Re: Some improvement thanks to L-Tyrosine and L-Arginine

June 9, 2007

The L-Tyrosine and the L-Arginie are both Vitamin Shoppe brand. The

Ginseng and Ginkgo Giloba are from Nature's Bounty (both purchased at

CVS, I think). The Rhodiola Rosea is made by Nature's Plus. I found

it at a health food store. The Saw Palmetto is CVS Brand, and the

Zinc is Rite Aid brand. The Horny Goat Weed (with maca)is made by

Windmill Health Products. I got it at CVS.

> >

> > A few days ago, I started taking L-Tyrosine and L-Arginine (500

mg

> of L-

> > Tyrosine every other morning, 500 mg of L-Arginine every

morning.

> I've

> > since noticed a DEFINITE boost in my libido (which was hovering

> around

> > zero) and also in the quality of my erections. L-Tyrosine is a

> > chemical precursor to dopamine, so, in theory, taking L-Tyrosine

> boosts

> > your dopamine levels (or at least increases the amount of

dopamine

> > available). L-Arginine is a precursor to nitric oxide, and

nitric

> > oxide, in turn, has a role in the physiology of erections, among

> other

> > roles.

> >

> > Mike

> >

> > (Along with the L-Tyrosine and L-Arginine, I also take Saw

> Palmetto,

> > Ginkgo Biloba, and Zinc daily, and intermittently use Ginseng,

> Rhodiola

> > Rosea, and Horny Goat Weed).

> >

>

June 10, 2007

I think the tyrosine is helping with my overall drive and

libido...also with the emotional blunting I've been struggling with

(gotta love psych meds, no?). The arginine, I think, is helping more

directly in my loins, i.e. with my ability to get and maintain an

erection (I read on wikipedia, or somewhere, that arginine is

sometimes combined with yohimbe to treat ED). As far as one helping

more than the other, it's hard to say, since I started them both at

the same time....something's certainly working, that's for sure,

though...

> > >

> > > A few days ago, I started taking L-Tyrosine and L-Arginine (500

mg

> > of L-

> > > Tyrosine every other morning, 500 mg of L-Arginine every

morning.

> > I've

> > > since noticed a DEFINITE boost in my libido (which was hovering

> > around

> > > zero) and also in the quality of my erections. L-Tyrosine is a

> > > chemical precursor to dopamine, so, in theory, taking L-

Tyrosine

> > boosts

> > > your dopamine levels (or at least increases the amount of

dopamine

> > > available). L-Arginine is a precursor to nitric oxide, and

nitric

> > > oxide, in turn, has a role in the physiology of erections,

among

> > other

> > > roles.

> > >

> > > Mike

> > >

> > > (Along with the L-Tyrosine and L-Arginine, I also take Saw

> > Palmetto,

> > > Ginkgo Biloba, and Zinc daily, and intermittently use Ginseng,

> > Rhodiola

> > > Rosea, and Horny Goat Weed).

> > >

> >

>

June 10, 2007

I'll answer my own question. 3 hours after taking this combo I began

to feel some labido returning. On a scale from 1 to 100 where 1 is

no labido whatsoever and 100 is pre-SSRI normal levels, I was at a 1

before the LT and LA combo and I'm at a 20 after. Does anyone know

how much of this stuff you can take per day? I also wonder how long

this effect will last. I honestly feel like shoving a handful of

these pills in my mouth considering this seems to be the only thing

that has really worked...and I've only taken one 500mg pill of each.

Does this mean the dopamine levels in my brain are really destroyed

since I'm responding to this? Has anyone taken this combo before and

had it work successfully each day? I wonder if our systems will grow

resistant to these amino acids?

> > > > >

> > > > > A few days ago, I started taking L-Tyrosine and L-Arginine

> (500

> > mg

> > > > of L-

> > > > > Tyrosine every other morning, 500 mg of L-Arginine every

> > morning.

> > > > I've

> > > > > since noticed a DEFINITE boost in my libido (which was

> hovering

> > > > around

> > > > > zero) and also in the quality of my erections. L-Tyrosine

is

> a

> > > > > chemical precursor to dopamine, so, in theory, taking L-

> > Tyrosine

> > > > boosts

> > > > > your dopamine levels (or at least increases the amount of

> > dopamine

> > > > > available). L-Arginine is a precursor to nitric oxide, and

> > nitric

> > > > > oxide, in turn, has a role in the physiology of erections,

> > among

> > > > other

> > > > > roles.

> > > > >

> > > > > Mike

> > > > >

> > > > > (Along with the L-Tyrosine and L-Arginine, I also take Saw

> > > > Palmetto,

> > > > > Ginkgo Biloba, and Zinc daily, and intermittently use

> Ginseng,

> > > > Rhodiola

> > > > > Rosea, and Horny Goat Weed).

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

June 10, 2007

I tried maca/gingko and felt an improvement in mood a little, but nothing for libido. Is maca suppose to work right away? Im looking for improvement in erections and didn't really notice any

It might be better to lower your expectations than to hope for a miracle because if you

hope for a miracle and don't get it, you will be cery dissapointed and that has an effect on

ones body. However if you lower your expectations and then get some benifit you will be

more grateful. Just a suggestion though. I know how bad we all want to get better and

how bad we all want some kind of a miracle.

> > > > >

> > > > > A few days ago, I started taking L-Tyrosine and L-Arginine

> (500

> > mg

> > > > of L-

> > > > > Tyrosine every other morning, 500 mg of L-Arginine every

> > morning.

> > > > I've

> > > > > since noticed a DEFINITE boost in my libido (which was

> hovering

> > > > around

> > > > > zero) and also in the quality of my erections. L-Tyrosine is

> a

> > > > > chemical precursor to dopamine, so, in theory, taking L-

> > Tyrosine

> > > > boosts

> > > > > your dopamine levels (or at least increases the amount of

> > dopamine

> > > > > available). L-Arginine is a precursor to nitric oxide, and

> > nitric

> > > > > oxide, in turn, has a role in the physiology of erections,

> > among

> > > > other

> > > > > roles.

> > > > >

> > > > > Mike

> > > > >

> > > > > (Along with the L-Tyrosine and L-Arginine, I also take Saw

> > > > Palmetto,

> > > > > Ginkgo Biloba, and Zinc daily, and intermittently use

> Ginseng,

> > > > Rhodiola

> > > > > Rosea, and Horny Goat Weed).

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

August 22, 2007

ginko biloba has done absolutely nothing.

I think a lot of people here experience a placebo effect the first few

days, and are quick to share their success stories.

Next time, wait a month and see if whatever your are testing it still

working.

August 22, 2007

The 'placebo effect theory' is a bunch of nonsense, as far as I'm

concerned. Not to sound mean or callous or anything. Some supps seem

to work for a minute, then the effects inexplicably fade (fade by some

PHYSIO-logical mechanism, that is, not by a PSYCHO-logical one, as in

the 'placebo theory'). Others supplements seem to work on a more

consisent basis. It seems to really just depend on the individual, the

symptoms, and the supplements that work FOR the individual and the

individual's symptoms, which probably varies a bit from person to

person, although I'm guessing that some supplements are helpful ACROSS

the population (meaning they work for everyone to some degree...like

protein shakes or fish oil or Vitamin E or Vitamin C or Zinc or the B-

vitamins, and so on). I suppose I agree (to an extent, at least) that

some...restraint might initially be needed when sharing positive

experiences with supplements...but really, what's wrong with suggesting

something that you think could help somebody? So you spend a few

dollars on a lead that doesn't work for you. What's a few dollars if

it ends up helping? As far as I'm personally concerned, the only way

to get out of this mess is through trial and error, trial and error,

and more trial and error, AND by exchanging ideas, successes, and

failures as a community of people sharing the same thing.

>

> ginko biloba has done absolutely nothing.

>

> I think a lot of people here experience a placebo effect the first

few

> days, and are quick to share their success stories.

>

> Next time, wait a month and see if whatever your are testing it still

> working.

>

August 22, 2007

One more thing: some of these supplements you need to use CONTINUOUSLY

over a LONG period of time before results start popping up. For

example, I was reading about Vitamin E in the treatment of peripheral

neuropathy earlier today, and only after SIX months of CONTINUOUS use

did people start to experience symptom relief.

>

> ginko biloba has done absolutely nothing.

>

> I think a lot of people here experience a placebo effect the first

few

> days, and are quick to share their success stories.

>

> Next time, wait a month and see if whatever your are testing it still

> working.

>

August 22, 2007

I agree. The few supplements I've tried, I would notice a positive effect for the first 2-3 days, and then nothing. I know it wasn't placebo or anything, when I first tried l-tyrosine, it felt nearly like how I would feel when I took adderall. But these effects would fade.. same with other supplements.