RE: more specific for inquiry

[Guest guest]

Within the last many years, I have felt most free when crying. It releases

me. I treasure it.

Steve

PS - Since I am a guy, please don't tell anyone.

Re: more specific for inquiry

> > > Anyone have suggestions about how best to word things to do the

> > > inquiry? sometimes I have stressfull thoughts/situations that i

> > want

> > > to inquire on but i'm not sure how to frame them to best

> facilitate

> > > the Work.

> > >

> > >

> > Heidi,

> >

> > That's a little vague and too general a request to my mind. When

> you

> > are writing out a worksheet don't be too concerned about how to

> frame

> > it. Just get down on paper what's troubling you. When it comes to

> > picking a thought/belief to investigate from what you've written

> out,

> > yes, there may be a way to start that is right and helpful for

you.

> > We all have to find our way with this, what suits the particular

> > mind/personality the best. And it's not complicated at all, just

a

> > little practice at what speaks to you the best.

> > For example recently you were doing inquiry on " I want a shift " .

> > Now I would inquire into " I should have a shift " - I just ease

> into

> > it better that way. If I inquire into " I want a shift " - is it

> true -

> > I might want to say , yes, of course I want a shift and that's

OK -

> I

> > could continue anyway to the next questions. It just seems easier

> and

> > softer on this conditioned mind to ask it " Is it true I should

have

> a

> > shift " ?

> > You might write out an example of something you want to inquire

> into

> > and throw it out here to the group and get ideas of ways to

> approach

> > it and then see what speaks to you.

> >

> > Love you, precious

> >

> > Margaret

[Guest guest]

thank you for that margaret- i hadn't really thought of grief or pain in that

way. my sweet mom died 2 years ago- she and i had been alone since my dad died

when i was 9. we lived in the same town, and then next door to each other as

she got older. she watched my children grow- she was part of the family- like

two trees - separate uet entwined. i took care of her as she had alzheimers and

evolved into the sweetest child- asking- " who put the stars in the sky? " and

" where do they get the pieces to make kittens " ..and was .there with her alone at

her last breath. and i KNOW she has gone " on " - i often feel her presence....and

i heard katie talk about her brother's death- and i didn't hear say she grieved,

or cried out loud - and i have felt sometimes inadequate or abnormal, because i

do still miss my mom a lot and some times even now, i cry for her. i often

squelch the urge to cry- saying " stop telling yourself sad stories about how you

miss her " , or " you're too busy to get sad today " . so maybe it's ok whichever i

do- huh- and drop the maybe-?? hahah- tthanks- and though i don't say much on

here- i am a big fan of yours, margaret. heidi- sorry to horn in on your

message- i think you are adorable- so open to the work...love laurie/lauren

Re: more specific for inquiry

> > > Anyone have suggestions about how best to word things to do the

> > > inquiry? sometimes I have stressfull thoughts/situations that i

> > want

> > > to inquire on but i'm not sure how to frame them to best

> facilitate

> > > the Work.

> > >

> > >

> > Heidi,

> >

> > That's a little vague and too general a request to my mind. When

> you

> > are writing out a worksheet don't be too concerned about how to

> frame

> > it. Just get down on paper what's troubling you. When it comes to

> > picking a thought/belief to investigate from what you've written

> out,

> > yes, there may be a way to start that is right and helpful for

you.

> > We all have to find our way with this, what suits the particular

> > mind/personality the best. And it's not complicated at all, just

a

> > little practice at what speaks to you the best.

> > For example recently you were doing inquiry on " I want a shift " .

> > Now I would inquire into " I should have a shift " - I just ease

> into

> > it better that way. If I inquire into " I want a shift " - is it

> true -

> > I might want to say , yes, of course I want a shift and that's

OK -

> I

> > could continue anyway to the next questions. It just seems easier

> and

> > softer on this conditioned mind to ask it " Is it true I should

have

> a

> > shift " ?

> > You might write out an example of something you want to inquire

> into

> > and throw it out here to the group and get ideas of ways to

> approach

> > it and then see what speaks to you.

> >

> > Love you, precious

> >

> > Margaret

[Guest guest]

As part of our communion with our fellow humans, we sometimes have a need

for an empathic connection to our life experience. I was wondering if you

have a person, who you trust, to whom you can pour out your pain? I find

that when I do that, it releases a lot of energy to then take action (the

work) to deal with whatever is causing me the pain.

steve

RE: more specific for inquiry

I'm in such pain. And, along with the pain I have the very real

understanding that no one else can make this better for me. I need to

go within myself. I feel wells of sadness and tears within me. I cry

easily and have my berating thoughts about that as well. More for the

Work!

In pain,

heidi

---I'm just a newbie to all this so this is the thoughts of the newly

intiated. has said that if you're feeling pain, you're in an

argument with reality. My sense is you're in " P " and " J's " business.

You're anticipating how they will feel about your decisions, and you're

feeling the unhappiness you are certain they will feel when you make

your desires known to them. But is that true? It could be...but can you

be sure? The things you expect them to feel, is a projection of what you

expect them to feel, which is created from the things you feel...but you

can't be really sure they're feeling too. You could be right...but you

could be wrong. You haven't given yourself a chance to explore that

question, test it...you've just stopped at the part where you feel pain.

Maybe the next thing you do will finally answer the question you've

already answered without really testing it...I mean...not all the way.

None of us know what will happen when you explain how you feel to " P "

and " J " until you do it. That can only happen when you let your feelings

be known...feelings which are your business. It could be you're

speculations turn out to be right, but then...they could be wrong too.

We don't know...not yet anyway.

---Others on the list may be able to help you with specifics of

fashioning an inquiry that will give you better insight into your

issues. I'm just a beginner. But I think the fundamentals ring true

here. Pain is an indicator that you are arguing with reality. When your

concerns get stuck in " other people's business " the answers now depend

on someone else. You end up waiting forever for someone to end your

pain. The point at where this issue begins and ends is with your

feelings, your emotional needs, the things driving you to make these

decisions. The idea I think, is to challenge the veracity of your

story...and if it can be successfully challenged and causes you pain,

what's keeping you from dropping it and finding out the truth for

yourself, or simply " loving what is " ? Maybe the truth is just as painful

as you imagine, but then...maybe it's not. We don't know...not yet

anyway. That question reall hasn't been answered yet.

[Guest guest]

RE: more specific for inquiry

I'm in such pain. And, along with the pain I have the very real

understanding that no one else can make this better for me. I need to

go within myself. I feel wells of sadness and tears within me. I cry

easily and have my berating thoughts about that as well. More for the

Work!

In pain,

heidi

---I'm just a newbie to all this so this is the thoughts of the newly

intiated. has said that if you're feeling pain, you're in an

argument with reality. My sense is you're in " P " and " J's " business.

You're anticipating how they will feel about your decisions, and you're

feeling the unhappiness you are certain they will feel when you make

your desires known to them. But is that true? It could be...but can you

be sure? The things you expect them to feel, is a projection of what you

expect them to feel, which is created from the things you feel...but you

can't be really sure they're feeling too. You could be right...but you

could be wrong. You haven't given yourself a chance to explore that

question, test it...you've just stopped at the part where you feel pain.

Maybe the next thing you do will finally answer the question you've

already answered without really testing it...I mean...not all the way.

None of us know what will happen when you explain how you feel to " P "

and " J " until you do it. That can only happen when you let your feelings

be known...feelings which are your business. It could be you're

speculations turn out to be right, but then...they could be wrong too.

We don't know...not yet anyway.

---Others on the list may be able to help you with specifics of

fashioning an inquiry that will give you better insight into your

issues. I'm just a beginner. But I think the fundamentals ring true

here. Pain is an indicator that you are arguing with reality. When your

concerns get stuck in " other people's business " the answers now depend

on someone else. You end up waiting forever for someone to end your

pain. The point at where this issue begins and ends is with your

feelings, your emotional needs, the things driving you to make these

decisions. The idea I think, is to challenge the veracity of your

story...and if it can be successfully challenged and causes you pain,

what's keeping you from dropping it and finding out the truth for

yourself, or simply " loving what is " ? Maybe the truth is just as painful

as you imagine, but then...maybe it's not. We don't know...not yet

anyway. That question reall hasn't been answered yet.