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Correct me if im wrong but one of the patterns " I think " I see in

most stories is that most SSRI users were really sexual before

starting on SSRI. Otherwise how would anyone who wasnt sexual before

know they have lost thier high libido. I would say I had a somewhat

social phobia but only when Im around too many people, I guess it

was due to sensory overload. Now I guess my senses are not as

sensitive, I dont feel that phobia as much. Prozac and Zoloft were

first prescription drugs that I have taken in long term for any

problem. The only drug that might have affected my body would be

extacy. One thing I want to discuss is does having a lot of

serotonin really kill libido or is it SSRI's inhibiting action on

other thing might be the cause ? correct me if im wrong again but

XTC raises serotonin right ? but it doesnt kill libido like SSRI

does. It makes sensation a lot better like x 10 than normal.

>

> Has this group ever systematically explore the possibility that

our problems could be the

> result of SSRIs interacting with another variable such as another

class of medication? I'm

> not overly hopefully that we will find a pattern here, but maybe

it is worth a try. Here are

> some variables regarding my case. Maybe we all have one in common?

>

> -I was also on Accutane for acne during part of my treatment. This

actually made my penis

> very dry.

> -I abruptly started and stopped SSRI therapy many times. I took

several different types but

> only Paxil for an extended period of time.

> -I started taking SSRIs during college, so a fair bit of drinking

was involved. Probably not

> the smartest thing I have done.

> -I took SSRIs on and off (mostly on) for about 4 years.

> -I am probably bipolar II or cyclothymic. The SSRIs I tried tended

to make me very

> depressed but induced extremely pleasurable, but short, episodes

of hypomania about

> once every 2 weeks. I continues with the treatment because it

lessened my extremely bad

> GAD (generalized anxiety disorder) and social phobia (and the

highs were amazing too)

> -I have a pinched nerve in my back. (before I found out about PSSD

it was a leading theory

> for my numbness down there)

> -Unfortunately I masturbated a lot when I was on SSRIs. I was

EXTREMELY sexual before I

> started taking them and it had become a habit, especially when

depressed. Since the SSRIs

> made me last longer and reduced my sensation when I was on them

the masturbation was

> a bit...aggressive. Maybe this is relevant...

> -I am extremely sensitive to caffeine.

>

> It's a long shot but worth a try.

>

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One thing I want to discuss is does having a

> lot of

> serotonin really kill libido

Hi - I agree, clearly not in itself. A very good point

you make. I think XTC floods you with serotonin but

with dopamine as well. But you don't know what the

knock-on effects may be.

I guess it

> was due to sensory overload.

or the processing of that information differently?

Now I guess my senses

> are not as

> sensitive,

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I think if PSSD was due to drug interactions it would have been

noticed by now but a lot of the time people are trying different ssri`s

which probably all have a similar effect.

Ive never taken any other drug than prozac so i know 100 % it doesnt

apply to me.Again i didnt taper off it either.One thing that really

annoys me is when people pretend to their

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ZS4L:

You might be on something here. Many people take SSRI without PSSD. I know friend who take Zoloft regularly, and have very high sex drive. They mention this often in our conversation. XTC does interfere with sexual performance. Many people claim the sex part is not good, perhaps no erection, but the sensual part of touching and kissing is extremely good feeling. I could be wrong, but at some point, Drs. were prescribing XTC to women who were victim of rape, just to help them overcome the fear of being touch. I never heard of XTC causing permanent sexual problem.

One question for you is, which one cause you PSSD. Was it Zoloft or Prozac? Could Prozac caused the PSSD but while on Prozac either you did not feel the problem, or the drug itself helped your libido while you were on Prozac.

How many out there took only Zoloft, and then suffer from PSSD? Are all SSRI the same? Or is there something causing this? Could this related to D26 and being overdose by the SSRI? (Zoloft pathway is not D26).

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Correct me if im wrong but one of the patterns " I think " I see in most stories is that most SSRI users were really sexual before starting on SSRI. Otherwise how would anyone who wasnt sexual before

know they have lost thier high libido. I would say I had a somewhat social phobia but only when Im around too many people, I guess it was due to sensory overload. Now I guess my senses are not as sensitive, I dont feel that phobia as much. Prozac and Zoloft were first prescription drugs that I have taken in long term for any problem. The only drug that might have affected my body would be extacy. One thing I want to discuss is does having a lot of serotonin really kill libido or is it SSRI's inhibiting action on other thing might be the cause ? correct me if im wrong again but XTC raises serotonin right ? but it doesnt kill libido like SSRI does. It makes sensation a lot better like x 10 than normal.>> Has this group ever systematically explore the possibility that our problems could be the > result of SSRIs interacting with another variable such as another class of medication? I'm > not overly hopefully that we will find a pattern here, but maybe it is worth a try. Here are > some variables regarding my case. Maybe we all have one in common?>

> -I was also on Accutane for acne during part of my treatment. This actually made my penis > very dry.> -I abruptly started and stopped SSRI therapy many times. I took several different types but > only Paxil for an extended period of time.> -I started taking SSRIs during college, so a fair bit of drinking was involved. Probably not > the smartest thing I have done.> -I took SSRIs on and off (mostly on) for about 4 years.

> -I am probably bipolar II or cyclothymic. The SSRIs I tried tended to make me very > depressed but induced extremely pleasurable, but short, episodes of hypomania about > once every 2 weeks. I continues with the treatment because it lessened my extremely bad > GAD (generalized anxiety disorder) and social phobia (and the highs were amazing too)> -I have a pinched nerve in my back. (before I found out about PSSD it was a leading theory > for my numbness down there)> -Unfortunately I masturbated a lot when I was on SSRIs. I was EXTREMELY sexual before I > started taking them and it had become a habit, especially when depressed. Since the SSRIs > made me last longer and reduced my sensation when I was on them the masturbation was > a bit...aggressive. Maybe this is relevant...> -I am extremely sensitive to caffeine.> > It's a long shot but worth a try.

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Why is it that you take both Prozac and Zoloft?zoloftscrwd4life wrote: Correct me if im wrong but one of the patterns "I think" I see in most stories is that most SSRI users were really sexual before starting on SSRI. Otherwise how would anyone who wasnt sexual before know they have lost thier high libido. I would say I had a somewhat social phobia but only when Im around too many people, I guess it was due to sensory overload. Now I guess my senses are not as sensitive, I dont feel that phobia

as much. Prozac and Zoloft were first prescription drugs that I have taken in long term for any problem. The only drug that might have affected my body would be extacy. One thing I want to discuss is does having a lot of serotonin really kill libido or is it SSRI's inhibiting action on other thing might be the cause ? correct me if im wrong again but XTC raises serotonin right ? but it doesnt kill libido like SSRI does. It makes sensation a lot better like x 10 than normal.>> Has this group ever systematically explore the possibility that our problems could be the > result of SSRIs interacting with another variable such as another class of medication? I'm > not overly hopefully that we will find a pattern here, but maybe it is worth a try. Here are > some

variables regarding my case. Maybe we all have one in common?> > -I was also on Accutane for acne during part of my treatment. This actually made my penis > very dry.> -I abruptly started and stopped SSRI therapy many times. I took several different types but > only Paxil for an extended period of time.> -I started taking SSRIs during college, so a fair bit of drinking was involved. Probably not > the smartest thing I have done.> -I took SSRIs on and off (mostly on) for about 4 years.> -I am probably bipolar II or cyclothymic. The SSRIs I tried tended to make me very > depressed but induced extremely pleasurable, but short, episodes of hypomania about > once every 2 weeks. I continues with the treatment because it lessened my extremely bad > GAD (generalized anxiety disorder) and social phobia (and the highs were amazing too)> -I have a pinched nerve in my

back. (before I found out about PSSD it was a leading theory > for my numbness down there)> -Unfortunately I masturbated a lot when I was on SSRIs. I was EXTREMELY sexual before I > started taking them and it had become a habit, especially when depressed. Since the SSRIs > made me last longer and reduced my sensation when I was on them the masturbation was > a bit...aggressive. Maybe this is relevant...> -I am extremely sensitive to caffeine.> > It's a long shot but worth a try.>

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Here is a link describing XTC's impact on sexuality as well as

comparing the sexual effects of XTC with SSRIs. It seem that with

regular use, XTC WILL have all the same negative sexual effects as

SSRIs for many users.

http://www.idmu.co.uk/esex.htm

>

> One thing I want to discuss is does having a

> > lot of

> > serotonin really kill libido

>

> Hi - I agree, clearly not in itself. A very good point

> you make. I think XTC floods you with serotonin but

> with dopamine as well. But you don't know what the

> knock-on effects may be.

>

> I guess it

> > was due to sensory overload.

>

> or the processing of that information differently?

>

> Now I guess my senses

> > are not as

> > sensitive,

>

>

>

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Doc prescribed me prozac first, I quit in a week because it gave me

suicidal feelings and too much jittering energy. After that I was on

zoloft for 1.5 years. I am wondering that my self which might have

caused more damage prozac or zoloft. But I am 100% for sure prozac

was way worse than zoloft in sex department. On prozac I couldnt

even get a erection or couldnt even feel them. But when I switched

to zoloft, erection improved a little bit and I can actually have

some functions , just really bad and hurtful orgasm. But Im not sure

if prozac can cause PSSD in a week, could it ? it could be that

zoloft could have added to it. I remember reading a case paper

about someone who had suffered from PSSD for 6 years from quiting

zoloft on this site. So Im guessing that zoloft is able to cause

PSSD. Im sure our liver functioning is not what it use to be since

everything interconnected including our brain, adrenal gland,

hypothalamus, pituary and testes.

> > >

> > > Has this group ever systematically explore the possibility that

> > our problems could be the

> > > result of SSRIs interacting with another variable such as

another

> > class of medication? I'm

> > > not overly hopefully that we will find a pattern here, but

maybe

> > it is worth a try. Here are

> > > some variables regarding my case. Maybe we all have one in

common?

> > >

> > > -I was also on Accutane for acne during part of my treatment.

This

> > actually made my penis

> > > very dry.

> > > -I abruptly started and stopped SSRI therapy many times. I took

> > several different types but

> > > only Paxil for an extended period of time.

> > > -I started taking SSRIs during college, so a fair bit of

drinking

> > was involved. Probably not

> > > the smartest thing I have done.

> > > -I took SSRIs on and off (mostly on) for about 4 years.

> > > -I am probably bipolar II or cyclothymic. The SSRIs I tried

tended

> > to make me very

> > > depressed but induced extremely pleasurable, but short,

episodes

> > of hypomania about

> > > once every 2 weeks. I continues with the treatment because it

> > lessened my extremely bad

> > > GAD (generalized anxiety disorder) and social phobia (and the

> > highs were amazing too)

> > > -I have a pinched nerve in my back. (before I found out about

PSSD

> > it was a leading theory

> > > for my numbness down there)

> > > -Unfortunately I masturbated a lot when I was on SSRIs. I was

> > EXTREMELY sexual before I

> > > started taking them and it had become a habit, especially when

> > depressed. Since the SSRIs

> > > made me last longer and reduced my sensation when I was on them

> > the masturbation was

> > > a bit...aggressive. Maybe this is relevant...

> > > -I am extremely sensitive to caffeine.

> > >

> > > It's a long shot but worth a try.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

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