Re: Dr. Sebi

[Guest guest]

I'm convinced that heavy distance training like marathons is the only

cure along with taking HGH which definitely helps facilitate energy

and recovery. I trained hard for 2 weeks and saw a huge change in my

mood, memory, and emotions. Old facial expressions started coming

back to me as well as natural smiles. I started seeing beauty in

things and when I played with my dick, it got rock hard with full

blood but was not able to stay like that for long. Understand that

the erection is the last part of the electrical pathway of pleasure

from your pituitary and pineal glands, down through your chest, into

your stomach, through your testicles, up into your dick.

[Guest guest]

distance training sounds like a good idea. Ive never really trained in

any form of serious running but Ive heard they are definite plus when

it comes to health.

>

> I'm convinced that heavy distance training like marathons is the only

> cure along with taking HGH which definitely helps facilitate energy

> and recovery. I trained hard for 2 weeks and saw a huge change in my

> mood, memory, and emotions. Old facial expressions started coming

> back to me as well as natural smiles. I started seeing beauty in

> things and when I played with my dick, it got rock hard with full

> blood but was not able to stay like that for long. Understand that

> the erection is the last part of the electrical pathway of pleasure

> from your pituitary and pineal glands, down through your chest, into

> your stomach, through your testicles, up into your dick.

>

[Guest guest]

The cure to PSSD? Running. and a lot of it. check out the tests that

were done on mice who were given anti-depressents. all mice given

anti-depressents became unpleasurable and nons*exual. The ones who

took part in wheel running were the only ones able to feel pleasure

and be happy again. I'll find the link soon and put it up on here.

[Guest guest]

Running/jogging is suppose to increase libido, so i believe what

happen to the mice.

I have not yet started jogging but i have been taking a chineese

herbal remadee called maxman i bought off the 'net'. It seems like

it improves blood circulation to my *enis and i can feel it more

during teh day for example. I think the ssri's reduced the blood

supply to my *enis.

I also read on the net, can cause our bladder muscle to become weak,

which seems to explain why i somtimes wake up twice to urinate

during my sleep. This muscle i think alos plays a role in erection

strength, hence why people recommend doing kegal exercises.

>

> The cure to PSSD? Running. and a lot of it. check out the tests

that

> were done on mice who were given anti-depressents. all mice given

> anti-depressents became unpleasurable and nons*exual. The ones who

> took part in wheel running were the only ones able to feel pleasure

> and be happy again. I'll find the link soon and put it up on here.

>

[Guest guest]

How can you be so sure that running is the cure? I guess post the link

anyhow. I'm pretty sure Vornan wrote about how he runs at least a mile

per day and I'm not sure if he has recovered at all.

>

> The cure to PSSD? Running. and a lot of it. check out the tests that

> were done on mice who were given anti-depressents. all mice given

> anti-depressents became unpleasurable and nons*exual. The ones who

> took part in wheel running were the only ones able to feel pleasure

> and be happy again. I'll find the link soon and put it up on here.

>

[Guest guest]

Exercise changes gene expression...

http://www.google.com/search?q=exercise+%22gene+expression%22 & hl=en & rls=com.microsoft:en-US & start=0 & sa=N

....but those gene expression changes may not necessarily be the right ones to reverse PSSD.

I think exercise certainly helps in an overall plan of attack to cure PSSD, but it's only part of the answer. Some people in the group, including myself, have been exercicing for years and still have PSSD.

Vornan

> >> > The cure to PSSD? Running. and a lot of it. check out the tests that> > were done on mice who were given anti-depressents. all mice given> > anti-depressents became unpleasurable and nons*exual. The ones who> > took part in wheel running were the only ones able to feel pleasure> > and be happy again. I'll find the link soon and put it up on here.> >>

[Guest guest]

OK, I'm not "Dr. Sebi" but I'm going to throw my 2 lincs down for thisIf you get one of those $30 spray bottles of herbal crap, you're wasting your money.It is not going do contain anywhere near the amount of GH to have a therapeutic effect. You want the real deal that cost between $375-$599 for a 100iu kit.And you have to take 4-6iu every day (divided into two shots in th a.m. and p.m.) for at least 6 months before you get any solid results.Sure it's expensive and you have to stick a slin pin in yourself twice a day,but that is the real way to get results.You might also want to do some research on GHRP-6.It is a peptide analog of growth hormone releasing hormone. It has a longer activity in the body and produces higher levels of GH in the blood.You can find it on research lab supply type sites. You mix it and shoot it the same way as GH. And it is cheaperHave a nice day.

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<snip> I also read on the net, can cause our bladder muscle to become weak, which seems to explain why i somtimes wake up twice to urinate during my sleep. This muscle i think alos plays a role in erection strength, hence why people recommend doing kegal exercisesHi allIf you are going to the bathroom twice in a night i would be looking at your prostate, it also messes with erection. do kegal exercises work on men? i thought only women had that muscle mike "Ignorance ain't not knowin' stuff; ignorance is knowin' stuff that AIN'T TRUE." Josh Billings "To have a successful marriage, a man must, on a fundamental level . . . be scared shitless of his wife." Hoffman

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[Guest guest]

Men also have this muscle, it is responsible for helping firmer

erection, and the 'force' in which your semen shoots out. If u want

ur semen to shoot further when u ejaculate, its kegal exercises that

can help ( so ive been told )

if u type a search in yahoo for kegal exercises for men, you will

find out alot more..

i hate pssd

>

> <snip> I also read on the net, can cause our bladder muscle to

become weak,

> which seems to explain why i somtimes wake up twice to urinate

> during my sleep. This muscle i think alos plays a role in

erection

> strength, hence why people recommend doing kegal exercises

>

> Hi all

> If you are going to the bathroom twice in a night i would be

looking at your prostate, it also messes with erection.

> do kegal exercises work on men? i thought only women had that

muscle

> mike

>

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>

>

> " Ignorance ain't not knowin' stuff; ignorance is knowin' stuff

that AIN'T

> TRUE. " Josh Billings

>

> " To have a successful marriage, a man must, on a fundamental

level . . . be

> scared shitless of his wife. " Hoffman

>

>

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[Guest guest]

A mile a day is not going to do much. That is practically nothing. A

mile takes 7-12 minutes to run based on your ability. More like heavy

marathon training. Running an hour a day to start off would be best

and you will notice a big difference in emotions and mood. You'll

feel better but you won't notice even a small difference in your

libido until you've been doing it for a couple weeks. Understand that

the circadian rhythym and natural electricity throughout your body is

messed up. Restoring this endocrine problem is not an overnight

solution and a medication is not going to cure this problem for you

overnight. I wish it were that easy myself. But anyway Zant, I

guarantee you that if you jog for an hour a day for the next week, you

will feel a lot better but you will still be impotent. One week's

training is not enough to stimulate full endocronine healing. It

takes weeks upon weeks. Running does wonders for the whole body and

as you continue to do it, you will notice how will be rushing

through your brain, regenerating your system and cleansing your

endocrine. Don't expect any big results in the first week as far as

erections, but after a couple months, you'll start to feel it. The

emotions and mood are the first things that you will notice. The way

music hits you, etc. You'll start to have moments of peace.

Understand that this is only with marathon, cross country type of

running. Simply a mile a day is not a long enough period for

endocrine healing. 1 hour a day, easy. To start off. Find some

marathoners around your way to train with.

> >

> > The cure to PSSD? Running. and a lot of it. check out the tests that

> > were done on mice who were given anti-depressents. all mice given

> > anti-depressents became unpleasurable and nons*exual. The ones who

> > took part in wheel running were the only ones able to feel pleasure

> > and be happy again. I'll find the link soon and put it up on here.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Now is this natural growth hormone or the artificial stuff that the

MLB baseball players use??

>

> As I said, you have to use it for 6 months for it's effects to

become apparent.

> I have been using it for one month and I do feel better already.

> So at this point it is a matter of time before I can tell you

anymore about

> how it effects my recovery.

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Just my experience:

I am a distance runner and bicyclist, and average between 30-40 miles

per week running and another 40-60 miles biking. I've finished 16

marathons over the past 5 years, and numerous other races of varying

distances. I took Zoloft for about 3 and a half years, but quit

taking it over 10 years ago. While I now consider my libido to be

normal and the regular exercise is beneficial for the well-being of my

mind and body, it has not done anything for my particular PSSD

symptom: ejaculatory anhedonia. Of course, it may be just me, since

I've been off SSRIs for over ten years and the effect may be permanent

for me. But I never want to discourage anyone from running or even

starting, because it has been an enjoyable pastime for me. It just

might not be the solution to all your problems.

> > >

> > > The cure to PSSD? Running. and a lot of it. check out the

tests that

> > > were done on mice who were given anti-depressents. all mice given

> > > anti-depressents became unpleasurable and nons*exual. The ones who

> > > took part in wheel running were the only ones able to feel pleasure

> > > and be happy again. I'll find the link soon and put it up on here.

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Now is this natural growth hormone or the artificial stuff that the MLB baseball players use??By natural, I think you mean the herbal (mucuna pruriens extract) concoctions being peddled in health food stores as GH secretogoges.This crap isn't worth wasting your money on.Artificial? Well you can't get the natural kind that was extracted from the pituitary glands of cadavers since it was shown to cause Crutzfield s disease.So yes it is the laboratory synthesized GH. This is the same kind that MLB baseball players use to recover from injury's faster. There was a guy that posted on the list a few days ago that said he used it and did long distance running and he recovered very well that way.

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[Guest guest]

That artificial growth hormone stuff is not going to cure your PSSD.

It has been shown to cause impotence in baseball players as well as

mood swings and all types of problems like acne all over your body as

well as a multitude of other problems. Good luck with that. I can

tell by your posts already that you seem to be very tempermental

Guild and I think the artificial GH can be contributing to

that. As far as the post about the guy who did distance running and

taking GH, that was me buddy. And that was the herbal GH and I only

saw minimal improvement after training hard for 2 weeks. I must admit

I did see a minimal increase in pleasure, but nothing substantial. I

thought that if I kept training I would get better. I guess that's

not true after I just read that guy's post who said he's been running

and biking for over 10 years and not alleviated his symptoms of

ejaculatory anhedonia. He did say that he has normal libido. I'm not

sure if he was completely libidoless when he first got off the

anti-depressant or not.

>

> Now is this natural growth hormone or the artificial stuff that the

> MLB baseball players use??

>

> By natural, I think you mean the herbal (mucuna pruriens extract)

concoctions being peddled in health food stores as GH secretogoges.

> This crap isn't worth wasting your money on.

>

> Artificial? Well you can't get the natural kind that was extracted

from the pituitary glands of cadavers since it was shown to cause

Crutzfield s disease.

> So yes it is the laboratory synthesized GH. This is the same kind

that MLB baseball players use to recover from injury's faster. There

was a guy that posted on the list a few days ago that said he used it

and did long distance running and he recovered very well that way.

>

>

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>

[Guest guest]

> > >

> > > As I said, you have to use it for 6 months for it's effects to

> > become apparent.

> > > I have been using it for one month and I do feel better already.

> > > So at this point it is a matter of time before I can tell you

> > anymore about

> > > how it effects my recovery.

> > >

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[Guest guest]

I read in a magazine that Benoit had nowhere near 10x the normal

testosterone level - it was just made up by the media.

In truth he was on TRT and had a level at most 1.5x normal.

Vornan

> > > >

> > > > As I said, you have to use it for 6 months for it's effects to

> > > become apparent.

> > > > I have been using it for one month and I do feel better

already.

> > > > So at this point it is a matter of time before I can tell you

> > > anymore about

> > > > how it effects my recovery.

> > > >

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[Guest guest]

Hi Shay,

I am also looking into adrenal fatigue as a possible component to my

problems. From what I read it's very treatable but takes time. Most

doctors don't have a clue about it and don't test for it. Did you

get DHEA and Cortisol tested?

Luther

> > >

> > > As I said, you have to use it for 6 months for it's effects to

> > become apparent.

> > > I have been using it for one month and I do feel better

already.

> > > So at this point it is a matter of time before I can tell you

> > anymore about

> > > how it effects my recovery.

> > >

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[Guest guest]

Well I wonder what they consider a " normal " level. Most lab ranges

are 300-1000, so if they used 300*10...3000. That still seems very

unrealistic. Proves you can't believe everything you read.

Luther

> > > > >

> > > > > As I said, you have to use it for 6 months for it's

effects to

> > > > become apparent.

> > > > > I have been using it for one month and I do feel better

> already.

> > > > > So at this point it is a matter of time before I can tell

you

> > > > anymore about

> > > > > how it effects my recovery.

> > > > >

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[Guest guest]

Apparantly they only measured urinary testoterone anyway, and it was like 207 out of a range 0f 30 - 150 or something like that. I can't remember the exact numbers.

I think it's much more likely he snapped because of brain damage than high T levels:

http://www.reuters.com/article/peopleNews/idUSN0523057520070905

http://www.miamiherald.com/breaking_sports/story/227066.html

Vornan

> > > > > >> > > > > > As I said, you have to use it for 6 months for it's > effects to> > > > > become apparent.> > > > > > I have been using it for one month and I do feel better > > already.> > > > > > So at this point it is a matter of time before I can tell > you> > > > > anymore about> > > > > > how it effects my recovery.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > ---------------------------------> > > > > > Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top > > picks on> > > > > Yahoo! TV.> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

Were you completely libidoless before you started biking and running?

Or was it always just the ejaculatory anhedonia???

[Guest guest]

Keep in mind that right after a vigorous run, you may feel less libido as

running does raise

serotonin levels in the brain, it also releases tension in the body and may

decrease build

up of seminal fluids in the prostate which can increase arousal slightly. So

there are down

sides to running as a form of healing PSSD as well. However, consistant running

i think

does help in the long run with sexuality, it releases many nuerotransmitters,

including

dopamine, it builds new dopamine receptor sites in the brain, and as mentioned

it may

probably helps with the electrical system in the brain nervous system

connection.

I think there is more to be explored in this electrical impulse issue regarding

nervous

sytem communication in the body. PSSD as well as other physical and emotional

side

effects from ssri use have always FELT partly " electrical " to me.

> > >

> > > The cure to PSSD? Running. and a lot of it. check out the tests that

> > > were done on mice who were given anti-depressents. all mice given

> > > anti-depressents became unpleasurable and nons*exual. The ones who

> > > took part in wheel running were the only ones able to feel pleasure

> > > and be happy again. I'll find the link soon and put it up on here.

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I've read that moderate exercise such as running also increases

testosterone levels.

> > > >

> > > > The cure to PSSD? Running. and a lot of it. check out the

tests that

> > > > were done on mice who were given anti-depressents. all mice

given

> > > > anti-depressents became unpleasurable and nons*exual. The

ones who

> > > > took part in wheel running were the only ones able to feel

pleasure

> > > > and be happy again. I'll find the link soon and put it up on

here.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Trial and error is what has gotten me to this point, and I don't want

anything to do with standard medical doctors anymore. They are owned by

the system.

Maybe you should look up the side-effects of the synthetic T boosters.

After our fiasco with antidepressants, it doesn't seem to me like anyone

here would be willing to take more chemicals produced by drug companies.

I seriously doubt the T killed him, and I could have sworn I heard

somewhere that Benoit was indeed on some kind of medication,

either an anti-depressant or anti-anxiety, but I can't find the link.

The nice thing about these bioidentical gels is the fact that they are

completely natural and are not sold by Phizer, or another billion dollar

company.

The place I'm going to is www.BodyLogicMD.com. It's a private company in

just a couple states that specializes in adrenal fatigue and hormone

imbalances. The doctors are not endocrinologists, and I have no

intention of seeing an endo because they use only pharmaceutical drugs

and T shots. The doctor's name for here in Arizona is Dr. Honing.

The saliva test I took measures Cortisol (4x in one day), DHEA,

progesterone, estradiol, and Testosterone. My cortisol level was sky

high in the morning, then dropped too low by the end of the day. The

DHEA was super high, as if something was stuck, and the T was obviously

super low.

The blood test measured: zinc plasma, DHEA-S, Dihydrotestosterone,

Estradiol, Luteinizing Hormone, Prolactin, PSA, Testosterone (free and

bound), Thyroid Stimulating Hormone, Metabolic Panel, Hemaglobin A1C,

Insulin, CBC, Lipid Panel, Vitamin D.

Everything I've read and tried points in this direction, so hopefully

come September 21st I'll finally have a real doctor help me out.

Shay

survivor030406 wrote:

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> > > >

> > > > As I said, you have to use it for 6 months for it's effects to

> > > become apparent.

> > > > I have been using it for one month and I do feel better already.

> > > > So at this point it is a matter of time before I can tell you

> > > anymore about

> > > > how it effects my recovery.

> > > >

> > > >

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