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First of all I would contact Dr blais and find out how he wants them

sent to him, second I would talk to your explanting surgeon

beforehand to make sure he knows that you want your implants to be

packaged properly after explant so that they can be sent to Dr Blais

for ananlysis, I would be sure that he understands you want pictures

of the implants with the capsules on them before they are sent

anywhere, if he is offended by this I wouldn't trust him to do the

job right. I would explain to him that you have heard of women not

having capsules taken out and getting sicker and that you just want

to be extremely careful, also get it in writting.

I wouldn't worry so much about the time scheduled as I would about

all this other stuff, because if the surgery runs over schedule they

are usually prepared for that, however if you are having any second

thoughts about this PS I would be careful, you do not want to have to

have more surgeries down the road.

Call him and discuss these issues asap, to put your mind at ease, and

yes usually an explant and capsulectomy would take longer than an

hour and a half, but who knows, most of us had lifts too.

What incision is he using?

Good luck and keep us posted!

In @y..., cpannarale@y... wrote:

> Hello!

>

> I am slightly confused at what I should do for my explantation.

>

> First, are my implants and capsules sent to a pathologist

> automatically or do I do this?

>

> Next, does dr. blais do this or does he just examine the implants

> after pathology or before?

>

> Finally, I don't know if I missed the post but did Dr. Kolb post

how

> long an explantation usually takes? Because I'm suppose to be

having

> a complete capsulectomy no mastopexy and it's only scheduled for 1

> 1/2 hours while most of you seem to have had 3 hour surgeries!!!!

>

> Can I expect my surgeon to be offended by asking him to take

pictures

> or videotaping the procedure? Whats the best way of trying to

> guarantee that the capsules be taken out?

>

> Thanks,

> Charlene

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Hmm I don't have crease scars so i do not know how they look, anyone

here have crease incisions? How do they look?

It will give him good access at least I know that much for sure!

In @y..., " Charlene Pannarale " <criviezzi@h...> wrote:

> He is cutting underneath the breast. I had an incision around the

nipple

> with the implant and lift so he said that it would probably be

better to do

> from under the breast to hide the scar.

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: <cjheer@i...>

> < @y...>

> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 2:32 PM

> Subject: Re: confused!!!

>

>

> > First of all I would contact Dr blais and find out how he wants

them

> > sent to him, second I would talk to your explanting surgeon

> > beforehand to make sure he knows that you want your implants to be

> > packaged properly after explant so that they can be sent to Dr

Blais

> > for ananlysis, I would be sure that he understands you want

pictures

> > of the implants with the capsules on them before they are sent

> > anywhere, if he is offended by this I wouldn't trust him to do the

> > job right. I would explain to him that you have heard of women not

> > having capsules taken out and getting sicker and that you just

want

> > to be extremely careful, also get it in writting.

> >

> > I wouldn't worry so much about the time scheduled as I would about

> > all this other stuff, because if the surgery runs over schedule

they

> > are usually prepared for that, however if you are having any

second

> > thoughts about this PS I would be careful, you do not want to

have to

> > have more surgeries down the road.

> >

> > Call him and discuss these issues asap, to put your mind at ease,

and

> > yes usually an explant and capsulectomy would take longer than an

> > hour and a half, but who knows, most of us had lifts too.

> >

> > What incision is he using?

> >

> > Good luck and keep us posted!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > In @y..., cpannarale@y... wrote:

> > > Hello!

> > >

> > > I am slightly confused at what I should do for my explantation.

> > >

> > > First, are my implants and capsules sent to a pathologist

> > > automatically or do I do this?

> > >

> > > Next, does dr. blais do this or does he just examine the

implants

> > > after pathology or before?

> > >

> > > Finally, I don't know if I missed the post but did Dr. Kolb post

> > how

> > > long an explantation usually takes? Because I'm suppose to be

> > having

> > > a complete capsulectomy no mastopexy and it's only scheduled

for 1

> > > 1/2 hours while most of you seem to have had 3 hour

surgeries!!!!

> > >

> > > Can I expect my surgeon to be offended by asking him to take

> > pictures

> > > or videotaping the procedure? Whats the best way of trying to

> > > guarantee that the capsules be taken out?

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > > Charlene

> >

> >

> >

> >

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My scars were done from around the nipple down and from what I

understand this is the method of choice for most PS's I do still see

mine, around the nipple but the ones running down are invisible after

only 10 months so I think they look good, I have stretch marks that

are bigger!

In @y..., " Beverley Smalley " <kokomo@b...> wrote:

> I had incisions underneath the breast but they didn't do it in the

crease

> because the doctor said if you wear a bathing suit and it pulls up

the scar

> would show. So he did it slightly above the crease. I always notice

it and

> feel self conscious, particularly when I see women who had the

incision

> around the nipple or under the arm and it looks so natural. I'm

sorry I

> didn't ask about it. The scar is definitely less noticeable in time

but

> never goes away.

> Beverley Smalley

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: <cjheer@i...>

> < @y...>

> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 4:57 PM

> Subject: Re: confused!!!

>

>

> > Hmm I don't have crease scars so i do not know how they look,

anyone

> > here have crease incisions? How do they look?

> >

> >

> > It will give him good access at least I know that much for sure!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > In @y..., " Charlene Pannarale " <criviezzi@h...>

wrote:

> > > He is cutting underneath the breast. I had an incision around

the

> > nipple

> > > with the implant and lift so he said that it would probably be

> > better to do

> > > from under the breast to hide the scar.

> > > ----- Original Message -----

> > > From: <cjheer@i...>

> > > < @y...>

> > > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 2:32 PM

> > > Subject: Re: confused!!!

> > >

> > >

> > > > First of all I would contact Dr blais and find out how he

wants

> > them

> > > > sent to him, second I would talk to your explanting surgeon

> > > > beforehand to make sure he knows that you want your implants

to be

> > > > packaged properly after explant so that they can be sent to Dr

> > Blais

> > > > for ananlysis, I would be sure that he understands you want

> > pictures

> > > > of the implants with the capsules on them before they are sent

> > > > anywhere, if he is offended by this I wouldn't trust him to

do the

> > > > job right. I would explain to him that you have heard of

women not

> > > > having capsules taken out and getting sicker and that you just

> > want

> > > > to be extremely careful, also get it in writting.

> > > >

> > > > I wouldn't worry so much about the time scheduled as I would

about

> > > > all this other stuff, because if the surgery runs over

schedule

> > they

> > > > are usually prepared for that, however if you are having any

> > second

> > > > thoughts about this PS I would be careful, you do not want to

> > have to

> > > > have more surgeries down the road.

> > > >

> > > > Call him and discuss these issues asap, to put your mind at

ease,

> > and

> > > > yes usually an explant and capsulectomy would take longer

than an

> > > > hour and a half, but who knows, most of us had lifts too.

> > > >

> > > > What incision is he using?

> > > >

> > > > Good luck and keep us posted!

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > In @y..., cpannarale@y... wrote:

> > > > > Hello!

> > > > >

> > > > > I am slightly confused at what I should do for my

explantation.

> > > > >

> > > > > First, are my implants and capsules sent to a pathologist

> > > > > automatically or do I do this?

> > > > >

> > > > > Next, does dr. blais do this or does he just examine the

> > implants

> > > > > after pathology or before?

> > > > >

> > > > > Finally, I don't know if I missed the post but did Dr. Kolb

post

> > > > how

> > > > > long an explantation usually takes? Because I'm suppose to

be

> > > > having

> > > > > a complete capsulectomy no mastopexy and it's only scheduled

> > for 1

> > > > > 1/2 hours while most of you seem to have had 3 hour

> > surgeries!!!!

> > > > >

> > > > > Can I expect my surgeon to be offended by asking him to take

> > > > pictures

> > > > > or videotaping the procedure? Whats the best way of trying

to

> > > > > guarantee that the capsules be taken out?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > Charlene

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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he can analyze them but I am not sure if they would show anything if

they have been in the fridge or handled, unfortunatly they are not

supposed to be kept cold, it kills things I think.

Check out some of the posts further back I think his info is there I

think it is around 200 or 300 bucks and it depends on how much you

want done.

In @y..., " Beverley Smalley " <kokomo@b...> wrote:

> Can Dr. Blais analyze my implant that I have had for over 3 years

and kept

> in the refrigerator? (nice when you have company) What is the

procedure and

> the cost?

> Beverley Smalley

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: <cjheer@i...>

> < @y...>

> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 2:32 PM

> Subject: Re: confused!!!

>

>

> > First of all I would contact Dr blais and find out how he wants

them

> > sent to him, second I would talk to your explanting surgeon

> > beforehand to make sure he knows that you want your implants to be

> > packaged properly after explant so that they can be sent to Dr

Blais

> > for ananlysis, I would be sure that he understands you want

pictures

> > of the implants with the capsules on them before they are sent

> > anywhere, if he is offended by this I wouldn't trust him to do the

> > job right. I would explain to him that you have heard of women not

> > having capsules taken out and getting sicker and that you just

want

> > to be extremely careful, also get it in writting.

> >

> > I wouldn't worry so much about the time scheduled as I would about

> > all this other stuff, because if the surgery runs over schedule

they

> > are usually prepared for that, however if you are having any

second

> > thoughts about this PS I would be careful, you do not want to

have to

> > have more surgeries down the road.

> >

> > Call him and discuss these issues asap, to put your mind at ease,

and

> > yes usually an explant and capsulectomy would take longer than an

> > hour and a half, but who knows, most of us had lifts too.

> >

> > What incision is he using?

> >

> > Good luck and keep us posted!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > In @y..., cpannarale@y... wrote:

> > > Hello!

> > >

> > > I am slightly confused at what I should do for my explantation.

> > >

> > > First, are my implants and capsules sent to a pathologist

> > > automatically or do I do this?

> > >

> > > Next, does dr. blais do this or does he just examine the

implants

> > > after pathology or before?

> > >

> > > Finally, I don't know if I missed the post but did Dr. Kolb post

> > how

> > > long an explantation usually takes? Because I'm suppose to be

> > having

> > > a complete capsulectomy no mastopexy and it's only scheduled

for 1

> > > 1/2 hours while most of you seem to have had 3 hour

surgeries!!!!

> > >

> > > Can I expect my surgeon to be offended by asking him to take

> > pictures

> > > or videotaping the procedure? Whats the best way of trying to

> > > guarantee that the capsules be taken out?

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > > Charlene

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Dr Feng uses the lolipop incision and it is around the entire nipple

and then a long incison down from the nipple to the crease....this

method works extremely well for her, she has performed thousands of

these, I believe Dr Kolb does them this way as well, I think that it

depends on the PS and Dr Feng has such teeny hands I think she can

just get right in there, anyhow that is how mine was done and I know

she got it all out cause I saw the nasty things....and I had some big

implants. When they use retractors it is amazing how big they can

make the opening with stretching and it is gross but it is true.

@y..., Rogene S <saxony01@y...> wrote:

> If you have enough breast left to hang down a bit, and

> if you are not the type to get those heavy ketoid?

> scars, they should look fine. I can't imagine how a

> surgeon could remove them completely otherwise.

>

> I saw a slide show of a surgeon who removed them

> through the nipple . . . didn't look like the way to

> go to me!

>

> Rogene

>

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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Charlene,

My surgery was only 1 1/2 hrs long. I think that the

length of the surgery depends on how bad your implants

look when the surgeon gets in, and also what you are

having done. I also think it depends on the skill of

the surgeon. As for how long your surgery is scheduled,

and if it goes over, that isn't a problem at all.

Surgeries often do go over, either because of

complications, more needs to be done than originally

thought, the surgeon is late, or other unforseen

circumstances.

As for sending your implants to the path dept, I would

not if you plan to send them to Pierre. He does a

complete analysis, internal and external, and is 100x

more thorough than any pathology dept. And if you send

the implants to pathology, they will more than likely

put them in formalin, or contaminate them in some way.

So, you need to decide one or the other.

If you decide to send them to Pierre, call him first and

he can give you all the details prior to sending them.

e

> Hello!

>

> I am slightly confused at what I should do for my explantation.

>

> First, are my implants and capsules sent to a pathologist

> automatically or do I do this?

>

> Next, does dr. blais do this or does he just examine the implants

> after pathology or before?

>

> Finally, I don't know if I missed the post but did Dr. Kolb post how

> long an explantation usually takes? Because I'm suppose to be having

> a complete capsulectomy no mastopexy and it's only scheduled for 1

> 1/2 hours while most of you seem to have had 3 hour surgeries!!!!

>

> Can I expect my surgeon to be offended by asking him to take pictures

> or videotaping the procedure? Whats the best way of trying to

> guarantee that the capsules be taken out?

>

> Thanks,

> Charlene

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Explants usually take 1.5 to 3 hours depending on difficulty. Textured take

longer. .

----- Original Message -----

From: <eRene@...>

< >

Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 9:30 PM

Subject: Re: confused!!!

> Charlene,

>

> My surgery was only 1 1/2 hrs long. I think that the

> length of the surgery depends on how bad your implants

> look when the surgeon gets in, and also what you are

> having done. I also think it depends on the skill of

> the surgeon. As for how long your surgery is scheduled,

> and if it goes over, that isn't a problem at all.

> Surgeries often do go over, either because of

> complications, more needs to be done than originally

> thought, the surgeon is late, or other unforseen

> circumstances.

>

> As for sending your implants to the path dept, I would

> not if you plan to send them to Pierre. He does a

> complete analysis, internal and external, and is 100x

> more thorough than any pathology dept. And if you send

> the implants to pathology, they will more than likely

> put them in formalin, or contaminate them in some way.

> So, you need to decide one or the other.

>

> If you decide to send them to Pierre, call him first and

> he can give you all the details prior to sending them.

>

> e

> > Hello!

> >

> > I am slightly confused at what I should do for my explantation.

> >

> > First, are my implants and capsules sent to a pathologist

> > automatically or do I do this?

> >

> > Next, does dr. blais do this or does he just examine the implants

> > after pathology or before?

> >

> > Finally, I don't know if I missed the post but did Dr. Kolb post how

> > long an explantation usually takes? Because I'm suppose to be having

> > a complete capsulectomy no mastopexy and it's only scheduled for 1

> > 1/2 hours while most of you seem to have had 3 hour surgeries!!!!

> >

> > Can I expect my surgeon to be offended by asking him to take pictures

> > or videotaping the procedure? Whats the best way of trying to

> > guarantee that the capsules be taken out?

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Charlene

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Hi everyone,

I am back from my weekend trip and I see lots of letters....just wanted to

put in my two cents worth on some of these.

Charlene, here are my suggestions for some of your questions:

> First, are my implants and capsules sent to a pathologist

> automatically or do I do this?

In most cases, you will have to request that your capsules be sent to

pathology for analysis of the tissue. Some doctors may think this is

totally unnecessary, as they believe nothing substantial or earthshattering

will be found, so they don't order it. It's just scar tissue, and it is

disposed of. In my case, my doctor said it was totally up to me if I wanted

it analyzed or not, and not being sure, I took the cautious approach and

requested a pathology report. I had to pay $200 for it out my own pocket.

The report basically describes the specimens collected, clinical

information, a detailed description ( " a flat, glistening, gray-tan

fibromembranous soft tissue fragment..... " ) It did also say " negative for

neoplasia, " whatever that means. The main reason for a pathology report

would be to identify anything suspicious, and I would suppose you could also

request that the entire capsule be sent (mine apparently was just a

fragment), so they could determine whether or not the whole capsule was

excised. This could be another method of determining if a total

capsulectomy was performed. Of course, you would have to make your request

in writing, and tell them exactly what you want to know. There was a

specific form on a website that I know was a sample letter for requesting a

detailed pathology report. You just have to make a decision about how much

you are willing to pay for the information you want to know.

> Next, does dr. blais do this or does he just examine the implants

> after pathology or before?

Dr. Blais is an expert on failed medical devices. To my knowledge, he only

examines implants, not scar tissue, and this would necessarily be after

pathology, as a separate analysis. He specifically looks for the fault of

the implant, and can tell you if there were leaks, what was wrong with them,

can identify them and tell you what specific problems existed with specific

styles, can tell you if organisms are growing in the saline, etc. This

information can be quite valuable. You can contact him to find out exactly

what he wants you to do regarding your implants after surgery, and how they

should be sent to him.

> Can I expect my surgeon to be offended by asking him to take pictures

> or videotaping the procedure?

He probably won't like it, if he is set in his ways, has a big ego, is

insecure, or wants his patients to be good little girls and let him do his

job the way he wants. If he wants to give you the care you want, he will try

to work this out with you to your satifaction. Of course, there may be rules

in hospitals about this--I have no idea, but I do know that there is a

doctor in Texas who videotapes his explants, so it is not unheard of.

Whats the best way of trying to

> guarantee that the capsules be taken out?

Have a really good plastic surgeon who cares about you as a human being, and

that means having a positive, trusting relationship with the ability to

discuss this aspect in frank detail, with the understanding that there is NO

compromise on this issue. Beyond that, the only other way I know is to go

to Dr. Feng!

All my best,

Patty

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Im not sure what the speech therapist meant when she said " some component of

apraxia " . We just started into this and ther is sooo much more for us to learn.I

will definatly be asking her at next weeks session. Thank you for your input, it

helps to know there are other people going through this other than us.

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I think it just means she suspects apraxia. At your son's age that's pretty

much all they can do is diagnose suspected verbal apraxia and proceed with

appropriate therapy for apraxia just in case. Now oral apraxia...that can be

diagnosed really early on the other hand. And if your child has signs of oral

apraxia -then for almost 100 percent sure verbal apraxia will be a diagnosis as

well.

http://www.cherab.org/information/speechlanguage/oralapraxia.html

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Yes that's correct -unless you are following the hierarchy of language

development via the Kaufman method -with some apraxic children if a word is too

difficult for them to say, or 'they' think it is, they may not even attempt it

-so with the Kaufman approach it provides the developmentally appropriate

approximations. I'd have to check the cards to see what the break down is for

bottle.

Here's an article about the Kaufman approach for any late talker that was pulled

from The Late Talker book:

http://www.speechville.com/KaufmanKitArticle.html

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The break down for " bottle " if that is what you want- is " bah-o " , " Bahd-O " ,

" Bah-do " , and then bottle. Of course all the o sounds are long o. The Kauffman

kit is great. I used it everyday in the beginning. It worked. I would give

him the real word and the approximation that he was " ready " for. Then when he

mastered it, we moved to the next one. I recommend getting it, it's worth the

money. It gave my son something that he ;acked for two years- confidence and

success with verbal language. I hope that this helps.

>

> Yes that's correct -unless you are following the hierarchy of language

development via the Kaufman method -with some apraxic children if a word is too

difficult for them to say, or 'they' think it is, they may not even attempt it

-so with the Kaufman approach it provides the developmentally appropriate

approximations. I'd have to check the cards to see what the break down is for

bottle.

> Here's an article about the Kaufman approach for any late talker that was

pulled from The Late Talker book:

> http://www.speechville.com/KaufmanKitArticle.html

>

>

> =====

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