough to have sex.

> >

> > also, i am curious as to what you guys use to help with sex.

> viagra,

> > herbs? has anyone experimented with marijuana or cocaine before

> > having sex? i have only tried viagra, which helps to get an

> erection,

> > but i still feel numb with sex. i can only ejaculate with

> > masturbation.

> >

> > thanks for your responses

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

This is mainly a response to zant808.

I know what you mean about still hanging out with girls but not being able to

move into a

relationship, I experience in my own life. I like you zant, you've got a lot of

good things to

say and you seem like a good human being. But I must confess, I don't agree

with some of

what you said in this post. I personally think that on some level you are

definately

interested in girls and possibly a relationship and I want to believe that is

still possible for

you, and for myself, and for people suffering w/ PSSD in general. You post on

this site

alot, PSSD means so much to you, even in a very negative sense, and I think it

means so

much to you because you are still interesed in girls and PSSD is blocking and

has been

blocking you from following that interst and I can tell you apsolutely hate

that, so do I.

You describe how girls like how " calm and peaceful " you are and i believe that

thats

becuase calm and peaceful energy is a very attractive quality, and you notice

so keenly

their interest in you because on some level you are interested in them, even if

your

conscious mind tells you that you are not interested. I think that it may be

that PSSD/

brain problems are so painful for you that its better to think that you have no

interst in

girls or relationships then it is to think that you are still intersted but are

blocked because

of terrible physical limitations. Please check out my other response to this

message about

how one might be able to break the news to someone about PSSD.

zant808 wrote " I think that most girls would freak out knowing that I was on

> some sort of psychatric drug. There is huge stigma that goes along

> with the psychiatric labels. " Its true, most girls might freak out if you

told them about

your PSSD, because they would probably be thinking not just about you but about

themselves, " How will this affect my happiness? " However there are some girls

out there

who aren't as intersted in sex and don't think of sex w/ the same kind of

importance as

men ussually do. There are also girls who have mental health issues themselves

and have

been on psychiatric medications, have seen psychiatrists, have dealt with

similar issues

that the people of this group have dealt with, so those kinds of girls I believe

would be

sensitve to your issues and wouldn't cast a dark shadow of judgement onto you

for having

mental health issues. So while some people will stigmatize you, others may not,

its the

ones who will not judge you so harshly you might want to risk opening up to.

" Plus, the bottom line is that girls do not want unhealthy male partners. Our

purpose in

life is to survive and reproduce and if you have PSSD you cannot fulfill your

purpose in

life. " It is true that most people want there partners to be healthy, but

sexual health is not

the only kind of health. There is also general health which we have some

control over, we

can exercise, sleep right, get nutrition and girls take that kind of health into

account as

well. Are you healthy in other aspects aside from sexual health? Women want

other

things besides sex, like intelligence, economic capacity, empathy or peaceful

energy. You

may be able to find someone who has had health issues of their own, can live

with you

having PSSD and also likes you for your intelligence and even your passionate

disaproval

of big pharma and its injustices twards living beings, beings that you care

about w/o ever

having known them. As for life's purpose being to survive and reproduce, i

disagree

somewhat, I think its the goal of a species to propagate the species and pass on

the genes

yes. But if lifes purpose was simply to reproduce then what reason would old

people want

to go on living after they lost ther sexual function, and in other cultures

besides the west,

old people aren't put straught into homes, they stay w/ the family often doing

things they

enjoy like eating, playing music, talking, their lives go on. And what about

people w/

spinal chord injuries who can't even feel their body at all, a close friend of

our family has

this injury but other things can arise that give his life meaning, like family

and friends

ect...also many girls do not want to have babies and reproduce and with

population

increase its probably better that humans slow down their rate of reproduction.

I don't mean to be oppositional, I have no stake in disproving your opinions, i

just think

that trying to be balanced about having PSSD is very important to our ability to

cope with

the extreme difficulty of the condition itself. Also, STDs are another huge

thing that

people have to deal with, a freind of mine just got a STD and is having to face

talking to

his new girlfriend about it and he is totally devastated. So there are other

kinds of sexual

problems that people have to deal w/ on a regular basis.

I hope this post had some useful information in it for anyone reading. Zant,

your a great

guy and again i hope you don't feel I'm being overly oppositional, I'm really

just using your

comments to debate sinilar kinds of questions i ask myself in my own mind.

To all my best.

Devinn321

> >

> > to all those single,young males with PSSD, i am curious as to how

> you

> > guys go about lving with this. do you avoid relationships

> completely?

> > if not, how do you approach going about having a sexual

> relationship?

> > at what point do you open up to your potential partner? how do you

> go

> > about telling your partner of your disfunction? have you opened up

> to

> > any friends about this? how do you go about telling them?

> >

> > personally, i am in a sexual relationship with a girl and i know

> she

> > realizes there is a problem, but i have not told her about the

> PSSD.

> > We have had sex twice and both times, I basically had to stimulate

> > myself to get an erection....and frankly the sex really isn't

> > enjoyable to me. it feels just like i could be putting my finger

> > inside her and it would feel the same. i have not been able to

> > climax while having sex...i have used viagra both times...but i

> HATE

> > the effects of having a flushed face and the headaches afterwards.

> i

> > can get semi aroused without the viagra, but its not very long, and

> > definitely not strong enough to have sex.

> >

> > also, i am curious as to what you guys use to help with sex.

> viagra,

> > herbs? has anyone experimented with marijuana or cocaine before

> > having sex? i have only tried viagra, which helps to get an

> erection,

> > but i still feel numb with sex. i can only ejaculate with

> > masturbation.

> >

> > thanks for your responses

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Devinn321 -

Those were 2 great posts...I agree totally with your points. Life is

about balance, and there are very few people out there that have no

issues whatsoever. Despite my problems, I believe I have many other

great qualities that are attractive to women. Sure, some might head

for the hills when they find out I have sexual problems, but they

wouldn't be right for me anyway.

I also think using negative terms like " chemical lobotomy " isn't

helpful. Our condition isn't even close to as severe as a lobotomy.

A lobotomy will leave you debilitated. We are not debilitated - most

of us here are very intelligent, have families/friends, good jobs,

and can function OK in society.

Luther

> > >

> > > to all those single,young males with PSSD, i am curious as to

how

> > you

> > > guys go about lving with this. do you avoid relationships

> > completely?

> > > if not, how do you approach going about having a sexual

> > relationship?

> > > at what point do you open up to your potential partner? how do

you

> > go

> > > about telling your partner of your disfunction? have you

opened up

> > to

> > > any friends about this? how do you go about telling them?

> > >

> > > personally, i am in a sexual relationship with a girl and i

know

> > she

> > > realizes there is a problem, but i have not told her about the

> > PSSD.

> > > We have had sex twice and both times, I basically had to

stimulate

> > > myself to get an erection....and frankly the sex really isn't

> > > enjoyable to me. it feels just like i could be putting my

finger

> > > inside her and it would feel the same. i have not been able

to

> > > climax while having sex...i have used viagra both times...but

i

> > HATE

> > > the effects of having a flushed face and the headaches

afterwards.

> > i

> > > can get semi aroused without the viagra, but its not very

long, and

> > > definitely not strong enough to have sex.

> > >

> > > also, i am curious as to what you guys use to help with sex.

> > viagra,

> > > herbs? has anyone experimented with marijuana or cocaine

before

> > > having sex? i have only tried viagra, which helps to get an

> > erection,

> > > but i still feel numb with sex. i can only ejaculate with

> > > masturbation.

> > >

> > > thanks for your responses

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

>Thanks for the response luther. I'm glad you liked my posts. While i agree

with you on

most of what you said I do disaree w/ a few things. I think PSSD and other

problems that

can arise from having a bad experience w/ meds can be very debilitating, which

means to

hinder, delay or weaken. I think we all agree that PSSD debilitates normal

sexual

functioning, in that we aren't as able experience the magic of sexuality and be

in a good

sexual relationship and that i believe is a horrible tragedy. I believe that

while we retain

parts of who we are and can continue to function and be intelligent and so on,

other parts

of us like our sexuality or our emotional intelligence gets hindered greatly,

often to a point

where its extremely difficult to function in those areas. Having PSSD

debilitates us heavily

in the sexual arena and that severely affects lives, sometimes my PSSD gets

really hellish

and unbareable and I think zant feels that unbearable quality of PSSD very often

and thats

what he expresses in his posts. OUTRAGE is a normal response to PSSD, but

outrage

ussually hinders us from thinking more clearly about a subject. I feel outrage

all the time,

and since i " crashed " twice from using meds, my emotional life can feel

debilitated at

times as well and life gets really hard. Luckily I'm not always in those " bad

places " and

there are some good times in life.

I think chemical lobotomy is a harsh term as well, but I think it was more

metaphorical in

how it was used. Also a chemical lobotomy is more dealing with chemicals being

removed

from the body then frontal lobes. Still its a stong term, words have power in

the psyche,

we nedd to dialouge w/ these places in ourselves that feel so messed up. I say

some

strong stuff in my own head about not liking god for all the problems I've been

had to go

through and for all the problems I see in the world. Its a struggle.

Thanks alot for responding luther. i really appriciate it.

zant your a good guy man, sorry about all this shit, life is pretty damn cruel

someties, I

hope that calm peaceful side to you helps you.

Devinn321

>

> Devinn321 -

>

> Those were 2 great posts...I agree totally with your points. Life is

> about balance, and there are very few people out there that have no

> issues whatsoever. Despite my problems, I believe I have many other

> great qualities that are attractive to women. Sure, some might head

> for the hills when they find out I have sexual problems, but they

> wouldn't be right for me anyway.

>

> I also think using negative terms like " chemical lobotomy " isn't

> helpful. Our condition isn't even close to as severe as a lobotomy.

> A lobotomy will leave you debilitated. We are not debilitated - most

> of us here are very intelligent, have families/friends, good jobs,

> and can function OK in society.

>

>

> Luther

>

>

> > > >

> > > > to all those single,young males with PSSD, i am curious as to

> how

> > > you

> > > > guys go about lving with this. do you avoid relationships

> > > completely?

> > > > if not, how do you approach going about having a sexual

> > > relationship?

> > > > at what point do you open up to your potential partner? how do

> you

> > > go

> > > > about telling your partner of your disfunction? have you

> opened up

> > > to

> > > > any friends about this? how do you go about telling them?

> > > >

> > > > personally, i am in a sexual relationship with a girl and i

> know

> > > she

> > > > realizes there is a problem, but i have not told her about the

> > > PSSD.

> > > > We have had sex twice and both times, I basically had to

> stimulate

> > > > myself to get an erection....and frankly the sex really isn't

> > > > enjoyable to me. it feels just like i could be putting my

> finger

> > > > inside her and it would feel the same. i have not been able

> to

> > > > climax while having sex...i have used viagra both times...but

> i

> > > HATE

> > > > the effects of having a flushed face and the headaches

> afterwards.

> > > i

> > > > can get semi aroused without the viagra, but its not very

> long, and

> > > > definitely not strong enough to have sex.

> > > >

> > > > also, i am curious as to what you guys use to help with sex.

> > > viagra,

> > > > herbs? has anyone experimented with marijuana or cocaine

> before

> > > > having sex? i have only tried viagra, which helps to get an

> > > erection,

> > > > but i still feel numb with sex. i can only ejaculate with

> > > > masturbation.

> > > >

> > > > thanks for your responses

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I really can't imagine getting into a relationship at the moment. When

the time for sex came, it would be something like " Oh by the way,

condoms are out of the question because I can barely feel my junk as it

is. Looks like birth control pills and STD exams for us "

To me, it would seem more like a scientific experiment than anything

fun. Right now I'm concentrating my time on finding out as much as

possible about this, so that hopefully the time spent will in the long

run bring things back to normal.

When I was back on effexor in the fall, I wasn't depressed/anxious, in

fact I was overall quite happy despite my sexual problems. I thought

about it off and on, but was having fun not being depressed in seven

months. Being depressed is really what drives us to an obsession for

looking for a cure, and makes us feel as though our life is over until

then. Sadly, I know that this won't cure our depression, meaning that we

are actually looking for the answer for two different things.

Shay

devinn321 wrote:

>

>

> >Thanks for the response luther. I'm glad you liked my posts. While i

> agree with you on

> most of what you said I do disaree w/ a few things. I think PSSD and

> other problems that

> can arise from having a bad experience w/ meds can be very

> debilitating, which means to

> hinder, delay or weaken. I think we all agree that PSSD debilitates

> normal sexual

> functioning, in that we aren't as able experience the magic of

> sexuality and be in a good

> sexual relationship and that i believe is a horrible tragedy. I

> believe that while we retain

> parts of who we are and can continue to function and be intelligent

> and so on, other parts

> of us like our sexuality or our emotional intelligence gets hindered

> greatly, often to a point

> where its extremely difficult to function in those areas. Having PSSD

> debilitates us heavily

> in the sexual arena and that severely affects lives, sometimes my PSSD

> gets really hellish

> and unbareable and I think zant feels that unbearable quality of PSSD

> very often and thats

> what he expresses in his posts. OUTRAGE is a normal response to PSSD,

> but outrage

> ussually hinders us from thinking more clearly about a subject. I feel

> outrage all the time,

> and since i " crashed " twice from using meds, my emotional life can

> feel debilitated at

> times as well and life gets really hard. Luckily I'm not always in

> those " bad places " and

> there are some good times in life.

> I think chemical lobotomy is a harsh term as well, but I think it was

> more metaphorical in

> how it was used. Also a chemical lobotomy is more dealing with

> chemicals being removed

> from the body then frontal lobes. Still its a stong term, words have

> power in the psyche,

> we nedd to dialouge w/ these places in ourselves that feel so messed

> up. I say some

> strong stuff in my own head about not liking god for all the problems

> I've been had to go

> through and for all the problems I see in the world. Its a struggle.

> Thanks alot for responding luther. i really appriciate it.

> zant your a good guy man, sorry about all this shit, life is pretty

> damn cruel someties, I

> hope that calm peaceful side to you helps you.

> Devinn321

> >

> > Devinn321 -

> >

> > Those were 2 great posts...I agree totally with your points. Life is

> > about balance, and there are very few people out there that have no

> > issues whatsoever. Despite my problems, I believe I have many other

> > great qualities that are attractive to women. Sure, some might head

> > for the hills when they find out I have sexual problems, but they

> > wouldn't be right for me anyway.

> >

> > I also think using negative terms like " chemical lobotomy " isn't

> > helpful. Our condition isn't even close to as severe as a lobotomy.

> > A lobotomy will leave you debilitated. We are not debilitated - most

> > of us here are very intelligent, have families/friends, good jobs,

> > and can function OK in society.

> >

> >

> > Luther

> >

> >

> > > > >

> > > > > to all those single,young males with PSSD, i am curious as to

> > how

> > > > you

> > > > > guys go about lving with this. do you avoid relationships

> > > > completely?

> > > > > if not, how do you approach going about having a sexual

> > > > relationship?

> > > > > at what point do you open up to your potential partner? how do

> > you

> > > > go

> > > > > about telling your partner of your disfunction? have you

> > opened up

> > > > to

> > > > > any friends about this? how do you go about telling them?

> > > > >

> > > > > personally, i am in a sexual relationship with a girl and i

> > know

> > > > she

> > > > > realizes there is a problem, but i have not told her about the

> > > > PSSD.

> > > > > We have had sex twice and both times, I basically had to

> > stimulate

> > > > > myself to get an erection....and frankly the sex really isn't

> > > > > enjoyable to me. it feels just like i could be putting my

> > finger

> > > > > inside her and it would feel the same. i have not been able

> > to

> > > > > climax while having sex...i have used viagra both times...but

> > i

> > > > HATE

> > > > > the effects of having a flushed face and the headaches

> > afterwards.

> > > > i

> > > > > can get semi aroused without the viagra, but its not very

> > long, and

> > > > > definitely not strong enough to have sex.

> > > > >

> > > > > also, i am curious as to what you guys use to help with sex.

> > > > viagra,

> > > > > herbs? has anyone experimented with marijuana or cocaine

> > before

> > > > > having sex? i have only tried viagra, which helps to get an

> > > > erection,

> > > > > but i still feel numb with sex. i can only ejaculate with

> > > > > masturbation.

> > > > >

> > > > > thanks for your responses

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

I can totally relate to your story. I was 17 when I was put on

Prozac for my " chemical imbalance " (still no way to objectively

measure any chemical imbalance today). Life used to have a lot more

meaning, but after taking the meds, I just feel disconnected. You're

definitely not alone though...there are potentially hundreds of

thousands of people who have this condition.

Some hope though...biologic is a member who is very young and has

recovered successfully. Also, there are two new medications called

bremelanotide and melanotan that are supposed to increase labido and

will be out by 2009. I think both companies are in phase III trials

for these products. I don't know if it will be a " cure " , but

melanocortin therapeutics are a mega leap forward for sexual

dysfunction compared to the PDE-5 inhibitor meds like Viagra and

Cialis.

>

> I was just a teenager when i was put on antidepressants. I was 17

> years old and and during the fall i got really depressed (seasonal

> depression is pretty common among scandinavians). I was put on the

> antidepressant Cipramil (Celexa in the US) and after that i became

> more and more isolated.

> Before the drugs i used to have a normal social life. I went

to

> parties, got drunk, was interested in girls and had hobbies. But

when

> i started the drugs all those things became less and less

interesting.

> All i really cared about during those years was to be able to listen

> to music and walk in circles in my room. All my friends went on to

> have a normal social life, had sex, got into relationships and it

> seems to me that many of them are in serious life commitment

> relationships at this time. I on the other hand did nothing during

> those years. I never had a girlfriend, never got to have sex and i

> will from the looks of it never marry and never have kids.

> Maybe it is easier for me to live with PSSD because in a sense i

don’t

> fully know what i am missing. But i still feel that i have been

> screwed out of life. I feel that my life has been robbed of its

> purpose. For me it is not just the libido that has gone away. For me

> it is something much more than that. I used to have a great

> imagination and now i can’t think of anything that is remotely

> creative. I used to like going out for a drink or two and having

fun,

> but now alcahol has no effect on me and hanging out with people is

not

> as interesting as it once was. I can find no purpose in life and i

> think about suicide a lot. I feel like such a alien, so different

from

> everyone else. I have no ambitions to do anything.

> It is very strange though i can still remember the effect that

> beautiful girls used to have on me when i was a teenager. There was

> something magical about them. I used to be obsessed with certain

girls

> in my school and think about them all the time. I would never have

> guessed that these feelings could suddenly vanish and later these

> girls would mean nothing to me.

> I have only told one person that i have PSSD and it was obviously

very

> uncomfortable for her. It was very strange that the more i talked

> about it and tried to tell her about how dangerous these drugs are

> (connections to all kinds of violence, school shootings, suicide and

> permanent effects) she got all on the defensive about how these

drugs

> are helping people and how good it is that mental illness is not

> something to be ashamed of. It is like any criticism on Mental

Health

> Care is like some kind of heresy and people will defend any

horrible

> drug out there without giving it any thought.

> Personally i don’t use viagra or any herbs, my libido isn’t

completely

> gone but it is definetly not enough to start a relationship with, i

> also experience no pleasure from masturbation it just bores me so i

> don’t think about sex that often.

>

> PS. I would like to thank the people that are running this message

> board. I have been clean for 3 years and i never quite knew what was

> wrong with me. Reading posts on this messageboard and other

> information on the internet put everything in perspective. Hopefully

> the discussion on the internet will spread out and the people

> responsible for these drugs will be brought to justice.

>

[Guest guest]

anonymous you largely convey what I am going through with all of this.

Before drugs i had so much emotion, passion and recieved much

enjoyment from social interaction. After paxil, and several other

ssri's that passion ,ability to connect with other people, and my

sheer emotional bond with lifes enjoyments became permanently

hindered. Before drugs I use to always talk on the phone with friends,

exercise, play basketball; now when I get home all I want to do is

sleep. When I try and talk to friends, it's not the same, I often

forget things mid sentence ruining the fluency of the conversation -

often after about 10 minutes i won't know how to steer or respond in

regards to the conversation, I am just so permanently disconnected.

I miss joking around with people, I miss the emotional reward I would

get from certain activities; looking at the past just makes me sad. It

is SO obvious that I went immediately down-hill after antidepresants,

i never had any of these problems before.. no one i know would

consider drugs a possibility to my problems though.

[Guest guest]

I'm the same as you guys. I was put on zoloft right before I turned 17

because I was shy and lonely at school, and would always act irritable

and isolated around my family. My mom started me on it since she was on

it, telling me it would make me feel better. Same chemical imbalance

story, claiming that I was destined to feel down because it ran in the

family. She seems to be bipolar, along with anxiety and depression, and

I can understand since she was raised in a very rough family. My

grandmother lived her remaining years in a mental hospital. But I always

disagreed about the inheriting part, because she was so vague. I was

never depressed to begin with, I was just feeling emotions that everyone

feels.

It's like when people claim kids are fat because it's in the genes. I

say kids are fat because their fat parents feed them the same food that

they eat, I don't see why this is so hard to figure out. My grandmother

went mental due to an abusive husband, which led to a distraught family

and my mother having emotional problems, which led to her raising me in

a specific way that caused me to be shy and uptight. Then she blames our

genes for the way I turned out, sticks me on antidepressants, and 7

years later I try and tell her the truth and she doesn't listen.

Anyways, about the lack of emotions. My question is what is causing

this, depression or the lack of pills? Either way, the pills are

responsible, but lack of motivation, desire, happiness, is the very

definition of depression. Have the pills really taken away our emotions,

or have they caused us to become depressed due to withdrawal? I bring

this up because when I got back on the effexor in September, my joy for

life and personality did return enough for me and everyone around me to

notice. I was excited to socialize, joke around, watch movies and play

games, work hard, and focused enough to get paid to do some programming

work. I'd say the only downside to getting back on was the obvious side

effects, because I felt alive again. I'm still trying to remember any

major emotional changes that the pills had on me while taking them, but

I do remember having fairly balanced emotions while taking them.

What I am getting at has to do with how biologic1981 said he forced

himself through this state of mind, and discovered that it was just a

state of mind that we can get through. We feel emotionless, and

basically defeated. However, I manage to kick the feeling at times

through tons of journaling of how I feel, exercise, etc. I am, for brief

periods of time, able to feel emotionally alive again. So maybe there is

a way to force our way out of this fog.

Shay

mlynch1500 wrote:

>

> anonymous you largely convey what I am going through with all of this.

> Before drugs i had so much emotion, passion and recieved much

> enjoyment from social interaction. After paxil, and several other

> ssri's that passion ,ability to connect with other people, and my

> sheer emotional bond with lifes enjoyments became permanently

> hindered. Before drugs I use to always talk on the phone with friends,

> exercise, play basketball; now when I get home all I want to do is

> sleep. When I try and talk to friends, it's not the same, I often

> forget things mid sentence ruining the fluency of the conversation -

> often after about 10 minutes i won't know how to steer or respond in

> regards to the conversation, I am just so permanently disconnected.

>

> I miss joking around with people, I miss the emotional reward I would

> get from certain activities; looking at the past just makes me sad. It

> is SO obvious that I went immediately down-hill after antidepresants,

> i never had any of these problems before.. no one i know would

> consider drugs a possibility to my problems though.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Anyone with useful information on these drugs? Most of us are not

being helped by viagra/cialis.